Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 17:27:29 -0500 Subject: Scripture Memorization From: Stephen Simpson Greetings, I have been trying to put together some information on the topic of 'the things which keep us from actually memorizing scripture'. Most people I have talked to about scripture memorization have agreed that it is an interesting, profitable and important thing to do. But most people do not actually do much of it when you get right down to it. I myself have a releativly poor track record. Consistency is very difficult for some reason. Here are some questions to consider: 1) What keeps/distracts you from meeting your scripture memory goals? 2) How have you overcome? 3) Why do people in general resist developing the habit of memorizing? 4) How can we overcome objections and encourage others to memorize? Stephen Simpson =============================================================================== Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 6:27 PM Subject: Re: Scripture Memorization From: "Edwards" 1. Memorization involves a great deal of time. The unaltered truth is, it is boring to continue repeating the same words over and over, but that is what must be done in order to accomplish our goal. Also, there is little or no recognition for a job well done. It is hard work. 2. I haven't overcome - It is a continuous struggle to do what is right just because it is right! 3. Let's relate this to being in school. Most of us found memorization and study difficult. However, there were natural built in incentives. If we didn't learn certain things, we were considered "dumb" and put down by classmates. We faced the prospect of bad grades, in turn bringing the disapproval of teachers and parents, and usually some kind of disciplinary measures. As adults, we still have the problem of memorization being unpleasant, but we have no outward incentive to keep at it, and usually no encouragement from those around us unless we happen to be in some type of classroom situation. 4. By doing just what we are doing with this Bible Memory List. I am a part of the James Memory Group. I started a little late, and I have not kept up, but the encouraging notes from Lorry, the discussions, and the reminders to keep at it, are just what I need to get me going again. I know I am way behind, but that isn't what really matters. Progress is what I am aiming for, and I can say that I know more scripture now than I did when I started, so I consider that to be progress, even if it is coming slowly Linda. ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Simpson To: Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 6:27 PM Subject: Scripture Memorization > Greetings, > > I have been trying to put together some information on the topic of 'the > things which keep us from actually memorizing scripture'. Most people I > have talked to about scripture memorization have agreed that it is an > interesting, profitable and important thing to do. But most people do > not actually do much of it when you get right down to it. I myself have > a releativly poor track record. Consistency is very difficult for some > reason. > > Here are some questions to consider: > > 1) What keeps/distracts you from meeting your scripture memory goals? > 2) How have you overcome? > 3) Why do people in general resist developing the habit of memorizing? > 4) How can we overcome objections and encourage others to memorize? > > Stephen Simpson > > > > > =============================================================================== Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 6:27 PM Subject: Re: Scripture Memorization From: "Valeria Nunn" Thanks for the email. I have just gotten back to memorizing (I too have a hard time keeping consistent). I decided to make it one of my weekly goals with my accountability partner. I have memorized Ephesians 1:3-8 in the last three weeks. It has been hard to retain, but I am realizing more and more that until a passage really means something to you personally, it is harder to just memorize verses for the sake of memorizing. Thanks for the questions to ponder. I hope I can stay on track this time. I use a tickler file to keep my verses organized for review. Val Nunn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Simpson" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 6:27 PM Subject: Scripture Memorization > Greetings, > > I have been trying to put together some information on the topic of 'the > things which keep us from actually memorizing scripture'. Most people I > have talked to about scripture memorization have agreed that it is an > interesting, profitable and important thing to do. But most people do > not actually do much of it when you get right down to it. I myself have > a releativly poor track record. Consistency is very difficult for some > reason. > > Here are some questions to consider: > > 1) What keeps/distracts you from meeting your scripture memory goals? > 2) How have you overcome? > 3) Why do people in general resist developing the habit of memorizing? > 4) How can we overcome objections and encourage others to memorize? > > Stephen Simpson > > > > > =============================================================================== Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 23:51:03 -0500 Subject: Re: Scripture Memorization From: Drake Mariani In support of the truth you speak of Stephen, I did a Poll for 3 weeks at www.memlok.com about a year ago. People answered the question, how many verses can you say with reference, 1-10, 11-20, 21-50, 51+ 75% of those choosing to reply said less than 10. About 1000 answered. This was from people looking for memory help. 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But most people do >not actually do much of it when you get right down to it. I myself have >a releativly poor track record. Consistency is very difficult for some >reason. > >Here are some questions to consider: > >1) What keeps/distracts you from meeting your scripture memory goals? >2) How have you overcome? >3) Why do people in general resist developing the habit of memorizing? >4) How can we overcome objections and encourage others to memorize? > >Stephen Simpson =============================================================================== Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 16:15:51 -0500 Subject: Hard choices/making time/"sacrificing" good for better From: "Roger E. Doriot" >may have to choose to make a daily permanent time for this and sacrifice >other noble tasks to give way... Very good point! Especially today, we have to make very hard choices with our time. Some time for memorization and review IS one of the higher priorities. We just have to make that choice to take some time. How much time is the only question that needs consideration. :) Roger in Irian Jaya http://www.jesus-connect.net/world/jesus/Doriot (PS to Isobel: Your return address when you sent the above did not work, for some reason.) =============================================================================== Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 16:16:05 -0500 Subject: Re: Scripture Memorization From: "James Kephart" In answer to Edwards at: redwardsccsinc.com You wrote: "Memorization involves a great deal of time." and, "it is boring." It does seem time consuming if you try to give it premium time. I give memorization my "wasted time." For instance, when waiting at the car wash, I walk down the street memorizing. During the few minutes between laying down in bed and going to sleep, I memorize. Standing in line for this or that, I memorize. I have been blessed so much by my memorization that I am no longer bored. Here is a thought..... I believe that if you memorize scripture God will use that scripture. He will use it to comfort you or to bless and comfort some one else. For instance I learned all the scripture about not worrying and casting you burdens on him etc.(Write me if you need the verses) God has already used it to comfort me, and some friends. I don't think God wastes any knowledge we learn. He will use it. If I study the Psalms, He will use it. If I study Revelation He will use it. His word does not go out void. James L. Kephart =============================================================================== Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 16:16:06 -0500 Subject: Re: Scripture Memorization From: "James Kephart" Drake Mariani writes regarding people being able to say memory verses that "75% of those choosing to reply said less than 10. About 1000 answered." I find this so true even in the churches. I go about encouraging churches to teach their members to memorize. You would be surprized, perhaps, to know, that many Christians can't recite the Lord's Prayer of the Twenty Third Psalm. Even the Sunday School teachers many times haven't memorized key scriptures. I think it is necessary for us as christians to memorize scripture so we can be good teachers ourselves. If we encourage others to memorize scripture, they will be good teachers too. It is not wasted time because God always uses his word when we know it. James L. Kephart =============================================================================== Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 2:16 PM Subject: RE: Scripture Memorization From: "Rebecca Steadman" I would like the "Do not worry" scripture references, please. I also memorize just before going to bed. Then I turn out the light and try to recite back until I fall asleep. Many times, though, I find myself stumped and must turn the light back on and check the scripture again. That's usually enough to help me remember the troubling spot. Just have two more paragraphs before completing James. It also helps to review in the morning after having memorized at night. Has anyone found a memorization program for the Palm Pilot that you know of? Rebecca -----Original Message----- From: James Kephart [mailto:jkephartbak.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 2:16 PM To: biblememmemoryverses.org Subject: Re: Scripture Memorization In answer to Edwards at: redwardsccsinc.com You wrote: "Memorization involves a great deal of time." and, "it is boring." It does seem time consuming if you try to give it premium time. I give memorization my "wasted time." For instance, when waiting at the car wash, I walk down the street memorizing. During the few minutes between laying down in bed and going to sleep, I memorize. Standing in line for this or that, I memorize. I have been blessed so much by my memorization that I am no longer bored. Here is a thought..... I believe that if you memorize scripture God will use that scripture. He will use it to comfort you or to bless and comfort some one else. For instance I learned all the scripture about not worrying and casting you burdens on him etc.(Write me if you need the verses) God has already used it to comfort me, and some friends. I don't think God wastes any knowledge we learn. He will use it. If I study the Psalms, He will use it. If I study Revelation He will use it. His word does not go out void. James L. Kephart =============================================================================== Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 23:47:11 -0500 Subject: New Yahoo Scripture Memorization club From: Hola everyone! I've started a new club on Yahoo for scripture memorization. I know there are two or three others, but when I looked at them it looked like there hadn't been any activity for a while on them. I would like it to be a place where we can be accountable to one another on our memorization activities, and also support each other in prayer and fellowship. If you're interested, the address is: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/biblememorization Mamie ------------------------------------- For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor rulers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord. ---Romans 8:38-39 =============================================================================== Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 23:47:13 -0500 Subject: Re: Scripture Memorization From: Your reply really encouraged me!! I have experineced exactly what you're saying... [Here is a thought..... I believe that if you memorize scripture God will use that scripture. He will use it to comfort you or to bless and comfort some one else. For instance I learned all the scripture about not worrying and casting you burdens on him etc.(Write me if you need the verses) God has already used it to comfort me, and some friends. I don't think God wastes any knowledge we learn. He will use it. If I study the Psalms, He will use it. If I study Revelation He will use it. His word does not go out void. James L. Kephart] When I memorize a scripture God uses it to teach me & bless me!! The mind of man plans his way, but the LORD directs his steps. Proverbs 16:9>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My prayer is that God would teach me to love even the unlovely,to forgive those who despitefully use me, & be a testimony to those who need to know Jesus,and know God as a loving Father. I & ask for forgivness for any wrong thing I've done or said in the past as I also forgive. In Christ, Dee =============================================================================== Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 23:47:14 -0500 Subject: Help Memorizing From: QUOTE: >"I have been trying to put together some information on the topic of 'the > things which keep us from actually memorizing scripture'. Most people I > have talked to about scripture memorization have agreed that it is an > interesting, profitable and important thing to do. But most people do > not actually do much of it when you get right down to it. I myself have > a releativly poor track record. Consistency is very difficult for some > reason. > Here are some questions to consider: > > 1) What keeps/distracts you from meeting your scripture memory goals? > 2) How have you overcome? > 3) Why do people in general resist developing the habit of memorizing? > 4) How can we overcome objections and encourage others to memorize?> > > Stephen Simpson" > My name is Dee. I'm wondering if it would help to have someone to share on a daily, bi-weekly, or sparaticly the progress of memorization. If there's anyone out there interested in pairing up with me so we can check on each others progress & encourage each other on a more personal basis. Please contact me at Hmrdbnd2cs.com I am interested in memorizing scriptures on renewing the mind & related topics... (not set in cement). I have a list. Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy, for you are receiving the the goal of your faith, the salvation of your souls. I Peter 1:8,9 =============================================================================== Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 23:47:17 -0500 Subject: Re: Scripture Memorization From: "Mark Harris" Hi Stephen, > > 1) What keeps/distracts you from meeting your scripture memory goals? > What distracts me are the general day-to-day activities. > 2) How have you overcome? > I find I must consciously (willfully) make it a point to memorize and review Scripture on a consistent and systematic basis. This means I set goals on what I will memorize, then organize and plan it. Now I'm busy with a full-time job, family commitments (4 children and assistant Scout leader), as well as Sunday school teacher and other volunteer ministry work during the week. But I still find time to memorize Scripture, especially during "filler time" or what someone else has called "wasted time." I carry with me a set of 3x5 index cards where I have written out or computer printed specific Scripture passages. On the reverse side I have a key word and Scripture reference that will "trigger" my recall. At the bottom of the printed side I write down every day (month-day) I recall the Scripture reference. > 3) Why do people in general resist developing the habit of memorizing? > Its hard work with little perceived reward. Our American society is so dominated by media images and symbols that memorization is minimized to the extreme. Statistics show only 11-18% of Christians read the Bible on a daily basis. Far fewer Christians today - probably fewer than 5% - are interested in Scripture memory, and even fewer get around to actually doing it. I did some research into Scripture memorization in past Church history and found some amazing things. In the 1800s, a good portion of African-American preachers memorized large sections of Scripture from which they would preach to their mostly illiterate flocks. Zwingli, a famous reformer who also worked full-time as a pastor, acquired the newly-printed Greek New Testament and memorized all of Paul's epistles. People of the past were far more receptive to viewing Scripture memory as a very positive pursuit. > 4) How can we overcome objections and encourage others to memorize? > Perhaps first by showing people have successfully memorized in the past, especially ordinary people. Second, we can teach people how to focus longer than a 20-30 second span - the average length of a commercial. Along with that we can teach people to deliberately "turn off" from the media even for a brief period of time to focus on personal goals. Also, I would start simple and build up. Psalm 117 is only 2 verses, but it counts as "memorizing a Psalm." I would also encourage people to first get the "gist" of a verse or passage and not necessarily strive word-for-word. The understanding is more important, and the word-for-word will eventually come with continued practice.Personally I am convinced that everyone, even children, has the capacity for memorizing Scriptures. Mark Harris =============================================================================== Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 00:55:55 -0500 Subject: Input requested on new software! From: "Stephen Simpson" Greetings, I am now putting the finishing touches on a computer program to assist people to memorize scripture. In 1997 I put a DOS program on my web site and since then it has been downloaded about 12,000 times. However it is time to do an update to Windows. I have been working on the update now for 2 years. In short, it is a combination teaching/drilling tool. I figure that it will be first made available in the early summer. One of its features uses Microsoft's Agent Technology (text to speech) to read the verses to you. The idea is that it will read a phrase, leave a pause and read the phrase again leaving another pause. You repeat the verse during the pause. This dialog could be recorded on a tape and played back in the car. I find it effective. The program also has a series of drills / games which help you learn the verse and evaluate your progress. The evaluation helps the comptuer decide which verses most need review and which do not need review. Of course it also prints verse cards in a couple of sizes. The program has many other options, but I am only trying to give an overview to say that I am trying to create a software package that lives up to the name 'Scripture Memory System' I guess that the target age group is adults and young adults, but I am trying to make it usable by younger children as well. It is a teaching tool because it includes several tutorials on memorization, (how and why) as well as as many scripture memory tips as I could put together, etc. The program will be freeware. At this point I would like to make a general request of anyone who is interested. I have a few questions: 1) What features/games/functions would you like to see in a computer program, if you were to use it? 2) I am also looking for lists of verses which could be included in the help files of the program to help new memorizers get started. Contributions of any verse lists or groups of verses by topic would be of great help. Stephen Simpson biblemem list moderator ssimpsonistar.ca http://home.istar.ca/~ssimpson =============================================================================== Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 12:47 AM Subject: Re: New Yahoo Scripture Memorization club From: "Henry Digby" Mamie, One of the clubs you looked at is probably the one I started a year ago in May 2000. Perhaps you did not notice any activity because I think I have been the only one to be inputting to it. But go back and take a look at it. The only message posted is my scripture memorization log, which I have been faithful to keep up since the Lord told me a year ago that He desired that I should make a lifetime commitment to Scripture memorization. I thank God that, by His grace, I have been able to be faithful in this area where I never had been able to before. Depending on His strength and motivation, I intend to continue until the day I die or am rapture, and possibly even beyond that! The name of my club is: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/scripturememorization (I hope I followed proper Internet protocol in typing that). I have been hoping for a whole year now that someone with better ideas and creativity than I have would join a give some real input. I'll probably join yours, but I'm still going to keep mine as well. I use it as kind of a log of my assignments and achievements. I just finished Romans 7 and am starting on either Ephesians 1 or Colossians 1 (probably Ephesians 1) - they're both precious passages which I love. God bless you! Henry Digby ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 12:47 AM Subject: New Yahoo Scripture Memorization club > Hola everyone! > I've started a new club on Yahoo for scripture memorization. I know there > are > two or three others, but when I looked at them it looked like there hadn't > been any activity for a while on them. I would like it to be a place where > we > can be accountable to one another on our memorization activities, and also > support each other in prayer and fellowship. If you're interested, the > address is: > > http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/biblememorization > > Mamie > > ------------------------------------- > For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor rulers, > nor > things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor > anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of > God in Christ Jesus our Lord. ---Romans 8:38-39 > > > > =============================================================================== Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:15:55 -0500 Subject: Re: Scripture Memorization From: Dear Brother James, Please forward to me the scriptures you referred to ...not worrying and casting your burdens upon the Lord. Thank you and God bless you. Gaynelle Merriwether =============================================================================== Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:17:47 -0500 Subject: New Biblemem From: "william king beard" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. I teach GED class at a prison. There was an inmate named Matt in one = of my classes who memorized hundreds of verses and all of Romans. He = had accidentally run over someone while drunk and ended up in prison by the age of 20. He was = transferred to another institution. I don't know where he is now, but it really was quite amazing to sit down with the Bible open while Matt went on flawlessly quoting scriptures. Of course Matt had a lot of time for memorizing. But still he is something of an anomaly. All of us probably could make the time for memorizing scripture. I drive forty miles to = work and forty miles back each day. I could problably sneak a look at a = notecard without careening into the pastures and woods between home and = work in a remote place. I'm home alone this morning while my wife and = three children are visiting their grandfather. I could have been memorizing scripture instead of surfing the web. Recently I learned = a few verses from Mathew while walking three miles each day. I seem to = be able to learn more while walking. The adrenalin helps. And I feel = the double satisfaction of knowing that I'm exercising body, soul, and = spirit. How's that for a complete workout? I'd appreaciate your help. = =============================================================================== Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:01:59 -0500 Subject: Re: William King Beard's walking while working From: That is a neat idea, to memorize while you walk. I do it too, but not walking as you do. When I have to wait somewhere as for my car repair, I go out on the sidewalk and walk and memorize, and I keep my verses close so I can fill in empty spaces with memorization, such as waiting for a train etc. Jim Kephart =============================================================================== Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:02:15 -0500 Subject: John a new member of group From: "Terry & John Massie" My name is John and I am very excited about this group. I have a strong desire to bury God's word into my heart. How else would the Holy Spirit call God's Word to my remembrance? I am hoping to learn a productive and systematic approach to memorizing = as much of the Word as I can before my blessed Savior returns because He = has blessed me with the presence of mind so that I can learn His Word = and be effective as a witness for Him. As you know we will be = responsible for the stewardship of the gifts and blessings He has given = us. Praise Jesus and bless you all with His Peace. Please bless me with a speedy response so that I can get started as an = active participant in your group. =============================================================================== Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:02:33 -0500 Subject: Introducing Myself From: "biblet" My name is Todd Beach. I know that Stephen Simpson has brought up my name in past emails, so I won't give you the long introduction. I am married with 3 kids and live in Tuscaloosa, AL, USA. My wife and I homeschool our 2 oldest kids. We moved to the South from Pittsburgh, PA 3 years ago. I work as an engineer/software devloper for a manufacturing firm. I, like Stephen, have spent the last two years developing Bible memorization software in my spare time. It is called Bible Memory 2000. If you want a description, go to: http://home.istar.ca/~ssimpson/smlinks.htm#Software The full version of the software allows you to look up and search Bible passages from the NIV, KJV and ASV. When you play the Bible memorization games, your progress is monitored by a Report Card feature. Here is the interesting part - you can upload your Report Card information to the web. The advantage is two-fold: 1. You can compete against others in your country, state or province. 2. You can choose email accountability partners who will receive an email link to a web page where your accountability information is displayed. I have read some of the prior list messages and a common theme is that Bible memorization is sometimes boring. Perhaps my software can help spice up your memorization process. The software is not an end-all-be-all cure for Bible memorization. I advocate a plan of scripture reading, meditation and memorization. Todd Beach Tuscaloosa, AL, USA =============================================================================== Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:02:39 -0500 Subject: Re: Scripture Memorization From: "James Kephart" Dear Steve, You asked us some questions on April 3. Sorry I am so slow, but I will give you my input. By the way, this memorization club is great and I appreciate you running it. In fact I appreciate the hard work you do in this area. Your work is right on, and I refer everyone to your site. For what it is worth, here is my input, rambling and there is more I could say, but use what you can. Blessings! James L. Kephart > 1) What keeps/distracts you from meeting your scripture memory goals? Being busy all the time is what keeps me from my goals. I have been a scripture memorizer since 1952, however and I have learned to keep my memorization work with me, so that I can do the work in the car, and at times when I have to wait. I did all of Navigators stuff at the start. I believe that we will be stronger and resist sin if we put scripture in our hearts, so I have a good motive to keep memorizing. After all, Jesus used scripture when tempted and Psa 119 says "Thy word have I hid in my heart that I might not sin against thee. > 2) How have you overcome? I overcome by keeping my work with me. I overcome by taking a partner and spending only 30 min to an hr a week with them memorizing. That is enough to keep us both on target. I overcome by going over my memory work as I go to sleep. This puts me to be with God's word in my heart. Really blesses me. > 3) Why do people in general resist developing the habit of memorizing? People are lazy. Me included. We don't want to put out effort. We want life to be easy. Some people talk themselves into thinking that they can't do it. If I get 30 min with them, I can show them how. Right now I have a group of senior citizens who are loving to memorize. They thought they couldn't do it, but they can and they have joy. I like to teach people to memorize by topic. Our Three Thirty Club is topical. For instance when they learn our 11th Meditation they have learned about what the Bible says about worry and have the verses all together. The First Meditation covers the Creation and the Fall of Man. In college we memorized chapters of the Bible. My O.T. professor required it. That isn't bad, but I like topical better and I think it keeps peoples interest better. > 4) How can we overcome objections and encourage others to memorize? It is really difficult if you are a pastor to get people to memorize. Many just refuse. But when I am teaching Sunday School or Bible Study, I require it. We take 10 minutes at the beginning and learn a verse. I do it by having them read it aloud five times, then I ask who would like to be the first to repeat it. When they do it perfect we clap and marvel at our good memorys that God gave us. Give me 10 minutes and a class of 10 people, and all will say the verse in that length of time. I also preach a lot about scripture memorization. I explain that the biggest problem we Christians have is falling into sin, the snares of the Devil. I explain that scripture in our hearts will keep us from falling. I stress the blessings of having God's word in our hearts. Blessings such as peace of mind etc. I also stress that God's word does not go out void, and that if we learn it, God is going to use it to help or bless someone else. I am a better preacher because I can quote a lot of scripture. You will be a better witness if you can quote scripture. The cults prey upon people who don't know God's word. Just like Satan will prey on us if we don't know it. I stress how marvelous the human mind is. It never runs out of memory like our computors. But in our fast food society, filled with fast food churches and fast food christians, their first reaction is "I don't like to memorize." It takes a selling job most of the time. But Christians should be experts on the scripture. We can't be experts on everything, but we can be experts on the scripture. Scripture has power to change lives. It is sharper than a two edged sword. We must do all we can to make our people experts. Jim =============================================================================== Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:02 AM Subject: a new member of group From: "KymeeCan" I am new, but have been on the mailing list for a week or two. I have been encouraged by all the suggestions and encouraging words. I have a true desire to memorize scriptures and have struggled with my busy life to manage it. This has renewed my resolve and I am once again attempting to hides God's precious word in my heart that I might not sin against Him... My name is Kimberly. I am married to a wonderful Godly man. We have six beautiful children, three boys and three girls. We currently home school the three older children. I live in Oklahoma, USA. God bless each of you! Kimberly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry & John Massie" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:02 AM Subject: John a new member of group > My name is John and I am very excited about this group. > I have a strong desire to bury God's word into my heart. > How else would the Holy Spirit call God's Word to my remembrance? > I am hoping to learn a productive and systematic approach to memorizing = > as much of the Word as I can before my blessed Savior returns because He = > has blessed me with the presence of mind so that I can learn His Word = > and be effective as a witness for Him. As you know we will be = > responsible for the stewardship of the gifts and blessings He has given = > us. > Praise Jesus and bless you all with His Peace. > Please bless me with a speedy response so that I can get started as an = > active participant in your group. > > > > > > > =============================================================================== Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:02 PM Subject: Re: Scripture Memorization From: "Sandy G. Hipona" Dear Jim, I came across this memorization site a few months ago and I am very interested. But since then the only thing that I have done is to read this exchange of messages. When I read your letter I was encouraged by what you shared. Thank you for your insights and encouragement. In Christ Sandy H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Kephart" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:02 PM Subject: Re: Scripture Memorization > Dear Steve, > You asked us some questions on April 3. Sorry I am so slow, but I > will give you my input. By the way, this memorization club is great and I > appreciate you running it. In fact I appreciate the hard work you do in > this > area. Your work is right on, and I refer everyone to your site. For what > it is worth, here is my input, rambling and there is more I could say, but > use what you can. > Blessings! > James L. Kephart > > > > 1) What keeps/distracts you from meeting your scripture memory goals? > Being busy all the time is what keeps me from my goals. I have > been a scripture memorizer since 1952, however and I have learned to keep > my > memorization work with me, so that I can do the work in the car, and at > times when I have to wait. I did all of Navigators stuff at the start. I > believe that we will be stronger and resist sin if we put scripture in our > hearts, so I have a good motive to keep memorizing. After all, Jesus used > scripture when tempted and Psa 119 says "Thy word have I hid in my heart > that I might not sin against thee. > > > 2) How have you overcome? > I overcome by keeping my work with me. I overcome by taking a > partner and spending only 30 min to an hr a week with them memorizing. > That > is enough to keep us both on target. I overcome by going over my memory > work as I go to sleep. This puts me to be with God's word in my heart. > Really blesses me. > > > 3) Why do people in general resist developing the habit of memorizing? > People are lazy. Me included. We don't want to put out effort. We > want life to be easy. Some people talk themselves into thinking that they > can't do it. If I get 30 min with them, I can show them how. Right now I > have a group of senior citizens who are loving to memorize. They thought > they couldn't do it, but they can and they have joy. I like to teach > people > to memorize by topic. Our Three Thirty Club is topical. For instance when > they learn our 11th Meditation they have learned about what the Bible says > about worry and have the verses all together. The First Meditation covers > the Creation and the Fall of Man. In college we memorized chapters of the > Bible. My O.T. professor required it. That isn't bad, but I like topical > better and I think it keeps peoples interest better. > > > 4) How can we overcome objections and encourage others to memorize? > It is really difficult if you are a pastor to get people to > memorize. Many just refuse. But when I am teaching Sunday School or Bible > Study, I require it. We take 10 minutes at the beginning and learn a > verse. > I do it by having them read it aloud five times, then I ask who would like > to be the first to repeat it. When they do it perfect we clap and marvel > at > our good memorys that God gave us. Give me 10 minutes and a class of 10 > people, and all will say the verse in that length of time. I also preach a > lot about scripture memorization. I explain that the biggest problem we > Christians have is falling into sin, the snares of the Devil. I explain > that scripture in our hearts will keep us from falling. I stress the > blessings of having God's word in our hearts. Blessings such as peace of > mind etc. I also stress that God's word does not go out void, and that if > we learn it, God is going to use it to help or bless someone else. I am a > better preacher because I can quote a lot of scripture. You will be a > better witness if you can quote scripture. The cults prey upon people who > don't know God's word. Just like Satan will prey on us if we don't know > it. > I stress how marvelous the human mind is. It never runs out of memory like > our computors. But in our fast food society, filled with fast food > churches > and fast food christians, their first reaction is "I don't like to > memorize." It takes a selling job most of the time. But Christians > should > be experts on the scripture. We can't be experts on everything, but we can > be experts on the scripture. Scripture has power to change lives. It is > sharper than a two edged sword. We must do all we can to make our people > experts. > > Jim > > > > > > > > =============================================================================== Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:06:52 -0500 Subject: Re: John a new member of group From: "Roger E. Doriot" At 09:02 AM 4/18/01 -0500, you wrote: >My name is John and I am very excited about this group. ... Hi, John! I'm not running the group, but have been on this list a long time. Scripture memory has done so much for my life and ministry, and I've worked at encouraging others in this area for many years. And have been praying more might be done on the Internet. Well, it's obvious God has been answering that prayer! LOL We are missionaries in Irian Jaya, Indonesia. Pray for us, and the ministry to jungle tribes here as you are reminded of this area. (Or if you happen to be interested, we'll send you regular email news and prayer requests.) God bless! Yours in Christ, Roger Doriot in Irian Jaya Jungle tribal ministry, pictures, MORE! Three good quotes: 1) "All earthly delights are sweeter in expectation than in enjoyment; but all spiritual pleasures more in fruition than in expectation." Fenelon 2) "Man seems to be capable of great virtues but not of small virtues; capable of defying his torturer but not of keeping his temper." G.K. Chesterton 3) "All is not lost when anything turns out contrary to your plans. Therefore, do not allow your feeling of the moment to obscure your judgment, not yield to depression as though all hope of recovery were lost." Thomas à Kempis =============================================================================== Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 6:06 PM Subject: Re: John a new member of group From: "Terry & John Massie" Thank you in the name of Jesus. Yes I would love to hear of the wonderful work our Lord and Savior is doing through your obedient efforts. Do you have a good disciplined approach to scripture memorization? I am new to bible memorization and quite honestly I am having a hard time developing a productive start or should I say I don't know where to start. I love God's Word and am faithful to daily bible study. My heart's desire is to fill my mind and heart so full of His Word that I can be of great service to our coming King. I witness daily and want to be more effective in that witness. I believe the more of God's Word that we bury in our hearts the brighter the light of our witness. May the peace of Jesus live in your home and may his healing power be evidenced in your ministry. I will pray that many are saved through the blood He has applied to your ministry. Your brother in Christ Jesus Farwell for now John Massie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger E. Doriot" To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 6:06 PM Subject: Re: John a new member of group > At 09:02 AM 4/18/01 -0500, you wrote: > >My name is John and I am very excited about this group. ... > > Hi, John! I'm not running the group, but have been on this list a long > time. Scripture memory has done so much for my life and ministry, and I've > worked at encouraging others in this area for many years. And have been > praying more might be done on the Internet. Well, it's obvious God has been > answering that prayer! LOL > > We are missionaries in Irian Jaya, Indonesia. Pray for us, and the > ministry to jungle tribes here as you are reminded of this area. (Or if you > happen to be interested, we'll send you regular email news and prayer > requests.) > > God bless! > > Yours in Christ, > > > Roger Doriot in Irian Jaya > > Jungle tribal ministry, > pictures, MORE! > > Three good quotes: 1) "All earthly delights are sweeter in expectation than > in enjoyment; but all spiritual pleasures more in fruition than in > expectation." Fenelon > 2) "Man seems to be capable of great virtues but not of small virtues; > capable of defying his torturer but not of keeping his temper." G.K. > Chesterton > 3) "All is not lost when anything turns out contrary to your plans. > Therefore, do not allow your feeling of the moment to obscure your > judgment, not yield to depression as though all hope of recovery were > lost." Thomas à Kempis > > > > > > > > =============================================================================== Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 6:06 PM Subject: Re: a new member of group From: "Terry & John Massie" Greetings in the Name above all other names Jesus. He's alive and the tomb is still empty and my heart is full of His presence!!! I am new to bible memorization also. I am very excited because I can receive encouragement and motivation through God's children like you. His Spirit is so wonderful and works in so many ways. I believe I will start my memorization efforts with love. I am going to look up every verse in the New Testament that has the word love, make a list and get started. May God's peace and good health live abundantly in your life. Your brother in Christ. John Massie ----- Original Message ----- From: "KymeeCan" To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 6:06 PM Subject: a new member of group > I am new, but have been on the mailing list for a week or two. I have been > encouraged by all the suggestions and encouraging words. I have a true > desire to memorize scriptures and have struggled with my busy life to > manage > it. This has renewed my resolve and I am once again attempting to hides > God's precious word in my heart that I might not sin against Him... > > My name is Kimberly. I am married to a wonderful Godly man. We have six > beautiful children, three boys and three girls. We currently home school > the > three older children. I live in Oklahoma, USA. > > God bless each of you! > Kimberly > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terry & John Massie" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:02 AM > Subject: John a new member of group > > > > My name is John and I am very excited about this group. > > I have a strong desire to bury God's word into my heart. > > How else would the Holy Spirit call God's Word to my remembrance? > > I am hoping to learn a productive and systematic approach to memorizing = > > as much of the Word as I can before my blessed Savior returns because He > = > > has blessed me with the presence of mind so that I can learn His Word = > > and be effective as a witness for Him. As you know we will be = > > responsible for the stewardship of the gifts and blessings He has given = > > us. > > Praise Jesus and bless you all with His Peace. > > Please bless me with a speedy response so that I can get started as an = > > active participant in your group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =============================================================================== Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:06 PM Subject: Re: Scripture Memorization From: "James Kephart" Do one verse at a time. When you are learning chapters or large portions it is better to learn one verse at a time before you start stringing things together. Some people make the mistake of doing the first verse, then the second then stringing them together, then going on to the third etc. The trouble is that when they get to the end, they know the first few verses a lot better than the last. It is better to get them all one at a time first. In fact, do them one at a time about 3 times before you start stringing. I just finished the 11th Meditation on worry and anxiety from the Three Thirty Club http://www.threethirtyclub.com. It took me about 3 weeks in my spare time. But I have it word perfect. I use it after my prayer as I am going to sleep. Puts me to sleep in a very peaceful way. Jim Kephart ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy G. Hipona" To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:06 PM Subject: Re: Scripture Memorization > Dear Jim, > > I came across this memorization site a few months ago and I am very > interested. But since then the only thing that I have done is to read this > exchange of messages. When I read your letter I was encouraged by what you > shared. Thank you for your insights and encouragement. > > In Christ > Sandy H. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Kephart" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:02 PM > Subject: Re: Scripture Memorization > > > > Dear Steve, > > You asked us some questions on April 3. Sorry I am so slow, but I > > will give you my input. By the way, this memorization club is great and > I > > appreciate you running it. In fact I appreciate the hard work you do in > > this > > area. Your work is right on, and I refer everyone to your site. For > what > > it is worth, here is my input, rambling and there is more I could say, > but > > use what you can. > > Blessings! > > James L. Kephart > > > > > > > 1) What keeps/distracts you from meeting your scripture memory goals? > > Being busy all the time is what keeps me from my goals. I have > > been a scripture memorizer since 1952, however and I have learned to keep > > my > > memorization work with me, so that I can do the work in the car, and at > > times when I have to wait. I did all of Navigators stuff at the start. > I > > believe that we will be stronger and resist sin if we put scripture in > our > > hearts, so I have a good motive to keep memorizing. After all, Jesus > used > > scripture when tempted and Psa 119 says "Thy word have I hid in my heart > > that I might not sin against thee. > > > > > 2) How have you overcome? > > I overcome by keeping my work with me. I overcome by taking a > > partner and spending only 30 min to an hr a week with them memorizing. > > That > > is enough to keep us both on target. I overcome by going over my memory > > work as I go to sleep. This puts me to be with God's word in my heart. > > Really blesses me. > > > > > 3) Why do people in general resist developing the habit of memorizing? > > People are lazy. Me included. We don't want to put out effort. We > > want life to be easy. Some people talk themselves into thinking that > they > > can't do it. If I get 30 min with them, I can show them how. Right now > I > > have a group of senior citizens who are loving to memorize. They thought > > they couldn't do it, but they can and they have joy. I like to teach > > people > > to memorize by topic. Our Three Thirty Club is topical. For instance > when > > they learn our 11th Meditation they have learned about what the Bible > says > > about worry and have the verses all together. The First Meditation > covers > > the Creation and the Fall of Man. In college we memorized chapters of > the > > Bible. My O.T. professor required it. That isn't bad, but I like > topical > > better and I think it keeps peoples interest better. > > > > > 4) How can we overcome objections and encourage others to memorize? > > It is really difficult if you are a pastor to get people to > > memorize. Many just refuse. But when I am teaching Sunday School or > Bible > > Study, I require it. We take 10 minutes at the beginning and learn a > > verse. > > I do it by having them read it aloud five times, then I ask who would > like > > to be the first to repeat it. When they do it perfect we clap and marvel > > at > > our good memorys that God gave us. Give me 10 minutes and a class of 10 > > people, and all will say the verse in that length of time. I also preach > a > > lot about scripture memorization. I explain that the biggest problem we > > Christians have is falling into sin, the snares of the Devil. I explain > > that scripture in our hearts will keep us from falling. I stress the > > blessings of having God's word in our hearts. Blessings such as peace of > > mind etc. I also stress that God's word does not go out void, and that > if > > we learn it, God is going to use it to help or bless someone else. I am > a > > better preacher because I can quote a lot of scripture. You will be a > > better witness if you can quote scripture. The cults prey upon people > who > > don't know God's word. Just like Satan will prey on us if we don't know > > it. > > I stress how marvelous the human mind is. It never runs out of memory > like > > our computors. But in our fast food society, filled with fast food > > churches > > and fast food christians, their first reaction is "I don't like to > > memorize." It takes a selling job most of the time. But Christians > > should > > be experts on the scripture. We can't be experts on everything, but we > can > > be experts on the scripture. Scripture has power to change lives. It is > > sharper than a two edged sword. We must do all we can to make our people > > experts. > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =============================================================================== Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:06 PM Subject: Re: a new member of group From: "James Kephart" To Kimberly in Oklahoma.... If you memorize scripture you will be greatly blessed. You will need all of God's help you can get with your children. (I had five) God's word does not go out void. If you store it in your heart it will be there to use as needed. I also believe he will send people who need that word to you especially if you have it. Our time memorizing is not wasted. God will not put what we do on a shelf. Blessings! Jim Kephart ----- Original Message ----- From: "KymeeCan" To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:06 PM Subject: a new member of group > I am new, but have been on the mailing list for a week or two. I have been > encouraged by all the suggestions and encouraging words. I have a true > desire to memorize scriptures and have struggled with my busy life to > manage > it. This has renewed my resolve and I am once again attempting to hides > God's precious word in my heart that I might not sin against Him... > > My name is Kimberly. I am married to a wonderful Godly man. We have six > beautiful children, three boys and three girls. We currently home school > the > three older children. I live in Oklahoma, USA. > > God bless each of you! > Kimberly > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terry & John Massie" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:02 AM > Subject: John a new member of group > > > > My name is John and I am very excited about this group. > > I have a strong desire to bury God's word into my heart. > > How else would the Holy Spirit call God's Word to my remembrance? > > I am hoping to learn a productive and systematic approach to memorizing = > > as much of the Word as I can before my blessed Savior returns because He > = > > has blessed me with the presence of mind so that I can learn His Word = > > and be effective as a witness for Him. As you know we will be = > > responsible for the stewardship of the gifts and blessings He has given = > > us. > > Praise Jesus and bless you all with His Peace. > > Please bless me with a speedy response so that I can get started as an = > > active participant in your group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =============================================================================== Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:59:56 -0500 Subject: Re: John a new member of group From: "GLORIA MAHINYA" Hi Roger, I thank God that through this list I have come to know you and your ministry. Yo know it is not an easy task to make people know their true God and ministry. You know it is not an easy task to make people know their true God and change from their wicked ways. But we manage all things through Christ who strengthens us. You might be passing through very difficult situations, but I pray that you have a favour from God in your ministry. Father God, I know your are wonderfull and great. Through your word you made earth and heaven and all what is contained. You always hear what your people ask and give. Thanks because you are a giver. I pray that you help and give double anointing all those who are engaged in spreading your word. Protect them from all the dangers that might come across. Make them true light to the world. Bless them Lord and make them rejoice because their names are writen in the book of life. In the precious name of Jesus Christ I pray. Amen. Mrs Gloria Mahinya Bank of Tanzania Tel. 255 022 2110945 Fax: 255 022 2113325 Mobile: 0741 233939 Emails: gmmahinyahq.bot-tz.org mahinyaemail.com =============================================================================== Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:00:07 -0500 Subject: Re: a new member of group From: To: Kymee Can You hit the nail on the head when you said "This has renewed my resolve and I am once again attempting to hides God's precious word in my heart that I might not sin against Him..." That is why we must get the word in our young people as well. Sin hurts so many lives. We need to be prepared to withstand the fiery darts of the Devil. Always have your memorization on your person. You will find there are times in every day you can go over your work. Jim Kephart In a message dated 4/19/2001 2:10:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kymeecanhotmail.com writes: > (KymeeCan) > Reply-to: biblememmemoryverses.org > To: biblememmemoryverses.org > > > > > I am new, but have been on the mailing list for a week or two. I have been > encouraged by all the suggestions and encouraging words. I have a true > desire to memorize scriptures and have struggled with my busy life to > manage > it. This has renewed my resolve and I am once again attempting to hides > =============================================================================== Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:00:11 -0500 Subject: Memorization From: "mrs foote" Dear Stephen, I have just been reading all the dialogue between all the members of this site, thinking that I really battle to memorize anything. Then after reading your article on how to meditate on the Scriptuers and asking the Lord Jesus to help I recieved a desire to memorize Isaiah 53 then it came quite easily. I started off by visuallizing and drawing what I saw in each sentence. What a blessing because revelation about the strength of the arm of the Lord became established in my soul. So thankyou for what your are doing, and I can quote the first 4 verses and I am focused on the cross the power of God. I also carry a card with the verses on, around with me. May God give peace to you, my Christian brothers, and love, with faith from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. God's grace and blessing be upon all who love our Lord Jesus Christ. Love, Betty Foote. =============================================================================== Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 10:00 AM Subject: Re: Memorization From: "James Kephart" To Betty Foote..... Congratulations on your success in starting to memorize. One thing I can tell you, is don't get uptight about it. If you will relax, it will come. Just take a verse at a time, memorize it then move on to the next verse. Don't worry if a day later you don't seem to remember the first verse. Get all the chapter or section done one verse at a time before you start trying to string the verses together. Then start over, again one verse at a time. You will find that the second time around, the verses come much easier. By the third time around, you will know your individual verses good enough to start stringing them together. Many people make the mistake of doing one verse, then two, then stringing those two and then trying for three, stringing them. By the time they get to the end, they know the first three verses well and the rest not so good. This you don't want. You want to know all the passage. I hope this makes sense to you. I have personally coached many people, and this has been the best way for large passages. Also, if you can get someone to meet with you about 30 minutes a week to coach you, it is very beneficial. Blessings! Keep up the good work. God will use what memorize do to do great things because his word doesn't go out void. James L. Kephart http://threethirtyclub.com MrKephartaol.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "mrs foote" To: Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 10:00 AM Subject: Memorization > Dear Stephen, > I have just been reading all the dialogue between all the members of > this site, thinking that I really battle to memorize anything. > Then after reading your article on how to meditate on the Scriptuers and > asking the Lord Jesus to help I recieved a desire to memorize Isaiah 53 > then it came quite easily. I started off by visuallizing and drawing > what I saw in each sentence. What a blessing because revelation about > the strength of the arm of the Lord became established in my soul. So > thankyou for what your are doing, and I can quote the first 4 verses and > I am focused on the cross the power of God. I also carry a card with the > verses on, around with me. > > May God give peace to you, my Christian brothers, and love, with faith > from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. God's grace and blessing > be upon all who love our Lord Jesus Christ. > Love, Betty Foote. > > > > > > > > > =============================================================================== Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 1:00 PM Subject: Re: Scripture Memorization From: "Valeria Nunn" My name is Val, and I just read your comment on doing one verse at a time. I have been memorizing and teaching memorization for many years, but I usually do it topical, etc. I am trying to memorize Ephesians 1, and like you said, because I have strung them together, I know the first few verses a whole lot better than the last few. I couldn't figure out why I couldn't get these to come together. Now I know why. Thanks for the tip. I am a lot slower than I used to be, but I am still trying to stick to it. Thanks again. Val ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Kephart" To: Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 1:00 PM Subject: Re: Scripture Memorization > Do one verse at a time. When you are learning chapters or large portions > it > is better to learn one verse at a time before you start stringing things > together. Some people make the mistake of doing the first verse, then the > second then stringing them together, then going on to the third etc. The > trouble is that when they get to the end, they know the first few verses a > lot better than the last. It is better to get them all one at a time > first. > In fact, do them one at a time about 3 times before you start stringing. I > just finished the 11th Meditation on worry and anxiety from the Three > Thirty > Club http://www.threethirtyclub.com. It took me about 3 weeks in my spare > time. But I have it word perfect. I use it after my prayer as I am going > to sleep. Puts me to sleep in a very peaceful way. > Jim Kephart > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandy G. Hipona" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:06 PM > Subject: Re: Scripture Memorization > > > > Dear Jim, > > > > I came across this memorization site a few months ago and I am very > > interested. But since then the only thing that I have done is to read > this > > exchange of messages. When I read your letter I was encouraged by what > you > > shared. Thank you for your insights and encouragement. > > > > In Christ > > Sandy H. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "James Kephart" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:02 PM > > Subject: Re: Scripture Memorization > > > > > > > Dear Steve, > > > You asked us some questions on April 3. Sorry I am so slow, but I > > > will give you my input. By the way, this memorization club is great > and > > I > > > appreciate you running it. In fact I appreciate the hard work you do in > > > this > > > area. Your work is right on, and I refer everyone to your site. For > > what > > > it is worth, here is my input, rambling and there is more I could say, > > but > > > use what you can. > > > Blessings! > > > James L. Kephart > > > > > > > > > > 1) What keeps/distracts you from meeting your scripture memory goals? > > > Being busy all the time is what keeps me from my goals. I have > > > been a scripture memorizer since 1952, however and I have learned to > keep > > > my > > > memorization work with me, so that I can do the work in the car, and at > > > times when I have to wait. I did all of Navigators stuff at the start. > > I > > > believe that we will be stronger and resist sin if we put scripture in > > our > > > hearts, so I have a good motive to keep memorizing. After all, Jesus > > used > > > scripture when tempted and Psa 119 says "Thy word have I hid in my > heart > > > that I might not sin against thee. > > > > > > > 2) How have you overcome? > > > I overcome by keeping my work with me. I overcome by taking a > > > partner and spending only 30 min to an hr a week with them memorizing. > > > That > > > is enough to keep us both on target. I overcome by going over my > memory > > > work as I go to sleep. This puts me to be with God's word in my heart. > > > Really blesses me. > > > > > > > 3) Why do people in general resist developing the habit of > memorizing? > > > People are lazy. Me included. We don't want to put out effort. We > > > want life to be easy. Some people talk themselves into thinking that > > they > > > can't do it. If I get 30 min with them, I can show them how. Right > now > > I > > > have a group of senior citizens who are loving to memorize. They > thought > > > they couldn't do it, but they can and they have joy. I like to teach > > > people > > > to memorize by topic. Our Three Thirty Club is topical. For instance > > when > > > they learn our 11th Meditation they have learned about what the Bible > > says > > > about worry and have the verses all together. The First Meditation > > covers > > > the Creation and the Fall of Man. In college we memorized chapters of > > the > > > Bible. My O.T. professor required it. That isn't bad, but I like > > topical > > > better and I think it keeps peoples interest better. > > > > > > > 4) How can we overcome objections and encourage others to memorize? > > > It is really difficult if you are a pastor to get people to > > > memorize. Many just refuse. But when I am teaching Sunday School or > > Bible > > > Study, I require it. We take 10 minutes at the beginning and learn a > > > verse. > > > I do it by having them read it aloud five times, then I ask who would > > like > > > to be the first to repeat it. When they do it perfect we clap and > marvel > > > at > > > our good memorys that God gave us. Give me 10 minutes and a class of > 10 > > > people, and all will say the verse in that length of time. I also > preach > > a > > > lot about scripture memorization. I explain that the biggest problem > we > > > Christians have is falling into sin, the snares of the Devil. I > explain > > > that scripture in our hearts will keep us from falling. I stress the > > > blessings of having God's word in our hearts. Blessings such as peace > of > > > mind etc. I also stress that God's word does not go out void, and that > > if > > > we learn it, God is going to use it to help or bless someone else. I > am > > a > > > better preacher because I can quote a lot of scripture. You will be a > > > better witness if you can quote scripture. The cults prey upon people > > who > > > don't know God's word. Just like Satan will prey on us if we don't > know > > > it. > > > I stress how marvelous the human mind is. It never runs out of memory > > like > > > our computors. But in our fast food society, filled with fast food > > > churches > > > and fast food christians, their first reaction is "I don't like to > > > memorize." It takes a selling job most of the time. But Christians > > > should > > > be experts on the scripture. We can't be experts on everything, but we > > can > > > be experts on the scripture. Scripture has power to change lives. It > is > > > sharper than a two edged sword. We must do all we can to make our > people > > > experts. > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =============================================================================== Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:40:44 -0500 Subject: my way From: "P & J Aitchison" I found I needed Philippians 4 verse 7 and 8 a few months ago. It has = been so helpful to friends since as well. I can now bring it to memory = very easily and I did it this way. I read it several times. Then I wrote it out. I then looked at each word = and wrote down what I thought it meant, then I looked in the dictionary = to see what meaning the dictionary gave the word, and when I had done = all of that my recall of those two verses was embedded in my memory and = I have been able to help several folk with them. =============================================================================== Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:40:47 -0500 Subject: Re: a new member of group From: I believe first we need to know who we are In Christ so I look up everything on "in Him" "in Whom" "of Whom" etc. & make a list of the key words , for example: "In Him" I am; loved Jn. 3:16... Blessed Eph.1:3,10... wise 2Tim.1:7... Called 1Cor.1:2... Chosen Jn.15:16... Complete Col.2:10...Confident 1Jn.2:28 Phil.1:5 1Jn.5:14...Free Rom.8:2...Sanctified 1Cor.1:2...Anointed 2Cor.1:21 1Jn. 2:27... Triumphant 2Cor.2:14 Accepted Eph. 1:6 Forgiven Eph.1:7... & so on & so on. Then when I have memorized these key words I go back & memorize the whole scripture(s)n of that subject. Then we need to change our thought process, so I look up scriptures on the mind, thoughts, memory, words & so on! In Christ Dee =============================================================================== Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:40:54 -0500 Subject: Re: John a new member of group From: Dear John, I will pray for your service to God's people in the jungle. I welcome news about prayer request. May God continue to bless you and your family. Gaynelle =============================================================================== Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:40:57 -0500 Subject: angela maria From: Angela Maria Hello, my name is Angela, subscribe biblemem. I am a Christian who is interested in Scripture memory particularly since I am blind. I am 28 single,never been married and don't have a boyfriend. The reason I said that is it seems that's all I seem to find on the internet, people interested in dating and omusic that I'm not interested in. I like singers like twila paris, Sandi Patti, and Steve Green. I live in Toronto Ontario, Canada. Ok, thank you for taking the time to read this letter. Hope to hear from you. yours sincerely, Angela _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca =============================================================================== Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 6:40 PM Subject: Re: Memorization From: "Brian Janko" James: Your example makes sense, but could you spell it out a little more; say we have a Psalm that's five verses, or some example. I'm fairly good at memorizing, but I do tend to know the first parts of what I'm memorizing much better than the rest of it. Also, do you recommend peg words and link associations and such (say, for verse numbers)? Do you even recommend memorizing verse numbers for a whole chapter or something? (e.g., peg words like 1=tie; 2=Noah; 3=ma; 4=rye; etc...) Thanks, -- Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Kephart" To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 6:40 PM Subject: Re: Memorization > To Betty Foote..... > Congratulations on your success in starting to memorize. One thing I can > tell you, is don't get uptight about it. If you will relax, it will come. > Just take a verse at a time, memorize it then move on to the next verse. > Don't worry if a day later you don't seem to remember the first verse. Get > all the chapter or section done one verse at a time before you start trying > to string the verses together. Then start over, again one verse at a time. > You will find that the second time around, the verses come much easier. By > the third time around, you will know your individual verses good enough to > start stringing them together. Many people make the mistake of doing one > verse, then two, then stringing those two and then trying for three, > stringing them. By the time they get to the end, they know the first three > verses well and the rest not so good. This you don't want. You want to > know all the passage. I hope this makes sense to you. I have personally > coached many people, and this has been the best way for large passages. > Also, if you can get someone to meet with you about 30 minutes a week to > coach you, it is very beneficial. > Blessings! Keep up the good work. God will use what memorize do to do > great things because his word doesn't go out void. > James L. Kephart > > http://threethirtyclub.com > > MrKephartaol.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mrs foote" > To: > Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 10:00 AM > Subject: Memorization > > > > Dear Stephen, > > I have just been reading all the dialogue between all the members of > > this site, thinking that I really battle to memorize anything. > > Then after reading your article on how to meditate on the Scriptuers and > > asking the Lord Jesus to help I recieved a desire to memorize Isaiah 53 > > then it came quite easily. I started off by visuallizing and drawing > > what I saw in each sentence. What a blessing because revelation about > > the strength of the arm of the Lord became established in my soul. So > > thankyou for what your are doing, and I can quote the first 4 verses and > > I am focused on the cross the power of God. I also carry a card with the > > verses on, around with me. > > > > May God give peace to you, my Christian brothers, and love, with faith > > from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. God's grace and blessing > > be upon all who love our Lord Jesus Christ. > > Love, Betty Foote. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =============================================================================== Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:41 PM Subject: RE: angela maria From: "Uebel, Ron" Hi Angela Maria, My name is Ron and I like to record my voice speaking whole books of scripture on cassette and listen at any time. This really helps me tremendously to memorize big chunks of scripture. I am working on the book of Hebrews now and am up to chapter 6 verse 10 in memorization. I would encourage you as well to have someone record a book of the bible for you on cassette (In your preferred version of course). This way you can listen at any time and put it all to spiritual memory. Hope you continue to do well. Ron -----Original Message----- From: Angela Maria [mailto:candyhater1yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:41 PM To: biblememmemoryverses.org Subject: angela maria Hello, my name is Angela, subscribe biblemem. I am a Christian who is interested in Scripture memory particularly since I am blind. I am 28 single,never been married and don't have a boyfriend. The reason I said that is it seems that's all I seem to find on the internet, people interested in dating and omusic that I'm not interested in. I like singers like twila paris, Sandi Patti, and Steve Green. I live in Toronto Ontario, Canada. Ok, thank you for taking the time to read this letter. Hope to hear from you. yours sincerely, Angela _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca =============================================================================== Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:40 PM Subject: Re: angela maria From: "Melody Habeeb" Hi Angela! My name is Melody. I like Twila Paris too. A couple years ago, a friend and I drove to Ithaca, NY from northern NY to see her in concert. It was wonderful! I; NEVER thought I could memorize scripture (I'll be 55 this year) But the Lord showed me a specific one that will help me daily.. it's about fear and love.. I John 4:18-19. And I am slowly learning the phrases in it. I cannot imagine memorizing a whole chapter, or book!! (well, maybe a short psalm)Welcome to biblemem, You found the right crowd to encourage memorizing the Bible! -melody ----- Original Message ----- From: Angela Maria To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:40 PM Subject: angela maria > Hello, my name is Angela, > subscribe biblemem. I am a Christian > who is interested in Scripture > memory particularly since I am blind. > I am 28 single,never > been married and don't have a > boyfriend. The reason I said > that is it seems that's all I seem > to find on the internet, people interested in dating > and omusic that I'm not interested > in. I like singers like twila paris, > Sandi Patti, and Steve Green. > I live in Toronto Ontario, > Canada. > Ok, thank you for taking > the time to read this letter. > Hope to hear from you. > yours sincerely, > Angela > > _______________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca > > > =============================================================================== Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 00:37:36 -0500 Subject: Re: my way From: This is one our group is going to try thanks. My personal prayer is that God would teach me to be a hand extended, a servant, to love even the unlovely,to forgive those who despitefully use me, & be a testimony to those who need to know Jesus,and know God as a loving Father.............................................. A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle. =============================================================================== Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 00:37:37 -0500 Subject: Re: Memorization From: "Melody Habeeb" I must confess that with my memory (lack of) I only know John 3:16,and that because I had sung it. I wanted to learn some scriptures so i could have God's Word to help me- at work, or camping, or grocery store. The Lord gave me 2 verses that I really need on fear: I John 4:18-19 To my astonishment, since they mean so much to me, I have learned the first couple phrases of the first verse!! Believe it- this is God's work.. I don't even remember what years my sons were born!!(or my own phone number) The encouragement I get by reading these posts helps me a lot too. Thank you all. -Melody =============================================================================== Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 00:37:38 -0500 Subject: Re: angela maria From: May God Bless you richly. I pray that you become very successful in learning to memorize Gods word. My name is a Amanda and I' m 39 years old single parent of one daughter and a dopted mother of a 14 year old girl also. =============================================================================== Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 00:37:39 -0500 Subject: I'm new here From: Angela Maria Hello my name is Angela. I'm from Toronto, Ontario Canada. I'm a blind 28 year old Christian who loves the Bible. Since it is hard for me to read the whole bible I try to grab whatever scripture I hear and memorize it. I have a tape bible but don't know how to use it. It is the whole bible. I also have some books in vraille. Trust ne, it is not like a print bible. What I would give to read a Bible like that, all the books in one book. Thank you for having a group like this. Ok, I'll stop for now, bye. Angela _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca =============================================================================== Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 00:37:40 -0500 Subject: Re: my way From: You mentioned that you helped several friends with verses you memorized. That is a wonderful observation. I know that when I memorize verses, God is going to use them because His word does not go out void. I just finished doing the 11th meditation verses on not worrying http://www.threethirtyclub.com and God has used them already several times. God's word does not lay in waste. It is the living word. It convicts of sin and it helps us fight the Devil. James L. Kephart =============================================================================== Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 00:37:41 -0500 Subject: Memorization and Bible Study From: "Brian Janko" This seems like a great group. I'm new to this. I once memorized the entire Westminster Shorter Catechism. Can anyone suggest a good place to start in terms of memorization? Also, I was wondering: are there any groups like this relating to Bible Study, or Bible reading plans and similar things? -- Brian ===============================================================================