Dear Friends,

I'd like to start by saying that although I'm not religious, I'm currently
interested in memorizing scripts and texts of some other books, which is
why I joined this list.  I felt this group may have some good information
(which it does!) and also so I could share my findings with you.

Here are some interesting methods you may try:

Type or write your verses.  This is a simple method to start familiarity
with the words of the passage.  I think an EXCELLENT idea here is to type
then out and break them into AT MOST one sentance per line on the page.
Maybe even one PHRASE per line.  Why?  There's a very good reason.  In
order to memorize, you need to "chunk" the process into small, easily
accomplished processes.

Here's the ancient method - Simply read one sentance.  Then repeat it
without looking at it.  When you got that sentance, do the same thing with
the next sentance/phrase.  When you got that one, then put them together.
Keep doing this until you got them both together.  Then add another
sentance/phrase, etc.  You keep adding sentances, building upon what you got.

The problem I got with that method is that by the time you get half-way
through, you know the first few sentances very well, and the last ones
barely at all.  It can get kind of frustrating.  That's why I'm creating a
computer program to allow you to learn the whole thing at one time, without
the frustration of the above method.

One thing I've learned that's fun that you can do without a specialized
computer program is to chunk the script into phrases and then "letterize
them" so you end up with something like this:

otI'vLt'sF     One thing I've learned that's fun
tycdw~oaSCP    that you can do without a specialized computer program
itCtSi~tP      is to chunk the script into phrases
atLt           and then "letterize them"
syEuws~tlt     so you end up with something like this:

The left side is the first letter of each word.  Common words are lower
case.  I use 'v 's and 't for contraction of have, possesive, and not,
respectively.  I also use 's for "its".  I use tilde (~) for compound
words.  And I don't use any other punctuation in the letterizing.  We don't
really speak or think in punctuation - its just natural.  Its SURPRISINGLY
easy to learn a LONG passage just by the first letters.  And this is an
EVEN learning process - you don't have to learn the first part before going
onto the next phrase.  Then just have a page like this:

otI'vLt'sF tycdw~oaSCP itCtSi~tP atLt syEuws~tlt

I would probably do the letterization step first for the entire passage,
and then start working on memorizing it a sentance at a time, using the
letterization page with one line per sentance:

otI'vLt'sF tycdw~oaSCP itCtSi~tP
atLt syEuws~tlt

Here's another idea.  Create your own recordings.  If you have a
half-decent computer (pentium) and a sound card, then download a program
called COOL-EDIT.  Its a wave-form recording/manipulation program.  Record
the passage you want to memorize.  Then set up COOL-EDIT to loop the
passage over and over.  Hook up the output of your sound card into the
input of your cassette deck and play record it on both sides of the tape.
Now you have a tape that you can just listen to the selected passages over
and over.  Get a walkman to listen wherever you go!

If you have an auto-reverse tape deck, you can have some fun with
subliminal learning at night.  Set yourself up with some headphones or your
speaker system and listen all night long while you sleep!  I tried this
last night.  It makes for some VERY INTERESTING dreams when your dream
characters (and yourself) are talking and using the phrases of what's being
said!

I purchased a two-deck, looping casette player ($180), so it plays both
sides of tape A, then both sides of tape B, and then back to both sides of
tape A, etc.  Get one with DOLBY recording so when you make tapes you can
use DOLBY (reduces noise).

Also, to make this set-up work, I purchased some light-weight 1/8" jack
headphones from Radio Shack ($16) that have a super long chord and a volume
control on the chord about a foot down from the headset.   This works great
because you want to set the volume VERY low so you can just hear it, but so
you can get good rest as well.  I also needed a 20-foot audio extension
chord to get from the tape deck to my bedroom!  Radio Shack has any kind of
connector-converter you need in order to get your headset plugged properly
into your casette deck.  HOWEVER, NOTE that the headset is difficult to use
when sleeping/rolling over.  I'm going to investigate simply using two
ear-pieces, along with a separate volume control.  Make sure any
plug-converter you purchase is for stereo (dual sound) rather than mono.
Just tell your Radio Shack helper that everything must be stereo.

Finally, there is some consideration that the mind can process multiple
audio signals at the same time.  So you could have two separate tape
players going into a mixer, and having one channel sent to the left ear and
the other channel sent to the right ear.  I'll experiment with that as
well.  Actually, I'm going to mix some professional tapes with what I
record (my own voice) into COOL-EDIT, and listen to the mix while I sleep!

Another thing that is fun is simply reading the passages aloud while
listening to the tape.  This makes your mind work at multiple tasks.
Listening, anticipating, reading, and talking engages your mind fully on
the task.  Use the letterization page!

I think the ultimate would be to learn sign-language and add that into the
mix above.  Listening, reading, talking, and signing would be a whole-body
learning process!

I've also read, but have not experimented with, that Baroque (sp?) music,
at its 60 beats per minute, has been proven to increase learning ability.
So settle down with Baroque music first, and then do your studying.  Also,
early morning is the best time.  Pick up one of those books on
mega-learning or something.

How about Diet?  There are certain foods and suppliments that are good for
memory.  I would tell you what that poplular suppliment is.... BUT I FORGOT
ITS NAME!!!!  Oh wait... its Ginko Biloba or something like that.  Doesn't
that sound like a lizard-skin wallet??  No wait, that would be "Geko
Billfold!"

I bet having a partner that's also excited about memorizing would help you
keep going!

OK, that's all for now!

Later,

David

David,
    I would be curious to know if your all night tape method has helped
any.    I have a tape deck like that and could try it I suppose.  Anyway,
thanks for those suggestions.
    I don't believe that it's required for you to be religious to
participate in this group, after all, it was a religious crowd that put the
Lord Jesus on the cross.  I'm only picking on religion because one can be
very (zealously) religious and not have a clue of the love that overcomes
and overlooks a multitude of sins.
    Welcome to the group.  Look forward to hearing from you.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Stein [mailto:dsteinmediaone.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 8:46 PM
To: biblememoryMyList.net
Subject: Re: Bible Friends


Dear Friends,

I'd like to start by saying that although I'm not religious, I'm currently
interested in memorizing scripts and texts of some other books, which is
why I joined this list.  I felt this group may have some good information
(which it does!) and also so I could share my findings with you.

Here are some interesting methods you may try:

Type or write your verses.  This is a simple method to start familiarity
with the words of the passage.  I think an EXCELLENT idea here is to type
then out and break them into AT MOST one sentance per line on the page.
Maybe even one PHRASE per line.  Why?  There's a very good reason.  In
order to memorize, you need to "chunk" the process into small, easily
accomplished processes.

Here's the ancient method - Simply read one sentance.  Then repeat it
without looking at it.  When you got that sentance, do the same thing with
the next sentance/phrase.  When you got that one, then put them together.
Keep doing this until you got them both together.  Then add another
sentance/phrase, etc.  You keep adding sentances, building upon what you
got.

The problem I got with that method is that by the time you get half-way
through, you know the first few sentances very well, and the last ones
barely at all.  It can get kind of frustrating.  That's why I'm creating a
computer program to allow you to learn the whole thing at one time, without
the frustration of the above method.

One thing I've learned that's fun that you can do without a specialized
computer program is to chunk the script into phrases and then "letterize
them" so you end up with something like this:

otI'vLt'sF     One thing I've learned that's fun
tycdw~oaSCP    that you can do without a specialized computer program
itCtSi~tP      is to chunk the script into phrases
atLt           and then "letterize them"
syEuws~tlt     so you end up with something like this:

The left side is the first letter of each word.  Common words are lower
case.  I use 'v 's and 't for contraction of have, possesive, and not,
respectively.  I also use 's for "its".  I use tilde (~) for compound
words.  And I don't use any other punctuation in the letterizing.  We don't
really speak or think in punctuation - its just natural.  Its SURPRISINGLY
easy to learn a LONG passage just by the first letters.  And this is an
EVEN learning process - you don't have to learn the first part before going
onto the next phrase.  Then just have a page like this:

otI'vLt'sF tycdw~oaSCP itCtSi~tP atLt syEuws~tlt

I would probably do the letterization step first for the entire passage,
and then start working on memorizing it a sentance at a time, using the
letterization page with one line per sentance:

otI'vLt'sF tycdw~oaSCP itCtSi~tP
atLt syEuws~tlt

Here's another idea.  Create your own recordings.  If you have a
half-decent computer (pentium) and a sound card, then download a program
called COOL-EDIT.  Its a wave-form recording/manipulation program.  Record
the passage you want to memorize.  Then set up COOL-EDIT to loop the
passage over and over.  Hook up the output of your sound card into the
input of your cassette deck and play record it on both sides of the tape.
Now you have a tape that you can just listen to the selected passages over
and over.  Get a walkman to listen wherever you go!

If you have an auto-reverse tape deck, you can have some fun with
subliminal learning at night.  Set yourself up with some headphones or your
speaker system and listen all night long while you sleep!  I tried this
last night.  It makes for some VERY INTERESTING dreams when your dream
characters (and yourself) are talking and using the phrases of what's being
said!

I purchased a two-deck, looping casette player ($180), so it plays both
sides of tape A, then both sides of tape B, and then back to both sides of
tape A, etc.  Get one with DOLBY recording so when you make tapes you can
use DOLBY (reduces noise).

Also, to make this set-up work, I purchased some light-weight 1/8" jack
headphones from Radio Shack ($16) that have a super long chord and a volume
control on the chord about a foot down from the headset.   This works great
because you want to set the volume VERY low so you can just hear it, but so
you can get good rest as well.  I also needed a 20-foot audio extension
chord to get from the tape deck to my bedroom!  Radio Shack has any kind of
connector-converter you need in order to get your headset plugged properly
into your casette deck.  HOWEVER, NOTE that the headset is difficult to use
when sleeping/rolling over.  I'm going to investigate simply using two
ear-pieces, along with a separate volume control.  Make sure any
plug-converter you purchase is for stereo (dual sound) rather than mono.
Just tell your Radio Shack helper that everything must be stereo.

Finally, there is some consideration that the mind can process multiple
audio signals at the same time.  So you could have two separate tape
players going into a mixer, and having one channel sent to the left ear and
the other channel sent to the right ear.  I'll experiment with that as
well.  Actually, I'm going to mix some professional tapes with what I
record (my own voice) into COOL-EDIT, and listen to the mix while I sleep!

Another thing that is fun is simply reading the passages aloud while
listening to the tape.  This makes your mind work at multiple tasks.
Listening, anticipating, reading, and talking engages your mind fully on
the task.  Use the letterization page!

I think the ultimate would be to learn sign-language and add that into the
mix above.  Listening, reading, talking, and signing would be a whole-body
learning process!

I've also read, but have not experimented with, that Baroque (sp?) music,
at its 60 beats per minute, has been proven to increase learning ability.
So settle down with Baroque music first, and then do your studying.  Also,
early morning is the best time.  Pick up one of those books on
mega-learning or something.

How about Diet?  There are certain foods and suppliments that are good for
memory.  I would tell you what that poplular suppliment is.... BUT I FORGOT
ITS NAME!!!!  Oh wait... its Ginko Biloba or something like that.  Doesn't
that sound like a lizard-skin wallet??  No wait, that would be "Geko
Billfold!"

I bet having a partner that's also excited about memorizing would help you
keep going!

OK, that's all for now!

Later,

David

Hi everyone,

I don't know if the list has been inactive for a few days or if I'm just
not getting the messages.  ;-)

I've had some computer problems.   Could the person who sent me the way
to learn the new testament (with the 2 funny sentences) please write to
me and send me his old testament ways now.  If I remember right it had
something to do with two buildings or something.  Hope that makes sense.

Thanks,
Tamara

Dear Bible Friends,
I posted a different version of this message on the memorylist once before,
and the response was very interesting (see example below), so I'm providing
additional clarity and two fabulous research articles on memory techniques.
I have to send the text files seperately because of their size.

Also, new people have joined the list recently and have missed out on some
earlier discussions. These files are wonderfully descriptive of memory
techniques,
and will excite you and lead you into other potentially fruitful searchs
and endeavors concerning how to best utilize your intellect/memory. I'll be
sending
those files along sometime soon.

I would love to pull together a group of zealous and curious Christians
like all of
you, (Stephen and A.C. Smith, where are you?) to research and develop the
"perfect" way to memorize and really learn and apply God's Word (maybe it
already exists (or maybe there is no such thing)). I'm speculating that
through
these discussions with all of you, potentially we could put together a
substantial
and meaningful way to memorize God's Word. You have the need, I have the
need, everybody has the need for knowing, applying and teaching God's Word.
As mentioned in earlier emails, I started with the end in view as though I
had a difficult puzzle to solve. Having the end in view is a good, good way
to begin, don't you think? And working backwards from there reveals the
critical path. The idea is analogous to putting together a complex jigsaw
puzzle. Initially, I began this research adventure by asking myself the
who, what, when, where, how and why questions. And I ended up with some
answers which  resulted in my proposing a teaching curriculum to my pastors
Sunday, 3/15. The orienting factors were based on my church's direction,
and what the pastors and people are wanting to accomplish. So far, the
pastors have not asked for a meeting to discuss the curriculum, that is to
say, they may want to go with a different direction, or not at all.
Since no one has done it yet, I had to figure out an easy, fun way to
memorize all the books of the bible, that appeals to the largest group. It
took some time and effort, but I came up with some sentences using the
mnemonic  association plus a cartoon of the sentence. Admittedly, the
sentances are a little goofy. Eventually, this sentence plus cartoon method
enabled me to easily know all the bible book names in order, out of order
and
in reverse.
It's hard to imagine how delighted I was to have accomplished it. I never
did anything like that before. And now, knowing the bible book names seems
relatively easy and I want to move on to knowing my favorite bible book's
outlines. With outlines, more people will need to be involved and will need
to share their work. I can't do it all. I need help from other interested
people to construct the mnemonics and associative devices for each Bible
book. I think a good place to start would be with J. Vernon McGee's Bible
Book Outlines or his Briefing of the Bible.
You must realize that according to the memory/study experts it is important
to start your study by building a frame work consisting of  the biggest
concepts first and
drilling down progressively to the smallest, most intricate concepts last.
Thus, the book's names first, then the outlines, then chunks of favorite
chapters, then verses, then topics (because topics are disrelated).
Obviously, there is nothing inherently "wrong" with memorizing only the
verses. The point is, if a person wants to get the most out of what they
are doing with bible memory, they would be better off doing it by starting
with the big concepts and working progressively downward to the smallest,
most intricate concepts. This has the effect of locking everything together
very tightly, and providing the most memory hooks possible to interlock all
the
information tightly together.
"MoM LuGs ARCs at GE Power Company To Transmit from The Tower" describes
the first 17 New Testament book's names. I made a Lotus Freelance graphic
depicting this scene. This is a picture of a mom carrying lighting  through
a power station where electricity is being transmitted out to the power
lines.
"FILL A MAN with BREW and he plays GAMES in PJs BACKWARDS" describes the
last 10 book's names The picture here is of a man dressed in pajamas,
bending over backwards, playing the game Twister after having had "one to
many ". Philemon and Hebrews go wonderfully together this way, don't you
think?
Between these two sentences all the New Testament books are named in order.
Can you find them? And if (rather when) you get a firm impression of the
picture in your imagination which depicts the sentence, you will realise
that if you recollect any part of the picture you will remember all of it,
instantly. And you will be able to recite the book names in reverse,
forward or out of order if you wish. Having this ability will make you
smile REAL BIG and you will feel great inside.
I worked with the Old Testament book names in a similar way and developed
several sentences for handling those as well. Pictures are not available
for them yet. The sentance that describes the first 17 books of the Old
Testament is this; "Generations Expand while God Judges Ruth's Chronic
KinSman, ENE (mene mine moe which one will be next.)" It must be taught
that
"Chronic KinSman" is actually the reverse order of the way the books appear
in the bible, i.e. Samual, Kings, Chronicles is the natural order (the one,
to the few, to the many). "Is a germ a man? Easy Denial" i.e. Major
Prophets.
I'll have to provide the other mnemonic sentances some other time.
Using the following cartoon idea a person can also, easily know the numeric
sequence of any bible book. The picture is of all the bible books stacked
on top of each other from the 1st through the 66th. And that picture
resembles a 2 story building with 65 windows and a roof. The first story
has 5 rows of windows. The second story has 4 rows of windows. The first
row of 5 at the bottom is the Pentatuch. The next row is the 12 History
books. Next are the 5 Poetry books. Next are the 5 Major Prophets. Next are
the 12 Minor Prophets. On top of the first story are 4 Gospels, 1 Church
History, 13 Paul's Epistles, 8 Other Epistles and the roof, Revelation. If
I had a scanner I might be able to provide the supporting graphics.
I've been testing this method on small groups and individuals. The results
are sort of remarkable and really encouraging, especially for people who
never studied memory improvement. My research shows everyone doesn't need
to research memory improvement. Most folks just need to be encouraged to
use the memory methods that work well and are FUN. But I'm also a believer
in the idea that what works for one may not work on another. So, methods
which incorporate song, poetry, stories, art, etc. and all the human senses
are needed so anyone can relate. Why not try out some of these ideas on
some friends and let the memorylist people know how it works? Stir up one
another toward good works.
God's Grace to all of you,
NOEL
P.S. I feel God has a good reason for us meeting like this, so, please keep
in touch. We all need to know your joy and progress for our continued
research efforts.


To:       Noel M. Rini/American Electric Power
cc:
From:     David
Date:
Subject:

At 08:20 AM 3/25/98 -0500, you wrote:
>DAVID,
>
>I'm encouraged with your work. At last someone from the list is being
>really expressive and fruitful. I'm excited about your programming concept
>also. When will that be ready to test. I'd appreciate an opportunity to be
>a tester for you.
>
>Have you read the comments I posted to the list? If so, do you see any
>relationship between your method and the method I expressed?
>
>Grace to you,
>NOEL
>
>
Noel - thank you thank you thank you for pointing out your article!  I read
it and it sounds like a great technique!  Please explain this to me more...
Let me see if I got this straight... you create a cartoon for each
sentance.  The cartoons make up a movie.  And then you can recall the
entire passage by simply remembering each cartoon.  Is that right?
Could you explain any other details or "tricks" that help you with this
technique?
How detailed are your cartoons?  Do you have to be good at drawing?

"THE CARTOONS ARE NOT DETAILED. AND IT IS NOT NECCESSARY
TO BE GOOD AT DRAWING. THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO DRAW WHAT
YOU ARE IMAGINING. TO HAVE FUN. TO GET OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED
WITH YOU. THAT MAKES THE ACTIVITY MORE FUN AND PRODUCES
SYNERGISTIC, LONG-LASTING RESULTS."
Also, I'm interested in how you came about this technique.
You said you can remember the "66 books of the bible."  Could you explain
that, by giving perhaps an example of the first few books?
Thanks!

Hi! you were talking about headphones.  Well my husbands listens to
business
seminars alot before bed and after going through many pairs of headphones
he
went to Radio shack and purchased a pillow speaker.  It plugs in where
your head
phones would.  It works great.  Hope this is helpful.  Have a wonderful
day.
With HIS Love,
Peggy

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In a message dated 98-04-01 20:41:40 EST, you write:

<< Here's the ancient method - Simply read one sentance.  Then repeat it
 without looking at it.  When you got that sentance, do the same thing with
 the next sentance/phrase.  When you got that one, then put them together.
 Keep doing this until you got them both together.  Then add another
 sentance/phrase, etc.  You keep adding sentances, building upon what you got.

 The problem I got with that method is that by the time you get half-way
 through, you know the first few sentances very well, and the last ones
 barely at all.  It can get kind of frustrating.  >>

My twist on this "ancient" method is to reverse the order of memorization:
Start with the last sentence and work backwords to the begining. Then whatever
you are working on is always at the top and gets the most amount of
repititions. It really works.

Dean May
Terre Haute, IN

This is against email ettiquette.  I've recieved others like this one, and
they all were a hoax.  Let me assure you, forwarding this around can put your
email address on many spammers lists.  Sorry...but you should know these
things.
Best to you and yours!  Ysic, Sandi [lurking since joining]

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The idea of memorizing the passage backwards (i.e., memorize verse 10,
then verses 9 and 10, and then verses 8 and 9 and 10, etc.) is a very
good one.

This method is often employed in the study of foreign languages and has
proved quite successful.

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Hi,

My name is Heather.  I have always wanted to memorize the Bible but
found it very dificult.  It's wonderful to know that there are others
interested in doing the same.  Some support would be great.

God bless

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One of the easiest ways I've found to memorize Scripture is to memorize it
BACKWARDS!

For example, take John 3:16:
You start with the last word first...then the next to the last and add the
last.
Say it outloud and you will see how easy it is:


16

3:16

John 3:16

"life."

"eternal life."

"have eternal life."

"but have eternal llife."

"perish but have eternal life."

"shall not perish but have eternal life."

"him shall not perish but have eternal life."

"in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

"believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

"whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

"that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

"Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

"only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal
life."

"and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal
life."

"one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have
eternal life."

"his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have
eternal life."

"gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but
have eternal life."

"he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish
but have eternal life."

"that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not
perish but have eternal life."

"world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall
not perish but have eternal life."

"the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him
shall not perish but have eternal life."

"loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in
him shall not perish but have eternal life."

"so  loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes
in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

"God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16

Hi
I have not received anything for quite a while.  Remember, Romans 10:17
Gene

 I lost the letter about how exactly to go about "posting" messages. So i'm
sending It directly to you Gene. I'm sure you'll correct me of the procedure
if that is not right.

I guess I have been waiting to get a newsletter to get involved but since it
seems everyone else feels the same way, I guess I'll make a feeble attempt to
start. :)

I'm not involved in bible memory, although I'm fairly familiar with the bible
itself, if you asked me to recite a passage I would be stumped. I'm very
interested to know what passages any of you are studying. I believe I'm going
to start with Psalms 139 which is very comforting to me.

How do you go about learning his word? And for those of you who are "bible
memory giants" please enlighten the rest of us as to what blessings you have
gained..so as to help us get "Giddy with anticipation"!

 Love in Christ,
        Sarah

I agree share with us how it has helped you in your walk please
Jeanne

In a message dated 98-04-16 10:32:11 EDT, you write:

<< Subj:     Verification
 Date:  98-04-16 10:32:11 EDT
 From:  gnrazecom.net (Gene Rasmussen)
 Sender:    owner-biblememoryMyList.net
 Reply-to:  biblememoryMyList.net
 To:    biblememoryMyList.net

 Hi
 I have not received anything for quite a while.  Remember, Romans 10:17
 Gene

Can you please enlighten me as to what this is about?  I know I responded to
something about bible memorization but I think it was in reference to
something I was supposed to download.  I tried to download but have not been
able to figure out how to do this yet.  If I am successful with the download,
then I can't figure out how to retrieve it or get into it.

Just a computer illiterate..........HELP!

Connie

huh, i dont understand how this works. isnt this a biblememory letter of
somesort.  help!

i am signed up... then what?

courious

tukidmom34

For those of you who aren't quite sure what this is you're getting....It is a
bible memory discussion. To encourage each other, and inform each other about
memorization of large portions of God's word. :) If you have any questions or
suggestions, answers or comments just e-mail them on this newsletter
cirlcle(by pressing "REPLY"..and perhaps someone within the circle can respond
accordingly!  Best of luck to everyone

                                 In Him,
                                    Sarah

For new joiners and others, please follow the instructions listed below in
Stephen's memo and search the archives. As new information is generated, it
will be posted. I'm very busy at this time and can't provide answers. Also,
I have two text files that explains a lot about memory stuff. I've tried to
post these files to the memorylist but can't get it through the mechanisms
that control the web site. Maybe Stephen can come to my rescue.

To:       biblememory  MyList.net
cc:        (bcc: Noel M. Rini/American Electric Power)
From:     "Stephen Simpson" 
Date:     03/15/98 02:30:57 AM GMT
Subject:  List archives now on line




Greetings List Members,
    I have just set up a set of links to the biblememory list archives for
January and February.  These may be found at
http://home.istar.ca/~ssimpson/archives.shtml
Thank you
Stephen Simpson

Greetings Bible Memory List Members,

    There are now 108 members of the Biblememory Discussion list.   There
are several new list members which have asked some questions about how the
list works so I thought I would answer some of the questions here.


*** What is this list I have signed up to and how does it work?


This is an email discussion list. What this means is that if you reply to
this email, or any other email from the list, it will be sent to all other
subscribers.  This will happen whether you push that 'reply to all' or the
'reply to author' button on your mail reader program.  I suggest that you
end all messages you send to the list with your name and email address so
people can email you directly if they wish.  The purpose of this list is to
bring together the list members in such a way that they can have a
continuing discussion regarding the topic of Bible memorization and
meditation

*** I signed up for the list but have not received any message. What is
happening?

If you have not received any messges for some time it is because no one is
posting to the list.  Recently, it has been quite, because no one has had
anything to say.


*** How do I submit a message to the list?


If you send an email message to biblememorymylist.net, then the message
will be sent to all members of the list.

How do I remove myself from the list?


if you send a message to majordomomylist.net and put the words 'unsubscribe
biblememory'  (without the quotes) in the message body,  you will be removed
from the list.  If you have trouble, send a message to me at
ssimpsonistar.ca and I will remove you from the list.


Stephen Simpson

ssimpsonistar.ca
http://home.istar.ca/~ssimpson

A number of years ago I saw a  Bible memory system by Jerry Lucas.  Kids
related to it very well.  Does any one know if this is still avaliable?

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Hi Gene:

Grace and peace to you in Jesus.  What portion of scripture are you
presently memorizing?  Are you using any special methods?  I have been
memorizing the book of Philippians for a while now.  But I get
discouraged when I can't remember what I learnt the week before.  Any
help would be greatly appreciated.

Heather

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In a message dated 4/18/98 10:41:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ernestinehotmail.com writes:

<< I have been
 memorizing the book of Philippians for a while now.  But I get
 discouraged when I can't remember what I learnt the week before.  Any
 help would be greatly appreciated. >>

Heather,

Philipians is a great book to memorize because it offers such encouragement it
makes for great meditation.

Please don't get discouraged. Persistence is the key. Work on a chapter at a
time and once a day or every other day review the entire portion that you have
memorized. And every 3 or 4 days read the entire book out loud. It isn't that
long and it only takes about 15 minutes.

"Not that I have already attained all this or have already been made perfect,
but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me!"

Dean May
Terre Haute, IN

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>In a message dated 4/18/98 10:41:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>ernestinehotmail.com writes:
>
><< I have been
> memorizing the book of Philippians for a while now.  But I get
> discouraged when I can't remember what I learnt the week before.  Any
> help would be greatly appreciated. >>
>
>Heather,
>
>Philipians is a great book to memorize because it offers such
encouragement it
>makes for great meditation.
>
>Please don't get discouraged. Persistence is the key. Work on a chapter
at a
>time and once a day or every other day review the entire portion that
you have
>memorized. And every 3 or 4 days read the entire book out loud. It
isn't that
>long and it only takes about 15 minutes.
>
>"Not that I have already attained all this or have already been made
perfect,
>but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of
me!"
>
>Dean May
>Terre Haute, IN
>


Dear Dean May:

Grace and peace to you inJesus. Thanks so much for your words of
encouragement and advice.  Are you also studying this book and or there
anyone else studying this book?  It would be great to share ideas and
notes with someone else.

God bless

Heather (ernestinehotmail.com)

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At 01:16 PM 4/5/98 EDT, Andrew C Smith wrote:
>
>The idea of memorizing the passage backwards (i.e., memorize verse 10,
>then verses 9 and 10, and then verses 8 and 9 and 10, etc.) is a very
>good one.
>
>This method is often employed in the study of foreign languages and has
>proved quite successful.

In what way has it been applied to foreign languages?

>>The idea of memorizing the passage backwards (i.e., memorize verse 10,
>>then verses 9 and 10, and then verses 8 and 9 and 10, etc.) is a very
>>good one.
>>
>>This method is often employed in the study of foreign languages and has
>>proved quite successful.

>In what way has it been applied to foreign languages?

To learn a sentence in a foreign language, we often start with the last
word. Say it out loud. Then add the next-to-last word and say the two
words out loud in order. Keep adding one more word until you reach the
beginning of the sentence. If English were a foreign language to you,
you'd work like this:

earth.

the earth.

and the earth.

heavens and the earth.

the heavens and the earth.

created the heavens and the earth.

God created the heavens and the earth.

beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

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