Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 20:45:36 -0500 Subject: Re: Bible Friends From: David Stein Dear Friends, I'd like to start by saying that although I'm not religious, I'm currently interested in memorizing scripts and texts of some other books, which is why I joined this list. I felt this group may have some good information (which it does!) and also so I could share my findings with you. Here are some interesting methods you may try: Type or write your verses. This is a simple method to start familiarity with the words of the passage. I think an EXCELLENT idea here is to type then out and break them into AT MOST one sentance per line on the page. Maybe even one PHRASE per line. Why? There's a very good reason. In order to memorize, you need to "chunk" the process into small, easily accomplished processes. Here's the ancient method - Simply read one sentance. Then repeat it without looking at it. When you got that sentance, do the same thing with the next sentance/phrase. When you got that one, then put them together. Keep doing this until you got them both together. Then add another sentance/phrase, etc. You keep adding sentances, building upon what you got. The problem I got with that method is that by the time you get half-way through, you know the first few sentances very well, and the last ones barely at all. It can get kind of frustrating. That's why I'm creating a computer program to allow you to learn the whole thing at one time, without the frustration of the above method. One thing I've learned that's fun that you can do without a specialized computer program is to chunk the script into phrases and then "letterize them" so you end up with something like this: otI'vLt'sF One thing I've learned that's fun tycdw~oaSCP that you can do without a specialized computer program itCtSi~tP is to chunk the script into phrases atLt and then "letterize them" syEuws~tlt so you end up with something like this: The left side is the first letter of each word. Common words are lower case. I use 'v 's and 't for contraction of have, possesive, and not, respectively. I also use 's for "its". I use tilde (~) for compound words. And I don't use any other punctuation in the letterizing. We don't really speak or think in punctuation - its just natural. Its SURPRISINGLY easy to learn a LONG passage just by the first letters. And this is an EVEN learning process - you don't have to learn the first part before going onto the next phrase. Then just have a page like this: otI'vLt'sF tycdw~oaSCP itCtSi~tP atLt syEuws~tlt I would probably do the letterization step first for the entire passage, and then start working on memorizing it a sentance at a time, using the letterization page with one line per sentance: otI'vLt'sF tycdw~oaSCP itCtSi~tP atLt syEuws~tlt Here's another idea. Create your own recordings. If you have a half-decent computer (pentium) and a sound card, then download a program called COOL-EDIT. Its a wave-form recording/manipulation program. Record the passage you want to memorize. Then set up COOL-EDIT to loop the passage over and over. Hook up the output of your sound card into the input of your cassette deck and play record it on both sides of the tape. Now you have a tape that you can just listen to the selected passages over and over. Get a walkman to listen wherever you go! If you have an auto-reverse tape deck, you can have some fun with subliminal learning at night. Set yourself up with some headphones or your speaker system and listen all night long while you sleep! I tried this last night. It makes for some VERY INTERESTING dreams when your dream characters (and yourself) are talking and using the phrases of what's being said! I purchased a two-deck, looping casette player ($180), so it plays both sides of tape A, then both sides of tape B, and then back to both sides of tape A, etc. Get one with DOLBY recording so when you make tapes you can use DOLBY (reduces noise). Also, to make this set-up work, I purchased some light-weight 1/8" jack headphones from Radio Shack ($16) that have a super long chord and a volume control on the chord about a foot down from the headset. This works great because you want to set the volume VERY low so you can just hear it, but so you can get good rest as well. I also needed a 20-foot audio extension chord to get from the tape deck to my bedroom! Radio Shack has any kind of connector-converter you need in order to get your headset plugged properly into your casette deck. HOWEVER, NOTE that the headset is difficult to use when sleeping/rolling over. I'm going to investigate simply using two ear-pieces, along with a separate volume control. Make sure any plug-converter you purchase is for stereo (dual sound) rather than mono. Just tell your Radio Shack helper that everything must be stereo. Finally, there is some consideration that the mind can process multiple audio signals at the same time. So you could have two separate tape players going into a mixer, and having one channel sent to the left ear and the other channel sent to the right ear. I'll experiment with that as well. Actually, I'm going to mix some professional tapes with what I record (my own voice) into COOL-EDIT, and listen to the mix while I sleep! Another thing that is fun is simply reading the passages aloud while listening to the tape. This makes your mind work at multiple tasks. Listening, anticipating, reading, and talking engages your mind fully on the task. Use the letterization page! I think the ultimate would be to learn sign-language and add that into the mix above. Listening, reading, talking, and signing would be a whole-body learning process! I've also read, but have not experimented with, that Baroque (sp?) music, at its 60 beats per minute, has been proven to increase learning ability. So settle down with Baroque music first, and then do your studying. Also, early morning is the best time. Pick up one of those books on mega-learning or something. How about Diet? There are certain foods and suppliments that are good for memory. I would tell you what that poplular suppliment is.... BUT I FORGOT ITS NAME!!!! Oh wait... its Ginko Biloba or something like that. Doesn't that sound like a lizard-skin wallet?? No wait, that would be "Geko Billfold!" I bet having a partner that's also excited about memorizing would help you keep going! OK, that's all for now! Later, David =============================================================================== Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 8:46 PM Subject: RE: Bible Friends From: "McGuire, Morris E" David, I would be curious to know if your all night tape method has helped any. I have a tape deck like that and could try it I suppose. Anyway, thanks for those suggestions. I don't believe that it's required for you to be religious to participate in this group, after all, it was a religious crowd that put the Lord Jesus on the cross. I'm only picking on religion because one can be very (zealously) religious and not have a clue of the love that overcomes and overlooks a multitude of sins. Welcome to the group. Look forward to hearing from you. -----Original Message----- From: David Stein [mailto:dsteinmediaone.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 8:46 PM To: biblememoryMyList.net Subject: Re: Bible Friends Dear Friends, I'd like to start by saying that although I'm not religious, I'm currently interested in memorizing scripts and texts of some other books, which is why I joined this list. I felt this group may have some good information (which it does!) and also so I could share my findings with you. Here are some interesting methods you may try: Type or write your verses. This is a simple method to start familiarity with the words of the passage. I think an EXCELLENT idea here is to type then out and break them into AT MOST one sentance per line on the page. Maybe even one PHRASE per line. Why? There's a very good reason. In order to memorize, you need to "chunk" the process into small, easily accomplished processes. Here's the ancient method - Simply read one sentance. Then repeat it without looking at it. When you got that sentance, do the same thing with the next sentance/phrase. When you got that one, then put them together. Keep doing this until you got them both together. Then add another sentance/phrase, etc. You keep adding sentances, building upon what you got. The problem I got with that method is that by the time you get half-way through, you know the first few sentances very well, and the last ones barely at all. It can get kind of frustrating. That's why I'm creating a computer program to allow you to learn the whole thing at one time, without the frustration of the above method. One thing I've learned that's fun that you can do without a specialized computer program is to chunk the script into phrases and then "letterize them" so you end up with something like this: otI'vLt'sF One thing I've learned that's fun tycdw~oaSCP that you can do without a specialized computer program itCtSi~tP is to chunk the script into phrases atLt and then "letterize them" syEuws~tlt so you end up with something like this: The left side is the first letter of each word. Common words are lower case. I use 'v 's and 't for contraction of have, possesive, and not, respectively. I also use 's for "its". I use tilde (~) for compound words. And I don't use any other punctuation in the letterizing. We don't really speak or think in punctuation - its just natural. Its SURPRISINGLY easy to learn a LONG passage just by the first letters. And this is an EVEN learning process - you don't have to learn the first part before going onto the next phrase. Then just have a page like this: otI'vLt'sF tycdw~oaSCP itCtSi~tP atLt syEuws~tlt I would probably do the letterization step first for the entire passage, and then start working on memorizing it a sentance at a time, using the letterization page with one line per sentance: otI'vLt'sF tycdw~oaSCP itCtSi~tP atLt syEuws~tlt Here's another idea. Create your own recordings. If you have a half-decent computer (pentium) and a sound card, then download a program called COOL-EDIT. Its a wave-form recording/manipulation program. Record the passage you want to memorize. Then set up COOL-EDIT to loop the passage over and over. Hook up the output of your sound card into the input of your cassette deck and play record it on both sides of the tape. Now you have a tape that you can just listen to the selected passages over and over. Get a walkman to listen wherever you go! If you have an auto-reverse tape deck, you can have some fun with subliminal learning at night. Set yourself up with some headphones or your speaker system and listen all night long while you sleep! I tried this last night. It makes for some VERY INTERESTING dreams when your dream characters (and yourself) are talking and using the phrases of what's being said! I purchased a two-deck, looping casette player ($180), so it plays both sides of tape A, then both sides of tape B, and then back to both sides of tape A, etc. Get one with DOLBY recording so when you make tapes you can use DOLBY (reduces noise). Also, to make this set-up work, I purchased some light-weight 1/8" jack headphones from Radio Shack ($16) that have a super long chord and a volume control on the chord about a foot down from the headset. This works great because you want to set the volume VERY low so you can just hear it, but so you can get good rest as well. I also needed a 20-foot audio extension chord to get from the tape deck to my bedroom! Radio Shack has any kind of connector-converter you need in order to get your headset plugged properly into your casette deck. HOWEVER, NOTE that the headset is difficult to use when sleeping/rolling over. I'm going to investigate simply using two ear-pieces, along with a separate volume control. Make sure any plug-converter you purchase is for stereo (dual sound) rather than mono. Just tell your Radio Shack helper that everything must be stereo. Finally, there is some consideration that the mind can process multiple audio signals at the same time. So you could have two separate tape players going into a mixer, and having one channel sent to the left ear and the other channel sent to the right ear. I'll experiment with that as well. Actually, I'm going to mix some professional tapes with what I record (my own voice) into COOL-EDIT, and listen to the mix while I sleep! Another thing that is fun is simply reading the passages aloud while listening to the tape. This makes your mind work at multiple tasks. Listening, anticipating, reading, and talking engages your mind fully on the task. Use the letterization page! I think the ultimate would be to learn sign-language and add that into the mix above. Listening, reading, talking, and signing would be a whole-body learning process! I've also read, but have not experimented with, that Baroque (sp?) music, at its 60 beats per minute, has been proven to increase learning ability. So settle down with Baroque music first, and then do your studying. Also, early morning is the best time. Pick up one of those books on mega-learning or something. How about Diet? There are certain foods and suppliments that are good for memory. I would tell you what that poplular suppliment is.... BUT I FORGOT ITS NAME!!!! Oh wait... its Ginko Biloba or something like that. Doesn't that sound like a lizard-skin wallet?? No wait, that would be "Geko Billfold!" I bet having a partner that's also excited about memorizing would help you keep going! OK, that's all for now! Later, David =============================================================================== Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 07:58:57 -0600 Subject: Bible Memory From: Tamara Carman Hi everyone, I don't know if the list has been inactive for a few days or if I'm just not getting the messages. ;-) I've had some computer problems. Could the person who sent me the way to learn the new testament (with the 2 funny sentences) please write to me and send me his old testament ways now. If I remember right it had something to do with two buildings or something. Hope that makes sense. Thanks, Tamara =============================================================================== Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 12:45:59 -0500 Subject: Bible Friends From: Dear Bible Friends, I posted a different version of this message on the memorylist once before, and the response was very interesting (see example below), so I'm providing additional clarity and two fabulous research articles on memory techniques. I have to send the text files seperately because of their size. Also, new people have joined the list recently and have missed out on some earlier discussions. These files are wonderfully descriptive of memory techniques, and will excite you and lead you into other potentially fruitful searchs and endeavors concerning how to best utilize your intellect/memory. I'll be sending those files along sometime soon. I would love to pull together a group of zealous and curious Christians like all of you, (Stephen and A.C. Smith, where are you?) to research and develop the "perfect" way to memorize and really learn and apply God's Word (maybe it already exists (or maybe there is no such thing)). I'm speculating that through these discussions with all of you, potentially we could put together a substantial and meaningful way to memorize God's Word. You have the need, I have the need, everybody has the need for knowing, applying and teaching God's Word. As mentioned in earlier emails, I started with the end in view as though I had a difficult puzzle to solve. Having the end in view is a good, good way to begin, don't you think? And working backwards from there reveals the critical path. The idea is analogous to putting together a complex jigsaw puzzle. Initially, I began this research adventure by asking myself the who, what, when, where, how and why questions. And I ended up with some answers which resulted in my proposing a teaching curriculum to my pastors Sunday, 3/15. The orienting factors were based on my church's direction, and what the pastors and people are wanting to accomplish. So far, the pastors have not asked for a meeting to discuss the curriculum, that is to say, they may want to go with a different direction, or not at all. Since no one has done it yet, I had to figure out an easy, fun way to memorize all the books of the bible, that appeals to the largest group. It took some time and effort, but I came up with some sentences using the mnemonic association plus a cartoon of the sentence. Admittedly, the sentances are a little goofy. Eventually, this sentence plus cartoon method enabled me to easily know all the bible book names in order, out of order and in reverse. It's hard to imagine how delighted I was to have accomplished it. I never did anything like that before. And now, knowing the bible book names seems relatively easy and I want to move on to knowing my favorite bible book's outlines. With outlines, more people will need to be involved and will need to share their work. I can't do it all. I need help from other interested people to construct the mnemonics and associative devices for each Bible book. I think a good place to start would be with J. Vernon McGee's Bible Book Outlines or his Briefing of the Bible. You must realize that according to the memory/study experts it is important to start your study by building a frame work consisting of the biggest concepts first and drilling down progressively to the smallest, most intricate concepts last. Thus, the book's names first, then the outlines, then chunks of favorite chapters, then verses, then topics (because topics are disrelated). Obviously, there is nothing inherently "wrong" with memorizing only the verses. The point is, if a person wants to get the most out of what they are doing with bible memory, they would be better off doing it by starting with the big concepts and working progressively downward to the smallest, most intricate concepts. This has the effect of locking everything together very tightly, and providing the most memory hooks possible to interlock all the information tightly together. "MoM LuGs ARCs at GE Power Company To Transmit from The Tower" describes the first 17 New Testament book's names. I made a Lotus Freelance graphic depicting this scene. This is a picture of a mom carrying lighting through a power station where electricity is being transmitted out to the power lines. "FILL A MAN with BREW and he plays GAMES in PJs BACKWARDS" describes the last 10 book's names The picture here is of a man dressed in pajamas, bending over backwards, playing the game Twister after having had "one to many ". Philemon and Hebrews go wonderfully together this way, don't you think? Between these two sentences all the New Testament books are named in order. Can you find them? And if (rather when) you get a firm impression of the picture in your imagination which depicts the sentence, you will realise that if you recollect any part of the picture you will remember all of it, instantly. And you will be able to recite the book names in reverse, forward or out of order if you wish. Having this ability will make you smile REAL BIG and you will feel great inside. I worked with the Old Testament book names in a similar way and developed several sentences for handling those as well. Pictures are not available for them yet. The sentance that describes the first 17 books of the Old Testament is this; "Generations Expand while God Judges Ruth's Chronic KinSman, ENE (mene mine moe which one will be next.)" It must be taught that "Chronic KinSman" is actually the reverse order of the way the books appear in the bible, i.e. Samual, Kings, Chronicles is the natural order (the one, to the few, to the many). "Is a germ a man? Easy Denial" i.e. Major Prophets. I'll have to provide the other mnemonic sentances some other time. Using the following cartoon idea a person can also, easily know the numeric sequence of any bible book. The picture is of all the bible books stacked on top of each other from the 1st through the 66th. And that picture resembles a 2 story building with 65 windows and a roof. The first story has 5 rows of windows. The second story has 4 rows of windows. The first row of 5 at the bottom is the Pentatuch. The next row is the 12 History books. Next are the 5 Poetry books. Next are the 5 Major Prophets. Next are the 12 Minor Prophets. On top of the first story are 4 Gospels, 1 Church History, 13 Paul's Epistles, 8 Other Epistles and the roof, Revelation. If I had a scanner I might be able to provide the supporting graphics. I've been testing this method on small groups and individuals. The results are sort of remarkable and really encouraging, especially for people who never studied memory improvement. My research shows everyone doesn't need to research memory improvement. Most folks just need to be encouraged to use the memory methods that work well and are FUN. But I'm also a believer in the idea that what works for one may not work on another. So, methods which incorporate song, poetry, stories, art, etc. and all the human senses are needed so anyone can relate. Why not try out some of these ideas on some friends and let the memorylist people know how it works? Stir up one another toward good works. God's Grace to all of you, NOEL P.S. I feel God has a good reason for us meeting like this, so, please keep in touch. We all need to know your joy and progress for our continued research efforts. To: Noel M. Rini/American Electric Power cc: From: David Date: Subject: At 08:20 AM 3/25/98 -0500, you wrote: >DAVID, > >I'm encouraged with your work. At last someone from the list is being >really expressive and fruitful. I'm excited about your programming concept >also. When will that be ready to test. I'd appreciate an opportunity to be >a tester for you. > >Have you read the comments I posted to the list? If so, do you see any >relationship between your method and the method I expressed? > >Grace to you, >NOEL > > Noel - thank you thank you thank you for pointing out your article! I read it and it sounds like a great technique! Please explain this to me more... Let me see if I got this straight... you create a cartoon for each sentance. The cartoons make up a movie. And then you can recall the entire passage by simply remembering each cartoon. Is that right? Could you explain any other details or "tricks" that help you with this technique? How detailed are your cartoons? Do you have to be good at drawing? "THE CARTOONS ARE NOT DETAILED. AND IT IS NOT NECCESSARY TO BE GOOD AT DRAWING. THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO DRAW WHAT YOU ARE IMAGINING. TO HAVE FUN. TO GET OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH YOU. THAT MAKES THE ACTIVITY MORE FUN AND PRODUCES SYNERGISTIC, LONG-LASTING RESULTS." Also, I'm interested in how you came about this technique. You said you can remember the "66 books of the bible." Could you explain that, by giving perhaps an example of the first few books? Thanks! =============================================================================== Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 02:12:09 EST Subject: Re: Bible Friends From:Y A DEEM) Hi! you were talking about headphones. Well my husbands listens to business seminars alot before bed and after going through many pairs of headphones he went to Radio shack and purchased a pillow speaker. It plugs in where your head phones would. It works great. Hope this is helpful. Have a wonderful day. With HIS Love, Peggy _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] =============================================================================== Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:49:08 EST Subject: Re: Bible Friends From: DeanMay In a message dated 98-04-01 20:41:40 EST, you write: << Here's the ancient method - Simply read one sentance. Then repeat it without looking at it. When you got that sentance, do the same thing with the next sentance/phrase. When you got that one, then put them together. Keep doing this until you got them both together. Then add another sentance/phrase, etc. You keep adding sentances, building upon what you got. The problem I got with that method is that by the time you get half-way through, you know the first few sentances very well, and the last ones barely at all. It can get kind of frustrating. >> My twist on this "ancient" method is to reverse the order of memorization: Start with the last sentence and work backwords to the begining. Then whatever you are working on is always at the top and gets the most amount of repititions. It really works. Dean May Terre Haute, IN =============================================================================== Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 20:56:00 -0600 Subject: Re: flayfestjuno.com (Jason W Walton): flayerjuno.com: todd From: This is against email ettiquette. I've recieved others like this one, and they all were a hoax. Let me assure you, forwarding this around can put your email address on many spammers lists. Sorry...but you should know these things. Best to you and yours! 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Smith http://www.geocities.com/athens/acropolis/5680 a.c.smithjuno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] =============================================================================== Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 17:51:37 PDT From: "Heather-Dawn Small" Hi, My name is Heather. I have always wanted to memorize the Bible but found it very dificult. It's wonderful to know that there are others interested in doing the same. Some support would be great. God bless ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com =============================================================================== Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:59:40 EDT Subject: Backwards! From: WascallyW One of the easiest ways I've found to memorize Scripture is to memorize it BACKWARDS! For example, take John 3:16: You start with the last word first...then the next to the last and add the last. Say it outloud and you will see how easy it is: 16 3:16 John 3:16 "life." "eternal life." "have eternal life." "but have eternal llife." "perish but have eternal life." "shall not perish but have eternal life." "him shall not perish but have eternal life." "in him shall not perish but have eternal life." "believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." "whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." "that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." "Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." "only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." "and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." "one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." "his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." "gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." "he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." "that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." "world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." "the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." "loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." "so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." "God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 =============================================================================== Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:30:42 -0700 Subject: Verification From: "Gene Rasmussen" Hi I have not received anything for quite a while. Remember, Romans 10:17 Gene =============================================================================== Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:37:56 EDT Subject: Re: Verification From: ShadwLands I lost the letter about how exactly to go about "posting" messages. So i'm sending It directly to you Gene. I'm sure you'll correct me of the procedure if that is not right. I guess I have been waiting to get a newsletter to get involved but since it seems everyone else feels the same way, I guess I'll make a feeble attempt to start. :) I'm not involved in bible memory, although I'm fairly familiar with the bible itself, if you asked me to recite a passage I would be stumped. I'm very interested to know what passages any of you are studying. I believe I'm going to start with Psalms 139 which is very comforting to me. How do you go about learning his word? And for those of you who are "bible memory giants" please enlighten the rest of us as to what blessings you have gained..so as to help us get "Giddy with anticipation"! Love in Christ, Sarah =============================================================================== Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:19:21 +0000 Subject: Re: Verification From: "Jeanne" I agree share with us how it has helped you in your walk please Jeanne =============================================================================== Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:30:41 EDT Subject: Re: Verification From: JACOFAM In a message dated 98-04-16 10:32:11 EDT, you write: << Subj: Verification Date: 98-04-16 10:32:11 EDT From: gnrazecom.net (Gene Rasmussen) Sender: owner-biblememoryMyList.net Reply-to: biblememoryMyList.net To: biblememoryMyList.net Hi I have not received anything for quite a while. Remember, Romans 10:17 Gene Can you please enlighten me as to what this is about? I know I responded to something about bible memorization but I think it was in reference to something I was supposed to download. I tried to download but have not been able to figure out how to do this yet. If I am successful with the download, then I can't figure out how to retrieve it or get into it. Just a computer illiterate..........HELP! Connie =============================================================================== Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 00:51:01 EDT Subject: Re: Verification From: TukidMom34 huh, i dont understand how this works. isnt this a biblememory letter of somesort. help! i am signed up... then what? courious tukidmom34 =============================================================================== Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:09:49 EDT Subject: Re: Verification From: ShadwLands For those of you who aren't quite sure what this is you're getting....It is a bible memory discussion. To encourage each other, and inform each other about memorization of large portions of God's word. :) If you have any questions or suggestions, answers or comments just e-mail them on this newsletter cirlcle(by pressing "REPLY"..and perhaps someone within the circle can respond accordingly! Best of luck to everyone In Him, Sarah =============================================================================== Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:20:57 -0400 Subject: List archives now on line From: For new joiners and others, please follow the instructions listed below in Stephen's memo and search the archives. As new information is generated, it will be posted. I'm very busy at this time and can't provide answers. Also, I have two text files that explains a lot about memory stuff. I've tried to post these files to the memorylist but can't get it through the mechanisms that control the web site. Maybe Stephen can come to my rescue. To: biblememory MyList.net cc: (bcc: Noel M. Rini/American Electric Power) From: "Stephen Simpson" Date: 03/15/98 02:30:57 AM GMT Subject: List archives now on line Greetings List Members, I have just set up a set of links to the biblememory list archives for January and February. These may be found at http://home.istar.ca/~ssimpson/archives.shtml Thank you Stephen Simpson =============================================================================== Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:47:00 -0400 Subject: BibleMemory: Administrative Message From: "Stephen Simpson" Greetings Bible Memory List Members, There are now 108 members of the Biblememory Discussion list. There are several new list members which have asked some questions about how the list works so I thought I would answer some of the questions here. *** What is this list I have signed up to and how does it work? This is an email discussion list. What this means is that if you reply to this email, or any other email from the list, it will be sent to all other subscribers. This will happen whether you push that 'reply to all' or the 'reply to author' button on your mail reader program. I suggest that you end all messages you send to the list with your name and email address so people can email you directly if they wish. The purpose of this list is to bring together the list members in such a way that they can have a continuing discussion regarding the topic of Bible memorization and meditation *** I signed up for the list but have not received any message. What is happening? If you have not received any messges for some time it is because no one is posting to the list. Recently, it has been quite, because no one has had anything to say. *** How do I submit a message to the list? If you send an email message to biblememorymylist.net, then the message will be sent to all members of the list. How do I remove myself from the list? if you send a message to majordomomylist.net and put the words 'unsubscribe biblememory' (without the quotes) in the message body, you will be removed from the list. If you have trouble, send a message to me at ssimpsonistar.ca and I will remove you from the list. Stephen Simpson ssimpsonistar.ca http://home.istar.ca/~ssimpson =============================================================================== Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 03:01:20 -0400 Subject: Bible Memory systems From: "Karen Cann" A number of years ago I saw a Bible memory system by Jerry Lucas. Kids related to it very well. Does any one know if this is still avaliable? =============================================================================== Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 07:39:59 PDT Subject: Re: Verification From: "Heather-Dawn Small" >>From owner-biblememorymylist.net Thu Apr 16 07:32:04 1998 >Received: from mylist.net (mylist.net [192.41.44.47]) by monkey.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id IAA29703; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:32:03 -0600 (MDT) >Received: from localhost (mylistlocalhost) by mylist.net (8.8.5) id IAA08551; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:31:58 -0600 (MDT) >Received: by mylist.net (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:31:57 -0600 >Received: (mylistlocalhost) by mylist.net (8.8.5) id IAA08482; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:31:53 -0600 (MDT) >Received: from amber.ecom.net (ns1.ecom.net [207.13.224.10]) by mylist.net (8.8.5) id IAA08352; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:31:44 -0600 (MDT) >Received: from gnraz (b170.ecom.net [207.13.225.170]) > by amber.ecom.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA29990 > for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:31:40 -0700 (PDT) > (envelope-from gnrazecom.net) >Message-Id: <199804161431.HAA29990amber.ecom.net> >From: "Gene Rasmussen" >To: >Subject: Verification >Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:30:42 -0700 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Priority: 3 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Sender: owner-biblememoryMyList.net >Reply-To: biblememoryMyList.net > >Hi >I have not received anything for quite a while. Remember, Romans 10:17 >Gene > Hi Gene: Grace and peace to you in Jesus. What portion of scripture are you presently memorizing? Are you using any special methods? I have been memorizing the book of Philippians for a while now. But I get discouraged when I can't remember what I learnt the week before. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Heather ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com =============================================================================== Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 11:43:26 EDT Subject: Re: Verification From: DeanMay In a message dated 4/18/98 10:41:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ernestinehotmail.com writes: << I have been memorizing the book of Philippians for a while now. But I get discouraged when I can't remember what I learnt the week before. Any help would be greatly appreciated. >> Heather, Philipians is a great book to memorize because it offers such encouragement it makes for great meditation. Please don't get discouraged. Persistence is the key. Work on a chapter at a time and once a day or every other day review the entire portion that you have memorized. And every 3 or 4 days read the entire book out loud. It isn't that long and it only takes about 15 minutes. "Not that I have already attained all this or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me!" Dean May Terre Haute, IN =============================================================================== Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 12:57:31 PDT Subject: Re: Verification From: "Heather-Dawn Small" >>From owner-biblememorymylist.net Sat Apr 18 08:44:35 1998 >Received: from mylist.net (mylist.net [192.41.44.47]) by monkey.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id JAA28051; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 09:44:32 -0600 (MDT) >Received: from localhost (mylistlocalhost) by mylist.net (8.8.5) id JAA19368; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 09:44:27 -0600 (MDT) >Received: by mylist.net (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sat, 18 Apr 1998 09:44:27 -0600 >Received: (mylistlocalhost) by mylist.net (8.8.5) id JAA19339; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 09:44:25 -0600 (MDT) >Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.65]) by mylist.net (8.8.5) id JAA19323; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 09:44:21 -0600 (MDT) >Received: from DeanMayaol.com > by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv14.1) id KQZBa23305 > for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 11:43:26 -0400 (EDT) >From: DeanMay >Message-ID: >Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 11:43:26 EDT >To: biblememoryMyList.net >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Subject: Re: Verification >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 >Sender: owner-biblememoryMyList.net >Reply-To: biblememoryMyList.net > >In a message dated 4/18/98 10:41:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >ernestinehotmail.com writes: > ><< I have been > memorizing the book of Philippians for a while now. But I get > discouraged when I can't remember what I learnt the week before. Any > help would be greatly appreciated. >> > >Heather, > >Philipians is a great book to memorize because it offers such encouragement it >makes for great meditation. > >Please don't get discouraged. Persistence is the key. Work on a chapter at a >time and once a day or every other day review the entire portion that you have >memorized. And every 3 or 4 days read the entire book out loud. It isn't that >long and it only takes about 15 minutes. > >"Not that I have already attained all this or have already been made perfect, >but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me!" > >Dean May >Terre Haute, IN > Dear Dean May: Grace and peace to you inJesus. Thanks so much for your words of encouragement and advice. Are you also studying this book and or there anyone else studying this book? It would be great to share ideas and notes with someone else. God bless Heather (ernestinehotmail.com) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com =============================================================================== Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 03:04:20 -0400 Subject: Re: Backwards memorizing... From: David Stein At 01:16 PM 4/5/98 EDT, Andrew C Smith wrote: > >The idea of memorizing the passage backwards (i.e., memorize verse 10, >then verses 9 and 10, and then verses 8 and 9 and 10, etc.) is a very >good one. > >This method is often employed in the study of foreign languages and has >proved quite successful. In what way has it been applied to foreign languages? =============================================================================== Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 22:57:51 EDT Subject: Backwards memorizing... From:ew C Smith) >>The idea of memorizing the passage backwards (i.e., memorize verse 10, >>then verses 9 and 10, and then verses 8 and 9 and 10, etc.) is a very >>good one. >> >>This method is often employed in the study of foreign languages and has >>proved quite successful. >In what way has it been applied to foreign languages? To learn a sentence in a foreign language, we often start with the last word. Say it out loud. Then add the next-to-last word and say the two words out loud in order. Keep adding one more word until you reach the beginning of the sentence. If English were a foreign language to you, you'd work like this: earth. the earth. and the earth. heavens and the earth. the heavens and the earth. created the heavens and the earth. God created the heavens and the earth. beginning God created the heavens and the earth. the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ===============================================================================