Greetings,

It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture
Memory Email Discussion List.  During the last several months I have been
tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work.  (My father
passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work).
So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.

Now however, I would like to get things going again ...

>  If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with  the words
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I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of
Memorizing Scripture.

How is everybody doing?

What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?

What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing
scripture had on your relationship with God and others?


Stephen Simpson
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Greetings,

It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture
Memory Email Discussion List.  During the last several months I have been
tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work.  (My father
passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work).
So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.

Now however, I would like to get things going again ...

>  If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with  the words
> "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top  of the body of the
> message.

I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of
Memorizing Scripture.

How is everybody doing?

What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?

What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing
scripture had on your relationship with God and others?


Stephen Simpson
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 Things have been extremely busy around here as well. However, I am glad you are
energizing this list again as I have been needing some encouragement to move to
the next level.

Right now I have about 900 verses memorized and I review them each week.
However, I just don't seem to have room in my brain to memorize any more.
Any thoughts on how to move forward?

Also, how are folks using their memorized verses to meditate on scripture.
I'd be interested in some ideas.

Best Regards,

Lorry Schoenly
E-mail: lorryschoenly()earthlink.net

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Greetings,

It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture
Memory Email Discussion List.  During the last several months I have been
tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work.  (My father
passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work).
So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.

Now however, I would like to get things going again ...

>  If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with  the words
> "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top  of the body of the
> message.

I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of
Memorizing Scripture.

How is everybody doing?

What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?

What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing
scripture had on your relationship with God and others?


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I am an Awana leader & commander. I earned my citatation award by doing 14 books
several years ago & am working on my second one. Have memorized about 800 verses
so far Jodi

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Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join and have a
group of Christians with which to memorize large sections of the Bible. I am
homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want to teach them as well. Hope
to get to know you all soon!! Thanks, Michele




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Hi, Michele!
 
It is good to hear from you - I have memorized chapters, occasionally, and hope
to get back to memorizing larger portions of scritpture, but for the next 40
days ro so will be focusing on individual verses, or short portions.  Let me
know what you are working on - I need some ideas for larger portions for after
this period - I had been working on the 119 Psalm, but had to take a break when
my life became too hectic - I have the first few stanzas memorized, but will
have to review them.
 
I homeschooled our four children, and now that they have all grown up they have
each one thanked me for doing so.  When they started college they were amazed at
how easy it was for them, plus, there were a lot of problems they did not get
into that I think would have been more dificult to avoid had they been in the
public school.  Hang in there - I know there will be some tough days, but it
will be worth it!
 
Let me hear when you can,
Denna

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Michelle, one of the best ways to get young children excited about Scripture
memory is through Scripture songs.  If you prefer the NIV, some of the best are
"NIV Kids Club" and "GT and the Halo Express"  If you prefer the King James, you
can use "Thy Word Productions"  Steve Green also has two videos/cds out with
Scripture Memory songs using various translations.

Phil Walker

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> and have a group of Christians with which to memorize large sections
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> to teach them as well. Hope to get to know you all soon!! Thanks,
> Michele
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Hi Stephen and others,

At the moment I really discovered the importance to know yourself. Both
spiritually and physically.

Memorization can really help in your walk with the Lord. But we have to be
careful to memorize the right texts. What is our argument to choose a text to
memorize? Is it to boost of our huge Bible knowledge so we can show off to
everyone that we 'even' know that verse? Or is it exactly the verse the Lord
wants us to know by heart? The verse that we struggle with and makes us feel we
have a long way to go with the Lord in this exact area.

I personally believe that there is no text in the Bible that is 'theory only'.
Even the genealogies were intended to indicate the right person to do a
ministry. There is no theoretical knowledge needed to be able to enter the
Kingdom. So if God is trying to change me, I should listen to the texts He wants
me to hear.

It is also important to know yourself physically. How is your brain functioning?
People tend to have preferences in memorization techniques; so let's use that.
People often use the phrase 'photographic memory' when they mean 'very good
memory'. But it is rather a description of how that brain prefers to remember
things: by pictures! People like that have bad luck when it comes to Bible
memorization; there are no pictures in most Bibles. They often have to create
their own mental pictures when they try to memorize the Bible.
But there is much more your brain can prefer to remember. Some prefer written
text. I personally am an audio person. At school I never did my homework because
I didn't need to (my teachers disagreed on that...).
If I visited the lessons, I listened to the explanation of the teacher and that
was sufficient for me to pass tests, including my exams. Even now I remember a
lot of what these teachers said to me almost 20 years ago. I should use that in
Bible memorization. So I mainly use audio bibles. There are plenty.

For Dutch speaking persons like me, there is http://www.voorleesbijbel.nl/ My
English speaking brothers and sisters may use http://www.audiotreasure.com/
Other languages, including Hebrew old testament for the original text
users: http://www.audioscripture.com/
And a greek new testament is found at
http://www.ccel.org/a/anonymous/gnt/home.html
Pronounced better, but (for now) incomplete greek and latin new
testament: http://www.greeklatinaudio.com/

This is what is freely available, ready to download and use. But there are also
good products available commercially, or you could ask libraries for the blind
if they have audio bibles available to seeing persons as well.
Synthetic speech can be a 'last resort' if your favorite translation is not
available...

OK, enough about audio bibles. What I try to say is that it is useful to
investigate how your memory works and use that. It can really be frustrating
otherwise.

Terry

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Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join and have a
group of Christians with which to memorize large sections of the Bible. I am
homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want to teach them as well. Hope
to get to know you all soon!! Thanks, Michele




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I definately would like to be invovled with this list, however right now my
memorizing has been stagnating to a point.  God has been dealing with me the
last week or so on this, that I need to get back with the review and learning
new verses, so your mail came just in time to confirm what He has been saying.

 
I had been memorizing a verse a day for a period, but then life became hectic (I
became ill, my husband developed health problems, I begans taking
11 graduate hours while working full time, I am having to drive 800-1000 miles a
week, and just life in general).  I am starting tomorrow with a 40 day Lent
project - I do one each year - and will be focusing on praise and worship, and
plan on memorizing 40 new verses during this period.  I would like to ask for
prayer, that God give me the ability and keep me focused, not allowing me to be
distracted from this by all the other requirements of my life.

 
I am looking forward to hearing from others about what they are doing, how they
are accomplishing it, and the changes that have been made in their lives as a
result of hiding His word in their hearts.

 
Denna



Bible Memory List  wrote:

Greetings,

It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture
Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending
to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away,
a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work).
So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.

Now however, I would like to get things going again ...

> If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with the words
> "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top of the body of the
> message.

I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of
Memorizing Scripture.

How is everybody doing?

What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?

What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing
scripture had on your relationship with God and others?


Stephen Simpson
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Dear Stephen:


The Lord has been working in my life, and I praise Him for it. For one thing, He
has given me a deep desire to memorize His words. I am memorizing books of the
Bible, and am in chapter 8 of Romans.

At times it seems too hard to be a Bible memory fanatic. I want to be an
encouragement to others interested in Bible memory, and hopefully, your ministry
will be a source of encouragement to me.

Please visit my site, www.PursuingLife.com, sometime. It's a discipleship site
devoted to Bible Memory enthusiasts. May Jesus Christ by praised!

Sincerely,
Lavern Gingerich



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Greetings,

It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture
Memory Email Discussion List.  During the last several months I have been
tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work.  (My father
passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work).
So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.

Now however, I would like to get things going again ...

>  If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with  the words
> "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top  of the body of the
> message.

I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of
Memorizing Scripture.

How is everybody doing?

What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?

What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing
scripture had on your relationship with God and others?


Stephen Simpson
Bible Memory List Moderator

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To the members of the Bible Memory List,

The past few months have been busy for me with regards to bible memory.  I
recently (October) got my website up at http://www.word2life.com which is Bible
memory and Bible presentation centric.  Also I've determine to embark on a
challenging Bible memory task this year; that is, I've determined to memorize
Proverbs 10 - 31.  God has impressed upon me that I need to grow in wisdom and
what better way to gain wisdom than to memorize Proverbs!  I'm moving along at a
rate of about 2 verses a day and spend 10 to 12 hours a week on the project.  By
employing Supermemo and various mneumonic techiques I'm confident that the task
is doable and that the verses will be lodged in memory for life.

In Christ
David Baldwin



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Greetings,

It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture
Memory Email Discussion List.  During the last several months I have been
tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work.  (My father

passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work).
So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.

Now however, I would like to get things going again ...

 

 If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with  the words
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message.
   


I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of
Memorizing Scripture.

How is everybody doing?

What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?

What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing
scripture had on your relationship with God and others?


Stephen Simpson
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I also home-school and would love to be a part of this group.    I really look
forward to sharing with the people on this list in the word.  I love to memorize
scripture.  I really desire to get back into it and need motivation.  I have two
little ones and one on the way.  I'm trying to memorize Acts...it's been an
ongoing project that is taking way too long.  I know that it is ultimately in
the Lord's hands, but as I said, I do need encouragement and motivation, which
is why I joined this group.  I've memorized Philippians, which is a much smaller
book and it didn't take me near this long.  All I know is that memorizing puts
my mind on the things of God and changes my outlook completely.  As a busy
mother it is a wonderful way to be renewed daily in the word.  It also greatly
influences my dealings with others, especially my children.  Well, gotta run. 
Hope to hear from you all.

 
Love in Jesus

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Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join and have a
group of Christians with which to memorize large sections of the Bible. I am
homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want to teach them

as well. Hope to get to know you all soon!! Thanks, Michele




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Dear Friends,

Greetings from Leicester, UK!  I work with a Sunday School group for 5-7 year
olds, and am very keen to have the children memorising a verse a month in a
one-year cycle - so 12 verses altogether.  John 3:16, John 14:6 and Acts 1:8
already memorised (allegedly...) I would be very interested in members' views on
THE 12 verses to go for.  If (as I hope) this generates a fair bit of
correspondence, remember that any additional verse requires another to be
jettisoned!


With many thanks for your help and very best wishes,



Geoff

Dr Geoff Tennant
Mathematics Education Lecturer
School of Education
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New web site: www.scripturememorychallenge.org

Memorizing and Loving it

Dear memorizing friends,

Hi.  My name is Phil Walker.  I have been a member for a couple years now and
always enjoy reading how God is at work in your lives in the area of Scripture
memory.

My most recent memorized chapters are ISAIAH 53 (25 of us at Upton Lake
Christian School in Clinton Corners, NY memorized this as a school project) and
ISAIAH 6 (in joining one of my students who decided on his own to memorize
this.)  Both have long been on my "someday" list, and it was a thrill to get
them.  The majesty of God (6) and the glorious suffering of Christ (53) have
given me some wonderful things to meditate on.

I would like to encourage you to visit my website
www.scripturememorychallenge.org  The main feature is the New Testament One Year
Challenge where I hope, Lord willing, to soon have thousands of Christians
around the world memorizing one key verse from every chapter of the New
Testament in a year.  We also have HAKOTS - Hearts After Key Old Testament
Scripture - who are doing the same with the OT.  I would love any help any of
you could give me in spreading the word about the New Testament One Year
Challenge (new groups start every Sept and Jan 1st.) to those you know who might
be interested as well as those of you who have websites who would be willing to
link to www.scripturememorychallenge.org

Finally, I would like to encourage you to consider church Scripture memory.
I approached the pastor a year ago and he supported the idea.  He picks the
passage and we go at a very slow pace.  In 2004 we only learned 5 short passages
(Ex 34:5-7, 19:5-6, Rom 5:6-8, Ps 63:1-4, and Is 9:6-7)  At times it has been
frustrating.  After the initial novelty of the idea got 38 (out of about 120
church attenders) to learn the first passage, it dropped quickly with less than
20 having learned the last two.

To begin this new year, the pastor wanted to start with just ACTS 1:8.  I
thought that was pretty wimpy, but went along.  It has been truly wonderful to
see people struggle intensly with, but finally memorize that one verse.
We are at 48 who have quoted it.  I am praying that God will make the truth of
ACTS 1:8 real in our church  It has also been eye-opening to realize that many
in the church are convinced that they can not possibly memorize that one verse,
or at least it is not worth the enormous effort.  Can I encourage you to think
about starting a church wide Scripture memory program in your church as we help
our "Christian" culture know and appreciate what our God has to say.

In Christ, your fellow servant and Scripture enthusiast, Phil Walker

phil()scripturememorychallenge.org

PS  With help from a local pizza shop who let me have
$15 gift certificates at a reduced price, we got 11 church members to quote from
memory all 5 of the 2004 passages in one sitting.  Praise God!!


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 Things have been extremely busy around here as well. However, I am glad you are
energizing this list again as I have been needing some encouragement to move to
the next level.

Right now I have about 900 verses memorized and I review them each week.
However, I just don't seem to have room in my brain to memorize any more.
Any thoughts on how to move forward?

Also, how are folks using their memorized verses to meditate on scripture.
I'd be interested in some ideas.

Best Regards,

Lorry Schoenly
E-mail: lorryschoenly()earthlink.net

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Subject: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator


Greetings,

It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture
Memory Email Discussion List.  During the last several months I have been
tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work.  (My father
passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work).
So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.

Now however, I would like to get things going again ...

>  If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with  the words
> "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top  of the body of the
> message.

I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of
Memorizing Scripture.

How is everybody doing?

What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?

What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing
scripture had on your relationship with God and others?


Stephen Simpson
Bible Memory List Moderator

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I am an Awana leader & commander. I earned my citatation award by doing 14 books
several years ago & am working on my second one. Have memorized about 800 verses
so far Jodi

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To: biblememory()memoryverses.org
Subject: BibleMem: New member

Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join and have a
group of Christians with which to memorize large sections of the Bible. I am
homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want to teach them as well. Hope
to get to know you all soon!! Thanks, Michele




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Hi, Michele!
 
It is good to hear from you - I have memorized chapters, occasionally, and hope
to get back to memorizing larger portions of scritpture, but for the next 40
days ro so will be focusing on individual verses, or short portions.  Let me
know what you are working on - I need some ideas for larger portions for after
this period - I had been working on the 119 Psalm, but had to take a break when
my life became too hectic - I have the first few stanzas memorized, but will
have to review them.
 
I homeschooled our four children, and now that they have all grown up they have
each one thanked me for doing so.  When they started college they were amazed at
how easy it was for them, plus, there were a lot of problems they did not get
into that I think would have been more dificult to avoid had they been in the
public school.  Hang in there - I know there will be some tough days, but it
will be worth it!
 
Let me hear when you can,
Denna

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Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join and have a
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to get to know you all soon!! Thanks, Michele




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Michelle, one of the best ways to get young children excited about Scripture
memory is through Scripture songs.  If you prefer the NIV, some of the best are
"NIV Kids Club" and "GT and the Halo Express"  If you prefer the King James, you
can use "Thy Word Productions"  Steve Green also has two videos/cds out with
Scripture Memory songs using various translations.

Phil Walker

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> Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join
> and have a group of Christians with which to memorize large sections
> of the Bible. I am homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want
> to teach them as well. Hope to get to know you all soon!! Thanks,
> Michele
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Hi Stephen and others,

At the moment I really discovered the importance to know yourself. Both
spiritually and physically.

Memorization can really help in your walk with the Lord. But we have to be
careful to memorize the right texts. What is our argument to choose a text to
memorize? Is it to boost of our huge Bible knowledge so we can show off to
everyone that we 'even' know that verse? Or is it exactly the verse the Lord
wants us to know by heart? The verse that we struggle with and makes us feel we
have a long way to go with the Lord in this exact area.

I personally believe that there is no text in the Bible that is 'theory only'.
Even the genealogies were intended to indicate the right person to do a
ministry. There is no theoretical knowledge needed to be able to enter the
Kingdom. So if God is trying to change me, I should listen to the texts He wants
me to hear.

It is also important to know yourself physically. How is your brain functioning?
People tend to have preferences in memorization techniques; so let's use that.
People often use the phrase 'photographic memory' when they mean 'very good
memory'. But it is rather a description of how that brain prefers to remember
things: by pictures! People like that have bad luck when it comes to Bible
memorization; there are no pictures in most Bibles. They often have to create
their own mental pictures when they try to memorize the Bible.
But there is much more your brain can prefer to remember. Some prefer written
text. I personally am an audio person. At school I never did my homework because
I didn't need to (my teachers disagreed on that...).
If I visited the lessons, I listened to the explanation of the teacher and that
was sufficient for me to pass tests, including my exams. Even now I remember a
lot of what these teachers said to me almost 20 years ago. I should use that in
Bible memorization. So I mainly use audio bibles. There are plenty.

For Dutch speaking persons like me, there is http://www.voorleesbijbel.nl/ My
English speaking brothers and sisters may use http://www.audiotreasure.com/
Other languages, including Hebrew old testament for the original text
users: http://www.audioscripture.com/
And a greek new testament is found at
http://www.ccel.org/a/anonymous/gnt/home.html
Pronounced better, but (for now) incomplete greek and latin new
testament: http://www.greeklatinaudio.com/

This is what is freely available, ready to download and use. But there are also
good products available commercially, or you could ask libraries for the blind
if they have audio bibles available to seeing persons as well.
Synthetic speech can be a 'last resort' if your favorite translation is not
available...

OK, enough about audio bibles. What I try to say is that it is useful to
investigate how your memory works and use that. It can really be frustrating
otherwise.

Terry

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Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join and have a
group of Christians with which to memorize large sections of the Bible. I am
homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want to teach them as well. Hope
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I definately would like to be invovled with this list, however right now my
memorizing has been stagnating to a point.  God has been dealing with me the
last week or so on this, that I need to get back with the review and learning
new verses, so your mail came just in time to confirm what He has been saying.

 
I had been memorizing a verse a day for a period, but then life became hectic (I
became ill, my husband developed health problems, I begans taking
11 graduate hours while working full time, I am having to drive 800-1000 miles a
week, and just life in general).  I am starting tomorrow with a 40 day Lent
project - I do one each year - and will be focusing on praise and worship, and
plan on memorizing 40 new verses during this period.  I would like to ask for
prayer, that God give me the ability and keep me focused, not allowing me to be
distracted from this by all the other requirements of my life.

 
I am looking forward to hearing from others about what they are doing, how they
are accomplishing it, and the changes that have been made in their lives as a
result of hiding His word in their hearts.

 
Denna



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Greetings,

It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture
Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending
to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away,
a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work).
So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.

Now however, I would like to get things going again ...

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I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of
Memorizing Scripture.

How is everybody doing?

What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?

What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing
scripture had on your relationship with God and others?


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Dear Stephen:


The Lord has been working in my life, and I praise Him for it. For one thing, He
has given me a deep desire to memorize His words. I am memorizing books of the
Bible, and am in chapter 8 of Romans.

At times it seems too hard to be a Bible memory fanatic. I want to be an
encouragement to others interested in Bible memory, and hopefully, your ministry
will be a source of encouragement to me.

Please visit my site, www.PursuingLife.com, sometime. It's a discipleship site
devoted to Bible Memory enthusiasts. May Jesus Christ by praised!

Sincerely,
Lavern Gingerich



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Greetings,

It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture
Memory Email Discussion List.  During the last several months I have been
tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work.  (My father
passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work).
So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.

Now however, I would like to get things going again ...

>  If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with  the words
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I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of
Memorizing Scripture.

How is everybody doing?

What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?

What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing
scripture had on your relationship with God and others?


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To the members of the Bible Memory List,

The past few months have been busy for me with regards to bible memory.  I
recently (October) got my website up at http://www.word2life.com which is Bible
memory and Bible presentation centric.  Also I've determine to embark on a
challenging Bible memory task this year; that is, I've determined to memorize
Proverbs 10 - 31.  God has impressed upon me that I need to grow in wisdom and
what better way to gain wisdom than to memorize Proverbs!  I'm moving along at a
rate of about 2 verses a day and spend 10 to 12 hours a week on the project.  By
employing Supermemo and various mneumonic techiques I'm confident that the task
is doable and that the verses will be lodged in memory for life.

In Christ
David Baldwin



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Greetings,

It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture
Memory Email Discussion List.  During the last several months I have been
tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work.  (My father

passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work).
So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.

Now however, I would like to get things going again ...

 

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Memorizing Scripture.

How is everybody doing?

What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?

What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing
scripture had on your relationship with God and others?


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I also home-school and would love to be a part of this group.    I really look
forward to sharing with the people on this list in the word.  I love to memorize
scripture.  I really desire to get back into it and need motivation.  I have two
little ones and one on the way.  I'm trying to memorize Acts...it's been an
ongoing project that is taking way too long.  I know that it is ultimately in
the Lord's hands, but as I said, I do need encouragement and motivation, which
is why I joined this group.  I've memorized Philippians, which is a much smaller
book and it didn't take me near this long.  All I know is that memorizing puts
my mind on the things of God and changes my outlook completely.  As a busy
mother it is a wonderful way to be renewed daily in the word.  It also greatly
influences my dealings with others, especially my children.  Well, gotta run. 
Hope to hear from you all.

 
Love in Jesus

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Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join and have a
group of Christians with which to memorize large sections of the Bible. I am
homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want to teach them

as well. Hope to get to know you all soon!! Thanks, Michele




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Dear Friends,

Greetings from Leicester, UK!  I work with a Sunday School group for 5-7 year
olds, and am very keen to have the children memorising a verse a month in a
one-year cycle - so 12 verses altogether.  John 3:16, John 14:6 and Acts 1:8
already memorised (allegedly...) I would be very interested in members' views on
THE 12 verses to go for.  If (as I hope) this generates a fair bit of
correspondence, remember that any additional verse requires another to be
jettisoned!


With many thanks for your help and very best wishes,



Geoff

Dr Geoff Tennant
Mathematics Education Lecturer
School of Education
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New web site: www.scripturememorychallenge.org

Memorizing and Loving it

Dear memorizing friends,

Hi.  My name is Phil Walker.  I have been a member for a couple years now and
always enjoy reading how God is at work in your lives in the area of Scripture
memory.

My most recent memorized chapters are ISAIAH 53 (25 of us at Upton Lake
Christian School in Clinton Corners, NY memorized this as a school project) and
ISAIAH 6 (in joining one of my students who decided on his own to memorize
this.)  Both have long been on my "someday" list, and it was a thrill to get
them.  The majesty of God (6) and the glorious suffering of Christ (53) have
given me some wonderful things to meditate on.

I would like to encourage you to visit my website
www.scripturememorychallenge.org  The main feature is the New Testament One Year
Challenge where I hope, Lord willing, to soon have thousands of Christians
around the world memorizing one key verse from every chapter of the New
Testament in a year.  We also have HAKOTS - Hearts After Key Old Testament
Scripture - who are doing the same with the OT.  I would love any help any of
you could give me in spreading the word about the New Testament One Year
Challenge (new groups start every Sept and Jan 1st.) to those you know who might
be interested as well as those of you who have websites who would be willing to
link to www.scripturememorychallenge.org

Finally, I would like to encourage you to consider church Scripture memory.
I approached the pastor a year ago and he supported the idea.  He picks the
passage and we go at a very slow pace.  In 2004 we only learned 5 short passages
(Ex 34:5-7, 19:5-6, Rom 5:6-8, Ps 63:1-4, and Is 9:6-7)  At times it has been
frustrating.  After the initial novelty of the idea got 38 (out of about 120
church attenders) to learn the first passage, it dropped quickly with less than
20 having learned the last two.

To begin this new year, the pastor wanted to start with just ACTS 1:8.  I
thought that was pretty wimpy, but went along.  It has been truly wonderful to
see people struggle intensly with, but finally memorize that one verse.
We are at 48 who have quoted it.  I am praying that God will make the truth of
ACTS 1:8 real in our church  It has also been eye-opening to realize that many
in the church are convinced that they can not possibly memorize that one verse,
or at least it is not worth the enormous effort.  Can I encourage you to think
about starting a church wide Scripture memory program in your church as we help
our "Christian" culture know and appreciate what our God has to say.

In Christ, your fellow servant and Scripture enthusiast, Phil Walker

phil()scripturememorychallenge.org

PS  With help from a local pizza shop who let me have
$15 gift certificates at a reduced price, we got 11 church members to quote from
memory all 5 of the 2004 passages in one sitting.  Praise God!!


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Stephen,

I made a huge undertaking for me, but am about to claim success.  I have
memorized the book of Philippians.  Your programs have been especially helpful
with the "tricky" parts that I have to nail down.  I listen to the book of
Philippians usually twice a day: on the way to work and on the way back.  I
started it well over a year ago, but really didn't give it much effort until the
past couple of months.

Sue

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Yes, scripture songs are a great way to memorize Bible verses. Please visit
www.pursuinglife.com and go to "Links" for several links to free audio bibles
and some great Scripture songs sites.

Sincerely,
Lavern Gingerich
lavern()pursuinglife.com

www.pursuinglife.com
A discipleship website devoted to Bible memory.


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Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 4:43 PM
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Subject: BibleMem: Scripture songs

Michelle, one of the best ways to get young children excited about Scripture
memory is through Scripture songs.  If you prefer the NIV, some of the best are
"NIV Kids Club" and "GT and the Halo Express"  If you prefer the King James, you
can use "Thy Word Productions"  Steve Green also has two videos/cds out with
Scripture Memory songs using various translations.

Phil Walker

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Ok, I am intimidated, LOL!  I am interested in memorizing and have a few good
tips now.  Actually just went and ordered a Steve Green CD, thanks for that tip!
 I know a few songs from my childhood....1 John 4:7-8 was a song my Mom and I
would do at nursing homes.

I have a terrible memory, so it is imposing to me to 'memorize'.  And then just
'finding' one that I want to keep.  My husband got me a verse-a-day calendar and
I have been looking at those.  Did find one from yesterday, took it to work and
hung it in my cubicle, and of course could NOT tell you what it is now.

I have the Bible on tape also.  Trying to get thru the Bible, as I have never
done that.  Up to 2 Chronicles 30 right now.  I am back to church after 25yrs of
not going, so that is a blessing in itself!!!!  Purpose Driven Life can be given
the credit for 'getting' me to go find a church, and I have been going a year in
March!!!  I am 40, and also have a 3yr daughter at home and a 20yr old son at
college.  Work 2 part-time jobs and working towards a degree in court reporting,
so very busy here.  Would enjoy thoughts on 'where' is a good place to start?
Thank you!

Rhoda

"Live one day at a time.
While you can plan for tomorrow,
you can't live it until it arrives.
Most people spend so much time
regretting the past and worrying
about the future, they have no time to
enjoy today!"
Rick Warren

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Subject: BibleMem: Re: Scripture songs


I was just going to say, our speaker last night said he met a Presbyterian
family last year who only sing Psalms. As a result, their children, not yet
grown, have over half the psalms memorized!

I started memorizing 1 Peter probably over a year ago - when I got almost to the
end of the 2nd chapter I let various distractions get in the way, and have not
soldiered through. Aside from an obvious enemy who would discourage the process,
and my own weak flesh, I wonder if it is because I chose it without enough
prayer and should have picked another book. I'm not so sure of my "hearing" at
times, how have others known for sure what to memorize?
Grace,
Deborah


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It is so wonderful to be part of this group!  I have longed for a place where I
could share with others who are of like minds regarding scripture memory. 
Seeing all of the e-mails begin to filter through, has been such a comfort to me
recently.  It is motivating, to say the least.  God knew I needed it! 

I usually don't share with others regarding how much or what portions of the
bible I have memorized, because I absolutely do not want to sound boastful. I
love the word with all my heart and am thankful for the ability to memorize. 
However, I am truly glad that I can feel comfortable here to share what is on my
heart and what I'm memorizing.  Has anyone memorized the book of Acts?  I
started it a couple of years ago, but have not been able to stay the course.  I
am so eager to get to the chapter about Stephen's testimony.  However, I have
had a lot of trouble staying motivated with memorization since becoming the
mother of two, with one on the way, and having some health problems as well. 
What are some good suggestions to sticking with it?  I do pray about it and the
desire is there.  I have memorized large portions of scripture in the past, but
I feel somewhat discouraged about not being able to go forward with Acts. I've
made it to about chapter 5, but will need some review.  I think just being a
part of this group will help...I know it will.  However, I would love any
suggestions or just for someone to share their own exp. with struggling to stay
at it and what God showed them.

 
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I tried doing a Bible Memory Group in our church.  At first, there were about 10
people "seriously" interested.  Pretty good for a congregation with membership
just over a hundred.  needless to say, only 1-3 and people showed up for our
monthly meetings, seven meetings total.  Actually, at the last meeting it was
just me sitting there for an hour.  It is really pitiful, the lack of diligence
in our culture to do what we know we ought to do and even what we want to do.  I
announced the end of the group as a result of inadequate attendance and
participation.

Even the people that showed up would have not memorized even one thing, and what
kind of meeting can be made out of that?

Glad to have found a community on the web that can be some real community and
accountability for me on this.

-Meg

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Sent: Feb 14, 2005 2:32 PM
To: biblememory()memoryverses.org
Subject: BibleMem: Scripture memory

New web site: www.scripturememorychallenge.org

Memorizing and Loving it

Dear memorizing friends,

Hi.  My name is Phil Walker.  I have been a member for a couple years now and
always enjoy reading how God is at work in your lives in the area of Scripture
memory.

My most recent memorized chapters are ISAIAH 53 (25 of us at Upton Lake
Christian School in Clinton Corners, NY memorized this as a school project) and
ISAIAH 6 (in joining one of my students who decided on his own to memorize
this.)  Both have long been on my "someday" list, and it was a thrill to get
them.  The majesty of God (6) and the glorious suffering of Christ (53) have
given me some wonderful things to meditate on.

I would like to encourage you to visit my website
www.scripturememorychallenge.org  The main feature is the New Testament One Year
Challenge where I hope, Lord willing, to soon have thousands of Christians
around the world memorizing one key verse from every chapter of the New
Testament in a year.  We also have HAKOTS - Hearts After Key Old Testament
Scripture - who are doing the same with the OT.  I would love any help any of
you could give me in spreading the word about the New Testament One Year
Challenge (new groups start every Sept and Jan 1st.) to those you know who might
be interested as well as those of you who have websites who would be willing to
link to www.scripturememorychallenge.org

Finally, I would like to encourage you to consider church Scripture memory.
I approached the pastor a year ago and he supported the idea.  He picks the
passage and we go at a very slow pace.  In 2004 we only learned 5 short passages
(Ex 34:5-7, 19:5-6, Rom 5:6-8, Ps 63:1-4, and Is 9:6-7)  At times it has been
frustrating.  After the initial novelty of the idea got 38 (out of about 120
church attenders) to learn the first passage, it dropped quickly with less than
20 having learned the last two.

To begin this new year, the pastor wanted to start with just ACTS 1:8.  I
thought that was pretty wimpy, but went along.  It has been truly wonderful to
see people struggle intensly with, but finally memorize that one verse.
We are at 48 who have quoted it.  I am praying that God will make the truth of
ACTS 1:8 real in our church  It has also been eye-opening to realize that many
in the church are convinced that they can not possibly memorize that one verse,
or at least it is not worth the enormous effort.  Can I encourage you to think
about starting a church wide Scripture memory program in your church as we help
our "Christian" culture know and appreciate what our God has to say.

In Christ, your fellow servant and Scripture enthusiast, Phil Walker

phil()scripturememorychallenge.org

PS  With help from a local pizza shop who let me have
$15 gift certificates at a reduced price, we got 11 church members to quote from
memory all 5 of the 2004 passages in one sitting.  Praise God!!


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I have three questions:

1. Is this group going to be memorizing verses together or are we on our own as
to what we'll be memorizing? I'd love to have a group where we can encourage
each other as we're memorizing together.

2. For my two young children, does anyone know of a good program for them
(musically maybe?) that's in NIV?

3. Has anyone tried the Bible on DVD? I've seen it on tv and my husband and I
have thought of ordering it. Any good reviews of such a program?

Thanks and I'm so excited to be here! Michele




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Denna your honesty is so refreshing!  I too am a full time graduate student and
struggle with scripture memorization. I will be in prayer for you for victory in
that area. Please do the same for me.  My daughter and I are on a 40-day
renewing of the mind with scriptures time of consecration which began
yesterday  The desire to be faithful in scripture memory is half the battle. 
Maybe during your 40-day consecration time you might wish to focus on scripture
that will allow you to renew your mind in specific areas.

Blessings
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Hi dear all

I was wondering what happened with the memoryverses.org as there has been a long
silence. am a pastor from india, but now working in a ministry in USA where part
of my family moved in recently- when i said part - i still have my elder and
minor children still in india.  i found one of the best way to remember verses
is to use one verse daily in any communication you make to other christians..
letters or e-mails.. i remember when i was a small boy, my eldest brother who
was serving in indian army used to write letters whome
- of course these letters comes once in a month- and all letters have one verse
on the top. how do you all likes this idea?? and this will make us memorise the
verse as well as the person on the other side?

pls share your views, and my e-mail in this part of the world is
- equipindia()sbcglobal.net -

Blessings.


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> I am an Awana leader & commander. I earned my citatation award by
> doing 14 books several years ago & am working on my second one. Have
> memorized about 800 verses so far Jodi
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Pastor Jeff, it was good to hear about your interest in Revelation and in mixing
theater with Scripture memory.  Have you seen or heard of Marquis Laughlin.
He does a dramatic presentation of Revelation word for word in the NIV.  He is
based in Orlando, Florida with Sola Scriptura and also travels around the
country.

In Christ, Phil Walker

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> I am very excited about joining a group of like minded Christians
> looking to memorize large sections of the Bible and relying on each
> other for ideas, support and wisdom.  I'm a Pastor who also has a full
> time job in transportation management.  I have a deep love for
> prophecy and eschatology...end time events.  I'm working on memorizing
> scripture related to the prophecies that Christ has fulfilled and to
> memorize the book of Revelation.  I have a long background in theatre
> so I employ theatrical memorizing techniques when memorizing large
> blocks of scripture...kind of like a one man play and developing
> different characters for each person speaking or being spoken about.
> I do need any suggestions as this tends to be time consuming (though
> great fun!) and I'd love to learn how to memorize scripture using
> techniques that you speak about....
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> grow closer to God....
> In Christ;
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> to commit to memory large portions of Scripture.  My ultimate goal, is
> to memorize as much of the Bible as I can, and to take as many people
> along with me as I can.
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> scripture.
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> the memorization and review of scripture. This includes everything
> from verse cards to mnemonic devices.  If your goal is to memorize
> many  chapters of scripture, then the organization and presentation of
> the material is critical. These tools and methods must be developed.
>
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> allow for what we want to accomplish, while still maintaining balance
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>
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I was just going to say, our speaker last night said he met a Presbyterian
family last year who only sing Psalms. As a result, their children, not yet
grown, have over half the psalms memorized!

I started memorizing 1 Peter probably over a year ago - when I got almost to the
end of the 2nd chapter I let various distractions get in the way, and have not
soldiered through. Aside from an obvious enemy who would discourage the process,
and my own weak flesh, I wonder if it is because I chose it without enough
prayer and should have picked another book. I'm not so sure of my "hearing" at
times, how have others known for sure what to memorize?
Grace,
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Hello!!

I am very excited about joining a group of like minded Christians looking to
memorize large sections of the Bible and relying on each other for ideas,
support and wisdom.  I'm a Pastor who also has a full time job in transportation
management.  I have a deep love for prophecy and eschatology...end time events.
I'm working on memorizing scripture related to the prophecies that Christ has
fulfilled and to memorize the book of Revelation.  I have a long background in
theatre so I employ theatrical memorizing techniques when memorizing large
blocks of scripture...kind of like a one man play and developing different
characters for each person speaking or being spoken about.  I do need any
suggestions as this tends to be time consuming (though great fun!) and I'd love
to learn how to memorize scripture using techniques that you speak about....

I look forward to the correspondence and seeing everyone continue to grow closer
to God....
In Christ;
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Psalm 119:9-11


The Bible memory list is designed to encourage friendly discussion on the
topic of  Bible memorization.   Please post a message to the list to
introduce yourself. Messages to the list should be sent to:

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If you read through the scriptures, you will easily see that knowledge of the
word of God is vital to a close relationship with God.  Of course, head
knowledge alone is not good  enough.  It must be understood and applied to your
life.  Meditation, prayer and Bible study play a key role in understanding.
Clearly, if you have memorized portions of the word of God, it makes meditation
much more profitable. Also, all who have grown to a certain level of maturity
must teach the things they know to others. For a brief article on why  scripture
 memorization is important to the growth of a Christian, you may want to read my
article at http://www.memoryverses.org/why.htm.

But, to master this discipline is very difficult ...

Purposes of this list:

    - To collect together a group of people who have a desire to make the
memorization of scripture and meditation on what has been memorized a
significant portion of their lives.

    - I would like to bring together a group of people whose goal is to commit
to memory large portions of Scripture.  My ultimate goal,  is to memorize as
much of the Bible as I can, and to take as many people along with me as I can.

    - These people can share ideas, encourage one another, set goals and be
accountable to one another for progress and be praying for one another.

    - To discuss how we can help others, such as our children, Sunday School
class and Church friends, etc., learn to love memorizing scripture.

     - To discuss various tools, props and aids which are effective in the
memorization and review of scripture. This includes everything from verse cards
to mnemonic devices.  If your goal is to memorize many  chapters of scripture,
then the organization and presentation of  the material is critical. These tools
and methods must be developed.

    - To discuss how time and other activities can be scheduled to allow for
what we want to accomplish, while still maintaining balance in all other areas
of life.

    - To share the blessings of knowing the word of God.

    - Memorization of information is not enough. It must be learned permanently,
it must be understood and applied. Review, study and meditation is a key
component of any scripture memory system.  Discussion of these topics is
welcome.


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Dear group,
 
Hello!  My computer crashed and I lost David Baldwin's excellent video example
on the internet for using Supermemo to help review scripture.  What is the URL
for that David?  Supermemo is a great program.  David, do you have any supermemo
collections related to Scripture or Christian things that you would like to
share?  My email is HYPERLINK "mailto:gandk14()molalla.net"gandk14()molalla.net

 
I took all the chapters that I have memorized over the years and recited them
for 100 days in a row (mostly).  I got this idea from
http://www.fbcdurham.org/writings/Scripmem.htm  Also, Stephen (our
moderator) suggests the hundred day idea too.  Now I review them every week or
two.  The 100 days idea really helped cement them in my mind.  I timed myself
first to see how long it would take to recite one chapter.  To say a chapter it
takes about 3 minutes.  I can fit that easily in my day:either all at once (on
my walk) or in a few minutes spread throughout the day. .  I had about 40-45
minutes to do for all the scriptures I had memorized.  Since I need exercise
anyway, I did this on my walk.  This is a very uplifting walk.  My family is
glad I memorize scripture.  They say I am a better mom for it.  Since I feel
those scriptures are secure I am starting on Romans 6.  I like memorizing books
and chapters better than individual verses.  I found if I make memorizing and
reviewing a priority, with the Lord's help, it happens.  I have a large family
and I homeschool, so no excuses out there!!  With my children we are memorizing
James.  We have the first chapter down.  It took a year (we weren't as
consistent)  Even my 4 year old can say it!  Now we are starting on chapter 2.

 
The best book I have found is "His Word in my Heart" by Janet Pope. Very
practical and insipiring. 

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Stephen,

I made a huge undertaking for me, but am about to claim success.  I have
memorized the book of Philippians.  Your programs have been especially helpful
with the "tricky" parts that I have to nail down.  I listen to the book of
Philippians usually twice a day: on the way to work and on the way back.  I
started it well over a year ago, but really didn't give it much effort until the
past couple of months.

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Yes, scripture songs are a great way to memorize Bible verses. Please visit
www.pursuinglife.com and go to "Links" for several links to free audio bibles
and some great Scripture songs sites.

Sincerely,
Lavern Gingerich
lavern()pursuinglife.com

www.pursuinglife.com
A discipleship website devoted to Bible memory.


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Michelle, one of the best ways to get young children excited about Scripture
memory is through Scripture songs.  If you prefer the NIV, some of the best are
"NIV Kids Club" and "GT and the Halo Express"  If you prefer the King James, you
can use "Thy Word Productions"  Steve Green also has two videos/cds out with
Scripture Memory songs using various translations.

Phil Walker

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Ok, I am intimidated, LOL!  I am interested in memorizing and have a few good
tips now.  Actually just went and ordered a Steve Green CD, thanks for that tip!
 I know a few songs from my childhood....1 John 4:7-8 was a song my Mom and I
would do at nursing homes.

I have a terrible memory, so it is imposing to me to 'memorize'.  And then just
'finding' one that I want to keep.  My husband got me a verse-a-day calendar and
I have been looking at those.  Did find one from yesterday, took it to work and
hung it in my cubicle, and of course could NOT tell you what it is now.

I have the Bible on tape also.  Trying to get thru the Bible, as I have never
done that.  Up to 2 Chronicles 30 right now.  I am back to church after 25yrs of
not going, so that is a blessing in itself!!!!  Purpose Driven Life can be given
the credit for 'getting' me to go find a church, and I have been going a year in
March!!!  I am 40, and also have a 3yr daughter at home and a 20yr old son at
college.  Work 2 part-time jobs and working towards a degree in court reporting,
so very busy here.  Would enjoy thoughts on 'where' is a good place to start?
Thank you!

Rhoda

"Live one day at a time.
While you can plan for tomorrow,
you can't live it until it arrives.
Most people spend so much time
regretting the past and worrying
about the future, they have no time to
enjoy today!"
Rick Warren

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I was just going to say, our speaker last night said he met a Presbyterian
family last year who only sing Psalms. As a result, their children, not yet
grown, have over half the psalms memorized!

I started memorizing 1 Peter probably over a year ago - when I got almost to the
end of the 2nd chapter I let various distractions get in the way, and have not
soldiered through. Aside from an obvious enemy who would discourage the process,
and my own weak flesh, I wonder if it is because I chose it without enough
prayer and should have picked another book. I'm not so sure of my "hearing" at
times, how have others known for sure what to memorize?
Grace,
Deborah


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It is so wonderful to be part of this group!  I have longed for a place where I
could share with others who are of like minds regarding scripture memory. 
Seeing all of the e-mails begin to filter through, has been such a comfort to me
recently.  It is motivating, to say the least.  God knew I needed it! 

I usually don't share with others regarding how much or what portions of the
bible I have memorized, because I absolutely do not want to sound boastful. I
love the word with all my heart and am thankful for the ability to memorize. 
However, I am truly glad that I can feel comfortable here to share what is on my
heart and what I'm memorizing.  Has anyone memorized the book of Acts?  I
started it a couple of years ago, but have not been able to stay the course.  I
am so eager to get to the chapter about Stephen's testimony.  However, I have
had a lot of trouble staying motivated with memorization since becoming the
mother of two, with one on the way, and having some health problems as well. 
What are some good suggestions to sticking with it?  I do pray about it and the
desire is there.  I have memorized large portions of scripture in the past, but
I feel somewhat discouraged about not being able to go forward with Acts. I've
made it to about chapter 5, but will need some review.  I think just being a
part of this group will help...I know it will.  However, I would love any
suggestions or just for someone to share their own exp. with struggling to stay
at it and what God showed them.

 
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I tried doing a Bible Memory Group in our church.  At first, there were about 10
people "seriously" interested.  Pretty good for a congregation with membership
just over a hundred.  needless to say, only 1-3 and people showed up for our
monthly meetings, seven meetings total.  Actually, at the last meeting it was
just me sitting there for an hour.  It is really pitiful, the lack of diligence
in our culture to do what we know we ought to do and even what we want to do.  I
announced the end of the group as a result of inadequate attendance and
participation.

Even the people that showed up would have not memorized even one thing, and what
kind of meeting can be made out of that?

Glad to have found a community on the web that can be some real community and
accountability for me on this.

-Meg

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New web site: www.scripturememorychallenge.org

Memorizing and Loving it

Dear memorizing friends,

Hi.  My name is Phil Walker.  I have been a member for a couple years now and
always enjoy reading how God is at work in your lives in the area of Scripture
memory.

My most recent memorized chapters are ISAIAH 53 (25 of us at Upton Lake
Christian School in Clinton Corners, NY memorized this as a school project) and
ISAIAH 6 (in joining one of my students who decided on his own to memorize
this.)  Both have long been on my "someday" list, and it was a thrill to get
them.  The majesty of God (6) and the glorious suffering of Christ (53) have
given me some wonderful things to meditate on.

I would like to encourage you to visit my website
www.scripturememorychallenge.org  The main feature is the New Testament One Year
Challenge where I hope, Lord willing, to soon have thousands of Christians
around the world memorizing one key verse from every chapter of the New
Testament in a year.  We also have HAKOTS - Hearts After Key Old Testament
Scripture - who are doing the same with the OT.  I would love any help any of
you could give me in spreading the word about the New Testament One Year
Challenge (new groups start every Sept and Jan 1st.) to those you know who might
be interested as well as those of you who have websites who would be willing to
link to www.scripturememorychallenge.org

Finally, I would like to encourage you to consider church Scripture memory.
I approached the pastor a year ago and he supported the idea.  He picks the
passage and we go at a very slow pace.  In 2004 we only learned 5 short passages
(Ex 34:5-7, 19:5-6, Rom 5:6-8, Ps 63:1-4, and Is 9:6-7)  At times it has been
frustrating.  After the initial novelty of the idea got 38 (out of about 120
church attenders) to learn the first passage, it dropped quickly with less than
20 having learned the last two.

To begin this new year, the pastor wanted to start with just ACTS 1:8.  I
thought that was pretty wimpy, but went along.  It has been truly wonderful to
see people struggle intensly with, but finally memorize that one verse.
We are at 48 who have quoted it.  I am praying that God will make the truth of
ACTS 1:8 real in our church  It has also been eye-opening to realize that many
in the church are convinced that they can not possibly memorize that one verse,
or at least it is not worth the enormous effort.  Can I encourage you to think
about starting a church wide Scripture memory program in your church as we help
our "Christian" culture know and appreciate what our God has to say.

In Christ, your fellow servant and Scripture enthusiast, Phil Walker

phil()scripturememorychallenge.org

PS  With help from a local pizza shop who let me have
$15 gift certificates at a reduced price, we got 11 church members to quote from
memory all 5 of the 2004 passages in one sitting.  Praise God!!


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I have three questions:

1. Is this group going to be memorizing verses together or are we on our own as
to what we'll be memorizing? I'd love to have a group where we can encourage
each other as we're memorizing together.

2. For my two young children, does anyone know of a good program for them
(musically maybe?) that's in NIV?

3. Has anyone tried the Bible on DVD? I've seen it on tv and my husband and I
have thought of ordering it. Any good reviews of such a program?

Thanks and I'm so excited to be here! Michele




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Denna your honesty is so refreshing!  I too am a full time graduate student and
struggle with scripture memorization. I will be in prayer for you for victory in
that area. Please do the same for me.  My daughter and I are on a 40-day
renewing of the mind with scriptures time of consecration which began
yesterday  The desire to be faithful in scripture memory is half the battle. 
Maybe during your 40-day consecration time you might wish to focus on scripture
that will allow you to renew your mind in specific areas.

Blessings
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Hi dear all

I was wondering what happened with the memoryverses.org as there has been a long
silence. am a pastor from india, but now working in a ministry in USA where part
of my family moved in recently- when i said part - i still have my elder and
minor children still in india.  i found one of the best way to remember verses
is to use one verse daily in any communication you make to other christians..
letters or e-mails.. i remember when i was a small boy, my eldest brother who
was serving in indian army used to write letters whome
- of course these letters comes once in a month- and all letters have one verse
on the top. how do you all likes this idea?? and this will make us memorise the
verse as well as the person on the other side?

pls share your views, and my e-mail in this part of the world is
- equipindia()sbcglobal.net -

Blessings.


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> I am an Awana leader & commander. I earned my citatation award by
> doing 14 books several years ago & am working on my second one. Have
> memorized about 800 verses so far Jodi
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Pastor Jeff, it was good to hear about your interest in Revelation and in mixing
theater with Scripture memory.  Have you seen or heard of Marquis Laughlin.
He does a dramatic presentation of Revelation word for word in the NIV.  He is
based in Orlando, Florida with Sola Scriptura and also travels around the
country.

In Christ, Phil Walker

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> I am very excited about joining a group of like minded Christians
> looking to memorize large sections of the Bible and relying on each
> other for ideas, support and wisdom.  I'm a Pastor who also has a full
> time job in transportation management.  I have a deep love for
> prophecy and eschatology...end time events.  I'm working on memorizing
> scripture related to the prophecies that Christ has fulfilled and to
> memorize the book of Revelation.  I have a long background in theatre
> so I employ theatrical memorizing techniques when memorizing large
> blocks of scripture...kind of like a one man play and developing
> different characters for each person speaking or being spoken about.
> I do need any suggestions as this tends to be time consuming (though
> great fun!) and I'd love to learn how to memorize scripture using
> techniques that you speak about....
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> I look forward to the correspondence and seeing everyone continue to
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> In Christ;
> Pastor Jeff
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> course, head knowledge alone is not good  enough.  It must be
> understood and applied to your life.  Meditation, prayer and Bible
> study play a key role in understanding.  Clearly, if you have
> memorized portions of the word of God, it makes meditation much more
> profitable. Also, all who have grown to a certain level of maturity
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>     - To collect together a group of people who have a desire to make
> the memorization of scripture and meditation on what has been
> memorized a significant portion of their lives.
>
>     - I would like to bring together a group of people whose goal is
> to commit to memory large portions of Scripture.  My ultimate goal, is
> to memorize as much of the Bible as I can, and to take as many people
> along with me as I can.
>
>     - These people can share ideas, encourage one another, set goals
> and be accountable to one another for progress and be praying for one
> another.
>
>     - To discuss how we can help others, such as our children, Sunday
> School class and Church friends, etc., learn to love memorizing
> scripture.
>
>      - To discuss various tools, props and aids which are effective in
> the memorization and review of scripture. This includes everything
> from verse cards to mnemonic devices.  If your goal is to memorize
> many  chapters of scripture, then the organization and presentation of
> the material is critical. These tools and methods must be developed.
>
>     - To discuss how time and other activities can be scheduled to
> allow for what we want to accomplish, while still maintaining balance
> in all other areas of life.
>
>     - To share the blessings of knowing the word of God.
>
>     - Memorization of information is not enough. It must be learned
> permanently, it must be understood and applied.
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> is a key  component of any scripture memory system.
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I was just going to say, our speaker last night said he met a Presbyterian
family last year who only sing Psalms. As a result, their children, not yet
grown, have over half the psalms memorized!

I started memorizing 1 Peter probably over a year ago - when I got almost to the
end of the 2nd chapter I let various distractions get in the way, and have not
soldiered through. Aside from an obvious enemy who would discourage the process,
and my own weak flesh, I wonder if it is because I chose it without enough
prayer and should have picked another book. I'm not so sure of my "hearing" at
times, how have others known for sure what to memorize?
Grace,
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Hello!!

I am very excited about joining a group of like minded Christians looking to
memorize large sections of the Bible and relying on each other for ideas,
support and wisdom.  I'm a Pastor who also has a full time job in transportation
management.  I have a deep love for prophecy and eschatology...end time events.
I'm working on memorizing scripture related to the prophecies that Christ has
fulfilled and to memorize the book of Revelation.  I have a long background in
theatre so I employ theatrical memorizing techniques when memorizing large
blocks of scripture...kind of like a one man play and developing different
characters for each person speaking or being spoken about.  I do need any
suggestions as this tends to be time consuming (though great fun!) and I'd love
to learn how to memorize scripture using techniques that you speak about....

I look forward to the correspondence and seeing everyone continue to grow closer
to God....
In Christ;
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seek you with all my heart;  do not let me stray from your commands. I have
hidden  your word in my heart    that I might not sin against you."
Psalm 119:9-11


The Bible memory list is designed to encourage friendly discussion on the
topic of  Bible memorization.   Please post a message to the list to
introduce yourself. Messages to the list should be sent to:

        biblememory()memoryverses.org

If you read through the scriptures, you will easily see that knowledge of the
word of God is vital to a close relationship with God.  Of course, head
knowledge alone is not good  enough.  It must be understood and applied to your
life.  Meditation, prayer and Bible study play a key role in understanding.
Clearly, if you have memorized portions of the word of God, it makes meditation
much more profitable. Also, all who have grown to a certain level of maturity
must teach the things they know to others. For a brief article on why  scripture
 memorization is important to the growth of a Christian, you may want to read my
article at http://www.memoryverses.org/why.htm.

But, to master this discipline is very difficult ...

Purposes of this list:

    - To collect together a group of people who have a desire to make the
memorization of scripture and meditation on what has been memorized a
significant portion of their lives.

    - I would like to bring together a group of people whose goal is to commit
to memory large portions of Scripture.  My ultimate goal,  is to memorize as
much of the Bible as I can, and to take as many people along with me as I can.

    - These people can share ideas, encourage one another, set goals and be
accountable to one another for progress and be praying for one another.

    - To discuss how we can help others, such as our children, Sunday School
class and Church friends, etc., learn to love memorizing scripture.

     - To discuss various tools, props and aids which are effective in the
memorization and review of scripture. This includes everything from verse cards
to mnemonic devices.  If your goal is to memorize many  chapters of scripture,
then the organization and presentation of  the material is critical. These tools
and methods must be developed.

    - To discuss how time and other activities can be scheduled to allow for
what we want to accomplish, while still maintaining balance in all other areas
of life.

    - To share the blessings of knowing the word of God.

    - Memorization of information is not enough. It must be learned permanently,
it must be understood and applied. Review, study and meditation is a key
component of any scripture memory system.  Discussion of these topics is
welcome.


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Dear group,
 
Hello!  My computer crashed and I lost David Baldwin's excellent video example
on the internet for using Supermemo to help review scripture.  What is the URL
for that David?  Supermemo is a great program.  David, do you have any supermemo
collections related to Scripture or Christian things that you would like to
share?  My email is HYPERLINK "mailto:gandk14()molalla.net"gandk14()molalla.net

 
I took all the chapters that I have memorized over the years and recited them
for 100 days in a row (mostly).  I got this idea from
http://www.fbcdurham.org/writings/Scripmem.htm  Also, Stephen (our
moderator) suggests the hundred day idea too.  Now I review them every week or
two.  The 100 days idea really helped cement them in my mind.  I timed myself
first to see how long it would take to recite one chapter.  To say a chapter it
takes about 3 minutes.  I can fit that easily in my day:either all at once (on
my walk) or in a few minutes spread throughout the day. .  I had about 40-45
minutes to do for all the scriptures I had memorized.  Since I need exercise
anyway, I did this on my walk.  This is a very uplifting walk.  My family is
glad I memorize scripture.  They say I am a better mom for it.  Since I feel
those scriptures are secure I am starting on Romans 6.  I like memorizing books
and chapters better than individual verses.  I found if I make memorizing and
reviewing a priority, with the Lord's help, it happens.  I have a large family
and I homeschool, so no excuses out there!!  With my children we are memorizing
James.  We have the first chapter down.  It took a year (we weren't as
consistent)  Even my 4 year old can say it!  Now we are starting on chapter 2.

 
The best book I have found is "His Word in my Heart" by Janet Pope. Very
practical and insipiring. 

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To all,

Accountability would be very helpful to me as I pursue God's Word.  There are
some in my church and elsewhere with whom I check in from time to time, but as I
could certainly use more support I'm going to go out on a limb here and commit
myself to accountability to this group.  Currently I'm working on Proverbs 10-31
and would like to complete the project by year's end.  I just started in on
chapter 12 yesterday and should be completed by February 28th.  I'll report in
at month's end.  (The mere act of writing this email is already helping me to
resolve that that report will be a good one!)

In Christ,


David Baldwin
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I am attempting my first full book of the Bible.  I have chosen Philippians. 
Does anyone have anything that has especially helped them with that book?
 
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Meg,


I note that you wrote the below in response to Phil Walker's words.  Let me just
say that Phil could be of immense encouragement to you as well as provide
excellent advice.  What he provides on his website,
http://scripturememorychallenge.org is very much what he applies in churches,
schools and organizations with which he works.  Phil invited me to dramatically
present Scripture to several churches and schools in New York last October.  For
three days we went at breakneck speed all around the Hudson Valley area
presenting and speaking about Scripture memory.  I can't tell you how impressed
I was at the work he's doing in encouraging believers to hide God's word in
their hearts and the absolute commitment with which he approaches that task. 

--

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:david()word2life.com

HYPERLINK "http://www.word2life.com"www.word2life.com
Dramatically Presenting the Bible





Bible Memory List wrote:

I tried doing a Bible Memory Group in our church.  At first, there were
about 10 people "seriously" interested.  Pretty good for a congregation with

membership just over a hundred.  needless to say, only 1-3 and people showed

up for our monthly meetings, seven meetings total.  Actually, at the last
meeting it was just me sitting there for an hour.  It is really pitiful, the

lack of diligence in our culture to do what we know we ought to do and even
what we want to do.  I announced the end of the group as a result of
inadequate attendance and participation.

Even the people that showed up would have not memorized even one thing, and
what kind of meeting can be made out of that?

Glad to have found a community on the web that can be some real community
and accountability for me on this.

-Meg

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Sent: Feb 14, 2005 2:32 PM
To: HYPERLINK
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Subject: BibleMem: Scripture memory

New web site: HYPERLINK
"http://www.scripturememorychallenge.org"www.scripturememorychallenge.org

Memorizing and Loving it

Dear memorizing friends,

Hi.  My name is Phil Walker.  I have been a member for a couple years now
and always enjoy reading how God is at work in your lives in the area of
Scripture memory.

My most recent memorized chapters are ISAIAH 53 (25 of us at Upton Lake
Christian School in Clinton Corners, NY memorized this as a school project)
and ISAIAH 6 (in joining one of my students who decided on his own to
memorize this.)  Both have long been on my "someday" list, and it was a
thrill to get them.  The majesty of God (6) and the glorious suffering of
Christ (53) have given me some wonderful things to meditate on.

I would like to encourage you to visit my website
HYPERLINK
"http://www.scripturememorychallenge.org"www.scripturememorychallenge.org 
The main feature is the New Testament One

Year Challenge where I hope, Lord willing, to soon have thousands of
Christians around the world memorizing one key verse from every chapter of
the New Testament in a year.  We also have HAKOTS - Hearts After Key Old
Testament Scripture - who are doing the same with the OT.  I would love any
help any of you could give me in spreading the word about the New Testament
One Year Challenge (new groups start every Sept and Jan 1st.) to those you
know who might be interested as well as those of you who have websites who
would be willing to link to HYPERLINK
"http://www.scripturememorychallenge.org"www.scripturememorychallenge.org

Finally, I would like to encourage you to consider church Scripture memory.
I approached the pastor a year ago and he supported the idea.  He picks the
passage and we go at a very slow pace.  In 2004 we only learned 5 short
passages (Ex 34:5-7, 19:5-6, Rom 5:6-8, Ps 63:1-4, and Is 9:6-7)  At times
it has been frustrating.  After the initial novelty of the idea got 38 (out
of about 120 church attenders) to learn the first passage, it dropped
quickly with less than 20 having learned the last two.

To begin this new year, the pastor wanted to start with just ACTS 1:8.  I
thought that was pretty wimpy, but went along.  It has been truly wonderful
to see people struggle intensly with, but finally memorize that one verse.
We are at 48 who have quoted it.  I am praying that God will make the truth
of ACTS 1:8 real in our church  It has also been eye-opening to realize that

many in the church are convinced that they can not possibly memorize that
one verse, or at least it is not worth the enormous effort.  Can I encourage

you to think about starting a church wide Scripture memory program in your
church as we help our "Christian" culture know and appreciate what our God
has to say.

In Christ, your fellow servant and Scripture enthusiast, Phil Walker 

HYPERLINK
"mailto:phil()scripturememorychallenge.org"phil()scripturememorychallenge.org

PS  With help from a local pizza shop who let me have
$15 gift certificates at a reduced price, we got 11 church members to quote
from memory all 5 of the 2004 passages in one sitting.  Praise God!!


 



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The below reads just like my story!  I too started in on memorizing Acts, got to
chapter five, and fizzeled out.  Perhaps one day I will pick it up again and
finish the project, but not for now. I dropped the project because it became
evident to me that Acts was simply not the place for me to be focusing my time
and effort.  The Lord has impressed upon me more and more my need to get wisdom
and thus my focus is now on memorizing wisdom literature.  In that vein I've
thus far memorized Ecclesiasties, Proverbs
1-9 and am currently working on Proverbs 10 - 31.  As I work on memorizing
wisdom literature my heart is filled with joy for it seems that I'm focusing on
exactly the Scripture the Lord wants me to learn.  I encourage each of you not
only to memorize Scripture but to prayfully consider where in Scripture God
would have you focus.



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It is so wonderful to be part of this group!  I have longed for a place
where I could share with others who are of like minds regarding scripture
memory.  Seeing all of the e-mails begin to filter through, has been such a
comfort to me recently.  It is motivating, to say the least.  God knew I
needed it! 

I usually don't share with others regarding how much or what portions of the

bible I have memorized, because I absolutely do not want to sound boastful. 

I love the word with all my heart and am thankful for the ability to
memorize.  However, I am truly glad that I can feel comfortable here to
share what is on my heart and what I'm memorizing.  Has anyone memorized the

book of Acts?  I started it a couple of years ago, but have not been able to

stay the course.  I am so eager to get to the chapter about Stephen's
testimony.  However, I have had a lot of trouble staying motivated with
memorization since becoming the mother of two, with one on the way, and
having some health problems as well.  What are some good suggestions to
sticking with it?  I do pray about it and the desire is there.  I have
memorized large portions of scripture in the past, but I feel somewhat
discouraged about not being able to go forward with Acts. I've made it to
about chapter 5, but will need some review.  I think just being a part of
this group will help...I know it will.  However, I would love any
suggestions or just for someone to share their own exp. with struggling to
stay at it and what God showed them.

 
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Wow! That's encouraging to hear that that video on Supermemo might still be of
use! To view the video go to http://www.word2life.com/scripturememory04.htm, and
scroll down the page for the Supermemo link. While you are there I'd encouage
you to check out the HYPERLINK "http://www.word2life.com/demo.htm"Demo Page as
well.


As far as collections are concerned, I have about a thousand verses sliced and
diced in various ways entered into Supermemo. Though very helpful to me
personally, I don't know if what I have would be useful to anyone else as many
verses are filled with obscure mnemonic references! However if anyone is
interested I'd certainly be willing to share.


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To all,

Accountability would be very helpful to me as I pursue God's Word.  There are
some in my church and elsewhere with whom I check in from time to time, but as I
could certainly use more support I'm going to go out on a limb here and commit
myself to accountability to this group.  Currently I'm working on Proverbs 10-31
and would like to complete the project by year's end.  I just started in on
chapter 12 yesterday and should be completed by February 28th.  I'll report in
at month's end.  (The mere act of writing this email is already helping me to
resolve that that report will be a good one!)

In Christ,


David Baldwin
mailto:david()word2life.com"david()word2life.com

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I am attempting my first full book of the Bible.  I have chosen Philippians. 
Does anyone have anything that has especially helped them with that book?
 
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Meg,


I note that you wrote the below in response to Phil Walker's words.  Let me just
say that Phil could be of immense encouragement to you as well as provide
excellent advice.  What he provides on his website,
http://scripturememorychallenge.org is very much what he applies in churches,
schools and organizations with which he works.  Phil invited me to dramatically
present Scripture to several churches and schools in New York last October.  For
three days we went at breakneck speed all around the Hudson Valley area
presenting and speaking about Scripture memory.  I can't tell you how impressed
I was at the work he's doing in encouraging believers to hide God's word in
their hearts and the absolute commitment with which he approaches that task. 

--

David Baldwin
:david()word2life.com

HYPERLINK "http://www.word2life.com"www.word2life.com
Dramatically Presenting the Bible





Bible Memory List wrote:

I tried doing a Bible Memory Group in our church.  At first, there were
about 10 people "seriously" interested.  Pretty good for a congregation with

membership just over a hundred.  needless to say, only 1-3 and people showed

up for our monthly meetings, seven meetings total.  Actually, at the last
meeting it was just me sitting there for an hour.  It is really pitiful, the

lack of diligence in our culture to do what we know we ought to do and even
what we want to do.  I announced the end of the group as a result of
inadequate attendance and participation.

Even the people that showed up would have not memorized even one thing, and
what kind of meeting can be made out of that?

Glad to have found a community on the web that can be some real community
and accountability for me on this.

-Meg

-----Original Message-----
From: Bible Memory List HYPERLINK
"mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org"
Sent: Feb 14, 2005 2:32 PM
To: HYPERLINK
"mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org"biblememory()memoryverses.org
Subject: BibleMem: Scripture memory

New web site: HYPERLINK
"http://www.scripturememorychallenge.org"www.scripturememorychallenge.org

Memorizing and Loving it

Dear memorizing friends,

Hi.  My name is Phil Walker.  I have been a member for a couple years now
and always enjoy reading how God is at work in your lives in the area of
Scripture memory.

My most recent memorized chapters are ISAIAH 53 (25 of us at Upton Lake
Christian School in Clinton Corners, NY memorized this as a school project)
and ISAIAH 6 (in joining one of my students who decided on his own to
memorize this.)  Both have long been on my "someday" list, and it was a
thrill to get them.  The majesty of God (6) and the glorious suffering of
Christ (53) have given me some wonderful things to meditate on.

I would like to encourage you to visit my website
HYPERLINK
"http://www.scripturememorychallenge.org"www.scripturememorychallenge.org 
The main feature is the New Testament One

Year Challenge where I hope, Lord willing, to soon have thousands of
Christians around the world memorizing one key verse from every chapter of
the New Testament in a year.  We also have HAKOTS - Hearts After Key Old
Testament Scripture - who are doing the same with the OT.  I would love any
help any of you could give me in spreading the word about the New Testament
One Year Challenge (new groups start every Sept and Jan 1st.) to those you
know who might be interested as well as those of you who have websites who
would be willing to link to HYPERLINK
"http://www.scripturememorychallenge.org"www.scripturememorychallenge.org

Finally, I would like to encourage you to consider church Scripture memory.
I approached the pastor a year ago and he supported the idea.  He picks the
passage and we go at a very slow pace.  In 2004 we only learned 5 short
passages (Ex 34:5-7, 19:5-6, Rom 5:6-8, Ps 63:1-4, and Is 9:6-7)  At times
it has been frustrating.  After the initial novelty of the idea got 38 (out
of about 120 church attenders) to learn the first passage, it dropped
quickly with less than 20 having learned the last two.

To begin this new year, the pastor wanted to start with just ACTS 1:8.  I
thought that was pretty wimpy, but went along.  It has been truly wonderful
to see people struggle intensly with, but finally memorize that one verse.
We are at 48 who have quoted it.  I am praying that God will make the truth
of ACTS 1:8 real in our church  It has also been eye-opening to realize that

many in the church are convinced that they can not possibly memorize that
one verse, or at least it is not worth the enormous effort.  Can I encourage

you to think about starting a church wide Scripture memory program in your
church as we help our "Christian" culture know and appreciate what our God
has to say.

In Christ, your fellow servant and Scripture enthusiast, Phil Walker 

HYPERLINK
"mailto:phil()scripturememorychallenge.org"phil()scripturememorychallenge.org

PS  With help from a local pizza shop who let me have
$15 gift certificates at a reduced price, we got 11 church members to quote
from memory all 5 of the 2004 passages in one sitting.  Praise God!!


 



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The below reads just like my story!  I too started in on memorizing Acts, got to
chapter five, and fizzeled out.  Perhaps one day I will pick it up again and
finish the project, but not for now. I dropped the project because it became
evident to me that Acts was simply not the place for me to be focusing my time
and effort.  The Lord has impressed upon me more and more my need to get wisdom
and thus my focus is now on memorizing wisdom literature.  In that vein I've
thus far memorized Ecclesiasties, Proverbs
1-9 and am currently working on Proverbs 10 - 31.  As I work on memorizing
wisdom literature my heart is filled with joy for it seems that I'm focusing on
exactly the Scripture the Lord wants me to learn.  I encourage each of you not
only to memorize Scripture but to prayfully consider where in Scripture God
would have you focus.



--
David Baldwin
david()word2life.com

http://www.word2life.com"www.word2life.com
Dramatically Presenting the Bible





It is so wonderful to be part of this group!  I have longed for a place
where I could share with others who are of like minds regarding scripture
memory.  Seeing all of the e-mails begin to filter through, has been such a
comfort to me recently.  It is motivating, to say the least.  God knew I
needed it! 

I usually don't share with others regarding how much or what portions of the

bible I have memorized, because I absolutely do not want to sound boastful. 

I love the word with all my heart and am thankful for the ability to
memorize.  However, I am truly glad that I can feel comfortable here to
share what is on my heart and what I'm memorizing.  Has anyone memorized the

book of Acts?  I started it a couple of years ago, but have not been able to

stay the course.  I am so eager to get to the chapter about Stephen's
testimony.  However, I have had a lot of trouble staying motivated with
memorization since becoming the mother of two, with one on the way, and
having some health problems as well.  What are some good suggestions to
sticking with it?  I do pray about it and the desire is there.  I have
memorized large portions of scripture in the past, but I feel somewhat
discouraged about not being able to go forward with Acts. I've made it to
about chapter 5, but will need some review.  I think just being a part of
this group will help...I know it will.  However, I would love any
suggestions or just for someone to share their own exp. with struggling to
stay at it and what God showed them.

 
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Wow! That's encouraging to hear that that video on Supermemo might still be of
use! To view the video go to http://www.word2life.com/scripturememory04.htm, and
scroll down the page for the Supermemo link. While you are there I'd encouage
you to check out the HYPERLINK "http://www.word2life.com/demo.htm"Demo Page as
well.


As far as collections are concerned, I have about a thousand verses sliced and
diced in various ways entered into Supermemo. Though very helpful to me
personally, I don't know if what I have would be useful to anyone else as many
verses are filled with obscure mnemonic references! However if anyone is
interested I'd certainly be willing to share.


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Dear Tom,
I just finished Philippians this week.  It took me almost two years due to my
lack of consistent study, but I believe I have it for life.  One thing that is
helpful is to absolutely love that book, which I do.  I did some of the self
tests in the Scripture Memory 3  program, old-fashioned study on paper, and I
listen to it at least twice a day in my car.  I suggest putting it on CD with
lots of breaks so you can keep playing one section until you have it.  I also
recommend studying it on paper or computer before trying to learn by listening.
Listening is a good practice and review, but not a good way for me to learn from
scratch.  May the Lord keep you excited about that precious book until it is
part of your long-term memory (the advantage of taking forever to learn
something is that you remember it longer).
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I memorized Philippians about three years ago.  The advice I would give is to
memorize it thoroughly so you can quote it fluently without stutters and
stalls.   Then......quote the whole book at least once per day for the rest
of your life...a very do-able and worthwhile daily activity.   You will
probably be motivated to memorize more chapters and books as I was.
Blessings,   Sam
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I am attempting my first full book of the Bible. I have chosen Philippians.
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Hello, all!

how are you?  I have only been getting e-mails from this list for a couple of
days now, and I can already tell it will be a big factor in me keeping on track
and staying excited about Bible memory.  Sometimes I think I'm weak that I need
accoutnability for something so "simple", but I guess that's just the way we're
made, to need each other.

Anyhow, I just read today that Karen (also on this list) does her review and
memorizing while she's walking.  That's cool because I'm going to start getting
back into Bible memory (have been out of it for a little over a
month) while I ride my new stationary bike.  I need to work on both my physical
health and my spiritual health and I know that it will make my biking just fly
by if I'm working on verses and not just staring at the little digital display
that tells me how slow I'm going.  :-)  I really look forward to this.

Also, another confession, I have been bad about reviewing verses and I know
that's pretty stupid, that's like catch and release for fishing... fun at the
time, but not very useful long term.  I am going to work on reviewing verses
too.  Oh boy!  I have a lot of stuff to get together.

Thanks for the support and encouragement I've been getting from all of you!
I will stay in touch.
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I like the NASB.  I think it is the most accurate and with the NASB update it is
very understandable.
 
In Christ
 
Lee Delbridge
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Subject: BibleMem: which version?
 
Hello,

I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any messages until
now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses memorized. However, with a full
course load at University and my part-time job, I can no longer put in the same
amount of time for memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to
recalling those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3
verses a day until I memorize the book of Romans.

What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find that if I
memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved person for
example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it leaves me to
translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering if I should memorize
from NKJV or even NASB.

Glad to see this is up and running again! This means I have to start memorizing
soon.

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Thanks a lot for the reply.  That's funny what you said about going to the
wisdom books, because I did that for a while.  I thought that maybe I needed a
change and that the Lord possibly wanted me elsewhere in the word.  I started to
memorize Proverbs and I made it about as far as where you are now.  However, I
used the KJV and I think hampered me from continuing.  I was trying to use the
KJV more b/c of the accuracy, but it's now what I'm used to.  I usually use
NIV.  I'm curious what version you are memorizing from.  I would be willing to
commit to doing the next 10 verses with you as a prayer partner and for
accountability.  I will also include my five year old.  She has a lot of
scripture memorized and enjoys it.  I home-school her, so we include it in her
writing lessons, etc.  What do you think? 
 
Sarah

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Subject: BibleMem: Re: staying the course

The below reads just like my story! I too started in on memorizing Acts, got to
chapter five, and fizzeled out. Perhaps one day I will pick it up again and
finish the project, but not for now. I dropped the project because it became
evident to me that Acts was simply not the place for me to be focusing my time
and effort. The Lord has impressed upon me more and more my need to get wisdom
and thus my focus is now on memorizing wisdom literature. In that vein I've thus
far memorized Ecclesiasties, Proverbs
1-9 and am currently working on Proverbs 10 - 31. As I work on memorizing wisdom
literature my heart is filled with joy for it seems that I'm focusing on exactly
the Scripture the Lord wants me to learn. I encourage each of you not only to
memorize Scripture but to prayfully consider where in Scripture God would have
you focus.



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It is so wonderful to be part of this group! I have longed for a place
where I could share with others who are of like minds regarding scripture
memory. Seeing all of the e-mails begin to filter through, has been such a
comfort to me recently. It is motivating, to say the least. God knew I
needed it!

I usually don't share with others regarding how much or what portions of the

bible I have memorized, because I absolutely do not want to sound boastful.

I love the word with all my heart and am thankful for the ability to
memorize. However, I am truly glad that I can feel comfortable here to
share what is on my heart and what I'm memorizing. Has anyone memorized the

book of Acts? I started it a couple of years ago, but have not been able to

stay the course. I am so eager to get to the chapter about Stephen's
testimony. However, I have had a lot of trouble staying motivated with
memorization since becoming the mother of two, with one on the way, and
having some health problems as well. What are some good suggestions to
sticking with it? I do pray about it and the desire is there. I have
memorized large portions of scripture in the past, but I feel somewhat
discouraged about not being able to go forward with Acts. I've made it to
about chapter 5, but will need some review. I think just being a part of
this group will help...I know it will. However, I would love any
suggestions or just for someone to share their own exp. with struggling to
stay at it and what God showed them.


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I agree.  Sometimes we decide ourselves that we're going to do something, or God
directs us, but we need to be flexible.  Even if you are supposed to memorize
the book of Acts, maybe now is not the time for it to be your main focus.  Maybe
it's something for later.
I've had to learn to be flexible and not just follow my plan, but try to follow
where I'm being led.  Let's face it!  Most of the time we're blindfolded.
On that note.  I try not to plan my memorization too far ahead.  this has worked
in two ways- to let me drop something I thought I was going to memorize for
something I felt more strongly led to memorize, without feeling like a quitter.
For two, it's actually led to me memorizing more than I originally thought I was
going to or could from certain passages.  Who knew?
I definitely wouldn't stress about it.
-Meg

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Subject: BibleMem: Re:  staying the course

The below reads just like my story!  I too started in on memorizing Acts, got to
chapter five, and fizzeled out.  Perhaps one day I will pick it up again and
finish the project, but not for now. I dropped the project because it became
evident to me that Acts was simply not the place for me to be focusing my time
and effort.  The Lord has impressed upon me more and more my need to get wisdom
and thus my focus is now on memorizing wisdom literature.  In that vein I've
thus far memorized Ecclesiasties, Proverbs
1-9 and am currently working on Proverbs 10 - 31.  As I work on memorizing
wisdom literature my heart is filled with joy for it seems that I'm focusing on
exactly the Scripture the Lord wants me to learn.  I encourage each of you not
only to memorize Scripture but to prayfully consider where in Scripture God
would have you focus.



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It is so wonderful to be part of this group!  I have longed for a place where I
could share with others who are of like minds regarding scripture memory. 
Seeing all of the e-mails begin to filter through, has been such a comfort to me
recently.  It is motivating, to say the least.  God knew I needed it! 

I usually don't share with others regarding how much or what portions of the

bible I have memorized, because I absolutely do not want to sound boastful. 

I love the word with all my heart and am thankful for the ability to memorize. 
However, I am truly glad that I can feel comfortable here to share what is on my
heart and what I'm memorizing.  Has anyone memorized the

book of Acts?  I started it a couple of years ago, but have not been able to

stay the course.  I am so eager to get to the chapter about Stephen's
testimony.  However, I have had a lot of trouble staying motivated with
memorization since becoming the mother of two, with one on the way, and having
some health problems as well.  What are some good suggestions to sticking with
it?  I do pray about it and the desire is there.  I have memorized large
portions of scripture in the past, but I feel somewhat discouraged about not
being able to go forward with Acts. I've made it to about chapter 5, but will
need some review.  I think just being a part of this group will help...I know it
will.  However, I would love any suggestions or just for someone to share their
own exp. with struggling to stay at it and what God showed them.

 
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Mel,
I will definately be lifting you and your daughter up during this 40 days or
renewal, and for your school work - it is quite a lot to keep up with, isn't it?
 
As for your suggestion on focusing on scripture to renew my mind, in a sense,
that is what I am doing.
 
I had been praying a great deal about learning to worship and praise more fully
- I feel that I am so limited by my human language and emotions in this area. 
Some weeks back as I was praying, the LORD spoke to my spirit, telling me to
spend a time just in praise and worship, without asking anything for myself. 
Now I know the bible says to let our request be made known to God, so I filed
this away mentally to muse over, and to verify that I had understood correctly. 
Within one week, I had picked up two new books, both by authors I trust, who
reported similar experiences.  I may be slow, but I did finally get the message
- so for this 40 days (39 to go) I am seeking God in praise and worship and
interceeding for others, trusting that He knows my needs better than myself. 
The scriptures I will be memorizing through this period all have to do with
encouraging worship and an enlarge appreciation for who and what God is. 
Yesterday, I memorized Psalm 71:6-8 reminding me that God created me, delivered
me, and has kept me since He planned me in eternity.  Today I am looking at God
as Father, and will be memorizing Matt.6:32 and Luke 12:31-32.
 
Know that for the next 39 days, intercession is taking on a new priority in my
prayer life, and that I will be daily lifting you up. 
 
Denna

Bible Memory List   wrote:

Denna your honesty is so refreshing!  I too am a full time graduate student and
struggle with scripture memorization. I will be in prayer for you for victory in
that area. Please do the same for me.  My daughter and I are on a 40-day
renewing of the mind with scriptures time of consecration which began
yesterday  The desire to be faithful in scripture memory is half the battle. 
Maybe during your 40-day consecration time you might wish to focus on scripture
that will allow you to renew your mind in specific areas.

Blessings
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Terry,
Thanks for your comment about the genealogies of scripture being intended to
indicate the right person to do ministry.  The Lord has recently been calling my
attention to these in my daily Bible reading, and I have been praying about what
He is wanting to show me.  I think your comment is part of His answer. I also
use audio when I memorize, but I record the verses in my own voice leaving space
to recite the versed either before or after.  I found this idea in the archives,
and it has really helped me.
Judy

Bible Memory List   wrote:

Hi Stephen and others,

At the moment I really discovered the importance to know yourself. Both
spiritually and physically.

Memorization can really help in your walk with the Lord. But we have to be
careful to memorize the right texts. What is our argument to choose a text to
memorize? Is it to boost of our huge Bible knowledge so we can show off to
everyone that we 'even' know that verse? Or is it exactly the verse the Lord
wants us to know by heart? The verse that we struggle with and makes us feel we
have a long way to go with the Lord in this exact area.

I personally believe that there is no text in the Bible that is 'theory only'.
Even the genealogies were intended to indicate the right person to do a
ministry. There is no theoretical knowledge needed to be able to enter the
Kingdom. So if God is trying to change me, I should listen to the texts He wants
me to hear.

It is also important to know yourself physically. How is your brain functioning?
People tend to have preferences in memorization techniques; so let's use that.
People often use the phrase 'photographic memory' when they mean 'very good
memory'. But it is rather a description of how that brain prefers to remember
things: by pictures! People like that have bad luck when it comes to Bible
memorization; there are no pictures in most Bibles. They often have to create
their own mental pictures when they try to memorize the Bible.
But there is much more your brain can prefer to remember. Some prefer written
text. I personally am an audio person. At school I never did my homework because
I didn't need to (my teachers disagreed on that...).
If I visited the lessons, I listened to the explanation of the teacher and that
was sufficient for me to pass tests, including my exams. Even now I remember a
lot of what these teachers said to me almost 20 years ago. I should use that in
Bible memorization. So I mainly use audio bibles. There are plenty.

For Dutch speaking persons like me, there is http://www.voorleesbijbel.nl/ My
English speaking brothers and sisters may use http://www.audiotreasure.com/
Other languages, including Hebrew old testament for the original text
users: http://www.audioscripture.com/
And a greek new testament is found at
http://www.ccel.org/a/anonymous/gnt/home.html
Pronounced better, but (for now) incomplete greek and latin new
testament: http://www.greeklatinaudio.com/

This is what is freely available, ready to download and use. But there are also
good products available commercially, or you could ask libraries for the blind
if they have audio bibles available to seeing persons as well.
Synthetic speech can be a 'last resort' if your favorite translation is not
available...

OK, enough about audio bibles. What I try to say is that it is useful to
investigate how your memory works and use that. It can really be frustrating
otherwise.

Terry

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From: Huff, David
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM
To: 'Bible Memory List'
Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator

Everyone:

Good to see the list active again!  I began memorizing large passages about
2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit into my
life since then.  My best review time is during the morning "shower and dress"
routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of anything (except
possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-).

I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation have
brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming spiritual
discipline I have ever pursued!  I lead a men's mentoring/discipleship ministry
in our church, and we are using Scripture memory with some wonderful results!!

The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5 -7),
and it still remains my favorite.  I've also worked my way through James and I
John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with a number of
shorter Psalms.  Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge - Psalm 119.

Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility
-- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me to
memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own.  Some weeks I accomplish more
than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to APPLY what I'm
learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and disciplines -- me.

It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!!  I look forward to
hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm 119:11.

In Christ,
David

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Greetings,

It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture
Memory Email Discussion List.  During the last several months I have been
tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work.  (My father
passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work).
So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.

Now however, I would like to get things going again ...

>  If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with  the words
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> message.

I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of
Memorizing Scripture.

How is everybody doing?

What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?

What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing
scripture had on your relationship with God and others?


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I memorized the book of Philippians when my first child was a baby, about
3-4 years ago now.  I just took a few verses every evening, b/c that was my time
when the house was quiet and I could really focus.  It helped me to say it out
loud for my husband and parents.  I loved the feeling of getting into character,
as if I was Paul talking to that group of people.  You can really feel the
emotion behind it when you say it out loud to someone who you are comfortable
with.  That made it come alive for me.  I also was given the opportunity to
recite the book in two churches, which was just amazing.  I am NOT a public
speaker and I was so scared!  However, I have never felt so filled with the
spirit of God as I recited...it felt like God was speaking through me!  I
usually get just panicked in from of people and hyperventilate or talk to fast,
but I was totally calm and was able to say the whole thing with no mistakes both
times.  It was a witness to me and I will never forget it. And, it cemented in
my heart that the reason for memorizing is not just for myself, but for others. 
It blessed a lot of people.  I was truly humbled.  God is just so awesome!
 
I will pray for you as you memorize!
 
In Him,
 
Sarah

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I am attempting my first full book of the Bible. I have chosen Philippians. Does
anyone have anything that has especially helped them with that book?

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Geoff.
If you haven't already memorized these I would suggest the Romans Road to
salvation.  It is: Rom. 3:23; Rom. 6:23: Rom. 5:8; Rom. 10: 9,10; Rom.
10:13; and Eph. 2: 8-10.  I had the children in a Sunday School class of 8 to 12
year olds I used to teach memorized these, and two of them were saved.
Judy

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Dear Friends,

Greetings from Leicester, UK! I work with a Sunday School group for 5-7 year
olds, and am very keen to have the children memorising a verse a month in a
one-year cycle - so 12 verses altogether. John 3:16, John 14:6 and Acts 1:8
already memorised (allegedly...) I would be very interested in members' views on
THE 12 verses to go for. If (as I hope) this generates a fair bit of
correspondence, remember that any additional verse requires another to be
jettisoned!


With many thanks for your help and very best wishes,



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Dear Brother,
Love your idea of using a verse a day in all our communications with fellow
christians!  I use the verses I have memorized as prayers for others.  This
would also remind me to take a few minutes to pray for that brother or sister
that I'm writing to. Judy

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Hi dear all

I was wondering what happened with the memoryverses.org as there has been a long
silence. am a pastor from india, but now working in a ministry in USA where part
of my family moved in recently- when i said part - i still have my elder and
minor children still in india. i found one of the best way to remember verses is
to use one verse daily in any communication you make to other christians..
letters or e-mails.. i remember when i was a small boy, my eldest brother who
was serving in indian army used to write letters whome
- of course these letters comes once in a month- and all letters have one verse
on the top. how do you all likes this idea?? and this will make us memorise the
verse as well as the person on the other side?

pls share your views, and my e-mail in this part of the world is
- equipindia()sbcglobal.net -

Blessings.


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Subject: BibleMem: Re: New member

> I am an Awana leader & commander. I earned my citatation award by
> doing 14 books several years ago & am working on my second one. Have
> memorized about 800 verses so far Jodi
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> Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join
> and have a group of Christians with which to memorize large sections
> of the Bible. I am homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want
> to teach them as well. Hope to get to know you all soon!! Thanks,
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Deborah,
Thanks for asking the question about being sure of what the Lord would have you
memorize next.  This is my greatest recent struggle with memory work. I'm  right
there with you on not always being sure of my 'hearing' the Lord correctly.  But
I know He will make this clear for us if we persevere in what we do know.  I
also went through a struggle on what translation He would have me to use when I
first started with regular memorization.  Not only did the Lord make it crystal
clear in His own time and way, but He also used this struggle to hear Him
clearly to bless me in many other ways. I believe He will do the same with
discerning His will in what verses to memorize because He has promised both
direction and wisdom to those who ask.  Maybe you question and the answers it
receives will be part of His answer for us.
Love,
Judy

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I was just going to say, our speaker last night said he met a Presbyterian
family last year who only sing Psalms. As a result, their children, not yet
grown, have over half the psalms memorized!

I started memorizing 1 Peter probably over a year ago - when I got almost to the
end of the 2nd chapter I let various distractions get in the way, and have not
soldiered through. Aside from an obvious enemy who would discourage the process,
and my own weak flesh, I wonder if it is because I chose it without enough
prayer and should have picked another book. I'm not so sure of my "hearing" at
times, how have others known for sure what to memorize?
Grace,
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It is very encouraging to see people responding to memorizing scripture!  I have
not really concentrated on chapters or books - only chapters here and there
because of God's leading.  Most of my memorization is individual verses and
passages.

My prayer is that all of us will seek God's leading in this endeavor.
Mainly, that as James 1:22 says, "But be ye doers of the word and not hearers
only, deceiving your own selves.".  I have memorized quite a number of
scriptures over the years and have been recently convicted about organizing the
memorized verses into topic format.  It is really difficult to share with others
particular verses sometimes because the verse is in with a hundred others and I
have a hard time remembering the reference.
Jack Van Impe has some good pointers on his website that encourages also
memorizing "topic outlines" along with the references so that the scriptures are
more handy for use.  For those who may not know , he has been referred to as
"the walking Bible".

May God bless us all in hiding His word in our heart and not just in our minds.
If it is in our hearts, it cannot help but show forth in our lives.

Chuck

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Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:37 AM
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Subject: BibleMem: Re: staying the course


The below reads just like my story!  I too started in on memorizing Acts, got to
chapter five, and fizzeled out.  Perhaps one day I will pick it up again and
finish the project, but not for now. I dropped the project because it became
evident to me that Acts was simply not the place for me to be focusing my time
and effort.  The Lord has impressed upon me more and more my need to get wisdom
and thus my focus is now on memorizing wisdom literature.  In that vein I've
thus far memorized Ecclesiasties, Proverbs
1-9 and am currently working on Proverbs 10 - 31.  As I work on memorizing
wisdom literature my heart is filled with joy for it seems that I'm focusing on
exactly the Scripture the Lord wants me to learn.  I encourage each of you not
only to memorize Scripture but to prayfully consider where in Scripture God
would have you focus.



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It is so wonderful to be part of this group!  I have longed for a place where I
could share with others who are of like minds regarding scripture memory. 
Seeing all of the e-mails begin to filter through, has been such a comfort to me
recently.  It is motivating, to say the least.  God knew I needed it! 

I usually don't share with others regarding how much or what portions of the

bible I have memorized, because I absolutely do not want to sound boastful. 

I love the word with all my heart and am thankful for the ability to memorize. 
However, I am truly glad that I can feel comfortable here to share what is on my
heart and what I'm memorizing.  Has anyone memorized the

book of Acts?  I started it a couple of years ago, but have not been able to

stay the course.  I am so eager to get to the chapter about Stephen's
testimony.  However, I have had a lot of trouble staying motivated with
memorization since becoming the mother of two, with one on the way, and having
some health problems as well.  What are some good suggestions to sticking with
it?  I do pray about it and the desire is there.  I have memorized large
portions of scripture in the past, but I feel somewhat discouraged about not
being able to go forward with Acts. I've made it to about chapter 5, but will
need some review.  I think just being a part of this group will help...I know it
will.  However, I would love any suggestions or just for someone to share their
own exp. with struggling to stay at it and what God showed them.

 
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Greetings!

Yes, it seems sad how people value the Bible so little. The Bible is one of my
treasures here on earth! I want to memorize as much of it as I can, especially
while I am young, and allow God's words to transform me and make me more
effective in His Kingdom.

Thank you to each of you for your contribution in this discussion list.
Please show your face to all of us over at www.Pursuinglife.com sometime!

Sincerely,
Lavern Gingerich
www.pursuinglife.com
A discipleship site for Bible memory fanatics.

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Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:45 PM
To: biblememory()memoryverses.org
Subject: BibleMem: About Church Bible Memory Projects

I tried doing a Bible Memory Group in our church.  At first, there were about 10
people "seriously" interested.  Pretty good for a congregation with membership
just over a hundred.  needless to say, only 1-3 and people showed up for our
monthly meetings, seven meetings total.  Actually, at the last meeting it was
just me sitting there for an hour.  It is really pitiful, the lack of diligence
in our culture to do what we know we ought to do and even what we want to do.  I
announced the end of the group as a result of inadequate attendance and
participation.

Even the people that showed up would have not memorized even one thing, and what
kind of meeting can be made out of that?

Glad to have found a community on the web that can be some real community and
accountability for me on this.

-Meg

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Sent: Feb 14, 2005 2:32 PM
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Subject: BibleMem: Scripture memory

New web site: www.scripturememorychallenge.org

Memorizing and Loving it

Dear memorizing friends,

Hi.  My name is Phil Walker.  I have been a member for a couple years now and
always enjoy reading how God is at work in your lives in the area of Scripture
memory.

My most recent memorized chapters are ISAIAH 53 (25 of us at Upton Lake
Christian School in Clinton Corners, NY memorized this as a school project) and
ISAIAH 6 (in joining one of my students who decided on his own to memorize
this.)  Both have long been on my "someday" list, and it was a thrill to get
them.  The majesty of God (6) and the glorious suffering of Christ (53) have
given me some wonderful things to meditate on.

I would like to encourage you to visit my website
www.scripturememorychallenge.org  The main feature is the New Testament One Year
Challenge where I hope, Lord willing, to soon have thousands of Christians
around the world memorizing one key verse from every chapter of the New
Testament in a year.  We also have HAKOTS - Hearts After Key Old Testament
Scripture - who are doing the same with the OT.  I would love any help any of
you could give me in spreading the word about the New Testament One Year
Challenge (new groups start every Sept and Jan 1st.) to those you know who might
be interested as well as those of you who have websites who would be willing to
link to www.scripturememorychallenge.org

Finally, I would like to encourage you to consider church Scripture memory.
I approached the pastor a year ago and he supported the idea.  He picks the
passage and we go at a very slow pace.  In 2004 we only learned 5 short passages
(Ex 34:5-7, 19:5-6, Rom 5:6-8, Ps 63:1-4, and Is 9:6-7)  At times it has been
frustrating.  After the initial novelty of the idea got 38 (out of about 120
church attenders) to learn the first passage, it dropped quickly with less than
20 having learned the last two.

To begin this new year, the pastor wanted to start with just ACTS 1:8.  I
thought that was pretty wimpy, but went along.  It has been truly wonderful to
see people struggle intensly with, but finally memorize that one verse.
We are at 48 who have quoted it.  I am praying that God will make the truth of
ACTS 1:8 real in our church  It has also been eye-opening to realize that many
in the church are convinced that they can not possibly memorize that one verse,
or at least it is not worth the enormous effort.  Can I encourage you to think
about starting a church wide Scripture memory program in your church as we help
our "Christian" culture know and appreciate what our God has to say.

In Christ, your fellow servant and Scripture enthusiast, Phil Walker

phil()scripturememorychallenge.org

PS  With help from a local pizza shop who let me have
$15 gift certificates at a reduced price, we got 11 church members to quote from
memory all 5 of the 2004 passages in one sitting.  Praise God!!


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Hello,

I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any messages until
now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses memorized. However, with a full
course load at University and my part-time job, I can no longer put in the same
amount of time for memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to
recalling those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3
verses a day until I memorize the book of Romans.

What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find that if I
memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved person for
example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it leaves me to
translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering if I should memorize
from NKJV or even NASB.

Glad to see this is up and running again! This means I have to start memorizing
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Dear Tom,
I just finished Philippians this week.  It took me almost two years due to my
lack of consistent study, but I believe I have it for life.  One thing that is
helpful is to absolutely love that book, which I do.  I did some of the self
tests in the Scripture Memory 3  program, old-fashioned study on paper, and I
listen to it at least twice a day in my car.  I suggest putting it on CD with
lots of breaks so you can keep playing one section until you have it.  I also
recommend studying it on paper or computer before trying to learn by listening.
Listening is a good practice and review, but not a good way for me to learn from
scratch.  May the Lord keep you excited about that precious book until it is
part of your long-term memory (the advantage of taking forever to learn
something is that you remember it longer).
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I memorized Philippians about three years ago.  The advice I would give is to
memorize it thoroughly so you can quote it fluently without stutters and
stalls.   Then......quote the whole book at least once per day for the rest
of your life...a very do-able and worthwhile daily activity.   You will
probably be motivated to memorize more chapters and books as I was.
Blessings,   Sam
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I am attempting my first full book of the Bible. I have chosen Philippians.
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Hello, all!

how are you?  I have only been getting e-mails from this list for a couple of
days now, and I can already tell it will be a big factor in me keeping on track
and staying excited about Bible memory.  Sometimes I think I'm weak that I need
accoutnability for something so "simple", but I guess that's just the way we're
made, to need each other.

Anyhow, I just read today that Karen (also on this list) does her review and
memorizing while she's walking.  That's cool because I'm going to start getting
back into Bible memory (have been out of it for a little over a
month) while I ride my new stationary bike.  I need to work on both my physical
health and my spiritual health and I know that it will make my biking just fly
by if I'm working on verses and not just staring at the little digital display
that tells me how slow I'm going.  :-)  I really look forward to this.

Also, another confession, I have been bad about reviewing verses and I know
that's pretty stupid, that's like catch and release for fishing... fun at the
time, but not very useful long term.  I am going to work on reviewing verses
too.  Oh boy!  I have a lot of stuff to get together.

Thanks for the support and encouragement I've been getting from all of you!
I will stay in touch.
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I like the NASB.  I think it is the most accurate and with the NASB update it is
very understandable.
 
In Christ
 
Lee Delbridge
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From: Bible Memory List
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 2:34 PM
To: biblememory()memoryverses.org
Subject: BibleMem: which version?
 
Hello,

I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any messages until
now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses memorized. However, with a full
course load at University and my part-time job, I can no longer put in the same
amount of time for memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to
recalling those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3
verses a day until I memorize the book of Romans.

What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find that if I
memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved person for
example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it leaves me to
translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering if I should memorize
from NKJV or even NASB.

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soon.

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Thanks a lot for the reply.  That's funny what you said about going to the
wisdom books, because I did that for a while.  I thought that maybe I needed a
change and that the Lord possibly wanted me elsewhere in the word.  I started to
memorize Proverbs and I made it about as far as where you are now.  However, I
used the KJV and I think hampered me from continuing.  I was trying to use the
KJV more b/c of the accuracy, but it's now what I'm used to.  I usually use
NIV.  I'm curious what version you are memorizing from.  I would be willing to
commit to doing the next 10 verses with you as a prayer partner and for
accountability.  I will also include my five year old.  She has a lot of
scripture memorized and enjoys it.  I home-school her, so we include it in her
writing lessons, etc.  What do you think? 
 
Sarah

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Subject: BibleMem: Re: staying the course

The below reads just like my story! I too started in on memorizing Acts, got to
chapter five, and fizzeled out. Perhaps one day I will pick it up again and
finish the project, but not for now. I dropped the project because it became
evident to me that Acts was simply not the place for me to be focusing my time
and effort. The Lord has impressed upon me more and more my need to get wisdom
and thus my focus is now on memorizing wisdom literature. In that vein I've thus
far memorized Ecclesiasties, Proverbs
1-9 and am currently working on Proverbs 10 - 31. As I work on memorizing wisdom
literature my heart is filled with joy for it seems that I'm focusing on exactly
the Scripture the Lord wants me to learn. I encourage each of you not only to
memorize Scripture but to prayfully consider where in Scripture God would have
you focus.



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It is so wonderful to be part of this group! I have longed for a place
where I could share with others who are of like minds regarding scripture
memory. Seeing all of the e-mails begin to filter through, has been such a
comfort to me recently. It is motivating, to say the least. God knew I
needed it!

I usually don't share with others regarding how much or what portions of the

bible I have memorized, because I absolutely do not want to sound boastful.

I love the word with all my heart and am thankful for the ability to
memorize. However, I am truly glad that I can feel comfortable here to
share what is on my heart and what I'm memorizing. Has anyone memorized the

book of Acts? I started it a couple of years ago, but have not been able to

stay the course. I am so eager to get to the chapter about Stephen's
testimony. However, I have had a lot of trouble staying motivated with
memorization since becoming the mother of two, with one on the way, and
having some health problems as well. What are some good suggestions to
sticking with it? I do pray about it and the desire is there. I have
memorized large portions of scripture in the past, but I feel somewhat
discouraged about not being able to go forward with Acts. I've made it to
about chapter 5, but will need some review. I think just being a part of
this group will help...I know it will. However, I would love any
suggestions or just for someone to share their own exp. with struggling to
stay at it and what God showed them.


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I agree.  Sometimes we decide ourselves that we're going to do something, or God
directs us, but we need to be flexible.  Even if you are supposed to memorize
the book of Acts, maybe now is not the time for it to be your main focus.  Maybe
it's something for later.
I've had to learn to be flexible and not just follow my plan, but try to follow
where I'm being led.  Let's face it!  Most of the time we're blindfolded.
On that note.  I try not to plan my memorization too far ahead.  this has worked
in two ways- to let me drop something I thought I was going to memorize for
something I felt more strongly led to memorize, without feeling like a quitter.
For two, it's actually led to me memorizing more than I originally thought I was
going to or could from certain passages.  Who knew?
I definitely wouldn't stress about it.
-Meg

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Sent: Feb 16, 2005 11:36 AM
To: biblememory()memoryverses.org
Subject: BibleMem: Re:  staying the course

The below reads just like my story!  I too started in on memorizing Acts, got to
chapter five, and fizzeled out.  Perhaps one day I will pick it up again and
finish the project, but not for now. I dropped the project because it became
evident to me that Acts was simply not the place for me to be focusing my time
and effort.  The Lord has impressed upon me more and more my need to get wisdom
and thus my focus is now on memorizing wisdom literature.  In that vein I've
thus far memorized Ecclesiasties, Proverbs
1-9 and am currently working on Proverbs 10 - 31.  As I work on memorizing
wisdom literature my heart is filled with joy for it seems that I'm focusing on
exactly the Scripture the Lord wants me to learn.  I encourage each of you not
only to memorize Scripture but to prayfully consider where in Scripture God
would have you focus.



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It is so wonderful to be part of this group!  I have longed for a place where I
could share with others who are of like minds regarding scripture memory. 
Seeing all of the e-mails begin to filter through, has been such a comfort to me
recently.  It is motivating, to say the least.  God knew I needed it! 

I usually don't share with others regarding how much or what portions of the

bible I have memorized, because I absolutely do not want to sound boastful. 

I love the word with all my heart and am thankful for the ability to memorize. 
However, I am truly glad that I can feel comfortable here to share what is on my
heart and what I'm memorizing.  Has anyone memorized the

book of Acts?  I started it a couple of years ago, but have not been able to

stay the course.  I am so eager to get to the chapter about Stephen's
testimony.  However, I have had a lot of trouble staying motivated with
memorization since becoming the mother of two, with one on the way, and having
some health problems as well.  What are some good suggestions to sticking with
it?  I do pray about it and the desire is there.  I have memorized large
portions of scripture in the past, but I feel somewhat discouraged about not
being able to go forward with Acts. I've made it to about chapter 5, but will
need some review.  I think just being a part of this group will help...I know it
will.  However, I would love any suggestions or just for someone to share their
own exp. with struggling to stay at it and what God showed them.

 
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Mel,
I will definately be lifting you and your daughter up during this 40 days or
renewal, and for your school work - it is quite a lot to keep up with, isn't it?
 
As for your suggestion on focusing on scripture to renew my mind, in a sense,
that is what I am doing.
 
I had been praying a great deal about learning to worship and praise more fully
- I feel that I am so limited by my human language and emotions in this area. 
Some weeks back as I was praying, the LORD spoke to my spirit, telling me to
spend a time just in praise and worship, without asking anything for myself. 
Now I know the bible says to let our request be made known to God, so I filed
this away mentally to muse over, and to verify that I had understood correctly. 
Within one week, I had picked up two new books, both by authors I trust, who
reported similar experiences.  I may be slow, but I did finally get the message
- so for this 40 days (39 to go) I am seeking God in praise and worship and
interceeding for others, trusting that He knows my needs better than myself. 
The scriptures I will be memorizing through this period all have to do with
encouraging worship and an enlarge appreciation for who and what God is. 
Yesterday, I memorized Psalm 71:6-8 reminding me that God created me, delivered
me, and has kept me since He planned me in eternity.  Today I am looking at God
as Father, and will be memorizing Matt.6:32 and Luke 12:31-32.
 
Know that for the next 39 days, intercession is taking on a new priority in my
prayer life, and that I will be daily lifting you up. 
 
Denna

Bible Memory List   wrote:

Denna your honesty is so refreshing!  I too am a full time graduate student and
struggle with scripture memorization. I will be in prayer for you for victory in
that area. Please do the same for me.  My daughter and I are on a 40-day
renewing of the mind with scriptures time of consecration which began
yesterday  The desire to be faithful in scripture memory is half the battle. 
Maybe during your 40-day consecration time you might wish to focus on scripture
that will allow you to renew your mind in specific areas.

Blessings
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Terry,
Thanks for your comment about the genealogies of scripture being intended to
indicate the right person to do ministry.  The Lord has recently been calling my
attention to these in my daily Bible reading, and I have been praying about what
He is wanting to show me.  I think your comment is part of His answer. I also
use audio when I memorize, but I record the verses in my own voice leaving space
to recite the versed either before or after.  I found this idea in the archives,
and it has really helped me.
Judy

Bible Memory List   wrote:

Hi Stephen and others,

At the moment I really discovered the importance to know yourself. Both
spiritually and physically.

Memorization can really help in your walk with the Lord. But we have to be
careful to memorize the right texts. What is our argument to choose a text to
memorize? Is it to boost of our huge Bible knowledge so we can show off to
everyone that we 'even' know that verse? Or is it exactly the verse the Lord
wants us to know by heart? The verse that we struggle with and makes us feel we
have a long way to go with the Lord in this exact area.

I personally believe that there is no text in the Bible that is 'theory only'.
Even the genealogies were intended to indicate the right person to do a
ministry. There is no theoretical knowledge needed to be able to enter the
Kingdom. So if God is trying to change me, I should listen to the texts He wants
me to hear.

It is also important to know yourself physically. How is your brain functioning?
People tend to have preferences in memorization techniques; so let's use that.
People often use the phrase 'photographic memory' when they mean 'very good
memory'. But it is rather a description of how that brain prefers to remember
things: by pictures! People like that have bad luck when it comes to Bible
memorization; there are no pictures in most Bibles. They often have to create
their own mental pictures when they try to memorize the Bible.
But there is much more your brain can prefer to remember. Some prefer written
text. I personally am an audio person. At school I never did my homework because
I didn't need to (my teachers disagreed on that...).
If I visited the lessons, I listened to the explanation of the teacher and that
was sufficient for me to pass tests, including my exams. Even now I remember a
lot of what these teachers said to me almost 20 years ago. I should use that in
Bible memorization. So I mainly use audio bibles. There are plenty.

For Dutch speaking persons like me, there is http://www.voorleesbijbel.nl/ My
English speaking brothers and sisters may use http://www.audiotreasure.com/
Other languages, including Hebrew old testament for the original text
users: http://www.audioscripture.com/
And a greek new testament is found at
http://www.ccel.org/a/anonymous/gnt/home.html
Pronounced better, but (for now) incomplete greek and latin new
testament: http://www.greeklatinaudio.com/

This is what is freely available, ready to download and use. But there are also
good products available commercially, or you could ask libraries for the blind
if they have audio bibles available to seeing persons as well.
Synthetic speech can be a 'last resort' if your favorite translation is not
available...

OK, enough about audio bibles. What I try to say is that it is useful to
investigate how your memory works and use that. It can really be frustrating
otherwise.

Terry

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From: Huff, David
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM
To: 'Bible Memory List'
Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator

Everyone:

Good to see the list active again!  I began memorizing large passages about
2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit into my
life since then.  My best review time is during the morning "shower and dress"
routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of anything (except
possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-).

I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation have
brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming spiritual
discipline I have ever pursued!  I lead a men's mentoring/discipleship ministry
in our church, and we are using Scripture memory with some wonderful results!!

The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5 -7),
and it still remains my favorite.  I've also worked my way through James and I
John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with a number of
shorter Psalms.  Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge - Psalm 119.

Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility
-- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me to
memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own.  Some weeks I accomplish more
than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to APPLY what I'm
learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and disciplines -- me.

It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!!  I look forward to
hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm 119:11.

In Christ,
David

Rev. David C. Huff
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285 Main Street
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Greetings,

It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture
Memory Email Discussion List.  During the last several months I have been
tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work.  (My father
passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work).
So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.

Now however, I would like to get things going again ...

>  If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with  the words
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I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of
Memorizing Scripture.

How is everybody doing?

What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?

What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing
scripture had on your relationship with God and others?


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I memorized the book of Philippians when my first child was a baby, about
3-4 years ago now.  I just took a few verses every evening, b/c that was my time
when the house was quiet and I could really focus.  It helped me to say it out
loud for my husband and parents.  I loved the feeling of getting into character,
as if I was Paul talking to that group of people.  You can really feel the
emotion behind it when you say it out loud to someone who you are comfortable
with.  That made it come alive for me.  I also was given the opportunity to
recite the book in two churches, which was just amazing.  I am NOT a public
speaker and I was so scared!  However, I have never felt so filled with the
spirit of God as I recited...it felt like God was speaking through me!  I
usually get just panicked in from of people and hyperventilate or talk to fast,
but I was totally calm and was able to say the whole thing with no mistakes both
times.  It was a witness to me and I will never forget it. And, it cemented in
my heart that the reason for memorizing is not just for myself, but for others. 
It blessed a lot of people.  I was truly humbled.  God is just so awesome!
 
I will pray for you as you memorize!
 
In Him,
 
Sarah

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I am attempting my first full book of the Bible. I have chosen Philippians. Does
anyone have anything that has especially helped them with that book?

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Geoff.
If you haven't already memorized these I would suggest the Romans Road to
salvation.  It is: Rom. 3:23; Rom. 6:23: Rom. 5:8; Rom. 10: 9,10; Rom.
10:13; and Eph. 2: 8-10.  I had the children in a Sunday School class of 8 to 12
year olds I used to teach memorized these, and two of them were saved.
Judy

Bible Memory List   wrote:

Dear Friends,

Greetings from Leicester, UK! I work with a Sunday School group for 5-7 year
olds, and am very keen to have the children memorising a verse a month in a
one-year cycle - so 12 verses altogether. John 3:16, John 14:6 and Acts 1:8
already memorised (allegedly...) I would be very interested in members' views on
THE 12 verses to go for. If (as I hope) this generates a fair bit of
correspondence, remember that any additional verse requires another to be
jettisoned!


With many thanks for your help and very best wishes,



Geoff

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Dear Brother,
Love your idea of using a verse a day in all our communications with fellow
christians!  I use the verses I have memorized as prayers for others.  This
would also remind me to take a few minutes to pray for that brother or sister
that I'm writing to. Judy

Bible Memory List   wrote:

Hi dear all

I was wondering what happened with the memoryverses.org as there has been a long
silence. am a pastor from india, but now working in a ministry in USA where part
of my family moved in recently- when i said part - i still have my elder and
minor children still in india. i found one of the best way to remember verses is
to use one verse daily in any communication you make to other christians..
letters or e-mails.. i remember when i was a small boy, my eldest brother who
was serving in indian army used to write letters whome
- of course these letters comes once in a month- and all letters have one verse
on the top. how do you all likes this idea?? and this will make us memorise the
verse as well as the person on the other side?

pls share your views, and my e-mail in this part of the world is
- equipindia()sbcglobal.net -

Blessings.


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From: Bible Memory List
Date: Monday, February 14, 2005 2:43 pm
Subject: BibleMem: Re: New member

> I am an Awana leader & commander. I earned my citatation award by
> doing 14 books several years ago & am working on my second one. Have
> memorized about 800 verses so far Jodi
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> Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join
> and have a group of Christians with which to memorize large sections
> of the Bible. I am homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want
> to teach them as well. Hope to get to know you all soon!! Thanks,
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Deborah,
Thanks for asking the question about being sure of what the Lord would have you
memorize next.  This is my greatest recent struggle with memory work. I'm  right
there with you on not always being sure of my 'hearing' the Lord correctly.  But
I know He will make this clear for us if we persevere in what we do know.  I
also went through a struggle on what translation He would have me to use when I
first started with regular memorization.  Not only did the Lord make it crystal
clear in His own time and way, but He also used this struggle to hear Him
clearly to bless me in many other ways. I believe He will do the same with
discerning His will in what verses to memorize because He has promised both
direction and wisdom to those who ask.  Maybe you question and the answers it
receives will be part of His answer for us.
Love,
Judy

Bible Memory List   wrote:

I was just going to say, our speaker last night said he met a Presbyterian
family last year who only sing Psalms. As a result, their children, not yet
grown, have over half the psalms memorized!

I started memorizing 1 Peter probably over a year ago - when I got almost to the
end of the 2nd chapter I let various distractions get in the way, and have not
soldiered through. Aside from an obvious enemy who would discourage the process,
and my own weak flesh, I wonder if it is because I chose it without enough
prayer and should have picked another book. I'm not so sure of my "hearing" at
times, how have others known for sure what to memorize?
Grace,
Deborah


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It is very encouraging to see people responding to memorizing scripture!  I have
not really concentrated on chapters or books - only chapters here and there
because of God's leading.  Most of my memorization is individual verses and
passages.

My prayer is that all of us will seek God's leading in this endeavor.
Mainly, that as James 1:22 says, "But be ye doers of the word and not hearers
only, deceiving your own selves.".  I have memorized quite a number of
scriptures over the years and have been recently convicted about organizing the
memorized verses into topic format.  It is really difficult to share with others
particular verses sometimes because the verse is in with a hundred others and I
have a hard time remembering the reference.
Jack Van Impe has some good pointers on his website that encourages also
memorizing "topic outlines" along with the references so that the scriptures are
more handy for use.  For those who may not know , he has been referred to as
"the walking Bible".

May God bless us all in hiding His word in our heart and not just in our minds.
If it is in our hearts, it cannot help but show forth in our lives.

Chuck

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:37 AM
To: biblememory()memoryverses.org
Subject: BibleMem: Re: staying the course


The below reads just like my story!  I too started in on memorizing Acts, got to
chapter five, and fizzeled out.  Perhaps one day I will pick it up again and
finish the project, but not for now. I dropped the project because it became
evident to me that Acts was simply not the place for me to be focusing my time
and effort.  The Lord has impressed upon me more and more my need to get wisdom
and thus my focus is now on memorizing wisdom literature.  In that vein I've
thus far memorized Ecclesiasties, Proverbs
1-9 and am currently working on Proverbs 10 - 31.  As I work on memorizing
wisdom literature my heart is filled with joy for it seems that I'm focusing on
exactly the Scripture the Lord wants me to learn.  I encourage each of you not
only to memorize Scripture but to prayfully consider where in Scripture God
would have you focus.



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It is so wonderful to be part of this group!  I have longed for a place where I
could share with others who are of like minds regarding scripture memory. 
Seeing all of the e-mails begin to filter through, has been such a comfort to me
recently.  It is motivating, to say the least.  God knew I needed it! 

I usually don't share with others regarding how much or what portions of the

bible I have memorized, because I absolutely do not want to sound boastful. 

I love the word with all my heart and am thankful for the ability to memorize. 
However, I am truly glad that I can feel comfortable here to share what is on my
heart and what I'm memorizing.  Has anyone memorized the

book of Acts?  I started it a couple of years ago, but have not been able to

stay the course.  I am so eager to get to the chapter about Stephen's
testimony.  However, I have had a lot of trouble staying motivated with
memorization since becoming the mother of two, with one on the way, and having
some health problems as well.  What are some good suggestions to sticking with
it?  I do pray about it and the desire is there.  I have memorized large
portions of scripture in the past, but I feel somewhat discouraged about not
being able to go forward with Acts. I've made it to about chapter 5, but will
need some review.  I think just being a part of this group will help...I know it
will.  However, I would love any suggestions or just for someone to share their
own exp. with struggling to stay at it and what God showed them.

 
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Greetings!

Yes, it seems sad how people value the Bible so little. The Bible is one of my
treasures here on earth! I want to memorize as much of it as I can, especially
while I am young, and allow God's words to transform me and make me more
effective in His Kingdom.

Thank you to each of you for your contribution in this discussion list.
Please show your face to all of us over at www.Pursuinglife.com sometime!

Sincerely,
Lavern Gingerich
www.pursuinglife.com
A discipleship site for Bible memory fanatics.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:45 PM
To: biblememory()memoryverses.org
Subject: BibleMem: About Church Bible Memory Projects

I tried doing a Bible Memory Group in our church.  At first, there were about 10
people "seriously" interested.  Pretty good for a congregation with membership
just over a hundred.  needless to say, only 1-3 and people showed up for our
monthly meetings, seven meetings total.  Actually, at the last meeting it was
just me sitting there for an hour.  It is really pitiful, the lack of diligence
in our culture to do what we know we ought to do and even what we want to do.  I
announced the end of the group as a result of inadequate attendance and
participation.

Even the people that showed up would have not memorized even one thing, and what
kind of meeting can be made out of that?

Glad to have found a community on the web that can be some real community and
accountability for me on this.

-Meg

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Sent: Feb 14, 2005 2:32 PM
To: biblememory()memoryverses.org
Subject: BibleMem: Scripture memory

New web site: www.scripturememorychallenge.org

Memorizing and Loving it

Dear memorizing friends,

Hi.  My name is Phil Walker.  I have been a member for a couple years now and
always enjoy reading how God is at work in your lives in the area of Scripture
memory.

My most recent memorized chapters are ISAIAH 53 (25 of us at Upton Lake
Christian School in Clinton Corners, NY memorized this as a school project) and
ISAIAH 6 (in joining one of my students who decided on his own to memorize
this.)  Both have long been on my "someday" list, and it was a thrill to get
them.  The majesty of God (6) and the glorious suffering of Christ (53) have
given me some wonderful things to meditate on.

I would like to encourage you to visit my website
www.scripturememorychallenge.org  The main feature is the New Testament One Year
Challenge where I hope, Lord willing, to soon have thousands of Christians
around the world memorizing one key verse from every chapter of the New
Testament in a year.  We also have HAKOTS - Hearts After Key Old Testament
Scripture - who are doing the same with the OT.  I would love any help any of
you could give me in spreading the word about the New Testament One Year
Challenge (new groups start every Sept and Jan 1st.) to those you know who might
be interested as well as those of you who have websites who would be willing to
link to www.scripturememorychallenge.org

Finally, I would like to encourage you to consider church Scripture memory.
I approached the pastor a year ago and he supported the idea.  He picks the
passage and we go at a very slow pace.  In 2004 we only learned 5 short passages
(Ex 34:5-7, 19:5-6, Rom 5:6-8, Ps 63:1-4, and Is 9:6-7)  At times it has been
frustrating.  After the initial novelty of the idea got 38 (out of about 120
church attenders) to learn the first passage, it dropped quickly with less than
20 having learned the last two.

To begin this new year, the pastor wanted to start with just ACTS 1:8.  I
thought that was pretty wimpy, but went along.  It has been truly wonderful to
see people struggle intensly with, but finally memorize that one verse.
We are at 48 who have quoted it.  I am praying that God will make the truth of
ACTS 1:8 real in our church  It has also been eye-opening to realize that many
in the church are convinced that they can not possibly memorize that one verse,
or at least it is not worth the enormous effort.  Can I encourage you to think
about starting a church wide Scripture memory program in your church as we help
our "Christian" culture know and appreciate what our God has to say.

In Christ, your fellow servant and Scripture enthusiast, Phil Walker

phil()scripturememorychallenge.org

PS  With help from a local pizza shop who let me have
$15 gift certificates at a reduced price, we got 11 church members to quote from
memory all 5 of the 2004 passages in one sitting.  Praise God!!


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Hello,

I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any messages until
now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses memorized. However, with a full
course load at University and my part-time job, I can no longer put in the same
amount of time for memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to
recalling those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3
verses a day until I memorize the book of Romans.

What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find that if I
memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved person for
example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it leaves me to
translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering if I should memorize
from NKJV or even NASB.

Glad to see this is up and running again! This means I have to start memorizing
soon.

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Hi,

It was good to hear from you!

How often do you review the Sermon on the Mount? I have been reviewing Matthew
5-7 about once a week, but I am still rusty on it. I hope to eventually get it
better.

Sincerely,
Lavern Gingerich
lavern()pursuinglife.com
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Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:31 PM
To: biblememory()memoryverses.org
Subject: BibleMem: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator



Rev. David C. Huff
Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church
285 Main Street
Lilburn, GA  30047
770-921-1220 Ext. 240
dhuff()firstbaptist.net


-----Original Message-----
From: Huff, David
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM
To: 'Bible Memory List'
Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator

Everyone:

Good to see the list active again!  I began memorizing large passages about
2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit
into my life since then.  My best review time is during the morning "shower
and dress" routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of
anything (except possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-).

I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation
have brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming
spiritual discipline I have ever pursued!  I lead a men's
mentoring/discipleship ministry in our church, and we are using Scripture
memory with some wonderful results!!

The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5
-7), and it still remains my favorite.  I've also worked my way through
James and I John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with
a number of shorter Psalms.  Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge -
Psalm 119.

Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility
-- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me
to memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own.  Some weeks I
accomplish more than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to
APPLY what I'm learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and
disciplines -- me.

It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!!  I look forward to
hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm
119:11.

In Christ,
David

Rev. David C. Huff
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Greetings,

It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture
Memory Email Discussion List.  During the last several months I have been
tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work.  (My father
passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work).
So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.

Now however, I would like to get things going again ...

>  If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with  the words
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Memorizing Scripture.

How is everybody doing?

What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?

What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing
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Hello!

 

Do you know of any audio Bible that has each verse (or several verses) on a
separate track?

 

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Everyone:

Good to see the list active again!  I began memorizing large passages about
2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit into my
life since then.  My best review time is during the morning "shower and dress"
routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of anything (except
possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-).

I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation have
brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming spiritual
discipline I have ever pursued!  I lead a men's mentoring/discipleship ministry
in our church, and we are using Scripture memory with some wonderful results!!

The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5 -7),
and it still remains my favorite.  I've also worked my way through James and I
John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with a number of
shorter Psalms.  Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge - Psalm 119.

Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility
-- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me to
memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own.  Some weeks I accomplish more
than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to APPLY what I'm
learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and disciplines -- me.

It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!!  I look forward to
hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm 119:11.

In Christ,
David

Rev. David C. Huff
Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church
285 Main Street
Lilburn, GA  30047
770-921-1220 Ext. 240
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Greetings,

It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture
Memory Email Discussion List.  During the last several months I have been
tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work.  (My father
passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work).
So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.

Now however, I would like to get things going again ...

>  If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with  the words
> "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top  of the body of the
> message.

I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of
Memorizing Scripture.

How is everybody doing?

What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?

What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing
scripture had on your relationship with God and others?


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Boy, it's GREAT to see this board active again!! :) Let me reintroduce myself.
My name is Beth.

I've been memorizing the Word for quite a while, and as of late, have discovered
Scripture Songs to help me. When memorizing chapters, I not only read it over
and over, but listen to it on cd over and over. Hearing it really helps somehow.

The Bible Version Question: I admire those of you have have picked a translation
and only memorize out of that. Among other things, if the reference is someday
forgotten, it makes it a lot easier to know *which* concordance to look in for
the verse. :)

Over the years I have memorized out of the KJV, the NKJV, the NIV, the NASB and
the ESV. It makes my brain a Hines of sorts! This past year, I have used mainly
the ESV and KJV. KJV - mostly in Psalms. There's something about memorizing the
Psalms in the KJV. That is mostly for my own enjoyment and use. Most verses that
can be used to witness I use the ESV for. The ESV is also helpful for chapters
worth of text. After several verses, the KJ sentence structure usually trips up
my memorization.
The ESV is a conservative revision of the RSV - Came out in 2001. . It is
strong, poetic and accurate.  You can read about the translation philosophy etc
here : http://www.gnpcb.org/home/esv I hope that that was my last "switch" I'll
have, BUT it is truly God's Spirit that brings His Words to life, no matter what
translation one memorizes out of.

The greatest thing about memorizing to me has been how its helped my daily
fellowship with God, and how He has used it to speak to me throughout the day,
and reveal His truths.

Ya'll have challenged me to step up my memorizations.
I have enjoyed all your introductions and am so pleased to be on this list!

in Him
Beth


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Hi!
How are you?
As for which version to memorize, I do the NKJV.  Sometimes I wish I had started
out using NIV, because it's the most popular among Chritians I know, besides the
KJV.
I read in a couple of places that the main thing is to not try to memorize
different passages from different versions.  They said b/c you'll get used to
the usual word orders, style and vocabulary one and then your brain will try to
impose that on the other version and just wind up confusing yourself and making
precision more difficult.
I think that if you want to switch versions, now's the time, since you're
starting up again.
Personally, I think it's a good idea to use a version that is easily understood
today.  Being in more contemporary language doesn't mean being watered down.
Think of people in the 17th and 18th centuries.  For them, the KJV was
contemporary, and controversial.  It wasn't Latin, or the original Greek and
Hebrew!  That upset a lot of people.  Some people today get upset about
contemporary translations.  It's the same old debate.  If you're in conflict
over this, or someone is telling you only the KJV is trustworthy, I definitely
recommend a book called "The King James Only Controversy."  It could help you
clear things up.
Much love in Christ!
-Meg

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Hello,

I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any messages until
now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses memorized. However, with a full
course load at University and my part-time job, I can no longer put in the same
amount of time for memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to
recalling those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3
verses a day until I memorize the book of Romans.

What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find that if I
memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved person for
example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it leaves me to
translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering if I should memorize
from NKJV or even NASB.

Glad to see this is up and running again! This means I have to start memorizing
soon.

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Greetings!

I am so glad to hear that you are memorizing Romans! I am doing the same and am
in chapter 8 now. (You may read more about my Bible memory project on my site at
www.pursuinglife.com). I hope to get finished with Romans around June 2005.

I memorize in KJV, and I love that version. Yet I have questioned whether it's
the best version to memorize. Maybe I should memorize from a version that's
written in a style we can understand easier. I have a friend that prefers the
New King James version, because it's better for modern readers yet based on the
KJV.

May God bless you all! I am so blessed to be on this list. It's great. Keep 'em
coming!

Sincerely,
Lavern Gingerich
www.pursuinglife.com

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Hello,

I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any messages until
now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses memorized. However, with a full
course load at University and my part-time job, I can no longer put in the same
amount of time for memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to
recalling those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3
verses a day until I memorize the book of Romans.

What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find that if I
memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved person for
example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it leaves me to
translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering if I should memorize
from NKJV or even NASB.

Glad to see this is up and running again! This means I have to start memorizing
soon.

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Hello Lavern,

I've often wondered the same thing. Wouldn't it be just great to have that?
Unfortunately, I don't think anyone has had the time to cut audio bible's into
verse tracks. It would take an extremely long amount of human processing time.
I've always wanted to find something like that, so I could take all the verses I
memorized scattered throughout the Bible and place them on CD. Plus, I doubt a
CD player would be able to support anything like
100+ tracks on one CD.

In Christ,
Marcin Samiec
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>
>
>
> Do you know of any audio Bible that has each verse (or several verses)
> on a separate track?
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Lavern Gingerich
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Dear Rev. David,
 
I found it encouraging to read that you are memorizing the 119th Psalm.  I am
working on that as well, though it seems to be going slowly.  I am taking a
break from it until after Easter, as I am working on a different memorization
project for the season.  How far have you made it?  Everytime I read this
chapter I am amazed at what I see about how precious the Word of God is - how it
has been given to use for our benefit, and how much of God Himself is revealed. 
I am awed each time.
 
It was good to see that you are from Georgia.  I was born in Tenn., and surely
wish that you could right with a southern drawl.  Since I moved to Missouri I
have been teased a great deal about my drawl, but I really miss hearing it from
others.  That seems rather odd in a way, Greek and Hebrew text, translated into
formal english, which I speak with a southern drawl. Oh, well, God loves
variety, He has made that obvious!
 
I will be praying for your completion of this project.  I really wish things
were different in my life right now - I am unable to attend church, and have not
been able to for several years because of family problems.  However, I believe
God is using this time to teach me many things, including discipline in prayer
and study of His word.  I pray that someday circumstances will change, that I
may be able to again belong to a church and be active - I miss that more than I
can say.  But until then, I have been forced to look to God alone for my
discipleship.  It is scary at times, not that I do not trust that He can and
does disciple me, but I fear I may be misunderstanding Him on occasion.
 
Anyway, I will be supporting you in prayer, and I am confident that God is going
to bless your efforts.
 
"Proverbs 16:1 "The preparations of the heart belong to man, but the answer of
the tongue is form the LORD."

Denna

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Rev. David C. Huff
Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church
285 Main Street
Lilburn, GA 30047
770-921-1220 Ext. 240
dhuff()firstbaptist.net


-----Original Message-----
From: Huff, David
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM
To: 'Bible Memory List'
Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator

Everyone:

Good to see the list active again! I began memorizing large passages about
2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit into my
life since then. My best review time is during the morning "shower and dress"
routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of anything (except
possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-).

I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation have
brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming spiritual
discipline I have ever pursued! I lead a men's mentoring/discipleship ministry
in our church, and we are using Scripture memory with some wonderful results!!

The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5 -7),
and it still remains my favorite. I've also worked my way through James and I
John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with a number of
shorter Psalms. Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge - Psalm 119.

Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility
-- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me to
memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own. Some weeks I accomplish more
than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to APPLY what I'm
learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and disciplines -- me.

It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!! I look forward to
hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm 119:11.

In Christ,
David

Rev. David C. Huff
Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church
285 Main Street
Lilburn, GA 30047
770-921-1220 Ext. 240
dhuff()firstbaptist.net


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Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:16 PM
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Subject: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator

Greetings,

It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture
Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending
to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away,
a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work).
So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.

Now however, I would like to get things going again ...

> If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with the words
> "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top of the body of the
> message.

I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of
Memorizing Scripture.

How is everybody doing?

What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?

What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing
scripture had on your relationship with God and others?


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Sue:

Congratulations on memorizing Philippians! That must be a blessing!

Sincerely,
Lavern Gingerich
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Dear Tom,
I just finished Philippians this week.  It took me almost two years due to my
lack of consistent study, but I believe I have it for life.  One thing that is
helpful is to absolutely love that book, which I do.  I did some of the self
tests in the Scripture Memory 3  program, old-fashioned study on paper, and I
listen to it at least twice a day in my car.  I suggest putting it on CD with
lots of breaks so you can keep playing one section until you have it.  I also
recommend studying it on paper or computer before trying to learn by listening.
Listening is a good practice and review, but not a good way for me to learn from
scratch.  May the Lord keep you excited about that precious book until it is
part of your long-term memory (the advantage of taking forever to learn
something is that you remember it longer).
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Hello,

I prayed it over and it looks like I'll stay with KJV. I've considered the NASB,
LITV, and the NKJV. I've memorized the book of Jude in one week with the KJV
when I was at Poland two summers ago, and I love the style of writing. BTW, I've
chosen to take up Colossians before I tackle something like Romans. I just
remembered it has 16 chapters -- looks a bit too tall for me to tackle right
away. At the height of my memorization streak a while back, I would be able to
memorize 12 verses in one day while working slow shifts in the fitting room at
work. With prayer and training I plan to get myself to memorize that much again.

Blessings,
Marcin Samiec

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:27:51 -0500, Bible Memory List
 wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> I am so glad to hear that you are memorizing Romans! I am doing the
> same and am in chapter 8 now. (You may read more about my Bible memory
> project on my site at www.pursuinglife.com). I hope to get finished
> with Romans around June 2005.
>
> I memorize in KJV, and I love that version. Yet I have questioned
> whether it's the best version to memorize. Maybe I should memorize
> from a version that's written in a style we can understand easier. I
> have a friend that prefers the New King James version, because it's
> better for modern readers yet based on the KJV.
>
> May God bless you all! I am so blessed to be on this list. It's great.
> Keep 'em coming!
>
> Sincerely,
> Lavern Gingerich
> www.pursuinglife.com
>
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> From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org]
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:31 PM
> To: biblememory()memoryverses.org
> Subject: BibleMem: which version?
>
> Hello,
>
> I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any
> messages until now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses
> memorized. However, with a full course load at University and my
> part-time job, I can no longer put in the same amount of time for
> memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to recalling
> those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3
> verses a
day until I memorize the book of Romans.
>
> What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find
> that if I memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved
> person for
> example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it
> leaves me to translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering
> if I should memorize from NKJV or even NASB.
>
> Glad to see this is up and running again! This means I have to start
> memorizing soon.
>
> --
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> http://marcin.samiec.info
>
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Dear Marcin,
That is the very reason I began using only the NKJV for memory work.  I had
memorized in various versions, and finally recognized the need to use just one -
I could not always remember which version I memorized which verse from, which
made review difficult.
 
It sounds as if you are already off to a wonderful start.  Keep on going in the
LORD, and I am sure He will bless your efforts.
 
Denna

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Hello,

I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any messages until
now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses memorized. However, with a full
course load at University and my part-time job, I can no longer put in the same
amount of time for memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to
recalling those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3
verses a day until I memorize the book of Romans.

What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find that if I
memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved person for
example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it leaves me to
translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering if I should memorize
from NKJV or even NASB.

Glad to see this is up and running again! This means I have to start memorizing
soon.

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Hi Lavern!

In my current review "system", which seems to work pretty well for me, I review
the Sermon On The Mount every third day, along with a couple of other passages.
As time goes by, that may decrease to about once a week or so, as I learn
(hopefully :-) more Scripture.  Like I mentioned, this was the 1st large passage
I tried, so it's a favorite and especially dear to my heart.
Since it's almost entirely the words of Jesus, it feels especially personal to
me.

By the way, I visited your website -- very nicely done!!

David H.

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Hi,

It was good to hear from you!

How often do you review the Sermon on the Mount? I have been reviewing Matthew
5-7 about once a week, but I am still rusty on it. I hope to eventually get it
better.

Sincerely,
Lavern Gingerich
lavern()pursuinglife.com
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Rev. David C. Huff
Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church
285 Main Street
Lilburn, GA  30047
770-921-1220 Ext. 240
dhuff()firstbaptist.net


-----Original Message-----
From: Huff, David
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM
To: 'Bible Memory List'
Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator

Everyone:

Good to see the list active again!  I began memorizing large passages about
2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit into my
life since then.  My best review time is during the morning "shower and dress"
routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of anything (except
possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-).

I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation have
brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming spiritual
discipline I have ever pursued!  I lead a men's mentoring/discipleship ministry
in our church, and we are using Scripture memory with some wonderful results!!

The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5 -7),
and it still remains my favorite.  I've also worked my way through James and I
John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with a number of
shorter Psalms.  Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge - Psalm 119.

Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility
-- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me to
memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own.  Some weeks I accomplish more
than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to APPLY what I'm
learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and disciplines -- me.

It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!!  I look forward to
hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm 119:11.

In Christ,
David

Rev. David C. Huff
Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church
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Greetings,

It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture
Memory Email Discussion List.  During the last several months I have been
tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work.  (My father
passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work).
So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.

Now however, I would like to get things going again ...

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What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing
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Hi,

It was good to hear from you!

How often do you review the Sermon on the Mount? I have been reviewing Matthew
5-7 about once a week, but I am still rusty on it. I hope to eventually get it
better.

Sincerely,
Lavern Gingerich
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Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM
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Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator

Everyone:

Good to see the list active again!  I began memorizing large passages about
2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit
into my life since then.  My best review time is during the morning "shower
and dress" routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of
anything (except possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-).

I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation
have brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming
spiritual discipline I have ever pursued!  I lead a men's
mentoring/discipleship ministry in our church, and we are using Scripture
memory with some wonderful results!!

The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5
-7), and it still remains my favorite.  I've also worked my way through
James and I John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with
a number of shorter Psalms.  Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge -
Psalm 119.

Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility
-- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me
to memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own.  Some weeks I
accomplish more than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to
APPLY what I'm learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and
disciplines -- me.

It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!!  I look forward to
hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm
119:11.

In Christ,
David

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Greetings,

It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture
Memory Email Discussion List.  During the last several months I have been
tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work.  (My father
passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work).
So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.

Now however, I would like to get things going again ...

>  If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with  the words
> "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top  of the body of the
> message.

I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of
Memorizing Scripture.

How is everybody doing?

What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?

What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing
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Hello!

 

Do you know of any audio Bible that has each verse (or several verses) on a
separate track?

 

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Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM
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Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator

Everyone:

Good to see the list active again!  I began memorizing large passages about
2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit into my
life since then.  My best review time is during the morning "shower and dress"
routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of anything (except
possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-).

I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation have
brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming spiritual
discipline I have ever pursued!  I lead a men's mentoring/discipleship ministry
in our church, and we are using Scripture memory with some wonderful results!!

The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5 -7),
and it still remains my favorite.  I've also worked my way through James and I
John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with a number of
shorter Psalms.  Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge - Psalm 119.

Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility
-- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me to
memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own.  Some weeks I accomplish more
than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to APPLY what I'm
learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and disciplines -- me.

It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!!  I look forward to
hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm 119:11.

In Christ,
David

Rev. David C. Huff
Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church
285 Main Street
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770-921-1220 Ext. 240
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Greetings,

It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture
Memory Email Discussion List.  During the last several months I have been
tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work.  (My father
passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work).
So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.

Now however, I would like to get things going again ...

>  If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with  the words
> "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top  of the body of the
> message.

I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of
Memorizing Scripture.

How is everybody doing?

What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?

What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing
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Boy, it's GREAT to see this board active again!! :) Let me reintroduce myself.
My name is Beth.

I've been memorizing the Word for quite a while, and as of late, have discovered
Scripture Songs to help me. When memorizing chapters, I not only read it over
and over, but listen to it on cd over and over. Hearing it really helps somehow.

The Bible Version Question: I admire those of you have have picked a translation
and only memorize out of that. Among other things, if the reference is someday
forgotten, it makes it a lot easier to know *which* concordance to look in for
the verse. :)

Over the years I have memorized out of the KJV, the NKJV, the NIV, the NASB and
the ESV. It makes my brain a Hines of sorts! This past year, I have used mainly
the ESV and KJV. KJV - mostly in Psalms. There's something about memorizing the
Psalms in the KJV. That is mostly for my own enjoyment and use. Most verses that
can be used to witness I use the ESV for. The ESV is also helpful for chapters
worth of text. After several verses, the KJ sentence structure usually trips up
my memorization.
The ESV is a conservative revision of the RSV - Came out in 2001. . It is
strong, poetic and accurate.  You can read about the translation philosophy etc
here : http://www.gnpcb.org/home/esv I hope that that was my last "switch" I'll
have, BUT it is truly God's Spirit that brings His Words to life, no matter what
translation one memorizes out of.

The greatest thing about memorizing to me has been how its helped my daily
fellowship with God, and how He has used it to speak to me throughout the day,
and reveal His truths.

Ya'll have challenged me to step up my memorizations.
I have enjoyed all your introductions and am so pleased to be on this list!

in Him
Beth


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Hi!
How are you?
As for which version to memorize, I do the NKJV.  Sometimes I wish I had started
out using NIV, because it's the most popular among Chritians I know, besides the
KJV.
I read in a couple of places that the main thing is to not try to memorize
different passages from different versions.  They said b/c you'll get used to
the usual word orders, style and vocabulary one and then your brain will try to
impose that on the other version and just wind up confusing yourself and making
precision more difficult.
I think that if you want to switch versions, now's the time, since you're
starting up again.
Personally, I think it's a good idea to use a version that is easily understood
today.  Being in more contemporary language doesn't mean being watered down.
Think of people in the 17th and 18th centuries.  For them, the KJV was
contemporary, and controversial.  It wasn't Latin, or the original Greek and
Hebrew!  That upset a lot of people.  Some people today get upset about
contemporary translations.  It's the same old debate.  If you're in conflict
over this, or someone is telling you only the KJV is trustworthy, I definitely
recommend a book called "The King James Only Controversy."  It could help you
clear things up.
Much love in Christ!
-Meg

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Hello,

I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any messages until
now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses memorized. However, with a full
course load at University and my part-time job, I can no longer put in the same
amount of time for memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to
recalling those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3
verses a day until I memorize the book of Romans.

What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find that if I
memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved person for
example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it leaves me to
translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering if I should memorize
from NKJV or even NASB.

Glad to see this is up and running again! This means I have to start memorizing
soon.

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Greetings!

I am so glad to hear that you are memorizing Romans! I am doing the same and am
in chapter 8 now. (You may read more about my Bible memory project on my site at
www.pursuinglife.com). I hope to get finished with Romans around June 2005.

I memorize in KJV, and I love that version. Yet I have questioned whether it's
the best version to memorize. Maybe I should memorize from a version that's
written in a style we can understand easier. I have a friend that prefers the
New King James version, because it's better for modern readers yet based on the
KJV.

May God bless you all! I am so blessed to be on this list. It's great. Keep 'em
coming!

Sincerely,
Lavern Gingerich
www.pursuinglife.com

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Hello,

I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any messages until
now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses memorized. However, with a full
course load at University and my part-time job, I can no longer put in the same
amount of time for memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to
recalling those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3
verses a day until I memorize the book of Romans.

What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find that if I
memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved person for
example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it leaves me to
translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering if I should memorize
from NKJV or even NASB.

Glad to see this is up and running again! This means I have to start memorizing
soon.

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Hello Lavern,

I've often wondered the same thing. Wouldn't it be just great to have that?
Unfortunately, I don't think anyone has had the time to cut audio bible's into
verse tracks. It would take an extremely long amount of human processing time.
I've always wanted to find something like that, so I could take all the verses I
memorized scattered throughout the Bible and place them on CD. Plus, I doubt a
CD player would be able to support anything like
100+ tracks on one CD.

In Christ,
Marcin Samiec
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>
>
>
> Do you know of any audio Bible that has each verse (or several verses)
> on a separate track?
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Lavern Gingerich
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What you're saying is good to hear and touches my heart.  There are so many
things we can hide behind to get away from actually having a relationship with
Christ.  I visited a nearby church and something in their Sunday School book
really touched me.  It talked about increasing our knowledge of God and doctrine
and Christianity, and pointed out that increasing knowledge is just knowledge
and ultimately no good if we are not getting closer to Christ, not just closer
to knowing more about Him, closer to Him.
You know, I know that is such a simple concept, and I've "known" it for years,
but it really touched me.  Hey, I read books, I know stuff, I like theology, I
like apologetics, but where am I with Jesus?  Really, where am I?
definitely, Bible memory is important to me for connecting to God in my
relationship with Him.  At first it kind of was and it was also kind of "I'm
smart.  Look what I can do."  I am forever trying to get over myself.  If there
was one thing I could crucify once and for all, and not a thousand times a day,
it would be pride.  I hate how it just bubbles up out of "nowhere," which we
know is actually the heart.
Anyhow, I meditate on a scripture before I do all the routine of putting it into
my brain, and also meditate on it while memorizing it.  that is very special to
me and definitely draws me closer to God.  Like you said, it also inspires
change.  I am always thinking of the Word as a mirror.  We see what we truly are
when we look into it.
God bless you, and your family in your homechooling efforts.  I was
homeschooled.  I'm married now and have no children of my own yet.
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Dear Rev. David,
 
I found it encouraging to read that you are memorizing the 119th Psalm.  I am
working on that as well, though it seems to be going slowly.  I am taking a
break from it until after Easter, as I am working on a different memorization
project for the season.  How far have you made it?  Everytime I read this
chapter I am amazed at what I see about how precious the Word of God is - how it
has been given to use for our benefit, and how much of God Himself is revealed. 
I am awed each time.
 
It was good to see that you are from Georgia.  I was born in Tenn., and surely
wish that you could right with a southern drawl.  Since I moved to Missouri I
have been teased a great deal about my drawl, but I really miss hearing it from
others.  That seems rather odd in a way, Greek and Hebrew text, translated into
formal english, which I speak with a southern drawl. Oh, well, God loves
variety, He has made that obvious!
 
I will be praying for your completion of this project.  I really wish things
were different in my life right now - I am unable to attend church, and have not
been able to for several years because of family problems.  However, I believe
God is using this time to teach me many things, including discipline in prayer
and study of His word.  I pray that someday circumstances will change, that I
may be able to again belong to a church and be active - I miss that more than I
can say.  But until then, I have been forced to look to God alone for my
discipleship.  It is scary at times, not that I do not trust that He can and
does disciple me, but I fear I may be misunderstanding Him on occasion.
 
Anyway, I will be supporting you in prayer, and I am confident that God is going
to bless your efforts.
 
"Proverbs 16:1 "The preparations of the heart belong to man, but the answer of
the tongue is form the LORD."

Denna

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From: Huff, David
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM
To: 'Bible Memory List'
Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator

Everyone:

Good to see the list active again! I began memorizing large passages about
2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit into my
life since then. My best review time is during the morning "shower and dress"
routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of anything (except
possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-).

I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation have
brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming spiritual
discipline I have ever pursued! I lead a men's mentoring/discipleship ministry
in our church, and we are using Scripture memory with some wonderful results!!

The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5 -7),
and it still remains my favorite. I've also worked my way through James and I
John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with a number of
shorter Psalms. Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge - Psalm 119.

Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility
-- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me to
memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own. Some weeks I accomplish more
than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to APPLY what I'm
learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and disciplines -- me.

It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!! I look forward to
hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm 119:11.

In Christ,
David

Rev. David C. Huff
Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church
285 Main Street
Lilburn, GA 30047
770-921-1220 Ext. 240
dhuff()firstbaptist.net


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Subject: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator

Greetings,

It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture
Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending
to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away,
a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work).
So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.

Now however, I would like to get things going again ...

> If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with the words
> "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top of the body of the
> message.

I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of
Memorizing Scripture.

How is everybody doing?

What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?

What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing
scripture had on your relationship with God and others?


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Sue:

Congratulations on memorizing Philippians! That must be a blessing!

Sincerely,
Lavern Gingerich
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Dear Tom,
I just finished Philippians this week.  It took me almost two years due to my
lack of consistent study, but I believe I have it for life.  One thing that is
helpful is to absolutely love that book, which I do.  I did some of the self
tests in the Scripture Memory 3  program, old-fashioned study on paper, and I
listen to it at least twice a day in my car.  I suggest putting it on CD with
lots of breaks so you can keep playing one section until you have it.  I also
recommend studying it on paper or computer before trying to learn by listening.
Listening is a good practice and review, but not a good way for me to learn from
scratch.  May the Lord keep you excited about that precious book until it is
part of your long-term memory (the advantage of taking forever to learn
something is that you remember it longer).
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Hello,

I prayed it over and it looks like I'll stay with KJV. I've considered the NASB,
LITV, and the NKJV. I've memorized the book of Jude in one week with the KJV
when I was at Poland two summers ago, and I love the style of writing. BTW, I've
chosen to take up Colossians before I tackle something like Romans. I just
remembered it has 16 chapters -- looks a bit too tall for me to tackle right
away. At the height of my memorization streak a while back, I would be able to
memorize 12 verses in one day while working slow shifts in the fitting room at
work. With prayer and training I plan to get myself to memorize that much again.

Blessings,
Marcin Samiec

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:27:51 -0500, Bible Memory List
 wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> I am so glad to hear that you are memorizing Romans! I am doing the
> same and am in chapter 8 now. (You may read more about my Bible memory
> project on my site at www.pursuinglife.com). I hope to get finished
> with Romans around June 2005.
>
> I memorize in KJV, and I love that version. Yet I have questioned
> whether it's the best version to memorize. Maybe I should memorize
> from a version that's written in a style we can understand easier. I
> have a friend that prefers the New King James version, because it's
> better for modern readers yet based on the KJV.
>
> May God bless you all! I am so blessed to be on this list. It's great.
> Keep 'em coming!
>
> Sincerely,
> Lavern Gingerich
> www.pursuinglife.com
>
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> From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org]
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:31 PM
> To: biblememory()memoryverses.org
> Subject: BibleMem: which version?
>
> Hello,
>
> I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any
> messages until now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses
> memorized. However, with a full course load at University and my
> part-time job, I can no longer put in the same amount of time for
> memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to recalling
> those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3
> verses a
day until I memorize the book of Romans.
>
> What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find
> that if I memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved
> person for
> example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it
> leaves me to translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering
> if I should memorize from NKJV or even NASB.
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Dear Marcin,
That is the very reason I began using only the NKJV for memory work.  I had
memorized in various versions, and finally recognized the need to use just one -
I could not always remember which version I memorized which verse from, which
made review difficult.
 
It sounds as if you are already off to a wonderful start.  Keep on going in the
LORD, and I am sure He will bless your efforts.
 
Denna

Bible Memory List   wrote:

Hello,

I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any messages until
now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses memorized. However, with a full
course load at University and my part-time job, I can no longer put in the same
amount of time for memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to
recalling those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3
verses a day until I memorize the book of Romans.

What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find that if I
memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved person for
example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it leaves me to
translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering if I should memorize
from NKJV or even NASB.

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Hi Lavern!

In my current review "system", which seems to work pretty well for me, I review
the Sermon On The Mount every third day, along with a couple of other passages.
As time goes by, that may decrease to about once a week or so, as I learn
(hopefully :-) more Scripture.  Like I mentioned, this was the 1st large passage
I tried, so it's a favorite and especially dear to my heart.
Since it's almost entirely the words of Jesus, it feels especially personal to
me.

By the way, I visited your website -- very nicely done!!

David H.

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Hi,

It was good to hear from you!

How often do you review the Sermon on the Mount? I have been reviewing Matthew
5-7 about once a week, but I am still rusty on it. I hope to eventually get it
better.

Sincerely,
Lavern Gingerich
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Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM
To: 'Bible Memory List'
Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator

Everyone:

Good to see the list active again!  I began memorizing large passages about
2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit into my
life since then.  My best review time is during the morning "shower and dress"
routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of anything (except
possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-).

I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation have
brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming spiritual
discipline I have ever pursued!  I lead a men's mentoring/discipleship ministry
in our church, and we are using Scripture memory with some wonderful results!!

The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5 -7),
and it still remains my favorite.  I've also worked my way through James and I
John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with a number of
shorter Psalms.  Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge - Psalm 119.

Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility
-- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me to
memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own.  Some weeks I accomplish more
than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to APPLY what I'm
learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and disciplines -- me.

It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!!  I look forward to
hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm 119:11.

In Christ,
David

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Greetings,

It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture
Memory Email Discussion List.  During the last several months I have been
tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work.  (My father
passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work).
So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.

Now however, I would like to get things going again ...

>  If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with  the words
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I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of
Memorizing Scripture.

How is everybody doing?

What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?

What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing
scripture had on your relationship with God and others?


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Hello, everyone!
First of all, I'd like to say that it really touched my heart to hear your
stories of others in your family starting Bible memory because God used your
example.  That is so cool.  I hope I will be that example for someone someday
and they'll say, "I can do this too."
Anyhow, here's my idea-  I know cassete players are like, old as fossils, but
I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a passage onto tape to play it
back for help in memorizing and review.  I know I could probably do the same
thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, and I might, but I'll have to
get my husband's help for that.  Never messed around with that before.
Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea?
I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, and I think
I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review.
Thanks,
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Hello, everyone!
First of all, I'd like to say that it really touched my heart to hear your
stories of others in your family starting Bible memory because God used your
example.  That is so cool.  I hope I will be that example for someone someday
and they'll say, "I can do this too."
Anyhow, here's my idea-  I know cassete players are like, old as fossils, but
I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a passage onto tape to play it
back for help in memorizing and review.  I know I could probably do the same
thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, and I might, but I'll have to
get my husband's help for that.  Never messed around with that before.
Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea?
I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, and I think
I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review.
Thanks,
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Hi.

There are a lot of ways of recording verses on your computer. I use the program
called "Total Recorder" and find that it works very well and have also found
that playing it back in my own voice is helpful in memorizing and also in
meditating on the scripture. I memorize in the NASB version and was not able to
find any prerecorded verses and so I started recording my own.

I am 53 years old and over the years started memorizing Scripture a number of
times but always ended up quiting after awhile. Then 5 years ago I came across
Memlok (www.memlok.com) and started using that program and found that for me it
was the perfect way to keep track of passages and review them in a systematic
manner. I find it difficult to memorize but over that 5 year period I have been
able to memorize over 1000 verses and have hardly missed a day when I have not
spent time in memorizing, meditating and reviewing.
Praise God!!

I am almost completed the whole program and when I am finished I am planning to
enter all my verses into Supermemo and then carry on memorizing using Supermemo.

As I have been reading all the posts in the past 2 weeks, there have been so
many times I read all the questions various people have had, and have said to
myself, "they need to look at memlok". So I encourage you all to go to the
memlok website and look at the program and see if might be the program that God
would have you use to memorize His Word.

After you have completed the program you will have memorized a passage from
every chapter in the New Testament and Proverbs and a passage from every book in
the Old Testament which are divided into 48 different topics with approximately
12 verses in each topic.

God bless you all.

Harold



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> play it back for help in memorizing and review.  I know I could
> probably do the same thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer,
> and I might, but I'll have to get my husband's help for that.  Never
> messed around with that before.
> Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea?
> I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages,
> and I think I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review.
> Thanks,
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Hi.

There are a lot of ways of recording verses on your computer. I use the program
called "Total Recorder" and find that it works very well and have also found
that playing it back in my own voice is helpful in memorizing and also in
meditating on the scripture. I memorize in the NASB version and was not able to
find any prerecorded verses and so I started recording my own.

I am 53 years old and over the years started memorizing Scripture a number of
times but always ended up quiting after awhile. Then 5 years ago I came across
Memlok (www.memlok.com) and started using that program and found that for me it
was the perfect way to keep track of passages and review them in a systematic
manner. I find it difficult to memorize but over that 5 year period I have been
able to memorize over 1000 verses and have hardly missed a day when I have not
spent time in memorizing, meditating and reviewing.
Praise God!!

I am almost completed the whole program and when I am finished I am planning to
enter all my verses into Supermemo and then carry on memorizing using Supermemo.

As I have been reading all the posts in the past 2 weeks, there have been so
many times I read all the questions various people have had, and have said to
myself, "they need to look at memlok". So I encourage you all to go to the
memlok website and look at the program and see if might be the program that God
would have you use to memorize His Word.

After you have completed the program you will have memorized a passage from
every chapter in the New Testament and Proverbs and a passage from every book in
the Old Testament which are divided into 48 different topics with approximately
12 verses in each topic.

God bless you all.

Harold



,but I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a
> passage onto tape to
> play it back for help in memorizing and review.  I know I could
> probably do the same thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer,
> and I might, but I'll have to get my husband's help for that.  Never
> messed around with that before.
> Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea?
> I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages,
> and I think I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review.
> Thanks,
> Meg
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I gotta jump in here... I've been a member of this thing forever but never said
much and quite frankly put memorizing scriptures on the back burner...
Could make it a long boring story but suffice it to say that the Lord took me
through a period of depression (sorry if I sound like a jerk but I thought
depression was for women).  A VERY STRONG DEPRESSION that lasted until the Lord
got through to my thick skull.  He showed me that I needed to get in the word,
that I needed a bunch of bibles everywhere I sit down so that when I get a few
minutes there is always a bible nearby.  It's a pretty strong testimony in all
the detail but anyway, the depression lifted and He had me start memorizing.
Since I'm a member of a hard rock Christian band (we're waiting for the singer
that God has in mind) I have lotsa recording equipment.  I started recording
myself speaking memory verses (NASB) and then converting the wav files to mp3's.
 I ask for a car stereo for my birthday from my lovely wife that would play
mp3's as you can fit the entire bible on just a few cd's.
   I group the verses in bunches of three and the sony player enables me to
repeat track or repeat album (which is just a directory that the mp3's are
grouped in).  This gives me complete control over the structure of the cd.
Then after I learn 5 groups of 3 I place all those in a folder for review and
keep building the number of scriptures on the cd.  It's not all perfected yet,
but it's working.  In only about 2 months I've memorized 30 verses (actually 38
since some of the verses are more than a single verse; for example Psalms 1:1-3
I generally count as one verse).  When you do it yourself you can pick the
scriptures you want, you can group them the way you want and memorize easily as
you drive to work and back.
   I wouldn't mind helping some of you but would be concerned about the
copyright issue with the NASB...   Anyway just thought I'd throw some info
into the mix and if you have any questions I'll try to answer them.   Not to
bore you but when I got saved (1989) I found a little business card holder like
thing at a gas station (it was laying on the blacktop) while filling up that had
a bunch of bible verses in it (I was so young in the Lord that I didn't even
know what the "NASB" printed on them meant!).  I've since changed jobs twice
moved three times (once to a different state) and got married.  That little
verse holder (it's only about 2 x 3 inches) would disappear then re-appear later
and right now I'm looking at it.  When I decided to memorize I decided on the
NASB  and as I looked through the little verse holder I noticed it was NASB ....
God is awesome and will continue to work in your life to bring you to the next
level as long as you let Him...  sorry I'm so long winded, but it seems like a
lot of "coincidences" relating to me memorizing, me recording, the stream from
your group suddenly showing up in my email again.... some of what I'm saying is
valuable to someone out there...
I'm a head engineer, and a system administrator plus in my spare time I'm trying
to make a bible chart that shows the structure of entire bible in an in depth
way, and write songs... I'm really spread too thin so I don't read all the post
from this group.  I don't know how to help without getting completely
overwhelmed.  I just know God had me throw this info out there
for somebody.   Also, I converted my "Red Jeffries" cd's (I think there were
about 60) into mp3's and now the entire bible is on 7 cd's (that was a severe
pain in the butt).  Also, you can buy one that has the whole bible on two cd's
by Steve Stephens.  Very reasonably priced (I wish I knew about before I
converted all the "Red Jeffries" wav files).  If you can afford an
mp3 player for your car it's worth it.

In Him,
Rusty

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Steve Simpson (moderator) asked me to drop in a few words about MemLok.

I'm Drake Mariani...my testimony is at http://www.memlok.com/testimony.html
) and thank you Harold for bringing up MemLok to the group.

MemLok is at http://www.memlok.com I explain how God called me to this ministry
in 1989 while church planting http://www.memlok.com/history.html

Application is the key (meditation on God's Word that results in life change
which can only be done by growing closer to the living God) whether one does
passage or topics. I personally believe they are like two wings of an airplane.
Value in both. "Don't throw out the baby with the bath water"
someone said.

My focus is on the Topical approach (Again, God's call).

My experience with thousands of users is that the average Christian CAN do
individual verses for a lifetime if there are these factors:
1) meeting a need 2) with application 3) a long-term review system that doesn't
take a long time.

People can't seem to "get started". But, if I say "The wages"...they finish the
entire verse! So, MemLok has 48 topics of about 12 verses each with a visual cue
(Train for Train up; Mad bee for "Be Angry" etc)...go to
http://www.memlok.com/pc2printout.html But, hit the Site Map across the top of
any page for much more detail.

You can see the screens of this software (prints business cards and coloring
pages) at http://www.memlok.com/browse-scripture-memory-topics.html

Available in NIV, NASB, KJV and NKJ

If you are pinched financially, see http://www.memlok.com/30days.html And, I've
been known to give it away in many circumstances, though it has been Gina and my
income since 1989.

Feel free to call me anytime at home here in CA 800-373-1947. God is Good!

By the way, should you learn/apply simply one verse a week for 10 years using
MemLok, your review pile would still be 5 minutes a day and you would be keeping
up with all of them.

One from every OT book, (tons of Psalms), and at least one from every chapter of
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I am certainly very excited about joining the group.  I am a student of
Christian Ministries.  Currently I am an undergraduate student and hope to be
starting a graduates program soon. 
 
I would like to be able to memorize scripture.  I read so many books and of the
course the Bible, but I can not say that I have even 50 scriptures memorized. 
Isn't that awful?
 
So I am hoping through this program and encouragement from all of you that I can
definitely improve in this area of my Christian walk. 
 
Thanks for your support
 
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Meg,

I've done quite a bit of recording with a mic hooked up to the computer and have
also used a portable cassette player.  In the end neither was terribly useful as
I'm not an auditory learner.  But give it a shot.  My philosophy for Scripture
memory is to do whatever works for you!

In Christ,

David Baldwin
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Hello, everyone!
First of all, I'd like to say that it really touched my heart to hear your
stories of others in your family starting Bible memory because God used your
example.  That is so cool.  I hope I will be that example for someone someday
and they'll say, "I can do this too."
Anyhow, here's my idea-  I know cassete players are like, old as fossils, but
I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a passage onto tape to play it
back for help in memorizing and review.  I know I could probably do the same
thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, and I might, but I'll have to
get my husband's help for that.  Never messed around with that before.
Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea?
I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, and I think
I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review.
Thanks,
Meg

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Yes that is a great idea.  I did that with cassette tapes as well.   It worked
great.   What I did was record shorter sections of scripture, just a few verses
at a time, then record them over and over again on the same tape.  You only have
to record them once on a tape then keep playing and rewinding and record it onto
another tape if you have a machine with a dual tape deck.  You can then listen
to it while you drive back and forth to work or while you are doing household
chores.  I haven't tried it with cd's yet but maybe someone else has.

Bible Memory List   wrote:

Hello, everyone!
First of all, I'd like to say that it really touched my heart to hear your
stories of others in your family starting Bible memory because God used your
example. That is so cool. I hope I will be that example for someone someday and
they'll say, "I can do this too."
Anyhow, here's my idea- I know cassete players are like, old as fossils, but
I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a passage onto tape to play it
back for help in memorizing and review. I know I could probably do the same
thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, and I might, but I'll have to
get my husband's help for that. Never messed around with that before.
Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea?
I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, and I think
I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review.
Thanks,
Meg

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Lavern,

 the only tapes i have are subliminal of linda fehl reading proverbs and psalms
with her soothing southern voice, with ocean waves in the background.
she use to have a ministry called rapha ranch ministries, inc in de funiak
springs florida. ... what good tapes to have..i bought all of hers. here is her
personal word "my life has changed as i read 181 chapters of the bible in just
four days. the word of God entered into me in a new dimension as i saw its
consistency and came face to face with the whole counsel of God as never before.
this same effect can be yours as you play this powerful set of tapes throughout
the day; even throughout the night. there is another cd i know of thru kenneth
hagin ministries called healing scriptures you might want to check into...look
into rhema bible correspondence course and ask about it...sincerely,

David Smalley

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Subject: BibleMem: Audio Bible Question

Hello!

 

Do you know of any audio Bible that has each verse (or several verses) on a
separate track?

 

Sincerely,

Lavern Gingerich

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Where can you get total recorder, super memo and memlock?

  Don

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Hi.

There are a lot of ways of recording verses on your computer. I use the program
called "Total Recorder" and find that it works very well and have also found
that playing it back in my own voice is helpful in memorizing and also in
meditating on the scripture. I memorize in the NASB version and was not able to
find any prerecorded verses and so I started recording my own.

I am 53 years old and over the years started memorizing Scripture a number of
times but always ended up quiting after awhile. Then 5 years ago I came across
Memlok (www.memlok.com) and started using that program and found that for me it
was the perfect way to keep track of passages and review them in a systematic
manner. I find it difficult to memorize but over that 5 year period I have been
able to memorize over 1000 verses and have hardly missed a day when I have not
spent time in memorizing, meditating and reviewing.
Praise God!!

I am almost completed the whole program and when I am finished I am planning to
enter all my verses into Supermemo and then carry on memorizing using Supermemo.

As I have been reading all the posts in the past 2 weeks, there have been so
many times I read all the questions various people have had, and have said to
myself, "they need to look at memlok". So I encourage you all to go to the
memlok website and look at the program and see if might be the program that God
would have you use to memorize His Word.

After you have completed the program you will have memorized a passage from
every chapter in the New Testament and Proverbs and a passage from every book in
the Old Testament which are divided into 48 different topics with approximately
12 verses in each topic.

God bless you all.

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,but I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a
> passage onto tape to
> play it back for help in memorizing and review.  I know I could
> probably do the same thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer,
> and I might, but I'll have to get my husband's help for that.  Never
> messed around with that before.
> Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea?
> I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages,
> and I think I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review.
> Thanks,
> Meg
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Hello everyone

Some months ago I came across a book by Dallas Willard called Renovation of the
Heart. It has certainly been a transformational book for me and I would like to
share just one short passage about Bible memorization from it with this list ...

"The most obvious thing we can do is to draw certain key portions of Scripture
into our minds and make them a part of the permanent fixtures of our thought.
This is the primary discipline for the thought life. We need to know them like
the back of our hand, and a good way to do that is to memorize them and then
constantly turn them over in our minds as we go through the events and
circumstances of our life (Joshua 1:8; Psalm 1). The desired effect will not be
realized by focusing on isolated verses, but will certainly come as we ingest
passages, such as Romans 5:1-8 or 8:1-15, 1 Corinthians 13, or Colossians
3:1-17. When you take these into your mind, your mind will become filled with
the light of God himself. And light shines into darkness and darkness loses.
When the light comes into a room, we do not have to say, "Now what are we going
to do about the darkness?" It's gone! You say, "I can't memorize like that." I
assure you, you certainly can. God made your mind for it and he will help you.
He really wants you to do this. Of course that will be an integral part of the
other changes that will permeate your life as a whole. As you choose to give
your time and energy to, and plan your life around, the renovation of your mind,
it will happen.' But you must choose to do it and learn how-just like learning
to program and live with your VCR. Then you will know by experience that the
mind of the Spirit is life and peace, and in all the deflections of life your
mind will automatically re-center on God as the needle of the compass returns to
the north."

I cannot begin to match the memorization achievements of some members of this
list - I am truly astounded at what I have been reading in some of the posts
over the last few days - but I now have got Psalm 1, Psalm 23, Romans 5.1-8, 1
Corinthians 13, Colossians 3.1-7, Matthew 5.13-20, 2 Peter 1.2-11, and Isaiah
40.27-31 into my head and heart ... and what a blessing and source of
nourishment that is. Like others on the list, I use time in the car to review,
but my main learning/reviewing time is as soon as I get up on a morning and have
my first two cups of tea!

By the way, unlike most of you it seems, I live in England - in the north, in
Bradford, the home of Smith Wigglesworth!

Blessings

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I spend no more than 3 minutes a week reviewing the Sermon on the Mount.  I can
quote any portion of the Sermon on the Mount with 99% accuracy.

 

I hope the above statement has raised your interest because if you correctly
structure your review program you can do the same.

 

I utilize the principal of spaced repetitions.  Here's how it works:  I break
down a passage I want to memorize in to numerous small pieces.  For instance I
might break down the first beatitude like this:

 

... poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are the ..., for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are the poor in spirit, ... the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the ....

 

Although I use software to accomplish this (Supermemo) you could certainly just
use note cards.  In the beginning I review these items with very short
repetitions, in other words I review them everyday.  I test myself to make sure
I can mentally fill in the missing words. As time goes on I review the less
frequently, perhaps once a week and then perhaps once a month.

 

Let's say that after a period of several months the last clause written above
comes up in my review process and I miss it.  Perhaps I say "the kingdom of GOD"
instead of "the kingdom HEAVEN".  What do I do?  I restart the process of spaced
repetitions ONLY ON THE PORTION I MISSED.  There's no need for me to repeat the
other three clauses listed above as I didn't miss those.

 

The process of spaced repetitions keeps my review process very efficient and
insures that all the work on I do on Scripture memory will be retained for life.

 

David Baldwin

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org]
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 1:32 PM
To: biblememory()memoryverses.org
Subject: BibleMem: Sermon On The Mount Review

 

Hi Lavern!

 

In my current review "system", which seems to work pretty well for me, I

review the Sermon On The Mount every third day, along with a couple of other

passages.  As time goes by, that may decrease to about once a week or so, as

I learn (hopefully :-) more Scripture.  Like I mentioned, this was the 1st

large passage I tried, so it's a favorite and especially dear to my heart.

Since it's almost entirely the words of Jesus, it feels especially personal

to me.

 

By the way, I visited your website -- very nicely done!!

 

David H.

 

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Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:28 AM

To: biblememory()memoryverses.org

Subject: BibleMem: RE: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator

 

 

Hi,

 

It was good to hear from you!

 

How often do you review the Sermon on the Mount? I have been reviewing

Matthew 5-7 about once a week, but I am still rusty on it. I hope to

eventually get it better.

 

Sincerely,

Lavern Gingerich

lavern()pursuinglife.com

www.pursuinglife.com

 

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:31 PM

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Subject: BibleMem: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator

 

 

 

Rev. David C. Huff

Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church

285 Main Street

Lilburn, GA  30047

770-921-1220 Ext. 240

dhuff()firstbaptist.net

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Huff, David

Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM

To: 'Bible Memory List'

Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator

 

Everyone:

 

Good to see the list active again!  I began memorizing large passages about

2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit

into my life since then.  My best review time is during the morning "shower

and dress" routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of

anything (except possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-).

 

I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation

have brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming

spiritual discipline I have ever pursued!  I lead a men's

mentoring/discipleship ministry in our church, and we are using Scripture

memory with some wonderful results!!

 

The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5

-7), and it still remains my favorite.  I've also worked my way through

James and I John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with

a number of shorter Psalms.  Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge -

Psalm 119.

 

Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility

-- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me

to memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own.  Some weeks I

accomplish more than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to

APPLY what I'm learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and

disciplines -- me.

 

It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!!  I look forward to

hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm

119:11.

 

In Christ,

David

 

Rev. David C. Huff

Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church

285 Main Street

Lilburn, GA  30047

770-921-1220 Ext. 240

dhuff()firstbaptist.net

 

 

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Greetings,

 

It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture

Memory Email Discussion List.  During the last several months I have been

tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work.  (My father

passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work).

So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.

 

Now however, I would like to get things going again ...

 

>  If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with  the words

> "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top  of the body of the

> message.

 

I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of

Memorizing Scripture.

 

How is everybody doing?

 

What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?

 

What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing

scripture had on your relationship with God and others?

 

 

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Meg,
 
I have known people to do just that with great success.  They usually leave a
space for their own recitation of the verse between verses, and many say that it
helps them tremendously.
 
I am wondering if anyone can give me hints that are not based on the audial,
though.  I am hearing impaired, so audio bibiles, cd's, cassettes, etc. do not
help me.  I even tried listening to the 119 Psalm on the net today (one of you
sent the site) but cannot hear it well enough to understand the words.  However,
I really need something other than just flash cards - I spend close to 20 hours
a week on the road right now, and would love to be able to spend it in learning
and review, yet have to be able to keep my eye on the road - any
suggestions?????  Anyone?????
 
Thanks,
Denna

Bible Memory List   wrote:

Hello, everyone!
First of all, I'd like to say that it really touched my heart to hear your
stories of others in your family starting Bible memory because God used your
example. That is so cool. I hope I will be that example for someone someday and
they'll say, "I can do this too."
Anyhow, here's my idea- I know cassete players are like, old as fossils, but
I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a passage onto tape to play it
back for help in memorizing and review. I know I could probably do the same
thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, and I might, but I'll have to
get my husband's help for that. Never messed around with that before.
Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea?
I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, and I think
I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review.
Thanks,
Meg

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I gotta jump in here... I've been a member of this thing forever but never said
much and quite frankly put memorizing scriptures on the back burner...
Could make it a long boring story but suffice it to say that the Lord took me
through a period of depression (sorry if I sound like a jerk but I thought
depression was for women).  A VERY STRONG DEPRESSION that lasted until the Lord
got through to my thick skull.  He showed me that I needed to get in the word,
that I needed a bunch of bibles everywhere I sit down so that when I get a few
minutes there is always a bible nearby.  It's a pretty strong testimony in all
the detail but anyway, the depression lifted and He had me start memorizing.
Since I'm a member of a hard rock Christian band (we're waiting for the singer
that God has in mind) I have lotsa recording equipment.  I started recording
myself speaking memory verses (NASB) and then converting the wav files to mp3's.
 I ask for a car stereo for my birthday from my lovely wife that would play
mp3's as you can fit the entire bible on just a few cd's.
   I group the verses in bunches of three and the sony player enables me to
repeat track or repeat album (which is just a directory that the mp3's are
grouped in).  This gives me complete control over the structure of the cd.
Then after I learn 5 groups of 3 I place all those in a folder for review and
keep building the number of scriptures on the cd.  It's not all perfected yet,
but it's working.  In only about 2 months I've memorized 30 verses (actually 38
since some of the verses are more than a single verse; for example Psalms 1:1-3
I generally count as one verse).  When you do it yourself you can pick the
scriptures you want, you can group them the way you want and memorize easily as
you drive to work and back.
   I wouldn't mind helping some of you but would be concerned about the
copyright issue with the NASB...   Anyway just thought I'd throw some info
into the mix and if you have any questions I'll try to answer them.   Not to
bore you but when I got saved (1989) I found a little business card holder like
thing at a gas station (it was laying on the blacktop) while filling up that had
a bunch of bible verses in it (I was so young in the Lord that I didn't even
know what the "NASB" printed on them meant!).  I've since changed jobs twice
moved three times (once to a different state) and got married.  That little
verse holder (it's only about 2 x 3 inches) would disappear then re-appear later
and right now I'm looking at it.  When I decided to memorize I decided on the
NASB  and as I looked through the little verse holder I noticed it was NASB ....
God is awesome and will continue to work in your life to bring you to the next
level as long as you let Him...  sorry I'm so long winded, but it seems like a
lot of "coincidences" relating to me memorizing, me recording, the stream from
your group suddenly showing up in my email again.... some of what I'm saying is
valuable to someone out there...
I'm a head engineer, and a system administrator plus in my spare time I'm trying
to make a bible chart that shows the structure of entire bible in an in depth
way, and write songs... I'm really spread too thin so I don't read all the post
from this group.  I don't know how to help without getting completely
overwhelmed.  I just know God had me throw this info out there
for somebody.   Also, I converted my "Red Jeffries" cd's (I think there were
about 60) into mp3's and now the entire bible is on 7 cd's (that was a severe
pain in the butt).  Also, you can buy one that has the whole bible on two cd's
by Steve Stephens.  Very reasonably priced (I wish I knew about before I
converted all the "Red Jeffries" wav files).  If you can afford an
mp3 player for your car it's worth it.

In Him,
Rusty

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Steve Simpson (moderator) asked me to drop in a few words about MemLok.

I'm Drake Mariani...my testimony is at http://www.memlok.com/testimony.html
) and thank you Harold for bringing up MemLok to the group.

MemLok is at http://www.memlok.com I explain how God called me to this ministry
in 1989 while church planting http://www.memlok.com/history.html

Application is the key (meditation on God's Word that results in life change
which can only be done by growing closer to the living God) whether one does
passage or topics. I personally believe they are like two wings of an airplane.
Value in both. "Don't throw out the baby with the bath water"
someone said.

My focus is on the Topical approach (Again, God's call).

My experience with thousands of users is that the average Christian CAN do
individual verses for a lifetime if there are these factors:
1) meeting a need 2) with application 3) a long-term review system that doesn't
take a long time.

People can't seem to "get started". But, if I say "The wages"...they finish the
entire verse! So, MemLok has 48 topics of about 12 verses each with a visual cue
(Train for Train up; Mad bee for "Be Angry" etc)...go to
http://www.memlok.com/pc2printout.html But, hit the Site Map across the top of
any page for much more detail.

You can see the screens of this software (prints business cards and coloring
pages) at http://www.memlok.com/browse-scripture-memory-topics.html

Available in NIV, NASB, KJV and NKJ

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income since 1989.

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By the way, should you learn/apply simply one verse a week for 10 years using
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up with all of them.

One from every OT book, (tons of Psalms), and at least one from every chapter of
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I am certainly very excited about joining the group.  I am a student of
Christian Ministries.  Currently I am an undergraduate student and hope to be
starting a graduates program soon. 
 
I would like to be able to memorize scripture.  I read so many books and of the
course the Bible, but I can not say that I have even 50 scriptures memorized. 
Isn't that awful?
 
So I am hoping through this program and encouragement from all of you that I can
definitely improve in this area of my Christian walk. 
 
Thanks for your support
 
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Meg,

I've done quite a bit of recording with a mic hooked up to the computer and have
also used a portable cassette player.  In the end neither was terribly useful as
I'm not an auditory learner.  But give it a shot.  My philosophy for Scripture
memory is to do whatever works for you!

In Christ,

David Baldwin
david()word2life.com
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Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 4:35 PM
To: biblememory()memoryverses.org
Subject: BibleMem: anyone else tried this?

Hello, everyone!
First of all, I'd like to say that it really touched my heart to hear your
stories of others in your family starting Bible memory because God used your
example.  That is so cool.  I hope I will be that example for someone someday
and they'll say, "I can do this too."
Anyhow, here's my idea-  I know cassete players are like, old as fossils, but
I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a passage onto tape to play it
back for help in memorizing and review.  I know I could probably do the same
thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, and I might, but I'll have to
get my husband's help for that.  Never messed around with that before.
Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea?
I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, and I think
I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review.
Thanks,
Meg

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Yes that is a great idea.  I did that with cassette tapes as well.   It worked
great.   What I did was record shorter sections of scripture, just a few verses
at a time, then record them over and over again on the same tape.  You only have
to record them once on a tape then keep playing and rewinding and record it onto
another tape if you have a machine with a dual tape deck.  You can then listen
to it while you drive back and forth to work or while you are doing household
chores.  I haven't tried it with cd's yet but maybe someone else has.

Bible Memory List   wrote:

Hello, everyone!
First of all, I'd like to say that it really touched my heart to hear your
stories of others in your family starting Bible memory because God used your
example. That is so cool. I hope I will be that example for someone someday and
they'll say, "I can do this too."
Anyhow, here's my idea- I know cassete players are like, old as fossils, but
I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a passage onto tape to play it
back for help in memorizing and review. I know I could probably do the same
thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, and I might, but I'll have to
get my husband's help for that. Never messed around with that before.
Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea?
I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, and I think
I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review.
Thanks,
Meg

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Lavern,

 the only tapes i have are subliminal of linda fehl reading proverbs and psalms
with her soothing southern voice, with ocean waves in the background.
she use to have a ministry called rapha ranch ministries, inc in de funiak
springs florida. ... what good tapes to have..i bought all of hers. here is her
personal word "my life has changed as i read 181 chapters of the bible in just
four days. the word of God entered into me in a new dimension as i saw its
consistency and came face to face with the whole counsel of God as never before.
this same effect can be yours as you play this powerful set of tapes throughout
the day; even throughout the night. there is another cd i know of thru kenneth
hagin ministries called healing scriptures you might want to check into...look
into rhema bible correspondence course and ask about it...sincerely,

David Smalley

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Sent: Feb 18, 2005 11:27 AM
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Subject: BibleMem: Audio Bible Question

Hello!

 

Do you know of any audio Bible that has each verse (or several verses) on a
separate track?

 

Sincerely,

Lavern Gingerich

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Where can you get total recorder, super memo and memlock?

  Don

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Subject: BibleMem: Memlock

Hi.

There are a lot of ways of recording verses on your computer. I use the program
called "Total Recorder" and find that it works very well and have also found
that playing it back in my own voice is helpful in memorizing and also in
meditating on the scripture. I memorize in the NASB version and was not able to
find any prerecorded verses and so I started recording my own.

I am 53 years old and over the years started memorizing Scripture a number of
times but always ended up quiting after awhile. Then 5 years ago I came across
Memlok (www.memlok.com) and started using that program and found that for me it
was the perfect way to keep track of passages and review them in a systematic
manner. I find it difficult to memorize but over that 5 year period I have been
able to memorize over 1000 verses and have hardly missed a day when I have not
spent time in memorizing, meditating and reviewing.
Praise God!!

I am almost completed the whole program and when I am finished I am planning to
enter all my verses into Supermemo and then carry on memorizing using Supermemo.

As I have been reading all the posts in the past 2 weeks, there have been so
many times I read all the questions various people have had, and have said to
myself, "they need to look at memlok". So I encourage you all to go to the
memlok website and look at the program and see if might be the program that God
would have you use to memorize His Word.

After you have completed the program you will have memorized a passage from
every chapter in the New Testament and Proverbs and a passage from every book in
the Old Testament which are divided into 48 different topics with approximately
12 verses in each topic.

God bless you all.

Harold



,but I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a
> passage onto tape to
> play it back for help in memorizing and review.  I know I could
> probably do the same thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer,
> and I might, but I'll have to get my husband's help for that.  Never
> messed around with that before.
> Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea?
> I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages,
> and I think I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review.
> Thanks,
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Hello everyone

Some months ago I came across a book by Dallas Willard called Renovation of the
Heart. It has certainly been a transformational book for me and I would like to
share just one short passage about Bible memorization from it with this list ...

"The most obvious thing we can do is to draw certain key portions of Scripture
into our minds and make them a part of the permanent fixtures of our thought.
This is the primary discipline for the thought life. We need to know them like
the back of our hand, and a good way to do that is to memorize them and then
constantly turn them over in our minds as we go through the events and
circumstances of our life (Joshua 1:8; Psalm 1). The desired effect will not be
realized by focusing on isolated verses, but will certainly come as we ingest
passages, such as Romans 5:1-8 or 8:1-15, 1 Corinthians 13, or Colossians
3:1-17. When you take these into your mind, your mind will become filled with
the light of God himself. And light shines into darkness and darkness loses.
When the light comes into a room, we do not have to say, "Now what are we going
to do about the darkness?" It's gone! You say, "I can't memorize like that." I
assure you, you certainly can. God made your mind for it and he will help you.
He really wants you to do this. Of course that will be an integral part of the
other changes that will permeate your life as a whole. As you choose to give
your time and energy to, and plan your life around, the renovation of your mind,
it will happen.' But you must choose to do it and learn how-just like learning
to program and live with your VCR. Then you will know by experience that the
mind of the Spirit is life and peace, and in all the deflections of life your
mind will automatically re-center on God as the needle of the compass returns to
the north."

I cannot begin to match the memorization achievements of some members of this
list - I am truly astounded at what I have been reading in some of the posts
over the last few days - but I now have got Psalm 1, Psalm 23, Romans 5.1-8, 1
Corinthians 13, Colossians 3.1-7, Matthew 5.13-20, 2 Peter 1.2-11, and Isaiah
40.27-31 into my head and heart ... and what a blessing and source of
nourishment that is. Like others on the list, I use time in the car to review,
but my main learning/reviewing time is as soon as I get up on a morning and have
my first two cups of tea!

By the way, unlike most of you it seems, I live in England - in the north, in
Bradford, the home of Smith Wigglesworth!

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I spend no more than 3 minutes a week reviewing the Sermon on the Mount.  I can
quote any portion of the Sermon on the Mount with 99% accuracy.

 

I hope the above statement has raised your interest because if you correctly
structure your review program you can do the same.

 

I utilize the principal of spaced repetitions.  Here's how it works:  I break
down a passage I want to memorize in to numerous small pieces.  For instance I
might break down the first beatitude like this:

 

... poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are the ..., for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are the poor in spirit, ... the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the ....

 

Although I use software to accomplish this (Supermemo) you could certainly just
use note cards.  In the beginning I review these items with very short
repetitions, in other words I review them everyday.  I test myself to make sure
I can mentally fill in the missing words. As time goes on I review the less
frequently, perhaps once a week and then perhaps once a month.

 

Let's say that after a period of several months the last clause written above
comes up in my review process and I miss it.  Perhaps I say "the kingdom of GOD"
instead of "the kingdom HEAVEN".  What do I do?  I restart the process of spaced
repetitions ONLY ON THE PORTION I MISSED.  There's no need for me to repeat the
other three clauses listed above as I didn't miss those.

 

The process of spaced repetitions keeps my review process very efficient and
insures that all the work on I do on Scripture memory will be retained for life.

 

David Baldwin

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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 1:32 PM
To: biblememory()memoryverses.org
Subject: BibleMem: Sermon On The Mount Review

 

Hi Lavern!

 

In my current review "system", which seems to work pretty well for me, I

review the Sermon On The Mount every third day, along with a couple of other

passages.  As time goes by, that may decrease to about once a week or so, as

I learn (hopefully :-) more Scripture.  Like I mentioned, this was the 1st

large passage I tried, so it's a favorite and especially dear to my heart.

Since it's almost entirely the words of Jesus, it feels especially personal

to me.

 

By the way, I visited your website -- very nicely done!!

 

David H.

 

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Hi,

 

It was good to hear from you!

 

How often do you review the Sermon on the Mount? I have been reviewing

Matthew 5-7 about once a week, but I am still rusty on it. I hope to

eventually get it better.

 

Sincerely,

Lavern Gingerich

lavern()pursuinglife.com

www.pursuinglife.com

 

 

 

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Rev. David C. Huff

Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church

285 Main Street

Lilburn, GA  30047

770-921-1220 Ext. 240

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Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM

To: 'Bible Memory List'

Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator

 

Everyone:

 

Good to see the list active again!  I began memorizing large passages about

2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit

into my life since then.  My best review time is during the morning "shower

and dress" routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of

anything (except possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-).

 

I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation

have brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming

spiritual discipline I have ever pursued!  I lead a men's

mentoring/discipleship ministry in our church, and we are using Scripture

memory with some wonderful results!!

 

The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5

-7), and it still remains my favorite.  I've also worked my way through

James and I John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with

a number of shorter Psalms.  Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge -

Psalm 119.

 

Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility

-- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me

to memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own.  Some weeks I

accomplish more than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to

APPLY what I'm learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and

disciplines -- me.

 

It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!!  I look forward to

hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm

119:11.

 

In Christ,

David

 

Rev. David C. Huff

Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church

285 Main Street

Lilburn, GA  30047

770-921-1220 Ext. 240

dhuff()firstbaptist.net

 

 

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Greetings,

 

It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture

Memory Email Discussion List.  During the last several months I have been

tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work.  (My father

passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work).

So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.

 

Now however, I would like to get things going again ...

 

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I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of

Memorizing Scripture.

 

How is everybody doing?

 

What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?

 

What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing

scripture had on your relationship with God and others?

 

 

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Meg,
 
I have known people to do just that with great success.  They usually leave a
space for their own recitation of the verse between verses, and many say that it
helps them tremendously.
 
I am wondering if anyone can give me hints that are not based on the audial,
though.  I am hearing impaired, so audio bibiles, cd's, cassettes, etc. do not
help me.  I even tried listening to the 119 Psalm on the net today (one of you
sent the site) but cannot hear it well enough to understand the words.  However,
I really need something other than just flash cards - I spend close to 20 hours
a week on the road right now, and would love to be able to spend it in learning
and review, yet have to be able to keep my eye on the road - any
suggestions?????  Anyone?????
 
Thanks,
Denna

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Hello, everyone!
First of all, I'd like to say that it really touched my heart to hear your
stories of others in your family starting Bible memory because God used your
example. That is so cool. I hope I will be that example for someone someday and
they'll say, "I can do this too."
Anyhow, here's my idea- I know cassete players are like, old as fossils, but
I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a passage onto tape to play it
back for help in memorizing and review. I know I could probably do the same
thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, and I might, but I'll have to
get my husband's help for that. Never messed around with that before.
Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea?
I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, and I think
I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review.
Thanks,
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Dear Meg,
I have put the verses I'm memorizing on tapes, and I love it!  Great to use
while I'm cleaning house or cooking or even taking a walk.  I've also been
thinking about putting them on CD's, but like you I'll have to have help with
this.  I don't mind that tape recorders are old as the hills-so am I.
God Bless,
Judy

Bible Memory List   wrote:

Hello, everyone!
First of all, I'd like to say that it really touched my heart to hear your
stories of others in your family starting Bible memory because God used your
example. That is so cool. I hope I will be that example for someone someday and
they'll say, "I can do this too."
Anyhow, here's my idea- I know cassete players are like, old as fossils, but
I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a passage onto tape to play it
back for help in memorizing and review. I know I could probably do the same
thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, and I might, but I'll have to
get my husband's help for that. Never messed around with that before.
Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea?
I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, and I think
I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review.
Thanks,
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Another excellent book on memorization is "Flaming Sword", by Tai Ikomi. Though
it is not always easy to find, her testimony is very moving, as is the book
itself.
 
Denna

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I am certainly very excited about joining the group.  I am a student of
Christian Ministries.  Currently I am an undergraduate student and hope to be
starting a graduates program soon. 
 
I would like to be able to memorize scripture.  I read so many books and of the
course the Bible, but I can not say that I have even 50 scriptures memorized. 
Isn't that awful?
 
So I am hoping through this program and encouragement from all of you that I can
definitely improve in this area of my Christian walk. 
 
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Dear David,
The Lord has made us all so unique!  I exercise also and have no problem working
on my Scripture memory at that time, but I've tried to pray while exercising and
it just doesn't work for me at all.  I have to get quiet to hear the Lord. I'd
like to log an opinion on what translation to use.  I started out using the
N.A.S., but wasn't comfortable with it.  Which I found sort of odd since I had
studied from it for years.  Then I tried the R.S.V. and wasn't comfortable with
that version for memorization either.  Finally I did what I should have done at
the start and ask the Lord which version He would have me to use for Scripture
memory.  I was led to use the K.J.V., and am totally comfortable with it.  I
would advise anyone who is struggling with which version to use for scripture
memory to make it a matter of specific prayer. The Lord knows how He has made us
as individuals, and exactly what would be best for each of us.
God Bless,
Judy
 
 
 
 
 


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I've never been successful at combining exercise and Scripture memory but I have
had some success combining exercise and prayer. It's really double motivation
for though I might let one slip for a time I'm less inclined to let both
disciplines go by the wayside! Therefore if I'm particularly motivated to go out
for a run one day I'll be sure to pray, and if my motivation for exercise is low
but I've got some pressing matters to pray over I'll be sure to get that
exercise in!

David Baldwin
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Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:32 PM
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Subject: BibleMem: Confessions

Hello, all!

how are you? I have only been getting e-mails from this list for a couple of
days now, and I can already tell it will be a big factor in me keeping on track
and staying excited about Bible memory. Sometimes I think I'm weak that I need
accoutnability for something so "simple", but I guess that's just the way we're
made, to need each other.

Anyhow, I just read today that Karen (also on this list) does her review and
memorizing while she's walking. That's cool because I'm going to start getting
back into Bible memory (have been out of it for a little over a
month) while I ride my new stationary bike. I need to work on both my physical
health and my spiritual health and I know that it will make my biking just fly
by if I'm working on verses and not just staring at the little digital display
that tells me how slow I'm going. :-) I really look forward to this.

Also, another confession, I have been bad about reviewing verses and I know
that's pretty stupid, that's like catch and release for fishing... fun at the
time, but not very useful long term. I am going to work on reviewing verses too.
Oh boy! I have a lot of stuff to get together.

Thanks for the support and encouragement I've been getting from all of you!
I will stay in touch.
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Memlok      www.memlok.com
          see  message entitled " emLok Bible Memory System" sent at 1:17 Feb
21st
         which has a lot more information about Memlok
Note about memlok.   Most of the passages are 1-4 verses but I quite often
enlarge the passage by pasting it into the personal note section. Works really
well!

Supermemo  www.supermemo.com/
If you check the previous emails in the last 2 weeks there is one that details
how the program works and brother who wrote it up, has a good website that shows
you how to use the program with scripture memory

total recorder     www.highcriteria.com/productfr_tr.htm

Hopefully that helps
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Date: Monday, February 21, 2005 9:30 am
Subject: BibleMem: RE:  Memlock

> Where can you get total recorder, super memo and memlock?
>
>  Don
>
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> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 9:31 AM
> To: biblememory()memoryverses.org
> Subject: BibleMem: Memlock
>
> Hi.
>
> There are a lot of ways of recording verses on your computer. I use
> the program called "Total Recorder" and find that it works very well
> and have also found that playing it back in my own voice is helpful in
> memorizing and also in meditating on the scripture. I memorize in the
> NASB version and was not able to find any prerecorded verses and so I
> started recording my own.
>
> I am 53 years old and over the years started memorizing Scripture a
> number of times but always ended up quiting after awhile. Then 5 years
> ago I came across Memlok (www.memlok.com) and started using that
> program and found that for me it was the perfect way to keep track of
> passages and review them in a systematic manner. I find it difficult
> to memorize but over that 5 yearperiod I have been able to memorize
> over 1000 verses and have hardly missed a day when I have not spent
> time in memorizing, meditating and reviewing.Praise God!!
>
> I am almost completed the whole program and when I am finished I am
> planning to enter all my verses into Supermemo and then carry on
> memorizing usingSupermemo.
>
> As I have been reading all the posts in the past 2 weeks, there have
> been so many times I read all the questions various people have had,
> and have said to myself, "they need to look at memlok". So I encourage
> you all to go to the memlok website and look at the program and see if
> might be the programthat God would have you use to memorize His Word.
>
> After you have completed the program you will have memorized a passage
> from every chapter in the New Testament and Proverbs and a passage
> from everybook in the Old Testament which are divided into 48
> different topics with approximately 12 verses in each topic.
>
> God bless you all.
>
> Harold
>
>
>
> ,but I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a
> > passage onto tape to
> > play it back for help in memorizing and review.  I know I could
> > probably do the same thing with a CD and a microphone on my
> computer,
> > and I might, but I'll have to get my husband's help for that.
> Never
> > messed around with that before.
> > Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea?
> > I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long
> passages,
> > and I think I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for
> review.> Thanks,
> > Meg
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Neil,
Thanks so much for sharing the passage from Renovation of the Heart.  It is so
encouraging!  I'll have to keep my eye out for this book.  Like you, I haven't
memorized as much as some on the list.  But I am enjoying what I have and
looking forward to more. God Bless You, Judy

Bible Memory List   wrote:

Hello everyone

Some months ago I came across a book by Dallas Willard called Renovation of the
Heart. It has certainly been a transformational book for me and I would like to
share just one short passage from it with this list ...

"The most obvious thing we can do is to draw certain key portions of Scripture
into our minds and make them a part of the permanent fixtures of our thought.
This is the primary discipline for the thought life. We need to know them like
the back of our hand, and a good way to do that is to memorize them and then
constantly turn them over in our minds as we go through the events and
circumstances of our life (Joshua 1:8; Psalm 1).
The desired effect will not be realized by focusing on isolated verses, but will
certainly come as we ingest passages, such as Romans 5:1-8 or 8:1-15, 1
Corinthians 13, or Colossians 3:1-17. When you take these into your mind, your
mind will become filled with the light of God himself. And light shines into
darkness and darkness loses. When the light comes into a room, we do not have to
say, "Now what are we going to do about the darkness?" It's gone! You say, "I
can't memorize like that." I assure you, you certainly can. God made your mind
for it and he will help you. He really wants you to do this. Of course that will
be an integral part of the other changes that will permeate your life as a
whole. As you choose to give your time and energy to, and plan your life around,
the renovation of your mind, it will happen.' But you must choose to do it and
learn how-just like learning to program and live with your VCR. Then you will
know by experience that the mind of the Spirit is life and peace, and in all the
deflections of life your mind will automatically re-center on God as the needle
of the compass returns to the north."

I cannot begin to match the memorization achievements of some members of this
list - I am truly astounded at what I have been reading in some of the posts
over the last few days - but I now have got Psalm 1, Psalm 23, Romans 5.1-8, 1
Corinthians 13, Colossians 3.1-7, Matthew 5.13-20, 2 Peter 1.2-11, and Isaiah
40.27-31 into my head and heart ... and what a blessing and source of
nourishment that is. Like others on the list, I use time in the car to review,
but my main learning/reviewing time is as soon as I get up on a morning and have
my first two cups of tea!

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I can't remember who suggested Steve Green's children's music of verses, but it
is wonderful!  I have Philippians 4:13 in my 'heart' now, just from a song on
the V.1 CD!  Thank you again!

In Spirit,
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Dear Meg,
I have put the verses I'm memorizing on tapes, and I love it!  Great to use
while I'm cleaning house or cooking or even taking a walk.  I've also been
thinking about putting them on CD's, but like you I'll have to have help with
this.  I don't mind that tape recorders are old as the hills-so am I.
God Bless,
Judy

Bible Memory List   wrote:

Hello, everyone!
First of all, I'd like to say that it really touched my heart to hear your
stories of others in your family starting Bible memory because God used your
example. That is so cool. I hope I will be that example for someone someday and
they'll say, "I can do this too."
Anyhow, here's my idea- I know cassete players are like, old as fossils, but
I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a passage onto tape to play it
back for help in memorizing and review. I know I could probably do the same
thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, and I might, but I'll have to
get my husband's help for that. Never messed around with that before.
Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea?
I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, and I think
I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review.
Thanks,
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Another excellent book on memorization is "Flaming Sword", by Tai Ikomi. Though
it is not always easy to find, her testimony is very moving, as is the book
itself.
 
Denna

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I am certainly very excited about joining the group.  I am a student of
Christian Ministries.  Currently I am an undergraduate student and hope to be
starting a graduates program soon. 
 
I would like to be able to memorize scripture.  I read so many books and of the
course the Bible, but I can not say that I have even 50 scriptures memorized. 
Isn't that awful?
 
So I am hoping through this program and encouragement from all of you that I can
definitely improve in this area of my Christian walk. 
 
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Dear David,
The Lord has made us all so unique!  I exercise also and have no problem working
on my Scripture memory at that time, but I've tried to pray while exercising and
it just doesn't work for me at all.  I have to get quiet to hear the Lord. I'd
like to log an opinion on what translation to use.  I started out using the
N.A.S., but wasn't comfortable with it.  Which I found sort of odd since I had
studied from it for years.  Then I tried the R.S.V. and wasn't comfortable with
that version for memorization either.  Finally I did what I should have done at
the start and ask the Lord which version He would have me to use for Scripture
memory.  I was led to use the K.J.V., and am totally comfortable with it.  I
would advise anyone who is struggling with which version to use for scripture
memory to make it a matter of specific prayer. The Lord knows how He has made us
as individuals, and exactly what would be best for each of us.
God Bless,
Judy
 
 
 
 
 


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I've never been successful at combining exercise and Scripture memory but I have
had some success combining exercise and prayer. It's really double motivation
for though I might let one slip for a time I'm less inclined to let both
disciplines go by the wayside! Therefore if I'm particularly motivated to go out
for a run one day I'll be sure to pray, and if my motivation for exercise is low
but I've got some pressing matters to pray over I'll be sure to get that
exercise in!

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Subject: BibleMem: Confessions

Hello, all!

how are you? I have only been getting e-mails from this list for a couple of
days now, and I can already tell it will be a big factor in me keeping on track
and staying excited about Bible memory. Sometimes I think I'm weak that I need
accoutnability for something so "simple", but I guess that's just the way we're
made, to need each other.

Anyhow, I just read today that Karen (also on this list) does her review and
memorizing while she's walking. That's cool because I'm going to start getting
back into Bible memory (have been out of it for a little over a
month) while I ride my new stationary bike. I need to work on both my physical
health and my spiritual health and I know that it will make my biking just fly
by if I'm working on verses and not just staring at the little digital display
that tells me how slow I'm going. :-) I really look forward to this.

Also, another confession, I have been bad about reviewing verses and I know
that's pretty stupid, that's like catch and release for fishing... fun at the
time, but not very useful long term. I am going to work on reviewing verses too.
Oh boy! I have a lot of stuff to get together.

Thanks for the support and encouragement I've been getting from all of you!
I will stay in touch.
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Memlok      www.memlok.com
          see  message entitled " emLok Bible Memory System" sent at 1:17 Feb
21st
         which has a lot more information about Memlok
Note about memlok.   Most of the passages are 1-4 verses but I quite often
enlarge the passage by pasting it into the personal note section. Works really
well!

Supermemo  www.supermemo.com/
If you check the previous emails in the last 2 weeks there is one that details
how the program works and brother who wrote it up, has a good website that shows
you how to use the program with scripture memory

total recorder     www.highcriteria.com/productfr_tr.htm

Hopefully that helps
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Date: Monday, February 21, 2005 9:30 am
Subject: BibleMem: RE:  Memlock

> Where can you get total recorder, super memo and memlock?
>
>  Don
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bible Memory List [biblememory()memoryverses.org]
> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 9:31 AM
> To: biblememory()memoryverses.org
> Subject: BibleMem: Memlock
>
> Hi.
>
> There are a lot of ways of recording verses on your computer. I use
> the program called "Total Recorder" and find that it works very well
> and have also found that playing it back in my own voice is helpful in
> memorizing and also in meditating on the scripture. I memorize in the
> NASB version and was not able to find any prerecorded verses and so I
> started recording my own.
>
> I am 53 years old and over the years started memorizing Scripture a
> number of times but always ended up quiting after awhile. Then 5 years
> ago I came across Memlok (www.memlok.com) and started using that
> program and found that for me it was the perfect way to keep track of
> passages and review them in a systematic manner. I find it difficult
> to memorize but over that 5 yearperiod I have been able to memorize
> over 1000 verses and have hardly missed a day when I have not spent
> time in memorizing, meditating and reviewing.Praise God!!
>
> I am almost completed the whole program and when I am finished I am
> planning to enter all my verses into Supermemo and then carry on
> memorizing usingSupermemo.
>
> As I have been reading all the posts in the past 2 weeks, there have
> been so many times I read all the questions various people have had,
> and have said to myself, "they need to look at memlok". So I encourage
> you all to go to the memlok website and look at the program and see if
> might be the programthat God would have you use to memorize His Word.
>
> After you have completed the program you will have memorized a passage
> from every chapter in the New Testament and Proverbs and a passage
> from everybook in the Old Testament which are divided into 48
> different topics with approximately 12 verses in each topic.
>
> God bless you all.
>
> Harold
>
>
>
> ,but I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a
> > passage onto tape to
> > play it back for help in memorizing and review.  I know I could
> > probably do the same thing with a CD and a microphone on my
> computer,
> > and I might, but I'll have to get my husband's help for that.
> Never
> > messed around with that before.
> > Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea?
> > I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long
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> > and I think I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for
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> > Meg
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Neil,
Thanks so much for sharing the passage from Renovation of the Heart.  It is so
encouraging!  I'll have to keep my eye out for this book.  Like you, I haven't
memorized as much as some on the list.  But I am enjoying what I have and
looking forward to more. God Bless You, Judy

Bible Memory List   wrote:

Hello everyone

Some months ago I came across a book by Dallas Willard called Renovation of the
Heart. It has certainly been a transformational book for me and I would like to
share just one short passage from it with this list ...

"The most obvious thing we can do is to draw certain key portions of Scripture
into our minds and make them a part of the permanent fixtures of our thought.
This is the primary discipline for the thought life. We need to know them like
the back of our hand, and a good way to do that is to memorize them and then
constantly turn them over in our minds as we go through the events and
circumstances of our life (Joshua 1:8; Psalm 1).
The desired effect will not be realized by focusing on isolated verses, but will
certainly come as we ingest passages, such as Romans 5:1-8 or 8:1-15, 1
Corinthians 13, or Colossians 3:1-17. When you take these into your mind, your
mind will become filled with the light of God himself. And light shines into
darkness and darkness loses. When the light comes into a room, we do not have to
say, "Now what are we going to do about the darkness?" It's gone! You say, "I
can't memorize like that." I assure you, you certainly can. God made your mind
for it and he will help you. He really wants you to do this. Of course that will
be an integral part of the other changes that will permeate your life as a
whole. As you choose to give your time and energy to, and plan your life around,
the renovation of your mind, it will happen.' But you must choose to do it and
learn how-just like learning to program and live with your VCR. Then you will
know by experience that the mind of the Spirit is life and peace, and in all the
deflections of life your mind will automatically re-center on God as the needle
of the compass returns to the north."

I cannot begin to match the memorization achievements of some members of this
list - I am truly astounded at what I have been reading in some of the posts
over the last few days - but I now have got Psalm 1, Psalm 23, Romans 5.1-8, 1
Corinthians 13, Colossians 3.1-7, Matthew 5.13-20, 2 Peter 1.2-11, and Isaiah
40.27-31 into my head and heart ... and what a blessing and source of
nourishment that is. Like others on the list, I use time in the car to review,
but my main learning/reviewing time is as soon as I get up on a morning and have
my first two cups of tea!

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I can't remember who suggested Steve Green's children's music of verses, but it
is wonderful!  I have Philippians 4:13 in my 'heart' now, just from a song on
the V.1 CD!  Thank you again!

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Rusty,  Very interesting.  Can you give a step-by-step description of how you do
the wav file and then convert it to mp3?  I would assume that you could record
the narration from Biblegateway.com to a wav file and then convert to mp3.

I also use the business card holder for my verses.  I copy and paste the verse
to a word file (business card layout) - one for the verse and one for the
reference.  Once I have 10 in a file I will print the verses on one side and run
it thru again to print the reference on the other side.  Very seldom do I not
have a few cards in my shirt pocket or even in my car.  I have bought a number
of the holders from Staples.  The larger ones will hold upwards of 50 cards
each.

For the person who had a lot of travel time and was hearing impaired, I find
that if I use a larger font, it is fairly easy to review in the car. Of course,
I am not in really heavy traffic.  It just takes a quick glance at the card to
verify if you are saying the verse correctly or to get help on one you are
memorizing.

I had a delivery job in college and this worked well for a World Religions class
that we had to memorize 60 verses for.  You just have to be extra careful if you
do this.  The key word above was "quick" glance.

In Christ!

Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org]
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 11:05 PM
To: biblememory()memoryverses.org
Subject: BibleMem: cd's mp3's recording etc.


I gotta jump in here... I've been a member of this thing forever but never said
much and quite frankly put memorizing scriptures on the back burner...
Could make it a long boring story but suffice it to say that the Lord took me
through a period of depression (sorry if I sound like a jerk but I thought
depression was for women).  A VERY STRONG DEPRESSION that lasted until the Lord
got through to my thick skull.  He showed me that I needed to get in the word,
that I needed a bunch of bibles everywhere I sit down so that when I get a few
minutes there is always a bible nearby.  It's a pretty strong testimony in all
the detail but anyway, the depression lifted and He had me start memorizing.
Since I'm a member of a hard rock Christian band (we're waiting for the singer
that God has in mind) I have lotsa recording equipment.  I started recording
myself speaking memory verses (NASB) and then converting the wav files to mp3's.
 I ask for a car stereo for my birthday from my lovely wife that would play
mp3's as you can fit the entire bible on just a few cd's.
   I group the verses in bunches of three and the sony player enables me to
repeat track or repeat album (which is just a directory that the mp3's are
grouped in).  This gives me complete control over the structure of the cd.
Then after I learn 5 groups of 3 I place all those in a folder for review and
keep building the number of scriptures on the cd.  It's not all perfected yet,
but it's working.  In only about 2 months I've memorized 30 verses (actually 38
since some of the verses are more than a single verse; for example Psalms 1:1-3
I generally count as one verse).  When you do it yourself you can pick the
scriptures you want, you can group them the way you want and memorize easily as
you drive to work and back.
   I wouldn't mind helping some of you but would be concerned about the
copyright issue with the NASB...   Anyway just thought I'd throw some info
into the mix and if you have any questions I'll try to answer them.   Not to
bore you but when I got saved (1989) I found a little business card holder like
thing at a gas station (it was laying on the blacktop) while filling up that had
a bunch of bible verses in it (I was so young in the Lord that I didn't even
know what the "NASB" printed on them meant!).  I've since changed jobs twice
moved three times (once to a different state) and got married.  That little
verse holder (it's only about 2 x 3 inches) would disappear then re-appear later
and right now I'm looking at it.  When I decided to memorize I decided on the
NASB  and as I looked through the little verse holder I noticed it was NASB ....
God is awesome and will continue to work in your life to bring you to the next
level as long as you let Him...  sorry I'm so long winded, but it seems like a
lot of "coincidences" relating to me memorizing, me recording, the stream from
your group suddenly showing up in my email again.... some of what I'm saying is
valuable to someone out there...
I'm a head engineer, and a system administrator plus in my spare time I'm trying
to make a bible chart that shows the structure of entire bible in an in depth
way, and write songs... I'm really spread too thin so I don't read all the post
from this group.  I don't know how to help without getting completely
overwhelmed.  I just know God had me throw this info out there
for somebody.   Also, I converted my "Red Jeffries" cd's (I think there were
about 60) into mp3's and now the entire bible is on 7 cd's (that was a severe
pain in the butt).  Also, you can buy one that has the whole bible on two cd's
by Steve Stephens.  Very reasonably priced (I wish I knew about before I
converted all the "Red Jeffries" wav files).  If you can afford an
mp3 player for your car it's worth it.

In Him,
Rusty

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I convert .wav files to mp3 using iTunes a free program online. It makes them so
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At 2/23/2005 11:21 AM, you wrote:

Rusty,  Very interesting.  Can you give a step-by-step description of how you do
the wav file and then convert it to mp3?  I would assume that you could record
the narration from Biblegateway.com to a wav file and then convert to mp3.

I also use the business card holder for my verses.  I copy and paste the verse
to a word file (business card layout) - one for the verse and one for the
reference.  Once I have 10 in a file I will print the verses on one side and run
it thru again to print the reference on the other side.  Very seldom do I not
have a few cards in my shirt pocket or even in my car.  I have bought a number
of the holders from Staples.  The larger ones will hold upwards of 50 cards
each.

For the person who had a lot of travel time and was hearing impaired, I find
that if I use a larger font, it is fairly easy to review in the car. Of course,
I am not in really heavy traffic.  It just takes a quick glance at the card to
verify if you are saying the verse correctly or to get help on one you are
memorizing.

I had a delivery job in college and this worked well for a World Religions class
that we had to memorize 60 verses for.  You just have to be extra careful if you
do this.  The key word above was "quick" glance.

In Christ!

Chuck

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Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 11:05 PM
To: biblememory()memoryverses.org
Subject: BibleMem: cd's mp3's recording etc.


I gotta jump in here... I've been a member of this thing forever but never said
much and quite frankly put memorizing scriptures on the back burner...
Could make it a long boring story but suffice it to say that the Lord took me
through a period of depression (sorry if I sound like a jerk but I thought
depression was for women).  A VERY STRONG DEPRESSION that lasted until the Lord
got through to my thick skull.  He showed me that I needed to get in the word,
that I needed a bunch of bibles everywhere I sit down so that when I get a few
minutes there is always a bible nearby.  It's a pretty strong testimony in all
the detail but anyway, the depression lifted and He had me start memorizing. 
Since I'm a member of a hard rock Christian band (we're waiting for the singer
that God has in mind) I have lotsa recording equipment.  I started recording
myself speaking memory verses (NASB) and then converting the wav files to
mp3's.  I ask for a car stereo for my birthday from my lovely wife that would
play mp3's as you can fit the entire bible on just a few cd's.
   I group the verses in bunches of three and the sony player enables me to
repeat track or repeat album (which is just a directory that the mp3's are
grouped in).  This gives me complete control over the structure of the cd.
Then after I learn 5 groups of 3 I place all those in a folder for review and
keep building the number of scriptures on the cd.  It's not all perfected yet,
but it's working.  In only about 2 months I've memorized 30 verses (actually 38
since some of the verses are more than a single verse; for example Psalms 1:1-3
I generally count as one verse).  When you do it yourself you can pick the
scriptures you want, you can group them the way you want and memorize easily as
you drive to work and back.
   I wouldn't mind helping some of you but would be concerned about the
copyright issue with the NASB...   Anyway just thought I'd throw some info into
the mix and if you have any questions I'll try to answer them.   Not to bore you
but when I got saved (1989) I found a little business card holder like thing at
a gas station (it was laying on the blacktop) while filling up that had a bunch
of bible verses in it (I was so young in the Lord that I didn't even know what
the "NASB" printed on them meant!).  I've since changed jobs twice moved three
times (once to a different state) and got married.  That little verse holder
(it's only about 2 x 3 inches) would disappear then re-appear later and right
now I'm looking at it.  When I decided to memorize I decided on the NASB  and as
I looked through the little verse holder I noticed it was NASB .... God is
awesome and will continue to work in your life to bring you to the next level as
long as you let Him...  sorry I'm so long winded, but it seems like a lot of
"coincidences" relating to me memorizing, me recording, the stream from your
group suddenly showing up in my email again.... some of what I'm saying is
valuable to someone out there...
I'm a head engineer, and a system administrator plus in my spare time I'm trying
to make a bible chart that shows the structure of entire bible in an in depth
way, and write songs... I'm really spread too thin so I don't read all the post
from this group.  I don't know how to help without getting completely
overwhelmed.  I just know God had me throw this info out there for somebody.  
Also, I converted my "Red Jeffries" cd's (I think there were about 60) into
mp3's and now the entire bible is on 7 cd's (that was a severe pain in the
butt).  Also, you can buy one that has the whole bible on two cd's by Steve
Stephens.  Very reasonably priced (I wish I knew about before I converted all
the "Red Jeffries" wav files).  If you can afford an
mp3 player for your car it's worth it.

In Him,
Rusty

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Okay here’s the basic steps:

1) Pick out the verse I'm going to record.

I usually do about 15 at a time; since I'm a hopeless   perfectionist It
takes me a while to get them "acceptable" (note: Lately I feel the Lord leading
me to come up with some type of praise medley of verses.. a bunch of verse
memorized as a group that are all praise to Him... I know my praise to Him will
never be as good as He deserves, but I also know that it could be better.  I
would be interested in any list of this kind to save me from the leg work...)

2) Record myself saying the reference then the verse.

Typically I try for this ... 1 second silence, the reference, 2-3 seconds
silence, the verse, 2-3 seconds of silence.

When you are driving and hear the reference you (at least I do) need about two
seconds to recall it so that you are ready to recite it with the cd.

3) I then use a program called "cdex" to convert the wave file to mp3.

This program is free but they take donations.  It is a very useful program that
will "rip" wave files from a cd player.  I would encourage anyone utilizing free
programs to donate $5 or $10 if they can afford it.  Writing software is a very
laborious process, and these people who give it away should be rewarded.  Also,
I'm am not advocating "stealing" music when I say "rip" files of a cd.  I'm a
musician and know what goes into creating music... very similar to creating
programs... lots of time.  When I'm talking about ripping, I'm talking about
something I've already paid for and
am utilizing in another fashion for MYSELF and not for resale.      I've
copied stuff illegally in the past and the Lord showed me that I need to be
faithful in the small things.  If I pay for a cd and then I want to make copies,
or a cd with selection from various artists for my own personal use, I'm not
convicted.  If I copy something from someone else, or copy something of mine for
someone else, I would feel convicted.  I'm not preaching, not judging, just
telling where the Lord has brought me.

A note on the differences between mp3's and waves:

Your typical audio cd has wave files.  Depending on the bit rate an mp3 might be
1/10th the size (or even smaller) than a wave file.  You can throw many more
mp3's on a cd.  The catch is the quality isn't as high and you have to have an
mp3 player to listen to it. Also, the mp3's are 'sorted' by name and therefore
how you name them is crucial to the order they are played.  Anyone who knows
more about this or any subject I engage is more than welcome to correct me, as I
don't want to disseminate bad information.
Anyway, there is nothing wrong with leaving your files in wave form and burning
a regular audio cd if you desire.  Most players play burnt audio cd's and it
might not be a priority for you to acquire an mp3 player.  You will be limited
to around 70-80 minutes of play time with typical audio cds.

The mp3 format is also just a typical folder structure that you might see on a
computer.  Here's the good, the bad, and the ugly.  The good is that you can
group your files in different folders to enable more control over your playback
options.  The bad is that some players (including mine) have limitations on the
numbers of files you can have, the number of folders you can have, and the
number of files you can have in each folder.  Still with these limitations it is
well worth it for me to go with mp3's.  Oh yeah and the ugly ... that's me, I
saw myself in the mirror this morning... WOW!!!
I'm glad the Lord made my wife to see with her heart instead of her eyes!

4) I then burn the cd with the files that I want in the order that I want.

Here's what a typical structure on my cd would look like with mp3's

folders:

01-3
04-6
07-9
10-12
13-15
01-15_NR
PRE_NR

I would have my first three verses in "01-3", the next three in "04-6" and so
on.  When I listen to the cd I have three options on repeat.  I can
repeat file, repeat folder, or no repeat at all.      So if I'm learning
verses 10-12 and concentrating on 11 at the time, I would be in folder"10-12"
and have "repeat file" on as I listen to verse #11.  After I go over it a while,
I could then listen to #12... Then switch to "folder repeat" and review verse
#10,11, and 12 over and over.  Very handy, and hands free.

I've read some of the posts where people like using tapes...  Whatever works for
you.  If you are learning the word and you are comfortably with your method,
more power to ya!!!  I can understand why someone would not want to invest the
time and money into doing it the way I do it.  But I will say that it is
effective.  Also, above you see the "01-15NR" and "PRE-NR"
folders... the "NR" stand for "no reference".  I typically make two wave files,
one with the verse reference and one without.  One of my biggest problems has
been remembering the reference.  I throw the ones I have memorized into these
folders and then when I hear them I recall the verse reference and look at the
player to see the name of the file (my player also only displays 8 char's so you
have to name them abbreviated).  The "PRE"
means previous; I will dump all verses I have previously memorized in here for
review.  Also there is free burning software available;  I have used
"burnatonce" but I'm sure others are available.

I'm writing this for the typical non-geek, non-musician so I'm leaving out a lot
of details.  I will supply as much detail as requested, time permitting.
I use a SM-57 mic, sonar software, and a Aardvark Pro-Q10 sound device.
This is complete overkill for anyone who is not trying to produce professional
recordings.  Most computers have sound cards, cd burners, and an inexpensive
mic.  This will work fine.... again, everyone is different...
whatever gets the Word In!!!  The "Total Recorder" software mentioned earlier
seems to work.  Also Windows has it's own wave recorder built in to the
operating system.  Any details about these matters can be furnished by myself or
someone else in the group.
I wouldn’t even be opposed to helping with a repository of files, however they
would have to be a version that is in the public domain… the KJV and
the WEB version come to mind and I’m sure there are others…   I've got to
get to church so I'll talk at ya’ll later... just remember... 2 Tim 3:16....
I bet you guys all know that one!!

In Him,
Rusty


>Rusty,  Very interesting.  Can you give a step-by-step description of
>how you do the wav file and then convert it to mp3?  I would assume
>that you could record the narration from Biblegateway.com to a wav file
>and then convert to mp3.


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Rusty,  Very interesting.  Can you give a step-by-step description of how you do
the wav file and then convert it to mp3?  I would assume that you could record
the narration from Biblegateway.com to a wav file and then convert to mp3.

I also use the business card holder for my verses.  I copy and paste the verse
to a word file (business card layout) - one for the verse and one for the
reference.  Once I have 10 in a file I will print the verses on one side and run
it thru again to print the reference on the other side.  Very seldom do I not
have a few cards in my shirt pocket or even in my car.  I have bought a number
of the holders from Staples.  The larger ones will hold upwards of 50 cards
each.

For the person who had a lot of travel time and was hearing impaired, I find
that if I use a larger font, it is fairly easy to review in the car. Of course,
I am not in really heavy traffic.  It just takes a quick glance at the card to
verify if you are saying the verse correctly or to get help on one you are
memorizing.

I had a delivery job in college and this worked well for a World Religions class
that we had to memorize 60 verses for.  You just have to be extra careful if you
do this.  The key word above was "quick" glance.

In Christ!

Chuck

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Subject: BibleMem: cd's mp3's recording etc.


I gotta jump in here... I've been a member of this thing forever but never said
much and quite frankly put memorizing scriptures on the back burner...
Could make it a long boring story but suffice it to say that the Lord took me
through a period of depression (sorry if I sound like a jerk but I thought
depression was for women).  A VERY STRONG DEPRESSION that lasted until the Lord
got through to my thick skull.  He showed me that I needed to get in the word,
that I needed a bunch of bibles everywhere I sit down so that when I get a few
minutes there is always a bible nearby.  It's a pretty strong testimony in all
the detail but anyway, the depression lifted and He had me start memorizing.
Since I'm a member of a hard rock Christian band (we're waiting for the singer
that God has in mind) I have lotsa recording equipment.  I started recording
myself speaking memory verses (NASB) and then converting the wav files to mp3's.
 I ask for a car stereo for my birthday from my lovely wife that would play
mp3's as you can fit the entire bible on just a few cd's.
   I group the verses in bunches of three and the sony player enables me to
repeat track or repeat album (which is just a directory that the mp3's are
grouped in).  This gives me complete control over the structure of the cd.
Then after I learn 5 groups of 3 I place all those in a folder for review and
keep building the number of scriptures on the cd.  It's not all perfected yet,
but it's working.  In only about 2 months I've memorized 30 verses (actually 38
since some of the verses are more than a single verse; for example Psalms 1:1-3
I generally count as one verse).  When you do it yourself you can pick the
scriptures you want, you can group them the way you want and memorize easily as
you drive to work and back.
   I wouldn't mind helping some of you but would be concerned about the
copyright issue with the NASB...   Anyway just thought I'd throw some info
into the mix and if you have any questions I'll try to answer them.   Not to
bore you but when I got saved (1989) I found a little business card holder like
thing at a gas station (it was laying on the blacktop) while filling up that had
a bunch of bible verses in it (I was so young in the Lord that I didn't even
know what the "NASB" printed on them meant!).  I've since changed jobs twice
moved three times (once to a different state) and got married.  That little
verse holder (it's only about 2 x 3 inches) would disappear then re-appear later
and right now I'm looking at it.  When I decided to memorize I decided on the
NASB  and as I looked through the little verse holder I noticed it was NASB ....
God is awesome and will continue to work in your life to bring you to the next
level as long as you let Him...  sorry I'm so long winded, but it seems like a
lot of "coincidences" relating to me memorizing, me recording, the stream from
your group suddenly showing up in my email again.... some of what I'm saying is
valuable to someone out there...
I'm a head engineer, and a system administrator plus in my spare time I'm trying
to make a bible chart that shows the structure of entire bible in an in depth
way, and write songs... I'm really spread too thin so I don't read all the post
from this group.  I don't know how to help without getting completely
overwhelmed.  I just know God had me throw this info out there
for somebody.   Also, I converted my "Red Jeffries" cd's (I think there were
about 60) into mp3's and now the entire bible is on 7 cd's (that was a severe
pain in the butt).  Also, you can buy one that has the whole bible on two cd's
by Steve Stephens.  Very reasonably priced (I wish I knew about before I
converted all the "Red Jeffries" wav files).  If you can afford an
mp3 player for your car it's worth it.

In Him,
Rusty

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At 2/23/2005 11:21 AM, you wrote:

Rusty,  Very interesting.  Can you give a step-by-step description of how you do
the wav file and then convert it to mp3?  I would assume that you could record
the narration from Biblegateway.com to a wav file and then convert to mp3.

I also use the business card holder for my verses.  I copy and paste the verse
to a word file (business card layout) - one for the verse and one for the
reference.  Once I have 10 in a file I will print the verses on one side and run
it thru again to print the reference on the other side.  Very seldom do I not
have a few cards in my shirt pocket or even in my car.  I have bought a number
of the holders from Staples.  The larger ones will hold upwards of 50 cards
each.

For the person who had a lot of travel time and was hearing impaired, I find
that if I use a larger font, it is fairly easy to review in the car. Of course,
I am not in really heavy traffic.  It just takes a quick glance at the card to
verify if you are saying the verse correctly or to get help on one you are
memorizing.

I had a delivery job in college and this worked well for a World Religions class
that we had to memorize 60 verses for.  You just have to be extra careful if you
do this.  The key word above was "quick" glance.

In Christ!

Chuck

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Subject: BibleMem: cd's mp3's recording etc.


I gotta jump in here... I've been a member of this thing forever but never said
much and quite frankly put memorizing scriptures on the back burner...
Could make it a long boring story but suffice it to say that the Lord took me
through a period of depression (sorry if I sound like a jerk but I thought
depression was for women).  A VERY STRONG DEPRESSION that lasted until the Lord
got through to my thick skull.  He showed me that I needed to get in the word,
that I needed a bunch of bibles everywhere I sit down so that when I get a few
minutes there is always a bible nearby.  It's a pretty strong testimony in all
the detail but anyway, the depression lifted and He had me start memorizing. 
Since I'm a member of a hard rock Christian band (we're waiting for the singer
that God has in mind) I have lotsa recording equipment.  I started recording
myself speaking memory verses (NASB) and then converting the wav files to
mp3's.  I ask for a car stereo for my birthday from my lovely wife that would
play mp3's as you can fit the entire bible on just a few cd's.
   I group the verses in bunches of three and the sony player enables me to
repeat track or repeat album (which is just a directory that the mp3's are
grouped in).  This gives me complete control over the structure of the cd.
Then after I learn 5 groups of 3 I place all those in a folder for review and
keep building the number of scriptures on the cd.  It's not all perfected yet,
but it's working.  In only about 2 months I've memorized 30 verses (actually 38
since some of the verses are more than a single verse; for example Psalms 1:1-3
I generally count as one verse).  When you do it yourself you can pick the
scriptures you want, you can group them the way you want and memorize easily as
you drive to work and back.
   I wouldn't mind helping some of you but would be concerned about the
copyright issue with the NASB...   Anyway just thought I'd throw some info into
the mix and if you have any questions I'll try to answer them.   Not to bore you
but when I got saved (1989) I found a little business card holder like thing at
a gas station (it was laying on the blacktop) while filling up that had a bunch
of bible verses in it (I was so young in the Lord that I didn't even know what
the "NASB" printed on them meant!).  I've since changed jobs twice moved three
times (once to a different state) and got married.  That little verse holder
(it's only about 2 x 3 inches) would disappear then re-appear later and right
now I'm looking at it.  When I decided to memorize I decided on the NASB  and as
I looked through the little verse holder I noticed it was NASB .... God is
awesome and will continue to work in your life to bring you to the next level as
long as you let Him...  sorry I'm so long winded, but it seems like a lot of
"coincidences" relating to me memorizing, me recording, the stream from your
group suddenly showing up in my email again.... some of what I'm saying is
valuable to someone out there...
I'm a head engineer, and a system administrator plus in my spare time I'm trying
to make a bible chart that shows the structure of entire bible in an in depth
way, and write songs... I'm really spread too thin so I don't read all the post
from this group.  I don't know how to help without getting completely
overwhelmed.  I just know God had me throw this info out there for somebody.  
Also, I converted my "Red Jeffries" cd's (I think there were about 60) into
mp3's and now the entire bible is on 7 cd's (that was a severe pain in the
butt).  Also, you can buy one that has the whole bible on two cd's by Steve
Stephens.  Very reasonably priced (I wish I knew about before I converted all
the "Red Jeffries" wav files).  If you can afford an
mp3 player for your car it's worth it.

In Him,
Rusty

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Okay here’s the basic steps:

1) Pick out the verse I'm going to record.

I usually do about 15 at a time; since I'm a hopeless   perfectionist It
takes me a while to get them "acceptable" (note: Lately I feel the Lord leading
me to come up with some type of praise medley of verses.. a bunch of verse
memorized as a group that are all praise to Him... I know my praise to Him will
never be as good as He deserves, but I also know that it could be better.  I
would be interested in any list of this kind to save me from the leg work...)

2) Record myself saying the reference then the verse.

Typically I try for this ... 1 second silence, the reference, 2-3 seconds
silence, the verse, 2-3 seconds of silence.

When you are driving and hear the reference you (at least I do) need about two
seconds to recall it so that you are ready to recite it with the cd.

3) I then use a program called "cdex" to convert the wave file to mp3.

This program is free but they take donations.  It is a very useful program that
will "rip" wave files from a cd player.  I would encourage anyone utilizing free
programs to donate $5 or $10 if they can afford it.  Writing software is a very
laborious process, and these people who give it away should be rewarded.  Also,
I'm am not advocating "stealing" music when I say "rip" files of a cd.  I'm a
musician and know what goes into creating music... very similar to creating
programs... lots of time.  When I'm talking about ripping, I'm talking about
something I've already paid for and
am utilizing in another fashion for MYSELF and not for resale.      I've
copied stuff illegally in the past and the Lord showed me that I need to be
faithful in the small things.  If I pay for a cd and then I want to make copies,
or a cd with selection from various artists for my own personal use, I'm not
convicted.  If I copy something from someone else, or copy something of mine for
someone else, I would feel convicted.  I'm not preaching, not judging, just
telling where the Lord has brought me.

A note on the differences between mp3's and waves:

Your typical audio cd has wave files.  Depending on the bit rate an mp3 might be
1/10th the size (or even smaller) than a wave file.  You can throw many more
mp3's on a cd.  The catch is the quality isn't as high and you have to have an
mp3 player to listen to it. Also, the mp3's are 'sorted' by name and therefore
how you name them is crucial to the order they are played.  Anyone who knows
more about this or any subject I engage is more than welcome to correct me, as I
don't want to disseminate bad information.
Anyway, there is nothing wrong with leaving your files in wave form and burning
a regular audio cd if you desire.  Most players play burnt audio cd's and it
might not be a priority for you to acquire an mp3 player.  You will be limited
to around 70-80 minutes of play time with typical audio cds.

The mp3 format is also just a typical folder structure that you might see on a
computer.  Here's the good, the bad, and the ugly.  The good is that you can
group your files in different folders to enable more control over your playback
options.  The bad is that some players (including mine) have limitations on the
numbers of files you can have, the number of folders you can have, and the
number of files you can have in each folder.  Still with these limitations it is
well worth it for me to go with mp3's.  Oh yeah and the ugly ... that's me, I
saw myself in the mirror this morning... WOW!!!
I'm glad the Lord made my wife to see with her heart instead of her eyes!

4) I then burn the cd with the files that I want in the order that I want.

Here's what a typical structure on my cd would look like with mp3's

folders:

01-3
04-6
07-9
10-12
13-15
01-15_NR
PRE_NR

I would have my first three verses in "01-3", the next three in "04-6" and so
on.  When I listen to the cd I have three options on repeat.  I can
repeat file, repeat folder, or no repeat at all.      So if I'm learning
verses 10-12 and concentrating on 11 at the time, I would be in folder"10-12"
and have "repeat file" on as I listen to verse #11.  After I go over it a while,
I could then listen to #12... Then switch to "folder repeat" and review verse
#10,11, and 12 over and over.  Very handy, and hands free.

I've read some of the posts where people like using tapes...  Whatever works for
you.  If you are learning the word and you are comfortably with your method,
more power to ya!!!  I can understand why someone would not want to invest the
time and money into doing it the way I do it.  But I will say that it is
effective.  Also, above you see the "01-15NR" and "PRE-NR"
folders... the "NR" stand for "no reference".  I typically make two wave files,
one with the verse reference and one without.  One of my biggest problems has
been remembering the reference.  I throw the ones I have memorized into these
folders and then when I hear them I recall the verse reference and look at the
player to see the name of the file (my player also only displays 8 char's so you
have to name them abbreviated).  The "PRE"
means previous; I will dump all verses I have previously memorized in here for
review.  Also there is free burning software available;  I have used
"burnatonce" but I'm sure others are available.

I'm writing this for the typical non-geek, non-musician so I'm leaving out a lot
of details.  I will supply as much detail as requested, time permitting.
I use a SM-57 mic, sonar software, and a Aardvark Pro-Q10 sound device.
This is complete overkill for anyone who is not trying to produce professional
recordings.  Most computers have sound cards, cd burners, and an inexpensive
mic.  This will work fine.... again, everyone is different...
whatever gets the Word In!!!  The "Total Recorder" software mentioned earlier
seems to work.  Also Windows has it's own wave recorder built in to the
operating system.  Any details about these matters can be furnished by myself or
someone else in the group.
I wouldn’t even be opposed to helping with a repository of files, however they
would have to be a version that is in the public domain… the KJV and
the WEB version come to mind and I’m sure there are others…   I've got to
get to church so I'll talk at ya’ll later... just remember... 2 Tim 3:16....
I bet you guys all know that one!!

In Him,
Rusty


>Rusty,  Very interesting.  Can you give a step-by-step description of
>how you do the wav file and then convert it to mp3?  I would assume
>that you could record the narration from Biblegateway.com to a wav file
>and then convert to mp3.


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Sorry for the bad grammer and missing punctuation last night... I was in a
hurry, and I think I messed up the spell check.
A couple of notes:

The directories listed with "NR" in them should have started with "NR",
otherwise there are sorting issues.
The folders should be named something like this:
NR01-15
NR_PREV

Also I found some software that appears to do most everything one would need.

It's free and you can download it at:

http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/
follow the first link that says "click here to install"
I haven't completely tested it but I have converted a wav to a mp3, recorded my
voice, and did basic editing on the wav.

The install will take a while if you don't have a high speed connection.
Be patient... if you check more than one component to be installed it will
install all of them but will appear as though you should intervene to make it
continue.... just let it go on it's own; or possibly check only one component at
a time.

Praise the Name of the Most High!!!
In Him,

Rusty



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Op 23-feb-05 om 20:21 heeft Bible Memory List het volgende geschreven:

> For the person who had a lot of travel time and was hearing impaired,
> I find that if I use a larger font, it is fairly easy to review in the
> car. Of course, I am not in really heavy traffic.  It just takes a
> quick glance at the card to verify if you are saying the verse
> correctly or to get help on one you are memorizing.

Please keep safety in mind. We long to meet our Saviour, but let us not take a
shortcut :-) Consider taking public transportation if you want to combine visual
memorisation techniques with traveling, or stick to audio for those who are able
to use that. I know a fellow christian who was arrested for good reason: he was
caught reading a book while driving on a highway! There are many good things to
do when driving:
recalling passages to see if you remember them well enough, brainstorming on how
to visualise Bible texts to remember them beter, praying (with your eyes open).
But we should never let our zeal endanger ourselves and others.

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Sorry for the bad grammer and missing punctuation last night... I was in a
hurry, and I think I messed up the spell check.
A couple of notes:

The directories listed with "NR" in them should have started with "NR",
otherwise there are sorting issues.
The folders should be named something like this:
NR01-15
NR_PREV

Also I found some software that appears to do most everything one would need.

It's free and you can download it at:

http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/
follow the first link that says "click here to install"
I haven't completely tested it but I have converted a wav to a mp3, recorded my
voice, and did basic editing on the wav.

The install will take a while if you don't have a high speed connection.
Be patient... if you check more than one component to be installed it will
install all of them but will appear as though you should intervene to make it
continue.... just let it go on it's own; or possibly check only one component at
a time.

Praise the Name of the Most High!!!
In Him,

Rusty



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Op 23-feb-05 om 20:21 heeft Bible Memory List het volgende geschreven:

> For the person who had a lot of travel time and was hearing impaired,
> I find that if I use a larger font, it is fairly easy to review in the
> car. Of course, I am not in really heavy traffic.  It just takes a
> quick glance at the card to verify if you are saying the verse
> correctly or to get help on one you are memorizing.

Please keep safety in mind. We long to meet our Saviour, but let us not take a
shortcut :-) Consider taking public transportation if you want to combine visual
memorisation techniques with traveling, or stick to audio for those who are able
to use that. I know a fellow christian who was arrested for good reason: he was
caught reading a book while driving on a highway! There are many good things to
do when driving:
recalling passages to see if you remember them well enough, brainstorming on how
to visualise Bible texts to remember them beter, praying (with your eyes open).
But we should never let our zeal endanger ourselves and others.

Terry


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Good Morning (or afternoon)

At this point there are 329 active members on the Biblememory Discussion List.
However, since the list was restarted from its five month period of inactivity
there have been posts 33 different members.

This list is now in its 8th year.  Over the years I have noticed a trend repeat
itself again and again.  A few people place messages on the list and there is a
flurry of activity for a week or so then nothing for a couple of weeks or more.

The purpose of the list is to have an slow, ongoing, continuing, wide-area
discussion on the topic of Scripture Memorization.

If it is possible I would like to see more members participate in the
conversation and to have shorter and fewer periods of inactivity.  Of course I
do not want to see all 329 members talk at once, but I think that there are
members who never post to the list who have things they could share or questions
they could ask.

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Good Morning (or afternoon)

At this point there are 329 active members on the Biblememory Discussion List.
However, since the list was restarted from its five month period of inactivity
there have been posts 33 different members.

This list is now in its 8th year.  Over the years I have noticed a trend repeat
itself again and again.  A few people place messages on the list and there is a
flurry of activity for a week or so then nothing for a couple of weeks or more.

The purpose of the list is to have an slow, ongoing, continuing, wide-area
discussion on the topic of Scripture Memorization.

If it is possible I would like to see more members participate in the
conversation and to have shorter and fewer periods of inactivity.  Of course I
do not want to see all 329 members talk at once, but I think that there are
members who never post to the list who have things they could share or questions
they could ask.

Stephen Simpson
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