Sent: February 13, 2005 9:16 PM Subject: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List Greetings, It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long. Now however, I would like to get things going again ... > If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with the words > "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top of the body of the > message. I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture. How is everybody doing? What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months? What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others? Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 13, 2005 9:16 PM Subject: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List Greetings, It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long. Now however, I would like to get things going again ... > If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with the words > "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top of the body of the > message. I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture. How is everybody doing? What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months? What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others? Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List Things have been extremely busy around here as well. However, I am glad you are energizing this list again as I have been needing some encouragement to move to the next level. Right now I have about 900 verses memorized and I review them each week. However, I just don't seem to have room in my brain to memorize any more. Any thoughts on how to move forward? Also, how are folks using their memorized verses to meditate on scripture. I'd be interested in some ideas. Best Regards, Lorry Schoenly E-mail: lorryschoenly()earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:16 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Greetings, It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long. Now however, I would like to get things going again ... > If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with the words > "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top of the body of the > message. I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture. How is everybody doing? What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months? What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others? Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: New member From: Bible Memory List I am an Awana leader & commander. I earned my citatation award by doing 14 books several years ago & am working on my second one. Have memorized about 800 verses so far Jodi -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List Sent: Feb 14, 2005 9:35 AM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: New member Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join and have a group of Christians with which to memorize large sections of the Bible. I am homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want to teach them as well. Hope to get to know you all soon!! Thanks, Michele ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: New member From: Bible Memory List Hi, Michele!   It is good to hear from you - I have memorized chapters, occasionally, and hope to get back to memorizing larger portions of scritpture, but for the next 40 days ro so will be focusing on individual verses, or short portions.  Let me know what you are working on - I need some ideas for larger portions for after this period - I had been working on the 119 Psalm, but had to take a break when my life became too hectic - I have the first few stanzas memorized, but will have to review them.   I homeschooled our four children, and now that they have all grown up they have each one thanked me for doing so.  When they started college they were amazed at how easy it was for them, plus, there were a lot of problems they did not get into that I think would have been more dificult to avoid had they been in the public school.  Hang in there - I know there will be some tough days, but it will be worth it!   Let me hear when you can, Denna Bible Memory List wrote: Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join and have a group of Christians with which to memorize large sections of the Bible. I am homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want to teach them as well. Hope to get to know you all soon!! Thanks, Michele ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ji bjabinaugural.html"Jib Jab's 'Second Term' ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: BibleMem: Scripture songs From: Bible Memory List Michelle, one of the best ways to get young children excited about Scripture memory is through Scripture songs. If you prefer the NIV, some of the best are "NIV Kids Club" and "GT and the Halo Express" If you prefer the King James, you can use "Thy Word Productions" Steve Green also has two videos/cds out with Scripture Memory songs using various translations. Phil Walker --- Bible Memory List wrote: > Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join > and have a group of Christians with which to memorize large sections > of the Bible. I am homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want > to teach them as well. Hope to get to know you all soon!! Thanks, > Michele > > > > > ========================================================================== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" > in the subject > > ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 2:33 PM Subject: BibleMem: Know yourself spiritually and physically From: Bible Memory List Hi Stephen and others, At the moment I really discovered the importance to know yourself. Both spiritually and physically. Memorization can really help in your walk with the Lord. But we have to be careful to memorize the right texts. What is our argument to choose a text to memorize? Is it to boost of our huge Bible knowledge so we can show off to everyone that we 'even' know that verse? Or is it exactly the verse the Lord wants us to know by heart? The verse that we struggle with and makes us feel we have a long way to go with the Lord in this exact area. I personally believe that there is no text in the Bible that is 'theory only'. Even the genealogies were intended to indicate the right person to do a ministry. There is no theoretical knowledge needed to be able to enter the Kingdom. So if God is trying to change me, I should listen to the texts He wants me to hear. It is also important to know yourself physically. How is your brain functioning? People tend to have preferences in memorization techniques; so let's use that. People often use the phrase 'photographic memory' when they mean 'very good memory'. But it is rather a description of how that brain prefers to remember things: by pictures! People like that have bad luck when it comes to Bible memorization; there are no pictures in most Bibles. They often have to create their own mental pictures when they try to memorize the Bible. But there is much more your brain can prefer to remember. Some prefer written text. I personally am an audio person. At school I never did my homework because I didn't need to (my teachers disagreed on that...). If I visited the lessons, I listened to the explanation of the teacher and that was sufficient for me to pass tests, including my exams. Even now I remember a lot of what these teachers said to me almost 20 years ago. I should use that in Bible memorization. So I mainly use audio bibles. There are plenty. For Dutch speaking persons like me, there is http://www.voorleesbijbel.nl/ My English speaking brothers and sisters may use http://www.audiotreasure.com/ Other languages, including Hebrew old testament for the original text users: http://www.audioscripture.com/ And a greek new testament is found at http://www.ccel.org/a/anonymous/gnt/home.html Pronounced better, but (for now) incomplete greek and latin new testament: http://www.greeklatinaudio.com/ This is what is freely available, ready to download and use. But there are also good products available commercially, or you could ask libraries for the blind if they have audio bibles available to seeing persons as well. Synthetic speech can be a 'last resort' if your favorite translation is not available... OK, enough about audio bibles. What I try to say is that it is useful to investigate how your memory works and use that. It can really be frustrating otherwise. Terry ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 10:36 AM Subject: BibleMem: New member From: Bible Memory List Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join and have a group of Christians with which to memorize large sections of the Bible. I am homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want to teach them as well. Hope to get to know you all soon!! Thanks, Michele ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 2:33 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List I definately would like to be invovled with this list, however right now my memorizing has been stagnating to a point.  God has been dealing with me the last week or so on this, that I need to get back with the review and learning new verses, so your mail came just in time to confirm what He has been saying.   I had been memorizing a verse a day for a period, but then life became hectic (I became ill, my husband developed health problems, I begans taking 11 graduate hours while working full time, I am having to drive 800-1000 miles a week, and just life in general).  I am starting tomorrow with a 40 day Lent project - I do one each year - and will be focusing on praise and worship, and plan on memorizing 40 new verses during this period.  I would like to ask for prayer, that God give me the ability and keep me focused, not allowing me to be distracted from this by all the other requirements of my life.   I am looking forward to hearing from others about what they are doing, how they are accomplishing it, and the changes that have been made in their lives as a result of hiding His word in their hearts.   Denna Bible Memory List wrote: Greetings, It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long. Now however, I would like to get things going again ... > If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with the words > "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top of the body of the > message. I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture. How is everybody doing? What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months? What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others? Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List Dear Stephen: The Lord has been working in my life, and I praise Him for it. For one thing, He has given me a deep desire to memorize His words. I am memorizing books of the Bible, and am in chapter 8 of Romans. At times it seems too hard to be a Bible memory fanatic. I want to be an encouragement to others interested in Bible memory, and hopefully, your ministry will be a source of encouragement to me. Please visit my site, www.PursuingLife.com, sometime. It's a discipleship site devoted to Bible Memory enthusiasts. May Jesus Christ by praised! Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 8:16 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Greetings, It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long. Now however, I would like to get things going again ... > If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with the words > "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top of the body of the > message. I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture. How is everybody doing? What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months? What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others? Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List To the members of the Bible Memory List, The past few months have been busy for me with regards to bible memory.  I recently (October) got my website up at http://www.word2life.com which is Bible memory and Bible presentation centric.  Also I've determine to embark on a challenging Bible memory task this year; that is, I've determined to memorize Proverbs 10 - 31.  God has impressed upon me that I need to grow in wisdom and what better way to gain wisdom than to memorize Proverbs!  I'm moving along at a rate of about 2 verses a day and spend 10 to 12 hours a week on the project.  By employing Supermemo and various mneumonic techiques I'm confident that the task is doable and that the verses will be lodged in memory for life. In Christ David Baldwin Bible Memory List wrote: Greetings, It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List.  During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work.  (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long. Now however, I would like to get things going again ...    If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with  the words "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top  of the body of the  message.     I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture. How is everybody doing? What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months? What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others? Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: New member From: Bible Memory List I also home-school and would love to be a part of this group.    I really look forward to sharing with the people on this list in the word.  I love to memorize scripture.  I really desire to get back into it and need motivation.  I have two little ones and one on the way.  I'm trying to memorize Acts...it's been an ongoing project that is taking way too long.  I know that it is ultimately in the Lord's hands, but as I said, I do need encouragement and motivation, which is why I joined this group.  I've memorized Philippians, which is a much smaller book and it didn't take me near this long.  All I know is that memorizing puts my mind on the things of God and changes my outlook completely.  As a busy mother it is a wonderful way to be renewed daily in the word.  It also greatly influences my dealings with others, especially my children.  Well, gotta run.  Hope to hear from you all.   Love in Jesus ----- Original Message ----- From: HYPERLINK "mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org"Bible Memory List To: HYPERLINK "mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org"biblememory()memoryverses.org Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 7:35 AM Subject: BibleMem: New member Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join and have a group of Christians with which to memorize large sections of the Bible. I am homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want to teach them as well. Hope to get to know you all soon!! Thanks, Michele ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: New member From: Bible Memory List Dear Friends, Greetings from Leicester, UK! I work with a Sunday School group for 5-7 year olds, and am very keen to have the children memorising a verse a month in a one-year cycle - so 12 verses altogether. John 3:16, John 14:6 and Acts 1:8 already memorised (allegedly...) I would be very interested in members' views on THE 12 verses to go for. If (as I hope) this generates a fair bit of correspondence, remember that any additional verse requires another to be jettisoned! With many thanks for your help and very best wishes, Geoff Dr Geoff Tennant Mathematics Education Lecturer School of Education 21 University Road ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 2:33 PM Subject: BibleMem: Scripture memory From: Bible Memory List New web site: www.scripturememorychallenge.org Memorizing and Loving it Dear memorizing friends, Hi. My name is Phil Walker. I have been a member for a couple years now and always enjoy reading how God is at work in your lives in the area of Scripture memory. My most recent memorized chapters are ISAIAH 53 (25 of us at Upton Lake Christian School in Clinton Corners, NY memorized this as a school project) and ISAIAH 6 (in joining one of my students who decided on his own to memorize this.) Both have long been on my "someday" list, and it was a thrill to get them. The majesty of God (6) and the glorious suffering of Christ (53) have given me some wonderful things to meditate on. I would like to encourage you to visit my website www.scripturememorychallenge.org The main feature is the New Testament One Year Challenge where I hope, Lord willing, to soon have thousands of Christians around the world memorizing one key verse from every chapter of the New Testament in a year. We also have HAKOTS - Hearts After Key Old Testament Scripture - who are doing the same with the OT. I would love any help any of you could give me in spreading the word about the New Testament One Year Challenge (new groups start every Sept and Jan 1st.) to those you know who might be interested as well as those of you who have websites who would be willing to link to www.scripturememorychallenge.org Finally, I would like to encourage you to consider church Scripture memory. I approached the pastor a year ago and he supported the idea. He picks the passage and we go at a very slow pace. In 2004 we only learned 5 short passages (Ex 34:5-7, 19:5-6, Rom 5:6-8, Ps 63:1-4, and Is 9:6-7) At times it has been frustrating. After the initial novelty of the idea got 38 (out of about 120 church attenders) to learn the first passage, it dropped quickly with less than 20 having learned the last two. To begin this new year, the pastor wanted to start with just ACTS 1:8. I thought that was pretty wimpy, but went along. It has been truly wonderful to see people struggle intensly with, but finally memorize that one verse. We are at 48 who have quoted it. I am praying that God will make the truth of ACTS 1:8 real in our church It has also been eye-opening to realize that many in the church are convinced that they can not possibly memorize that one verse, or at least it is not worth the enormous effort. Can I encourage you to think about starting a church wide Scripture memory program in your church as we help our "Christian" culture know and appreciate what our God has to say. In Christ, your fellow servant and Scripture enthusiast, Phil Walker phil()scripturememorychallenge.org PS With help from a local pizza shop who let me have $15 gift certificates at a reduced price, we got 11 church members to quote from memory all 5 of the 2004 passages in one sitting. Praise God!! > ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List Things have been extremely busy around here as well. However, I am glad you are energizing this list again as I have been needing some encouragement to move to the next level. Right now I have about 900 verses memorized and I review them each week. However, I just don't seem to have room in my brain to memorize any more. Any thoughts on how to move forward? Also, how are folks using their memorized verses to meditate on scripture. I'd be interested in some ideas. Best Regards, Lorry Schoenly E-mail: lorryschoenly()earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:16 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Greetings, It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long. Now however, I would like to get things going again ... > If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with the words > "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top of the body of the > message. I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture. How is everybody doing? What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months? What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others? Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: New member From: Bible Memory List I am an Awana leader & commander. I earned my citatation award by doing 14 books several years ago & am working on my second one. Have memorized about 800 verses so far Jodi -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List Sent: Feb 14, 2005 9:35 AM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: New member Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join and have a group of Christians with which to memorize large sections of the Bible. I am homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want to teach them as well. Hope to get to know you all soon!! Thanks, Michele ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: New member From: Bible Memory List Hi, Michele!   It is good to hear from you - I have memorized chapters, occasionally, and hope to get back to memorizing larger portions of scritpture, but for the next 40 days ro so will be focusing on individual verses, or short portions.  Let me know what you are working on - I need some ideas for larger portions for after this period - I had been working on the 119 Psalm, but had to take a break when my life became too hectic - I have the first few stanzas memorized, but will have to review them.   I homeschooled our four children, and now that they have all grown up they have each one thanked me for doing so.  When they started college they were amazed at how easy it was for them, plus, there were a lot of problems they did not get into that I think would have been more dificult to avoid had they been in the public school.  Hang in there - I know there will be some tough days, but it will be worth it!   Let me hear when you can, Denna Bible Memory List wrote: Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join and have a group of Christians with which to memorize large sections of the Bible. I am homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want to teach them as well. Hope to get to know you all soon!! Thanks, Michele ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ji bjabinaugural.html"Jib Jab's 'Second Term' ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: BibleMem: Scripture songs From: Bible Memory List Michelle, one of the best ways to get young children excited about Scripture memory is through Scripture songs. If you prefer the NIV, some of the best are "NIV Kids Club" and "GT and the Halo Express" If you prefer the King James, you can use "Thy Word Productions" Steve Green also has two videos/cds out with Scripture Memory songs using various translations. Phil Walker --- Bible Memory List wrote: > Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join > and have a group of Christians with which to memorize large sections > of the Bible. I am homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want > to teach them as well. Hope to get to know you all soon!! Thanks, > Michele > > > > > ========================================================================== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" > in the subject > > ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 2:33 PM Subject: BibleMem: Know yourself spiritually and physically From: Bible Memory List Hi Stephen and others, At the moment I really discovered the importance to know yourself. Both spiritually and physically. Memorization can really help in your walk with the Lord. But we have to be careful to memorize the right texts. What is our argument to choose a text to memorize? Is it to boost of our huge Bible knowledge so we can show off to everyone that we 'even' know that verse? Or is it exactly the verse the Lord wants us to know by heart? The verse that we struggle with and makes us feel we have a long way to go with the Lord in this exact area. I personally believe that there is no text in the Bible that is 'theory only'. Even the genealogies were intended to indicate the right person to do a ministry. There is no theoretical knowledge needed to be able to enter the Kingdom. So if God is trying to change me, I should listen to the texts He wants me to hear. It is also important to know yourself physically. How is your brain functioning? People tend to have preferences in memorization techniques; so let's use that. People often use the phrase 'photographic memory' when they mean 'very good memory'. But it is rather a description of how that brain prefers to remember things: by pictures! People like that have bad luck when it comes to Bible memorization; there are no pictures in most Bibles. They often have to create their own mental pictures when they try to memorize the Bible. But there is much more your brain can prefer to remember. Some prefer written text. I personally am an audio person. At school I never did my homework because I didn't need to (my teachers disagreed on that...). If I visited the lessons, I listened to the explanation of the teacher and that was sufficient for me to pass tests, including my exams. Even now I remember a lot of what these teachers said to me almost 20 years ago. I should use that in Bible memorization. So I mainly use audio bibles. There are plenty. For Dutch speaking persons like me, there is http://www.voorleesbijbel.nl/ My English speaking brothers and sisters may use http://www.audiotreasure.com/ Other languages, including Hebrew old testament for the original text users: http://www.audioscripture.com/ And a greek new testament is found at http://www.ccel.org/a/anonymous/gnt/home.html Pronounced better, but (for now) incomplete greek and latin new testament: http://www.greeklatinaudio.com/ This is what is freely available, ready to download and use. But there are also good products available commercially, or you could ask libraries for the blind if they have audio bibles available to seeing persons as well. Synthetic speech can be a 'last resort' if your favorite translation is not available... OK, enough about audio bibles. What I try to say is that it is useful to investigate how your memory works and use that. It can really be frustrating otherwise. Terry ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 10:36 AM Subject: BibleMem: New member From: Bible Memory List Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join and have a group of Christians with which to memorize large sections of the Bible. I am homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want to teach them as well. Hope to get to know you all soon!! Thanks, Michele ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 2:33 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List I definately would like to be invovled with this list, however right now my memorizing has been stagnating to a point.  God has been dealing with me the last week or so on this, that I need to get back with the review and learning new verses, so your mail came just in time to confirm what He has been saying.   I had been memorizing a verse a day for a period, but then life became hectic (I became ill, my husband developed health problems, I begans taking 11 graduate hours while working full time, I am having to drive 800-1000 miles a week, and just life in general).  I am starting tomorrow with a 40 day Lent project - I do one each year - and will be focusing on praise and worship, and plan on memorizing 40 new verses during this period.  I would like to ask for prayer, that God give me the ability and keep me focused, not allowing me to be distracted from this by all the other requirements of my life.   I am looking forward to hearing from others about what they are doing, how they are accomplishing it, and the changes that have been made in their lives as a result of hiding His word in their hearts.   Denna Bible Memory List wrote: Greetings, It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long. Now however, I would like to get things going again ... > If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with the words > "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top of the body of the > message. I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture. How is everybody doing? What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months? What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others? Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List Dear Stephen: The Lord has been working in my life, and I praise Him for it. For one thing, He has given me a deep desire to memorize His words. I am memorizing books of the Bible, and am in chapter 8 of Romans. At times it seems too hard to be a Bible memory fanatic. I want to be an encouragement to others interested in Bible memory, and hopefully, your ministry will be a source of encouragement to me. Please visit my site, www.PursuingLife.com, sometime. It's a discipleship site devoted to Bible Memory enthusiasts. May Jesus Christ by praised! Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 8:16 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Greetings, It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long. Now however, I would like to get things going again ... > If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with the words > "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top of the body of the > message. I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture. How is everybody doing? What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months? What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others? Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List To the members of the Bible Memory List, The past few months have been busy for me with regards to bible memory.  I recently (October) got my website up at http://www.word2life.com which is Bible memory and Bible presentation centric.  Also I've determine to embark on a challenging Bible memory task this year; that is, I've determined to memorize Proverbs 10 - 31.  God has impressed upon me that I need to grow in wisdom and what better way to gain wisdom than to memorize Proverbs!  I'm moving along at a rate of about 2 verses a day and spend 10 to 12 hours a week on the project.  By employing Supermemo and various mneumonic techiques I'm confident that the task is doable and that the verses will be lodged in memory for life. In Christ David Baldwin Bible Memory List wrote: Greetings, It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List.  During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work.  (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long. Now however, I would like to get things going again ...    If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with  the words "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top  of the body of the  message.     I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture. How is everybody doing? What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months? What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others? Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: New member From: Bible Memory List I also home-school and would love to be a part of this group.    I really look forward to sharing with the people on this list in the word.  I love to memorize scripture.  I really desire to get back into it and need motivation.  I have two little ones and one on the way.  I'm trying to memorize Acts...it's been an ongoing project that is taking way too long.  I know that it is ultimately in the Lord's hands, but as I said, I do need encouragement and motivation, which is why I joined this group.  I've memorized Philippians, which is a much smaller book and it didn't take me near this long.  All I know is that memorizing puts my mind on the things of God and changes my outlook completely.  As a busy mother it is a wonderful way to be renewed daily in the word.  It also greatly influences my dealings with others, especially my children.  Well, gotta run.  Hope to hear from you all.   Love in Jesus ----- Original Message ----- From: HYPERLINK "mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org"Bible Memory List To: HYPERLINK "mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org"biblememory()memoryverses.org Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 7:35 AM Subject: BibleMem: New member Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join and have a group of Christians with which to memorize large sections of the Bible. I am homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want to teach them as well. Hope to get to know you all soon!! Thanks, Michele ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: New member From: Bible Memory List Dear Friends, Greetings from Leicester, UK! I work with a Sunday School group for 5-7 year olds, and am very keen to have the children memorising a verse a month in a one-year cycle - so 12 verses altogether. John 3:16, John 14:6 and Acts 1:8 already memorised (allegedly...) I would be very interested in members' views on THE 12 verses to go for. If (as I hope) this generates a fair bit of correspondence, remember that any additional verse requires another to be jettisoned! With many thanks for your help and very best wishes, Geoff Dr Geoff Tennant Mathematics Education Lecturer School of Education 21 University Road ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 14, 2005 2:33 PM Subject: BibleMem: Scripture memory From: Bible Memory List New web site: www.scripturememorychallenge.org Memorizing and Loving it Dear memorizing friends, Hi. My name is Phil Walker. I have been a member for a couple years now and always enjoy reading how God is at work in your lives in the area of Scripture memory. My most recent memorized chapters are ISAIAH 53 (25 of us at Upton Lake Christian School in Clinton Corners, NY memorized this as a school project) and ISAIAH 6 (in joining one of my students who decided on his own to memorize this.) Both have long been on my "someday" list, and it was a thrill to get them. The majesty of God (6) and the glorious suffering of Christ (53) have given me some wonderful things to meditate on. I would like to encourage you to visit my website www.scripturememorychallenge.org The main feature is the New Testament One Year Challenge where I hope, Lord willing, to soon have thousands of Christians around the world memorizing one key verse from every chapter of the New Testament in a year. We also have HAKOTS - Hearts After Key Old Testament Scripture - who are doing the same with the OT. I would love any help any of you could give me in spreading the word about the New Testament One Year Challenge (new groups start every Sept and Jan 1st.) to those you know who might be interested as well as those of you who have websites who would be willing to link to www.scripturememorychallenge.org Finally, I would like to encourage you to consider church Scripture memory. I approached the pastor a year ago and he supported the idea. He picks the passage and we go at a very slow pace. In 2004 we only learned 5 short passages (Ex 34:5-7, 19:5-6, Rom 5:6-8, Ps 63:1-4, and Is 9:6-7) At times it has been frustrating. After the initial novelty of the idea got 38 (out of about 120 church attenders) to learn the first passage, it dropped quickly with less than 20 having learned the last two. To begin this new year, the pastor wanted to start with just ACTS 1:8. I thought that was pretty wimpy, but went along. It has been truly wonderful to see people struggle intensly with, but finally memorize that one verse. We are at 48 who have quoted it. I am praying that God will make the truth of ACTS 1:8 real in our church It has also been eye-opening to realize that many in the church are convinced that they can not possibly memorize that one verse, or at least it is not worth the enormous effort. Can I encourage you to think about starting a church wide Scripture memory program in your church as we help our "Christian" culture know and appreciate what our God has to say. In Christ, your fellow servant and Scripture enthusiast, Phil Walker phil()scripturememorychallenge.org PS With help from a local pizza shop who let me have $15 gift certificates at a reduced price, we got 11 church members to quote from memory all 5 of the 2004 passages in one sitting. Praise God!! > ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List Stephen, I made a huge undertaking for me, but am about to claim success. I have memorized the book of Philippians. Your programs have been especially helpful with the "tricky" parts that I have to nail down. I listen to the book of Philippians usually twice a day: on the way to work and on the way back. I started it well over a year ago, but really didn't give it much effort until the past couple of months. Sue ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: Scripture songs From: Bible Memory List Yes, scripture songs are a great way to memorize Bible verses. Please visit www.pursuinglife.com and go to "Links" for several links to free audio bibles and some great Scripture songs sites. Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich lavern()pursuinglife.com www.pursuinglife.com A discipleship website devoted to Bible memory. -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 4:43 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Scripture songs Michelle, one of the best ways to get young children excited about Scripture memory is through Scripture songs. If you prefer the NIV, some of the best are "NIV Kids Club" and "GT and the Halo Express" If you prefer the King James, you can use "Thy Word Productions" Steve Green also has two videos/cds out with Scripture Memory songs using various translations. Phil Walker --- Bible Memory List wrote: > Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join > and have a group of Christians with which to memorize large sections > of the Bible. I am homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want > to teach them as well. Hope to get to know you all soon!! Thanks, > Michele > > > > > ========================================================================== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" > in the subject > > ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 4:42 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Re: Scripture songs From: Bible Memory List Ok, I am intimidated, LOL! I am interested in memorizing and have a few good tips now. Actually just went and ordered a Steve Green CD, thanks for that tip! I know a few songs from my childhood....1 John 4:7-8 was a song my Mom and I would do at nursing homes. I have a terrible memory, so it is imposing to me to 'memorize'. And then just 'finding' one that I want to keep. My husband got me a verse-a-day calendar and I have been looking at those. Did find one from yesterday, took it to work and hung it in my cubicle, and of course could NOT tell you what it is now. I have the Bible on tape also. Trying to get thru the Bible, as I have never done that. Up to 2 Chronicles 30 right now. I am back to church after 25yrs of not going, so that is a blessing in itself!!!! Purpose Driven Life can be given the credit for 'getting' me to go find a church, and I have been going a year in March!!! I am 40, and also have a 3yr daughter at home and a 20yr old son at college. Work 2 part-time jobs and working towards a degree in court reporting, so very busy here. Would enjoy thoughts on 'where' is a good place to start? Thank you! Rhoda "Live one day at a time. While you can plan for tomorrow, you can't live it until it arrives. Most people spend so much time regretting the past and worrying about the future, they have no time to enjoy today!" Rick Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bible Memory List" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Scripture songs I was just going to say, our speaker last night said he met a Presbyterian family last year who only sing Psalms. As a result, their children, not yet grown, have over half the psalms memorized! I started memorizing 1 Peter probably over a year ago - when I got almost to the end of the 2nd chapter I let various distractions get in the way, and have not soldiered through. Aside from an obvious enemy who would discourage the process, and my own weak flesh, I wonder if it is because I chose it without enough prayer and should have picked another book. I'm not so sure of my "hearing" at times, how have others known for sure what to memorize? Grace, Deborah > > > >> >> >> >> >> >======================================================================= >=== > > >>To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" >>in the subject >> >> >> >> > >======================================================================= >=== > >To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > > > -- "One can no more detach God's sovereign transcendence from his personhood, or vice versa, than one can safely detach one wing from an airplane and still expect it to fly." DA Carson ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: staying the course From: Bible Memory List It is so wonderful to be part of this group!  I have longed for a place where I could share with others who are of like minds regarding scripture memory.  Seeing all of the e-mails begin to filter through, has been such a comfort to me recently.  It is motivating, to say the least.  God knew I needed it!  I usually don't share with others regarding how much or what portions of the bible I have memorized, because I absolutely do not want to sound boastful. I love the word with all my heart and am thankful for the ability to memorize.  However, I am truly glad that I can feel comfortable here to share what is on my heart and what I'm memorizing.  Has anyone memorized the book of Acts?  I started it a couple of years ago, but have not been able to stay the course.  I am so eager to get to the chapter about Stephen's testimony.  However, I have had a lot of trouble staying motivated with memorization since becoming the mother of two, with one on the way, and having some health problems as well.  What are some good suggestions to sticking with it?  I do pray about it and the desire is there.  I have memorized large portions of scripture in the past, but I feel somewhat discouraged about not being able to go forward with Acts. I've made it to about chapter 5, but will need some review.  I think just being a part of this group will help...I know it will.  However, I would love any suggestions or just for someone to share their own exp. with struggling to stay at it and what God showed them.   Thanks. ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: About Church Bible Memory Projects From: Bible Memory List I tried doing a Bible Memory Group in our church. At first, there were about 10 people "seriously" interested. Pretty good for a congregation with membership just over a hundred. needless to say, only 1-3 and people showed up for our monthly meetings, seven meetings total. Actually, at the last meeting it was just me sitting there for an hour. It is really pitiful, the lack of diligence in our culture to do what we know we ought to do and even what we want to do. I announced the end of the group as a result of inadequate attendance and participation. Even the people that showed up would have not memorized even one thing, and what kind of meeting can be made out of that? Glad to have found a community on the web that can be some real community and accountability for me on this. -Meg -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List Sent: Feb 14, 2005 2:32 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Scripture memory New web site: www.scripturememorychallenge.org Memorizing and Loving it Dear memorizing friends, Hi. My name is Phil Walker. I have been a member for a couple years now and always enjoy reading how God is at work in your lives in the area of Scripture memory. My most recent memorized chapters are ISAIAH 53 (25 of us at Upton Lake Christian School in Clinton Corners, NY memorized this as a school project) and ISAIAH 6 (in joining one of my students who decided on his own to memorize this.) Both have long been on my "someday" list, and it was a thrill to get them. The majesty of God (6) and the glorious suffering of Christ (53) have given me some wonderful things to meditate on. I would like to encourage you to visit my website www.scripturememorychallenge.org The main feature is the New Testament One Year Challenge where I hope, Lord willing, to soon have thousands of Christians around the world memorizing one key verse from every chapter of the New Testament in a year. We also have HAKOTS - Hearts After Key Old Testament Scripture - who are doing the same with the OT. I would love any help any of you could give me in spreading the word about the New Testament One Year Challenge (new groups start every Sept and Jan 1st.) to those you know who might be interested as well as those of you who have websites who would be willing to link to www.scripturememorychallenge.org Finally, I would like to encourage you to consider church Scripture memory. I approached the pastor a year ago and he supported the idea. He picks the passage and we go at a very slow pace. In 2004 we only learned 5 short passages (Ex 34:5-7, 19:5-6, Rom 5:6-8, Ps 63:1-4, and Is 9:6-7) At times it has been frustrating. After the initial novelty of the idea got 38 (out of about 120 church attenders) to learn the first passage, it dropped quickly with less than 20 having learned the last two. To begin this new year, the pastor wanted to start with just ACTS 1:8. I thought that was pretty wimpy, but went along. It has been truly wonderful to see people struggle intensly with, but finally memorize that one verse. We are at 48 who have quoted it. I am praying that God will make the truth of ACTS 1:8 real in our church It has also been eye-opening to realize that many in the church are convinced that they can not possibly memorize that one verse, or at least it is not worth the enormous effort. Can I encourage you to think about starting a church wide Scripture memory program in your church as we help our "Christian" culture know and appreciate what our God has to say. In Christ, your fellow servant and Scripture enthusiast, Phil Walker phil()scripturememorychallenge.org PS With help from a local pizza shop who let me have $15 gift certificates at a reduced price, we got 11 church members to quote from memory all 5 of the 2004 passages in one sitting. Praise God!! > ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 4:42 PM Subject: BibleMem: Questions From: Bible Memory List I have three questions: 1. Is this group going to be memorizing verses together or are we on our own as to what we'll be memorizing? I'd love to have a group where we can encourage each other as we're memorizing together. 2. For my two young children, does anyone know of a good program for them (musically maybe?) that's in NIV? 3. Has anyone tried the Bible on DVD? I've seen it on tv and my husband and I have thought of ordering it. Any good reviews of such a program? Thanks and I'm so excited to be here! Michele ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Re: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List Denna your honesty is so refreshing!  I too am a full time graduate student and struggle with scripture memorization. I will be in prayer for you for victory in that area. Please do the same for me.  My daughter and I are on a 40-day renewing of the mind with scriptures time of consecration which began yesterday  The desire to be faithful in scripture memory is half the battle.  Maybe during your 40-day consecration time you might wish to focus on scripture that will allow you to renew your mind in specific areas. Blessings Mel ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Re: New member From: Bible Memory List Hi dear all I was wondering what happened with the memoryverses.org as there has been a long silence. am a pastor from india, but now working in a ministry in USA where part of my family moved in recently- when i said part - i still have my elder and minor children still in india. i found one of the best way to remember verses is to use one verse daily in any communication you make to other christians.. letters or e-mails.. i remember when i was a small boy, my eldest brother who was serving in indian army used to write letters whome - of course these letters comes once in a month- and all letters have one verse on the top. how do you all likes this idea?? and this will make us memorise the verse as well as the person on the other side? pls share your views, and my e-mail in this part of the world is - equipindia()sbcglobal.net - Blessings. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bible Memory List Date: Monday, February 14, 2005 2:43 pm Subject: BibleMem: Re: New member > I am an Awana leader & commander. I earned my citatation award by > doing 14 books several years ago & am working on my second one. Have > memorized about 800 verses so far Jodi > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bible Memory List > Sent: Feb 14, 2005 9:35 AM > To: biblememory()memoryverses.org > Subject: BibleMem: New member > > Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join > and have a group of Christians with which to memorize large sections > of the Bible. I am homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want > to teach them as well. Hope to get to know you all soon!! Thanks, > Michele > > > > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 4:42 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Re: Welcome to the Scripture Memory Email List From: Bible Memory List Pastor Jeff, it was good to hear about your interest in Revelation and in mixing theater with Scripture memory. Have you seen or heard of Marquis Laughlin. He does a dramatic presentation of Revelation word for word in the NIV. He is based in Orlando, Florida with Sola Scriptura and also travels around the country. In Christ, Phil Walker --- Bible Memory List wrote: > Hello!! > > I am very excited about joining a group of like minded Christians > looking to memorize large sections of the Bible and relying on each > other for ideas, support and wisdom. I'm a Pastor who also has a full > time job in transportation management. I have a deep love for > prophecy and eschatology...end time events. I'm working on memorizing > scripture related to the prophecies that Christ has fulfilled and to > memorize the book of Revelation. I have a long background in theatre > so I employ theatrical memorizing techniques when memorizing large > blocks of scripture...kind of like a one man play and developing > different characters for each person speaking or being spoken about. > I do need any suggestions as this tends to be time consuming (though > great fun!) and I'd love to learn how to memorize scripture using > techniques that you speak about.... > > I look forward to the correspondence and seeing everyone continue to > grow closer to God.... > In Christ; > Pastor Jeff > > > > > "Bible Memory List" > > > > verses.org> cc: > > > Subject: Welcome to the > Scripture Memory Email List > > 02/14/2005 07:49 AM > > > > > > > > jconner()bart.gov has been added to the biblemem mailing list. > > > NOTE: > > You may have requested to be subscribed to this list some time ago. > I was unavailble to tend to the list for several weeks. > If you do not wish to be subscribed to this list, please reply to this > list and say > "Unsubscribe BibleMem" in the subject. - Thanks > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > Welcome to the Bible Memory Discussion List > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > "How can a young man keep his way pure? By living according to your > word. > I > seek you with all my heart; do not let me stray from your commands. I > have > hidden your word in my heart that I might not > sin against you." > Psalm 119:9-11 > > > The Bible memory list is designed to encourage friendly discussion on > the > topic of Bible memorization. Please post a > message to the list to > introduce yourself. Messages to the list should be sent to: > > biblememory()memoryverses.org > > If you read through the scriptures, you will easily see that knowledge > of the word of God is vital to a close relationship with God. Of > course, head knowledge alone is not good enough. It must be > understood and applied to your life. Meditation, prayer and Bible > study play a key role in understanding. Clearly, if you have > memorized portions of the word of God, it makes meditation much more > profitable. Also, all who have grown to a certain level of maturity > must teach the things they know to others. For a brief article on why > scripture memorization is important to the growth of a Christian, you > may want to read my article at http://www.memoryverses.org/why.htm. > > But, to master this discipline is very difficult ... > > Purposes of this list: > > - To collect together a group of people who have a desire to make > the memorization of scripture and meditation on what has been > memorized a significant portion of their lives. > > - I would like to bring together a group of people whose goal is > to commit to memory large portions of Scripture. My ultimate goal, is > to memorize as much of the Bible as I can, and to take as many people > along with me as I can. > > - These people can share ideas, encourage one another, set goals > and be accountable to one another for progress and be praying for one > another. > > - To discuss how we can help others, such as our children, Sunday > School class and Church friends, etc., learn to love memorizing > scripture. > > - To discuss various tools, props and aids which are effective in > the memorization and review of scripture. This includes everything > from verse cards to mnemonic devices. If your goal is to memorize > many chapters of scripture, then the organization and presentation of > the material is critical. These tools and methods must be developed. > > - To discuss how time and other activities can be scheduled to > allow for what we want to accomplish, while still maintaining balance > in all other areas of life. > > - To share the blessings of knowing the word of God. > > - Memorization of information is not enough. It must be learned > permanently, it must be understood and applied. > Review, study and meditation > is a key component of any scripture memory system. > Discussion of these > topics is welcome. > > > LIST INFORMATION > > 1) To post to the entire list, send to biblememory()memoryverses.org > > 2) To unsubscribe from the Bible memory discussion list, send a > message to biblememory()memoryverses.org with the following line in the > body of the > message: > > unsubscribe biblememory > > 3) An text archive of past Bible Memory list posts will be available > through the Scripture Memory Connection web site at: > > http://www.memoryverses.org > > --------------------- > List Guidelines > --------------------- > > It is asked that you follow these guidelines when posting to the list: > > 1) The list is open to all Christians who believe in salvation by > faith alone through the work of Jesus Christ who is our Lord and our > GOD. > === message truncated === ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Scripture songs From: Bible Memory List I was just going to say, our speaker last night said he met a Presbyterian family last year who only sing Psalms. As a result, their children, not yet grown, have over half the psalms memorized! I started memorizing 1 Peter probably over a year ago - when I got almost to the end of the 2nd chapter I let various distractions get in the way, and have not soldiered through. Aside from an obvious enemy who would discourage the process, and my own weak flesh, I wonder if it is because I chose it without enough prayer and should have picked another book. I'm not so sure of my "hearing" at times, how have others known for sure what to memorize? Grace, Deborah > > > >> >> >> >> >> >======================================================================= >=== > > >>To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" >>in the subject >> >> >> >> > >======================================================================= >=== > >To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > > > -- "One can no more detach God’s sovereign transcendence from his personhood, or vice versa, than one can safely detach one wing from an airplane and still expect it to fly." DA Carson ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Welcome to the Scripture Memory Email List From: Bible Memory List Hello!! I am very excited about joining a group of like minded Christians looking to memorize large sections of the Bible and relying on each other for ideas, support and wisdom. I'm a Pastor who also has a full time job in transportation management. I have a deep love for prophecy and eschatology...end time events. I'm working on memorizing scripture related to the prophecies that Christ has fulfilled and to memorize the book of Revelation. I have a long background in theatre so I employ theatrical memorizing techniques when memorizing large blocks of scripture...kind of like a one man play and developing different characters for each person speaking or being spoken about. I do need any suggestions as this tends to be time consuming (though great fun!) and I'd love to learn how to memorize scripture using techniques that you speak about.... I look forward to the correspondence and seeing everyone continue to grow closer to God.... In Christ; Pastor Jeff "Bible Memory List" verses.org> cc: Subject: Welcome to the Scripture Memory Email List 02/14/2005 07:49 AM jconner()bart.gov has been added to the biblemem mailing list. NOTE: You may have requested to be subscribed to this list some time ago. I was unavailble to tend to the list for several weeks. If you do not wish to be subscribed to this list, please reply to this list and say "Unsubscribe BibleMem" in the subject. - Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Welcome to the Bible Memory Discussion List ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- "How can a young man keep his way pure? By living according to your word. I seek you with all my heart; do not let me stray from your commands. I have hidden your word in my heart that I might not sin against you." Psalm 119:9-11 The Bible memory list is designed to encourage friendly discussion on the topic of Bible memorization. Please post a message to the list to introduce yourself. Messages to the list should be sent to: biblememory()memoryverses.org If you read through the scriptures, you will easily see that knowledge of the word of God is vital to a close relationship with God. Of course, head knowledge alone is not good enough. It must be understood and applied to your life. Meditation, prayer and Bible study play a key role in understanding. Clearly, if you have memorized portions of the word of God, it makes meditation much more profitable. Also, all who have grown to a certain level of maturity must teach the things they know to others. For a brief article on why scripture memorization is important to the growth of a Christian, you may want to read my article at http://www.memoryverses.org/why.htm. But, to master this discipline is very difficult ... Purposes of this list: - To collect together a group of people who have a desire to make the memorization of scripture and meditation on what has been memorized a significant portion of their lives. - I would like to bring together a group of people whose goal is to commit to memory large portions of Scripture. My ultimate goal, is to memorize as much of the Bible as I can, and to take as many people along with me as I can. - These people can share ideas, encourage one another, set goals and be accountable to one another for progress and be praying for one another. - To discuss how we can help others, such as our children, Sunday School class and Church friends, etc., learn to love memorizing scripture. - To discuss various tools, props and aids which are effective in the memorization and review of scripture. This includes everything from verse cards to mnemonic devices. If your goal is to memorize many chapters of scripture, then the organization and presentation of the material is critical. These tools and methods must be developed. - To discuss how time and other activities can be scheduled to allow for what we want to accomplish, while still maintaining balance in all other areas of life. - To share the blessings of knowing the word of God. - Memorization of information is not enough. It must be learned permanently, it must be understood and applied. Review, study and meditation is a key component of any scripture memory system. Discussion of these topics is welcome. LIST INFORMATION 1) To post to the entire list, send to biblememory()memoryverses.org 2) To unsubscribe from the Bible memory discussion list, send a message to biblememory()memoryverses.org with the following line in the body of the message: unsubscribe biblememory 3) An text archive of past Bible Memory list posts will be available through the Scripture Memory Connection web site at: http://www.memoryverses.org --------------------- List Guidelines --------------------- It is asked that you follow these guidelines when posting to the list: 1) The list is open to all Christians who believe in salvation by faith alone through the work of Jesus Christ who is our Lord and our GOD. 2) This is not a forum to discuss the merrits of one Bible translation over another. This is also not a forum to discuss theology unless it is directly relevent to the theme of memorization of Scripture as defined above. Please do not stray from this topic. 3) It is assumed that the Bible is the inspired, inerrant, word of God and as such has authority over our lives. 4) Do not send requests for personal information to the entire list. These types of messages should be sent directly to the individual. 5) Do not make negative personal comments to or about any individual on the list. Ideas are fair game for debate, but the individuals who hold these ideas should be treated with respect. 6) Please limit the amount of quoted text when you reply to a somebody's post. Generally a sentence or two is enough. --------- List Owner: Stephen Simpson (ssimpson()memoryverses.org) http://www.memoryverses.org - The Scripture Memory Connection ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: Supermemo for scripture memory-David Baldwin From: Bible Memory List Dear group,   Hello!  My computer crashed and I lost David Baldwin's excellent video example on the internet for using Supermemo to help review scripture.  What is the URL for that David?  Supermemo is a great program.  David, do you have any supermemo collections related to Scripture or Christian things that you would like to share?  My email is HYPERLINK "mailto:gandk14()molalla.net"gandk14()molalla.net   I took all the chapters that I have memorized over the years and recited them for 100 days in a row (mostly).  I got this idea from http://www.fbcdurham.org/writings/Scripmem.htm  Also, Stephen (our moderator) suggests the hundred day idea too.  Now I review them every week or two.  The 100 days idea really helped cement them in my mind.  I timed myself first to see how long it would take to recite one chapter.  To say a chapter it takes about 3 minutes.  I can fit that easily in my day:either all at once (on my walk) or in a few minutes spread throughout the day. .  I had about 40-45 minutes to do for all the scriptures I had memorized.  Since I need exercise anyway, I did this on my walk.  This is a very uplifting walk.  My family is glad I memorize scripture.  They say I am a better mom for it.  Since I feel those scriptures are secure I am starting on Romans 6.  I like memorizing books and chapters better than individual verses.  I found if I make memorizing and reviewing a priority, with the Lord's help, it happens.  I have a large family and I homeschool, so no excuses out there!!  With my children we are memorizing James.  We have the first chapter down.  It took a year (we weren't as consistent)  Even my 4 year old can say it!  Now we are starting on chapter 2.   The best book I have found is "His Word in my Heart" by Janet Pope. Very practical and insipiring.  ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List Stephen, I made a huge undertaking for me, but am about to claim success. I have memorized the book of Philippians. Your programs have been especially helpful with the "tricky" parts that I have to nail down. I listen to the book of Philippians usually twice a day: on the way to work and on the way back. I started it well over a year ago, but really didn't give it much effort until the past couple of months. Sue ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: Scripture songs From: Bible Memory List Yes, scripture songs are a great way to memorize Bible verses. Please visit www.pursuinglife.com and go to "Links" for several links to free audio bibles and some great Scripture songs sites. Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich lavern()pursuinglife.com www.pursuinglife.com A discipleship website devoted to Bible memory. -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 4:43 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Scripture songs Michelle, one of the best ways to get young children excited about Scripture memory is through Scripture songs. If you prefer the NIV, some of the best are "NIV Kids Club" and "GT and the Halo Express" If you prefer the King James, you can use "Thy Word Productions" Steve Green also has two videos/cds out with Scripture Memory songs using various translations. Phil Walker --- Bible Memory List wrote: > Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join > and have a group of Christians with which to memorize large sections > of the Bible. I am homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want > to teach them as well. Hope to get to know you all soon!! Thanks, > Michele > > > > > ========================================================================== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" > in the subject > > ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 4:42 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Re: Scripture songs From: Bible Memory List Ok, I am intimidated, LOL! I am interested in memorizing and have a few good tips now. Actually just went and ordered a Steve Green CD, thanks for that tip! I know a few songs from my childhood....1 John 4:7-8 was a song my Mom and I would do at nursing homes. I have a terrible memory, so it is imposing to me to 'memorize'. And then just 'finding' one that I want to keep. My husband got me a verse-a-day calendar and I have been looking at those. Did find one from yesterday, took it to work and hung it in my cubicle, and of course could NOT tell you what it is now. I have the Bible on tape also. Trying to get thru the Bible, as I have never done that. Up to 2 Chronicles 30 right now. I am back to church after 25yrs of not going, so that is a blessing in itself!!!! Purpose Driven Life can be given the credit for 'getting' me to go find a church, and I have been going a year in March!!! I am 40, and also have a 3yr daughter at home and a 20yr old son at college. Work 2 part-time jobs and working towards a degree in court reporting, so very busy here. Would enjoy thoughts on 'where' is a good place to start? Thank you! Rhoda "Live one day at a time. While you can plan for tomorrow, you can't live it until it arrives. Most people spend so much time regretting the past and worrying about the future, they have no time to enjoy today!" Rick Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bible Memory List" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Scripture songs I was just going to say, our speaker last night said he met a Presbyterian family last year who only sing Psalms. As a result, their children, not yet grown, have over half the psalms memorized! I started memorizing 1 Peter probably over a year ago - when I got almost to the end of the 2nd chapter I let various distractions get in the way, and have not soldiered through. Aside from an obvious enemy who would discourage the process, and my own weak flesh, I wonder if it is because I chose it without enough prayer and should have picked another book. I'm not so sure of my "hearing" at times, how have others known for sure what to memorize? Grace, Deborah > > > >> >> >> >> >> >======================================================================= >=== > > >>To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" >>in the subject >> >> >> >> > >======================================================================= >=== > >To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > > > -- "One can no more detach God's sovereign transcendence from his personhood, or vice versa, than one can safely detach one wing from an airplane and still expect it to fly." DA Carson ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: staying the course From: Bible Memory List It is so wonderful to be part of this group!  I have longed for a place where I could share with others who are of like minds regarding scripture memory.  Seeing all of the e-mails begin to filter through, has been such a comfort to me recently.  It is motivating, to say the least.  God knew I needed it!  I usually don't share with others regarding how much or what portions of the bible I have memorized, because I absolutely do not want to sound boastful. I love the word with all my heart and am thankful for the ability to memorize.  However, I am truly glad that I can feel comfortable here to share what is on my heart and what I'm memorizing.  Has anyone memorized the book of Acts?  I started it a couple of years ago, but have not been able to stay the course.  I am so eager to get to the chapter about Stephen's testimony.  However, I have had a lot of trouble staying motivated with memorization since becoming the mother of two, with one on the way, and having some health problems as well.  What are some good suggestions to sticking with it?  I do pray about it and the desire is there.  I have memorized large portions of scripture in the past, but I feel somewhat discouraged about not being able to go forward with Acts. I've made it to about chapter 5, but will need some review.  I think just being a part of this group will help...I know it will.  However, I would love any suggestions or just for someone to share their own exp. with struggling to stay at it and what God showed them.   Thanks. ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: About Church Bible Memory Projects From: Bible Memory List I tried doing a Bible Memory Group in our church. At first, there were about 10 people "seriously" interested. Pretty good for a congregation with membership just over a hundred. needless to say, only 1-3 and people showed up for our monthly meetings, seven meetings total. Actually, at the last meeting it was just me sitting there for an hour. It is really pitiful, the lack of diligence in our culture to do what we know we ought to do and even what we want to do. I announced the end of the group as a result of inadequate attendance and participation. Even the people that showed up would have not memorized even one thing, and what kind of meeting can be made out of that? Glad to have found a community on the web that can be some real community and accountability for me on this. -Meg -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List Sent: Feb 14, 2005 2:32 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Scripture memory New web site: www.scripturememorychallenge.org Memorizing and Loving it Dear memorizing friends, Hi. My name is Phil Walker. I have been a member for a couple years now and always enjoy reading how God is at work in your lives in the area of Scripture memory. My most recent memorized chapters are ISAIAH 53 (25 of us at Upton Lake Christian School in Clinton Corners, NY memorized this as a school project) and ISAIAH 6 (in joining one of my students who decided on his own to memorize this.) Both have long been on my "someday" list, and it was a thrill to get them. The majesty of God (6) and the glorious suffering of Christ (53) have given me some wonderful things to meditate on. I would like to encourage you to visit my website www.scripturememorychallenge.org The main feature is the New Testament One Year Challenge where I hope, Lord willing, to soon have thousands of Christians around the world memorizing one key verse from every chapter of the New Testament in a year. We also have HAKOTS - Hearts After Key Old Testament Scripture - who are doing the same with the OT. I would love any help any of you could give me in spreading the word about the New Testament One Year Challenge (new groups start every Sept and Jan 1st.) to those you know who might be interested as well as those of you who have websites who would be willing to link to www.scripturememorychallenge.org Finally, I would like to encourage you to consider church Scripture memory. I approached the pastor a year ago and he supported the idea. He picks the passage and we go at a very slow pace. In 2004 we only learned 5 short passages (Ex 34:5-7, 19:5-6, Rom 5:6-8, Ps 63:1-4, and Is 9:6-7) At times it has been frustrating. After the initial novelty of the idea got 38 (out of about 120 church attenders) to learn the first passage, it dropped quickly with less than 20 having learned the last two. To begin this new year, the pastor wanted to start with just ACTS 1:8. I thought that was pretty wimpy, but went along. It has been truly wonderful to see people struggle intensly with, but finally memorize that one verse. We are at 48 who have quoted it. I am praying that God will make the truth of ACTS 1:8 real in our church It has also been eye-opening to realize that many in the church are convinced that they can not possibly memorize that one verse, or at least it is not worth the enormous effort. Can I encourage you to think about starting a church wide Scripture memory program in your church as we help our "Christian" culture know and appreciate what our God has to say. In Christ, your fellow servant and Scripture enthusiast, Phil Walker phil()scripturememorychallenge.org PS With help from a local pizza shop who let me have $15 gift certificates at a reduced price, we got 11 church members to quote from memory all 5 of the 2004 passages in one sitting. Praise God!! > ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 4:42 PM Subject: BibleMem: Questions From: Bible Memory List I have three questions: 1. Is this group going to be memorizing verses together or are we on our own as to what we'll be memorizing? I'd love to have a group where we can encourage each other as we're memorizing together. 2. For my two young children, does anyone know of a good program for them (musically maybe?) that's in NIV? 3. Has anyone tried the Bible on DVD? I've seen it on tv and my husband and I have thought of ordering it. Any good reviews of such a program? Thanks and I'm so excited to be here! Michele ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Re: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List Denna your honesty is so refreshing!  I too am a full time graduate student and struggle with scripture memorization. I will be in prayer for you for victory in that area. Please do the same for me.  My daughter and I are on a 40-day renewing of the mind with scriptures time of consecration which began yesterday  The desire to be faithful in scripture memory is half the battle.  Maybe during your 40-day consecration time you might wish to focus on scripture that will allow you to renew your mind in specific areas. Blessings Mel ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Re: New member From: Bible Memory List Hi dear all I was wondering what happened with the memoryverses.org as there has been a long silence. am a pastor from india, but now working in a ministry in USA where part of my family moved in recently- when i said part - i still have my elder and minor children still in india. i found one of the best way to remember verses is to use one verse daily in any communication you make to other christians.. letters or e-mails.. i remember when i was a small boy, my eldest brother who was serving in indian army used to write letters whome - of course these letters comes once in a month- and all letters have one verse on the top. how do you all likes this idea?? and this will make us memorise the verse as well as the person on the other side? pls share your views, and my e-mail in this part of the world is - equipindia()sbcglobal.net - Blessings. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bible Memory List Date: Monday, February 14, 2005 2:43 pm Subject: BibleMem: Re: New member > I am an Awana leader & commander. I earned my citatation award by > doing 14 books several years ago & am working on my second one. Have > memorized about 800 verses so far Jodi > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bible Memory List > Sent: Feb 14, 2005 9:35 AM > To: biblememory()memoryverses.org > Subject: BibleMem: New member > > Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join > and have a group of Christians with which to memorize large sections > of the Bible. I am homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want > to teach them as well. Hope to get to know you all soon!! Thanks, > Michele > > > > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 4:42 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Re: Welcome to the Scripture Memory Email List From: Bible Memory List Pastor Jeff, it was good to hear about your interest in Revelation and in mixing theater with Scripture memory. Have you seen or heard of Marquis Laughlin. He does a dramatic presentation of Revelation word for word in the NIV. He is based in Orlando, Florida with Sola Scriptura and also travels around the country. In Christ, Phil Walker --- Bible Memory List wrote: > Hello!! > > I am very excited about joining a group of like minded Christians > looking to memorize large sections of the Bible and relying on each > other for ideas, support and wisdom. I'm a Pastor who also has a full > time job in transportation management. I have a deep love for > prophecy and eschatology...end time events. I'm working on memorizing > scripture related to the prophecies that Christ has fulfilled and to > memorize the book of Revelation. I have a long background in theatre > so I employ theatrical memorizing techniques when memorizing large > blocks of scripture...kind of like a one man play and developing > different characters for each person speaking or being spoken about. > I do need any suggestions as this tends to be time consuming (though > great fun!) and I'd love to learn how to memorize scripture using > techniques that you speak about.... > > I look forward to the correspondence and seeing everyone continue to > grow closer to God.... > In Christ; > Pastor Jeff > > > > > "Bible Memory List" > > > > verses.org> cc: > > > Subject: Welcome to the > Scripture Memory Email List > > 02/14/2005 07:49 AM > > > > > > > > jconner()bart.gov has been added to the biblemem mailing list. > > > NOTE: > > You may have requested to be subscribed to this list some time ago. > I was unavailble to tend to the list for several weeks. > If you do not wish to be subscribed to this list, please reply to this > list and say > "Unsubscribe BibleMem" in the subject. - Thanks > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > Welcome to the Bible Memory Discussion List > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > "How can a young man keep his way pure? By living according to your > word. > I > seek you with all my heart; do not let me stray from your commands. I > have > hidden your word in my heart that I might not > sin against you." > Psalm 119:9-11 > > > The Bible memory list is designed to encourage friendly discussion on > the > topic of Bible memorization. Please post a > message to the list to > introduce yourself. Messages to the list should be sent to: > > biblememory()memoryverses.org > > If you read through the scriptures, you will easily see that knowledge > of the word of God is vital to a close relationship with God. Of > course, head knowledge alone is not good enough. It must be > understood and applied to your life. Meditation, prayer and Bible > study play a key role in understanding. Clearly, if you have > memorized portions of the word of God, it makes meditation much more > profitable. Also, all who have grown to a certain level of maturity > must teach the things they know to others. For a brief article on why > scripture memorization is important to the growth of a Christian, you > may want to read my article at http://www.memoryverses.org/why.htm. > > But, to master this discipline is very difficult ... > > Purposes of this list: > > - To collect together a group of people who have a desire to make > the memorization of scripture and meditation on what has been > memorized a significant portion of their lives. > > - I would like to bring together a group of people whose goal is > to commit to memory large portions of Scripture. My ultimate goal, is > to memorize as much of the Bible as I can, and to take as many people > along with me as I can. > > - These people can share ideas, encourage one another, set goals > and be accountable to one another for progress and be praying for one > another. > > - To discuss how we can help others, such as our children, Sunday > School class and Church friends, etc., learn to love memorizing > scripture. > > - To discuss various tools, props and aids which are effective in > the memorization and review of scripture. This includes everything > from verse cards to mnemonic devices. If your goal is to memorize > many chapters of scripture, then the organization and presentation of > the material is critical. These tools and methods must be developed. > > - To discuss how time and other activities can be scheduled to > allow for what we want to accomplish, while still maintaining balance > in all other areas of life. > > - To share the blessings of knowing the word of God. > > - Memorization of information is not enough. It must be learned > permanently, it must be understood and applied. > Review, study and meditation > is a key component of any scripture memory system. > Discussion of these > topics is welcome. > > > LIST INFORMATION > > 1) To post to the entire list, send to biblememory()memoryverses.org > > 2) To unsubscribe from the Bible memory discussion list, send a > message to biblememory()memoryverses.org with the following line in the > body of the > message: > > unsubscribe biblememory > > 3) An text archive of past Bible Memory list posts will be available > through the Scripture Memory Connection web site at: > > http://www.memoryverses.org > > --------------------- > List Guidelines > --------------------- > > It is asked that you follow these guidelines when posting to the list: > > 1) The list is open to all Christians who believe in salvation by > faith alone through the work of Jesus Christ who is our Lord and our > GOD. > === message truncated === ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Scripture songs From: Bible Memory List I was just going to say, our speaker last night said he met a Presbyterian family last year who only sing Psalms. As a result, their children, not yet grown, have over half the psalms memorized! I started memorizing 1 Peter probably over a year ago - when I got almost to the end of the 2nd chapter I let various distractions get in the way, and have not soldiered through. Aside from an obvious enemy who would discourage the process, and my own weak flesh, I wonder if it is because I chose it without enough prayer and should have picked another book. I'm not so sure of my "hearing" at times, how have others known for sure what to memorize? Grace, Deborah > > > >> >> >> >> >> >======================================================================= >=== > > >>To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" >>in the subject >> >> >> >> > >======================================================================= >=== > >To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > > > -- "One can no more detach God’s sovereign transcendence from his personhood, or vice versa, than one can safely detach one wing from an airplane and still expect it to fly." DA Carson ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Welcome to the Scripture Memory Email List From: Bible Memory List Hello!! I am very excited about joining a group of like minded Christians looking to memorize large sections of the Bible and relying on each other for ideas, support and wisdom. I'm a Pastor who also has a full time job in transportation management. I have a deep love for prophecy and eschatology...end time events. I'm working on memorizing scripture related to the prophecies that Christ has fulfilled and to memorize the book of Revelation. I have a long background in theatre so I employ theatrical memorizing techniques when memorizing large blocks of scripture...kind of like a one man play and developing different characters for each person speaking or being spoken about. I do need any suggestions as this tends to be time consuming (though great fun!) and I'd love to learn how to memorize scripture using techniques that you speak about.... I look forward to the correspondence and seeing everyone continue to grow closer to God.... In Christ; Pastor Jeff "Bible Memory List" verses.org> cc: Subject: Welcome to the Scripture Memory Email List 02/14/2005 07:49 AM jconner()bart.gov has been added to the biblemem mailing list. NOTE: You may have requested to be subscribed to this list some time ago. I was unavailble to tend to the list for several weeks. If you do not wish to be subscribed to this list, please reply to this list and say "Unsubscribe BibleMem" in the subject. - Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Welcome to the Bible Memory Discussion List ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- "How can a young man keep his way pure? By living according to your word. I seek you with all my heart; do not let me stray from your commands. I have hidden your word in my heart that I might not sin against you." Psalm 119:9-11 The Bible memory list is designed to encourage friendly discussion on the topic of Bible memorization. Please post a message to the list to introduce yourself. Messages to the list should be sent to: biblememory()memoryverses.org If you read through the scriptures, you will easily see that knowledge of the word of God is vital to a close relationship with God. Of course, head knowledge alone is not good enough. It must be understood and applied to your life. Meditation, prayer and Bible study play a key role in understanding. Clearly, if you have memorized portions of the word of God, it makes meditation much more profitable. Also, all who have grown to a certain level of maturity must teach the things they know to others. For a brief article on why scripture memorization is important to the growth of a Christian, you may want to read my article at http://www.memoryverses.org/why.htm. But, to master this discipline is very difficult ... Purposes of this list: - To collect together a group of people who have a desire to make the memorization of scripture and meditation on what has been memorized a significant portion of their lives. - I would like to bring together a group of people whose goal is to commit to memory large portions of Scripture. My ultimate goal, is to memorize as much of the Bible as I can, and to take as many people along with me as I can. - These people can share ideas, encourage one another, set goals and be accountable to one another for progress and be praying for one another. - To discuss how we can help others, such as our children, Sunday School class and Church friends, etc., learn to love memorizing scripture. - To discuss various tools, props and aids which are effective in the memorization and review of scripture. This includes everything from verse cards to mnemonic devices. If your goal is to memorize many chapters of scripture, then the organization and presentation of the material is critical. These tools and methods must be developed. - To discuss how time and other activities can be scheduled to allow for what we want to accomplish, while still maintaining balance in all other areas of life. - To share the blessings of knowing the word of God. - Memorization of information is not enough. It must be learned permanently, it must be understood and applied. Review, study and meditation is a key component of any scripture memory system. Discussion of these topics is welcome. LIST INFORMATION 1) To post to the entire list, send to biblememory()memoryverses.org 2) To unsubscribe from the Bible memory discussion list, send a message to biblememory()memoryverses.org with the following line in the body of the message: unsubscribe biblememory 3) An text archive of past Bible Memory list posts will be available through the Scripture Memory Connection web site at: http://www.memoryverses.org --------------------- List Guidelines --------------------- It is asked that you follow these guidelines when posting to the list: 1) The list is open to all Christians who believe in salvation by faith alone through the work of Jesus Christ who is our Lord and our GOD. 2) This is not a forum to discuss the merrits of one Bible translation over another. This is also not a forum to discuss theology unless it is directly relevent to the theme of memorization of Scripture as defined above. 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Generally a sentence or two is enough. --------- List Owner: Stephen Simpson (ssimpson()memoryverses.org) http://www.memoryverses.org - The Scripture Memory Connection ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 15, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: Supermemo for scripture memory-David Baldwin From: Bible Memory List Dear group,   Hello!  My computer crashed and I lost David Baldwin's excellent video example on the internet for using Supermemo to help review scripture.  What is the URL for that David?  Supermemo is a great program.  David, do you have any supermemo collections related to Scripture or Christian things that you would like to share?  My email is HYPERLINK "mailto:gandk14()molalla.net"gandk14()molalla.net   I took all the chapters that I have memorized over the years and recited them for 100 days in a row (mostly).  I got this idea from http://www.fbcdurham.org/writings/Scripmem.htm  Also, Stephen (our moderator) suggests the hundred day idea too.  Now I review them every week or two.  The 100 days idea really helped cement them in my mind.  I timed myself first to see how long it would take to recite one chapter.  To say a chapter it takes about 3 minutes.  I can fit that easily in my day:either all at once (on my walk) or in a few minutes spread throughout the day. .  I had about 40-45 minutes to do for all the scriptures I had memorized.  Since I need exercise anyway, I did this on my walk.  This is a very uplifting walk.  My family is glad I memorize scripture.  They say I am a better mom for it.  Since I feel those scriptures are secure I am starting on Romans 6.  I like memorizing books and chapters better than individual verses.  I found if I make memorizing and reviewing a priority, with the Lord's help, it happens.  I have a large family and I homeschool, so no excuses out there!!  With my children we are memorizing James.  We have the first chapter down.  It took a year (we weren't as consistent)  Even my 4 year old can say it!  Now we are starting on chapter 2.   The best book I have found is "His Word in my Heart" by Janet Pope. Very practical and insipiring.  ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 16, 2005 11:37 AM Subject: BibleMem: Accountability From: Bible Memory List To all, Accountability would be very helpful to me as I pursue God's Word.  There are some in my church and elsewhere with whom I check in from time to time, but as I could certainly use more support I'm going to go out on a limb here and commit myself to accountability to this group.  Currently I'm working on Proverbs 10-31 and would like to complete the project by year's end.  I just started in on chapter 12 yesterday and should be completed by February 28th.  I'll report in at month's end.  (The mere act of writing this email is already helping me to resolve that that report will be a good one!) In Christ, David Baldwin mailto:david()word2life.com"david()word2life.com HYPERLINK "http://www.word2life.com"www.word2life.com Dramatically Presenting the Bible Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 16, 2005 11:45 AM Subject: BibleMem: Philippians From: Bible Memory List I am attempting my first full book of the Bible.  I have chosen Philippians.  Does anyone have anything that has especially helped them with that book?   Tom in Indiana Sender: Tldewlen()aol.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 16, 2005 11:37 AM Subject: BibleMem: Re: About Church Bible Memory Projects From: Bible Memory List Meg, I note that you wrote the below in response to Phil Walker's words.  Let me just say that Phil could be of immense encouragement to you as well as provide excellent advice.  What he provides on his website, http://scripturememorychallenge.org is very much what he applies in churches, schools and organizations with which he works.  Phil invited me to dramatically present Scripture to several churches and schools in New York last October.  For three days we went at breakneck speed all around the Hudson Valley area presenting and speaking about Scripture memory.  I can't tell you how impressed I was at the work he's doing in encouraging believers to hide God's word in their hearts and the absolute commitment with which he approaches that task.  -- David Baldwin :david()word2life.com HYPERLINK "http://www.word2life.com"www.word2life.com Dramatically Presenting the Bible Bible Memory List wrote: I tried doing a Bible Memory Group in our church.  At first, there were about 10 people "seriously" interested.  Pretty good for a congregation with membership just over a hundred.  needless to say, only 1-3 and people showed up for our monthly meetings, seven meetings total.  Actually, at the last meeting it was just me sitting there for an hour.  It is really pitiful, the lack of diligence in our culture to do what we know we ought to do and even what we want to do.  I announced the end of the group as a result of inadequate attendance and participation. Even the people that showed up would have not memorized even one thing, and what kind of meeting can be made out of that? Glad to have found a community on the web that can be some real community and accountability for me on this. -Meg -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List HYPERLINK "mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org" Sent: Feb 14, 2005 2:32 PM To: HYPERLINK "mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org"biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Scripture memory New web site: HYPERLINK "http://www.scripturememorychallenge.org"www.scripturememorychallenge.org Memorizing and Loving it Dear memorizing friends, Hi.  My name is Phil Walker.  I have been a member for a couple years now and always enjoy reading how God is at work in your lives in the area of Scripture memory. My most recent memorized chapters are ISAIAH 53 (25 of us at Upton Lake Christian School in Clinton Corners, NY memorized this as a school project) and ISAIAH 6 (in joining one of my students who decided on his own to memorize this.)  Both have long been on my "someday" list, and it was a thrill to get them.  The majesty of God (6) and the glorious suffering of Christ (53) have given me some wonderful things to meditate on. I would like to encourage you to visit my website HYPERLINK "http://www.scripturememorychallenge.org"www.scripturememorychallenge.org  The main feature is the New Testament One Year Challenge where I hope, Lord willing, to soon have thousands of Christians around the world memorizing one key verse from every chapter of the New Testament in a year.  We also have HAKOTS - Hearts After Key Old Testament Scripture - who are doing the same with the OT.  I would love any help any of you could give me in spreading the word about the New Testament One Year Challenge (new groups start every Sept and Jan 1st.) to those you know who might be interested as well as those of you who have websites who would be willing to link to HYPERLINK "http://www.scripturememorychallenge.org"www.scripturememorychallenge.org Finally, I would like to encourage you to consider church Scripture memory. I approached the pastor a year ago and he supported the idea.  He picks the passage and we go at a very slow pace.  In 2004 we only learned 5 short passages (Ex 34:5-7, 19:5-6, Rom 5:6-8, Ps 63:1-4, and Is 9:6-7)  At times it has been frustrating.  After the initial novelty of the idea got 38 (out of about 120 church attenders) to learn the first passage, it dropped quickly with less than 20 having learned the last two. To begin this new year, the pastor wanted to start with just ACTS 1:8.  I thought that was pretty wimpy, but went along.  It has been truly wonderful to see people struggle intensly with, but finally memorize that one verse. We are at 48 who have quoted it.  I am praying that God will make the truth of ACTS 1:8 real in our church  It has also been eye-opening to realize that many in the church are convinced that they can not possibly memorize that one verse, or at least it is not worth the enormous effort.  Can I encourage you to think about starting a church wide Scripture memory program in your church as we help our "Christian" culture know and appreciate what our God has to say. In Christ, your fellow servant and Scripture enthusiast, Phil Walker  HYPERLINK "mailto:phil()scripturememorychallenge.org"phil()scripturememorychallenge.org PS  With help from a local pizza shop who let me have $15 gift certificates at a reduced price, we got 11 church members to quote from memory all 5 of the 2004 passages in one sitting.  Praise God!!   ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 16, 2005 11:37 AM Subject: BibleMem: Re: staying the course From: Bible Memory List The below reads just like my story!  I too started in on memorizing Acts, got to chapter five, and fizzeled out.  Perhaps one day I will pick it up again and finish the project, but not for now. I dropped the project because it became evident to me that Acts was simply not the place for me to be focusing my time and effort.  The Lord has impressed upon me more and more my need to get wisdom and thus my focus is now on memorizing wisdom literature.  In that vein I've thus far memorized Ecclesiasties, Proverbs 1-9 and am currently working on Proverbs 10 - 31.  As I work on memorizing wisdom literature my heart is filled with joy for it seems that I'm focusing on exactly the Scripture the Lord wants me to learn.  I encourage each of you not only to memorize Scripture but to prayfully consider where in Scripture God would have you focus. -- David Baldwin david()word2life.com http://www.word2life.com"www.word2life.com Dramatically Presenting the Bible It is so wonderful to be part of this group!  I have longed for a place where I could share with others who are of like minds regarding scripture memory.  Seeing all of the e-mails begin to filter through, has been such a comfort to me recently.  It is motivating, to say the least.  God knew I needed it!  I usually don't share with others regarding how much or what portions of the bible I have memorized, because I absolutely do not want to sound boastful.  I love the word with all my heart and am thankful for the ability to memorize.  However, I am truly glad that I can feel comfortable here to share what is on my heart and what I'm memorizing.  Has anyone memorized the book of Acts?  I started it a couple of years ago, but have not been able to stay the course.  I am so eager to get to the chapter about Stephen's testimony.  However, I have had a lot of trouble staying motivated with memorization since becoming the mother of two, with one on the way, and having some health problems as well.  What are some good suggestions to sticking with it?  I do pray about it and the desire is there.  I have memorized large portions of scripture in the past, but I feel somewhat discouraged about not being able to go forward with Acts. I've made it to about chapter 5, but will need some review.  I think just being a part of this group will help...I know it will.  However, I would love any suggestions or just for someone to share their own exp. with struggling to stay at it and what God showed them.   Thanks. ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 16, 2005 11:37 AM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Supermemo for scripture memory-David Baldwin From: Bible Memory List Wow! That's encouraging to hear that that video on Supermemo might still be of use! To view the video go to http://www.word2life.com/scripturememory04.htm, and scroll down the page for the Supermemo link. While you are there I'd encouage you to check out the HYPERLINK "http://www.word2life.com/demo.htm"Demo Page as well. As far as collections are concerned, I have about a thousand verses sliced and diced in various ways entered into Supermemo. Though very helpful to me personally, I don't know if what I have would be useful to anyone else as many verses are filled with obscure mnemonic references! However if anyone is interested I'd certainly be willing to share. Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 16, 2005 11:37 AM Subject: BibleMem: Accountability From: Bible Memory List To all, Accountability would be very helpful to me as I pursue God's Word.  There are some in my church and elsewhere with whom I check in from time to time, but as I could certainly use more support I'm going to go out on a limb here and commit myself to accountability to this group.  Currently I'm working on Proverbs 10-31 and would like to complete the project by year's end.  I just started in on chapter 12 yesterday and should be completed by February 28th.  I'll report in at month's end.  (The mere act of writing this email is already helping me to resolve that that report will be a good one!) In Christ, David Baldwin mailto:david()word2life.com"david()word2life.com HYPERLINK "http://www.word2life.com"www.word2life.com Dramatically Presenting the Bible Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 16, 2005 11:45 AM Subject: BibleMem: Philippians From: Bible Memory List I am attempting my first full book of the Bible.  I have chosen Philippians.  Does anyone have anything that has especially helped them with that book?   Tom in Indiana Sender: Tldewlen()aol.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 16, 2005 11:37 AM Subject: BibleMem: Re: About Church Bible Memory Projects From: Bible Memory List Meg, I note that you wrote the below in response to Phil Walker's words.  Let me just say that Phil could be of immense encouragement to you as well as provide excellent advice.  What he provides on his website, http://scripturememorychallenge.org is very much what he applies in churches, schools and organizations with which he works.  Phil invited me to dramatically present Scripture to several churches and schools in New York last October.  For three days we went at breakneck speed all around the Hudson Valley area presenting and speaking about Scripture memory.  I can't tell you how impressed I was at the work he's doing in encouraging believers to hide God's word in their hearts and the absolute commitment with which he approaches that task.  -- David Baldwin :david()word2life.com HYPERLINK "http://www.word2life.com"www.word2life.com Dramatically Presenting the Bible Bible Memory List wrote: I tried doing a Bible Memory Group in our church.  At first, there were about 10 people "seriously" interested.  Pretty good for a congregation with membership just over a hundred.  needless to say, only 1-3 and people showed up for our monthly meetings, seven meetings total.  Actually, at the last meeting it was just me sitting there for an hour.  It is really pitiful, the lack of diligence in our culture to do what we know we ought to do and even what we want to do.  I announced the end of the group as a result of inadequate attendance and participation. Even the people that showed up would have not memorized even one thing, and what kind of meeting can be made out of that? Glad to have found a community on the web that can be some real community and accountability for me on this. -Meg -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List HYPERLINK "mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org" Sent: Feb 14, 2005 2:32 PM To: HYPERLINK "mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org"biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Scripture memory New web site: HYPERLINK "http://www.scripturememorychallenge.org"www.scripturememorychallenge.org Memorizing and Loving it Dear memorizing friends, Hi.  My name is Phil Walker.  I have been a member for a couple years now and always enjoy reading how God is at work in your lives in the area of Scripture memory. My most recent memorized chapters are ISAIAH 53 (25 of us at Upton Lake Christian School in Clinton Corners, NY memorized this as a school project) and ISAIAH 6 (in joining one of my students who decided on his own to memorize this.)  Both have long been on my "someday" list, and it was a thrill to get them.  The majesty of God (6) and the glorious suffering of Christ (53) have given me some wonderful things to meditate on. I would like to encourage you to visit my website HYPERLINK "http://www.scripturememorychallenge.org"www.scripturememorychallenge.org  The main feature is the New Testament One Year Challenge where I hope, Lord willing, to soon have thousands of Christians around the world memorizing one key verse from every chapter of the New Testament in a year.  We also have HAKOTS - Hearts After Key Old Testament Scripture - who are doing the same with the OT.  I would love any help any of you could give me in spreading the word about the New Testament One Year Challenge (new groups start every Sept and Jan 1st.) to those you know who might be interested as well as those of you who have websites who would be willing to link to HYPERLINK "http://www.scripturememorychallenge.org"www.scripturememorychallenge.org Finally, I would like to encourage you to consider church Scripture memory. I approached the pastor a year ago and he supported the idea.  He picks the passage and we go at a very slow pace.  In 2004 we only learned 5 short passages (Ex 34:5-7, 19:5-6, Rom 5:6-8, Ps 63:1-4, and Is 9:6-7)  At times it has been frustrating.  After the initial novelty of the idea got 38 (out of about 120 church attenders) to learn the first passage, it dropped quickly with less than 20 having learned the last two. To begin this new year, the pastor wanted to start with just ACTS 1:8.  I thought that was pretty wimpy, but went along.  It has been truly wonderful to see people struggle intensly with, but finally memorize that one verse. We are at 48 who have quoted it.  I am praying that God will make the truth of ACTS 1:8 real in our church  It has also been eye-opening to realize that many in the church are convinced that they can not possibly memorize that one verse, or at least it is not worth the enormous effort.  Can I encourage you to think about starting a church wide Scripture memory program in your church as we help our "Christian" culture know and appreciate what our God has to say. In Christ, your fellow servant and Scripture enthusiast, Phil Walker  HYPERLINK "mailto:phil()scripturememorychallenge.org"phil()scripturememorychallenge.org PS  With help from a local pizza shop who let me have $15 gift certificates at a reduced price, we got 11 church members to quote from memory all 5 of the 2004 passages in one sitting.  Praise God!!   ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 16, 2005 11:37 AM Subject: BibleMem: Re: staying the course From: Bible Memory List The below reads just like my story!  I too started in on memorizing Acts, got to chapter five, and fizzeled out.  Perhaps one day I will pick it up again and finish the project, but not for now. I dropped the project because it became evident to me that Acts was simply not the place for me to be focusing my time and effort.  The Lord has impressed upon me more and more my need to get wisdom and thus my focus is now on memorizing wisdom literature.  In that vein I've thus far memorized Ecclesiasties, Proverbs 1-9 and am currently working on Proverbs 10 - 31.  As I work on memorizing wisdom literature my heart is filled with joy for it seems that I'm focusing on exactly the Scripture the Lord wants me to learn.  I encourage each of you not only to memorize Scripture but to prayfully consider where in Scripture God would have you focus. -- David Baldwin david()word2life.com http://www.word2life.com"www.word2life.com Dramatically Presenting the Bible It is so wonderful to be part of this group!  I have longed for a place where I could share with others who are of like minds regarding scripture memory.  Seeing all of the e-mails begin to filter through, has been such a comfort to me recently.  It is motivating, to say the least.  God knew I needed it!  I usually don't share with others regarding how much or what portions of the bible I have memorized, because I absolutely do not want to sound boastful.  I love the word with all my heart and am thankful for the ability to memorize.  However, I am truly glad that I can feel comfortable here to share what is on my heart and what I'm memorizing.  Has anyone memorized the book of Acts?  I started it a couple of years ago, but have not been able to stay the course.  I am so eager to get to the chapter about Stephen's testimony.  However, I have had a lot of trouble staying motivated with memorization since becoming the mother of two, with one on the way, and having some health problems as well.  What are some good suggestions to sticking with it?  I do pray about it and the desire is there.  I have memorized large portions of scripture in the past, but I feel somewhat discouraged about not being able to go forward with Acts. I've made it to about chapter 5, but will need some review.  I think just being a part of this group will help...I know it will.  However, I would love any suggestions or just for someone to share their own exp. with struggling to stay at it and what God showed them.   Thanks. ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 16, 2005 11:37 AM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Supermemo for scripture memory-David Baldwin From: Bible Memory List Wow! That's encouraging to hear that that video on Supermemo might still be of use! To view the video go to http://www.word2life.com/scripturememory04.htm, and scroll down the page for the Supermemo link. While you are there I'd encouage you to check out the HYPERLINK "http://www.word2life.com/demo.htm"Demo Page as well. As far as collections are concerned, I have about a thousand verses sliced and diced in various ways entered into Supermemo. Though very helpful to me personally, I don't know if what I have would be useful to anyone else as many verses are filled with obscure mnemonic references! However if anyone is interested I'd certainly be willing to share. Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Philippians From: Bible Memory List Dear Tom, I just finished Philippians this week. It took me almost two years due to my lack of consistent study, but I believe I have it for life. One thing that is helpful is to absolutely love that book, which I do. I did some of the self tests in the Scripture Memory 3 program, old-fashioned study on paper, and I listen to it at least twice a day in my car. I suggest putting it on CD with lots of breaks so you can keep playing one section until you have it. I also recommend studying it on paper or computer before trying to learn by listening. Listening is a good practice and review, but not a good way for me to learn from scratch. May the Lord keep you excited about that precious book until it is part of your long-term memory (the advantage of taking forever to learn something is that you remember it longer). Sue in Virginia Sender: heysue()naxs.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Philippians From: Bible Memory List I memorized Philippians about three years ago. The advice I would give is to memorize it thoroughly so you can quote it fluently without stutters and stalls. Then......quote the whole book at least once per day for the rest of your life...a very do-able and worthwhile daily activity. You will probably be motivated to memorize more chapters and books as I was. Blessings, Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bible Memory List" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 7:45 AM Subject: BibleMem: Philippians I am attempting my first full book of the Bible. I have chosen Philippians. Does anyone have anything that has especially helped them with that book? Tom in Indiana Sender: Tldewlen()aol.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: soderstrom()kpunet.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 5:32 PM Subject: BibleMem: Confessions From: Bible Memory List Hello, all! how are you? I have only been getting e-mails from this list for a couple of days now, and I can already tell it will be a big factor in me keeping on track and staying excited about Bible memory. Sometimes I think I'm weak that I need accoutnability for something so "simple", but I guess that's just the way we're made, to need each other. Anyhow, I just read today that Karen (also on this list) does her review and memorizing while she's walking. That's cool because I'm going to start getting back into Bible memory (have been out of it for a little over a month) while I ride my new stationary bike. I need to work on both my physical health and my spiritual health and I know that it will make my biking just fly by if I'm working on verses and not just staring at the little digital display that tells me how slow I'm going. :-) I really look forward to this. Also, another confession, I have been bad about reviewing verses and I know that's pretty stupid, that's like catch and release for fishing... fun at the time, but not very useful long term. I am going to work on reviewing verses too. Oh boy! I have a lot of stuff to get together. Thanks for the support and encouragement I've been getting from all of you! I will stay in touch. -Meg morehorsies()peoplepc.com ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 5:32 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: which version? From: Bible Memory List   I like the NASB.  I think it is the most accurate and with the NASB update it is very understandable.   In Christ   Lee Delbridge HYPERLINK "mailto:LeeDelbridge()msn.com"LeeDelbridge()msn.com     ----- Original Message ----- From: Bible Memory List Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 2:34 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: which version?   Hello, I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any messages until now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses memorized. However, with a full course load at University and my part-time job, I can no longer put in the same amount of time for memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to recalling those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3 verses a day until I memorize the book of Romans. What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find that if I memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved person for example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it leaves me to translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering if I should memorize from NKJV or even NASB. Glad to see this is up and running again! This means I have to start memorizing soon. -- Marcin Samiec http://marcin.samiec.info Sender: msamiec()telus.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: LDelbridge()msn.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Re: staying the course From: Bible Memory List Thanks a lot for the reply.  That's funny what you said about going to the wisdom books, because I did that for a while.  I thought that maybe I needed a change and that the Lord possibly wanted me elsewhere in the word.  I started to memorize Proverbs and I made it about as far as where you are now.  However, I used the KJV and I think hampered me from continuing.  I was trying to use the KJV more b/c of the accuracy, but it's now what I'm used to.  I usually use NIV.  I'm curious what version you are memorizing from.  I would be willing to commit to doing the next 10 verses with you as a prayer partner and for accountability.  I will also include my five year old.  She has a lot of scripture memorized and enjoys it.  I home-school her, so we include it in her writing lessons, etc.  What do you think?    Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: HYPERLINK "mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org"Bible Memory List To: HYPERLINK "mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org"biblememory()memoryverses.org Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:36 AM Subject: BibleMem: Re: staying the course The below reads just like my story! I too started in on memorizing Acts, got to chapter five, and fizzeled out. Perhaps one day I will pick it up again and finish the project, but not for now. I dropped the project because it became evident to me that Acts was simply not the place for me to be focusing my time and effort. The Lord has impressed upon me more and more my need to get wisdom and thus my focus is now on memorizing wisdom literature. In that vein I've thus far memorized Ecclesiasties, Proverbs 1-9 and am currently working on Proverbs 10 - 31. As I work on memorizing wisdom literature my heart is filled with joy for it seems that I'm focusing on exactly the Scripture the Lord wants me to learn. I encourage each of you not only to memorize Scripture but to prayfully consider where in Scripture God would have you focus. -- David Baldwin HYPERLINK "mailto:david()word2life.com"david()word2life.com http://www.word2life.com"www.word2life.com Dramatically Presenting the Bible It is so wonderful to be part of this group! I have longed for a place where I could share with others who are of like minds regarding scripture memory. Seeing all of the e-mails begin to filter through, has been such a comfort to me recently. It is motivating, to say the least. God knew I needed it! I usually don't share with others regarding how much or what portions of the bible I have memorized, because I absolutely do not want to sound boastful. I love the word with all my heart and am thankful for the ability to memorize. However, I am truly glad that I can feel comfortable here to share what is on my heart and what I'm memorizing. Has anyone memorized the book of Acts? I started it a couple of years ago, but have not been able to stay the course. I am so eager to get to the chapter about Stephen's testimony. However, I have had a lot of trouble staying motivated with memorization since becoming the mother of two, with one on the way, and having some health problems as well. What are some good suggestions to sticking with it? I do pray about it and the desire is there. I have memorized large portions of scripture in the past, but I feel somewhat discouraged about not being able to go forward with Acts. I've made it to about chapter 5, but will need some review. I think just being a part of this group will help...I know it will. However, I would love any suggestions or just for someone to share their own exp. with struggling to stay at it and what God showed them. Thanks. ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: HYPERLINK "mailto:david()word2life.com"david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: twsm()msn.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: On Acts and choosing what to memorize From: Bible Memory List I agree. Sometimes we decide ourselves that we're going to do something, or God directs us, but we need to be flexible. Even if you are supposed to memorize the book of Acts, maybe now is not the time for it to be your main focus. Maybe it's something for later. I've had to learn to be flexible and not just follow my plan, but try to follow where I'm being led. Let's face it! Most of the time we're blindfolded. On that note. I try not to plan my memorization too far ahead. this has worked in two ways- to let me drop something I thought I was going to memorize for something I felt more strongly led to memorize, without feeling like a quitter. For two, it's actually led to me memorizing more than I originally thought I was going to or could from certain passages. Who knew? I definitely wouldn't stress about it. -Meg -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List Sent: Feb 16, 2005 11:36 AM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Re: staying the course The below reads just like my story!  I too started in on memorizing Acts, got to chapter five, and fizzeled out.  Perhaps one day I will pick it up again and finish the project, but not for now. I dropped the project because it became evident to me that Acts was simply not the place for me to be focusing my time and effort.  The Lord has impressed upon me more and more my need to get wisdom and thus my focus is now on memorizing wisdom literature.  In that vein I've thus far memorized Ecclesiasties, Proverbs 1-9 and am currently working on Proverbs 10 - 31.  As I work on memorizing wisdom literature my heart is filled with joy for it seems that I'm focusing on exactly the Scripture the Lord wants me to learn.  I encourage each of you not only to memorize Scripture but to prayfully consider where in Scripture God would have you focus. -- David Baldwin david()word2life.com http://www.word2life.com"www.word2life.com Dramatically Presenting the Bible It is so wonderful to be part of this group!  I have longed for a place where I could share with others who are of like minds regarding scripture memory.  Seeing all of the e-mails begin to filter through, has been such a comfort to me recently.  It is motivating, to say the least.  God knew I needed it!  I usually don't share with others regarding how much or what portions of the bible I have memorized, because I absolutely do not want to sound boastful.  I love the word with all my heart and am thankful for the ability to memorize.  However, I am truly glad that I can feel comfortable here to share what is on my heart and what I'm memorizing.  Has anyone memorized the book of Acts?  I started it a couple of years ago, but have not been able to stay the course.  I am so eager to get to the chapter about Stephen's testimony.  However, I have had a lot of trouble staying motivated with memorization since becoming the mother of two, with one on the way, and having some health problems as well.  What are some good suggestions to sticking with it?  I do pray about it and the desire is there.  I have memorized large portions of scripture in the past, but I feel somewhat discouraged about not being able to go forward with Acts. I've made it to about chapter 5, but will need some review.  I think just being a part of this group will help...I know it will.  However, I would love any suggestions or just for someone to share their own exp. with struggling to stay at it and what God showed them.   Thanks. ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: (Mel) From: Bible Memory List Mel, I will definately be lifting you and your daughter up during this 40 days or renewal, and for your school work - it is quite a lot to keep up with, isn't it?   As for your suggestion on focusing on scripture to renew my mind, in a sense, that is what I am doing.   I had been praying a great deal about learning to worship and praise more fully - I feel that I am so limited by my human language and emotions in this area.  Some weeks back as I was praying, the LORD spoke to my spirit, telling me to spend a time just in praise and worship, without asking anything for myself.  Now I know the bible says to let our request be made known to God, so I filed this away mentally to muse over, and to verify that I had understood correctly.  Within one week, I had picked up two new books, both by authors I trust, who reported similar experiences.  I may be slow, but I did finally get the message - so for this 40 days (39 to go) I am seeking God in praise and worship and interceeding for others, trusting that He knows my needs better than myself.  The scriptures I will be memorizing through this period all have to do with encouraging worship and an enlarge appreciation for who and what God is.  Yesterday, I memorized Psalm 71:6-8 reminding me that God created me, delivered me, and has kept me since He planned me in eternity.  Today I am looking at God as Father, and will be memorizing Matt.6:32 and Luke 12:31-32.   Know that for the next 39 days, intercession is taking on a new priority in my prayer life, and that I will be daily lifting you up.    Denna Bible Memory List wrote: Denna your honesty is so refreshing!  I too am a full time graduate student and struggle with scripture memorization. I will be in prayer for you for victory in that area. Please do the same for me.  My daughter and I are on a 40-day renewing of the mind with scriptures time of consecration which began yesterday  The desire to be faithful in scripture memory is half the battle.  Maybe during your 40-day consecration time you might wish to focus on scripture that will allow you to renew your mind in specific areas. Blessings Mel ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ji bjabinaugural.html"Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Sender: waudenna()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Know yourself spiritually and physically From: Bible Memory List Terry, Thanks for your comment about the genealogies of scripture being intended to indicate the right person to do ministry.  The Lord has recently been calling my attention to these in my daily Bible reading, and I have been praying about what He is wanting to show me.  I think your comment is part of His answer. I also use audio when I memorize, but I record the verses in my own voice leaving space to recite the versed either before or after.  I found this idea in the archives, and it has really helped me. Judy Bible Memory List wrote: Hi Stephen and others, At the moment I really discovered the importance to know yourself. Both spiritually and physically. Memorization can really help in your walk with the Lord. But we have to be careful to memorize the right texts. What is our argument to choose a text to memorize? Is it to boost of our huge Bible knowledge so we can show off to everyone that we 'even' know that verse? Or is it exactly the verse the Lord wants us to know by heart? The verse that we struggle with and makes us feel we have a long way to go with the Lord in this exact area. I personally believe that there is no text in the Bible that is 'theory only'. Even the genealogies were intended to indicate the right person to do a ministry. There is no theoretical knowledge needed to be able to enter the Kingdom. So if God is trying to change me, I should listen to the texts He wants me to hear. It is also important to know yourself physically. How is your brain functioning? People tend to have preferences in memorization techniques; so let's use that. People often use the phrase 'photographic memory' when they mean 'very good memory'. But it is rather a description of how that brain prefers to remember things: by pictures! People like that have bad luck when it comes to Bible memorization; there are no pictures in most Bibles. They often have to create their own mental pictures when they try to memorize the Bible. But there is much more your brain can prefer to remember. Some prefer written text. I personally am an audio person. At school I never did my homework because I didn't need to (my teachers disagreed on that...). If I visited the lessons, I listened to the explanation of the teacher and that was sufficient for me to pass tests, including my exams. Even now I remember a lot of what these teachers said to me almost 20 years ago. I should use that in Bible memorization. So I mainly use audio bibles. There are plenty. For Dutch speaking persons like me, there is http://www.voorleesbijbel.nl/ My English speaking brothers and sisters may use http://www.audiotreasure.com/ Other languages, including Hebrew old testament for the original text users: http://www.audioscripture.com/ And a greek new testament is found at http://www.ccel.org/a/anonymous/gnt/home.html Pronounced better, but (for now) incomplete greek and latin new testament: http://www.greeklatinaudio.com/ This is what is freely available, ready to download and use. But there are also good products available commercially, or you could ask libraries for the blind if they have audio bibles available to seeing persons as well. Synthetic speech can be a 'last resort' if your favorite translation is not available... OK, enough about audio bibles. What I try to say is that it is useful to investigate how your memory works and use that. It can really be frustrating otherwise. Terry ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ji bjabinaugural.html"Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Sender: praise_grace1983()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List Rev. David C. Huff Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church 285 Main Street Lilburn, GA 30047 770-921-1220 Ext. 240 dhuff()firstbaptist.net -----Original Message----- From: Huff, David Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM To: 'Bible Memory List' Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Everyone: Good to see the list active again! I began memorizing large passages about 2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit into my life since then. My best review time is during the morning "shower and dress" routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of anything (except possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-). I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation have brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming spiritual discipline I have ever pursued! I lead a men's mentoring/discipleship ministry in our church, and we are using Scripture memory with some wonderful results!! The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5 -7), and it still remains my favorite. I've also worked my way through James and I John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with a number of shorter Psalms. Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge - Psalm 119. Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility -- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me to memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own. Some weeks I accomplish more than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to APPLY what I'm learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and disciplines -- me. It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!! I look forward to hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm 119:11. In Christ, David Rev. David C. Huff Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church 285 Main Street Lilburn, GA 30047 770-921-1220 Ext. 240 dhuff()firstbaptist.net -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:16 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Greetings, It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long. Now however, I would like to get things going again ... > If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with the words > "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top of the body of the > message. I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture. How is everybody doing? What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months? What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others? Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: dhuff()firstbaptist.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Philippians From: Bible Memory List I memorized the book of Philippians when my first child was a baby, about 3-4 years ago now.  I just took a few verses every evening, b/c that was my time when the house was quiet and I could really focus.  It helped me to say it out loud for my husband and parents.  I loved the feeling of getting into character, as if I was Paul talking to that group of people.  You can really feel the emotion behind it when you say it out loud to someone who you are comfortable with.  That made it come alive for me.  I also was given the opportunity to recite the book in two churches, which was just amazing.  I am NOT a public speaker and I was so scared!  However, I have never felt so filled with the spirit of God as I recited...it felt like God was speaking through me!  I usually get just panicked in from of people and hyperventilate or talk to fast, but I was totally calm and was able to say the whole thing with no mistakes both times.  It was a witness to me and I will never forget it. And, it cemented in my heart that the reason for memorizing is not just for myself, but for others.  It blessed a lot of people.  I was truly humbled.  God is just so awesome!   I will pray for you as you memorize!   In Him,   Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: HYPERLINK "mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org"Bible Memory List To: HYPERLINK "mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org"biblememory()memoryverses.org Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:45 AM Subject: BibleMem: Philippians I am attempting my first full book of the Bible. I have chosen Philippians. Does anyone have anything that has especially helped them with that book? Tom in Indiana Sender: HYPERLINK "mailto:Tldewlen()aol.com"Tldewlen()aol.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: twsm()msn.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: RE: New member From: Bible Memory List Geoff. If you haven't already memorized these I would suggest the Romans Road to salvation.  It is: Rom. 3:23; Rom. 6:23: Rom. 5:8; Rom. 10: 9,10; Rom. 10:13; and Eph. 2: 8-10.  I had the children in a Sunday School class of 8 to 12 year olds I used to teach memorized these, and two of them were saved. Judy Bible Memory List wrote: Dear Friends, Greetings from Leicester, UK! I work with a Sunday School group for 5-7 year olds, and am very keen to have the children memorising a verse a month in a one-year cycle - so 12 verses altogether. John 3:16, John 14:6 and Acts 1:8 already memorised (allegedly...) I would be very interested in members' views on THE 12 verses to go for. If (as I hope) this generates a fair bit of correspondence, remember that any additional verse requires another to be jettisoned! With many thanks for your help and very best wishes, Geoff Dr Geoff Tennant Mathematics Education Lecturer School of Education 21 University Road ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ji bjabinaugural.html"Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Sender: praise_grace1983()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Re: Re: New member From: Bible Memory List Dear Brother, Love your idea of using a verse a day in all our communications with fellow christians!  I use the verses I have memorized as prayers for others.  This would also remind me to take a few minutes to pray for that brother or sister that I'm writing to. Judy Bible Memory List wrote: Hi dear all I was wondering what happened with the memoryverses.org as there has been a long silence. am a pastor from india, but now working in a ministry in USA where part of my family moved in recently- when i said part - i still have my elder and minor children still in india. i found one of the best way to remember verses is to use one verse daily in any communication you make to other christians.. letters or e-mails.. i remember when i was a small boy, my eldest brother who was serving in indian army used to write letters whome - of course these letters comes once in a month- and all letters have one verse on the top. how do you all likes this idea?? and this will make us memorise the verse as well as the person on the other side? pls share your views, and my e-mail in this part of the world is - equipindia()sbcglobal.net - Blessings. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bible Memory List Date: Monday, February 14, 2005 2:43 pm Subject: BibleMem: Re: New member > I am an Awana leader & commander. I earned my citatation award by > doing 14 books several years ago & am working on my second one. Have > memorized about 800 verses so far Jodi > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bible Memory List > Sent: Feb 14, 2005 9:35 AM > To: biblememory()memoryverses.org > Subject: BibleMem: New member > > Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join > and have a group of Christians with which to memorize large sections > of the Bible. I am homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want > to teach them as well. Hope to get to know you all soon!! Thanks, > Michele > > > > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ji bjabinaugural.html"Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Sender: praise_grace1983()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Re: Scripture songs From: Bible Memory List Deborah, Thanks for asking the question about being sure of what the Lord would have you memorize next.  This is my greatest recent struggle with memory work. I'm  right there with you on not always being sure of my 'hearing' the Lord correctly.  But I know He will make this clear for us if we persevere in what we do know.  I also went through a struggle on what translation He would have me to use when I first started with regular memorization.  Not only did the Lord make it crystal clear in His own time and way, but He also used this struggle to hear Him clearly to bless me in many other ways. I believe He will do the same with discerning His will in what verses to memorize because He has promised both direction and wisdom to those who ask.  Maybe you question and the answers it receives will be part of His answer for us. Love, Judy Bible Memory List wrote: I was just going to say, our speaker last night said he met a Presbyterian family last year who only sing Psalms. As a result, their children, not yet grown, have over half the psalms memorized! I started memorizing 1 Peter probably over a year ago - when I got almost to the end of the 2nd chapter I let various distractions get in the way, and have not soldiered through. Aside from an obvious enemy who would discourage the process, and my own weak flesh, I wonder if it is because I chose it without enough prayer and should have picked another book. I'm not so sure of my "hearing" at times, how have others known for sure what to memorize? Grace, Deborah > > > >> >> >> >> >> >======================================================================= >=== > > >>To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" >>in the subject >> >> >> >> > >======================================================================= >=== > >To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > > > -- "One can no more detach God’s sovereign transcendence from his personhood, or vice versa, than one can safely detach one wing from an airplane and still expect it to fly." DA Carson ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ji bjabinaugural.html"Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Sender: praise_grace1983()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: Re: staying the course From: Bible Memory List It is very encouraging to see people responding to memorizing scripture! I have not really concentrated on chapters or books - only chapters here and there because of God's leading. Most of my memorization is individual verses and passages. My prayer is that all of us will seek God's leading in this endeavor. Mainly, that as James 1:22 says, "But be ye doers of the word and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.". I have memorized quite a number of scriptures over the years and have been recently convicted about organizing the memorized verses into topic format. It is really difficult to share with others particular verses sometimes because the verse is in with a hundred others and I have a hard time remembering the reference. Jack Van Impe has some good pointers on his website that encourages also memorizing "topic outlines" along with the references so that the scriptures are more handy for use. For those who may not know , he has been referred to as "the walking Bible". May God bless us all in hiding His word in our heart and not just in our minds. If it is in our hearts, it cannot help but show forth in our lives. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:37 AM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Re: staying the course The below reads just like my story!  I too started in on memorizing Acts, got to chapter five, and fizzeled out.  Perhaps one day I will pick it up again and finish the project, but not for now. I dropped the project because it became evident to me that Acts was simply not the place for me to be focusing my time and effort.  The Lord has impressed upon me more and more my need to get wisdom and thus my focus is now on memorizing wisdom literature.  In that vein I've thus far memorized Ecclesiasties, Proverbs 1-9 and am currently working on Proverbs 10 - 31.  As I work on memorizing wisdom literature my heart is filled with joy for it seems that I'm focusing on exactly the Scripture the Lord wants me to learn.  I encourage each of you not only to memorize Scripture but to prayfully consider where in Scripture God would have you focus. -- David Baldwin david()word2life.com http://www.word2life.com"www.word2life.com Dramatically Presenting the Bible It is so wonderful to be part of this group!  I have longed for a place where I could share with others who are of like minds regarding scripture memory.  Seeing all of the e-mails begin to filter through, has been such a comfort to me recently.  It is motivating, to say the least.  God knew I needed it!  I usually don't share with others regarding how much or what portions of the bible I have memorized, because I absolutely do not want to sound boastful.  I love the word with all my heart and am thankful for the ability to memorize.  However, I am truly glad that I can feel comfortable here to share what is on my heart and what I'm memorizing.  Has anyone memorized the book of Acts?  I started it a couple of years ago, but have not been able to stay the course.  I am so eager to get to the chapter about Stephen's testimony.  However, I have had a lot of trouble staying motivated with memorization since becoming the mother of two, with one on the way, and having some health problems as well.  What are some good suggestions to sticking with it?  I do pray about it and the desire is there.  I have memorized large portions of scripture in the past, but I feel somewhat discouraged about not being able to go forward with Acts. I've made it to about chapter 5, but will need some review.  I think just being a part of this group will help...I know it will.  However, I would love any suggestions or just for someone to share their own exp. with struggling to stay at it and what God showed them.   Thanks. ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: CCarlton()AugustaMed.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 5:32 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: Bible Memory Group From: Bible Memory List Greetings! Yes, it seems sad how people value the Bible so little. The Bible is one of my treasures here on earth! I want to memorize as much of it as I can, especially while I am young, and allow God's words to transform me and make me more effective in His Kingdom. Thank you to each of you for your contribution in this discussion list. Please show your face to all of us over at www.Pursuinglife.com sometime! Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich www.pursuinglife.com A discipleship site for Bible memory fanatics. -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:45 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: About Church Bible Memory Projects I tried doing a Bible Memory Group in our church. At first, there were about 10 people "seriously" interested. Pretty good for a congregation with membership just over a hundred. needless to say, only 1-3 and people showed up for our monthly meetings, seven meetings total. Actually, at the last meeting it was just me sitting there for an hour. It is really pitiful, the lack of diligence in our culture to do what we know we ought to do and even what we want to do. I announced the end of the group as a result of inadequate attendance and participation. Even the people that showed up would have not memorized even one thing, and what kind of meeting can be made out of that? Glad to have found a community on the web that can be some real community and accountability for me on this. -Meg -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List Sent: Feb 14, 2005 2:32 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Scripture memory New web site: www.scripturememorychallenge.org Memorizing and Loving it Dear memorizing friends, Hi. My name is Phil Walker. I have been a member for a couple years now and always enjoy reading how God is at work in your lives in the area of Scripture memory. My most recent memorized chapters are ISAIAH 53 (25 of us at Upton Lake Christian School in Clinton Corners, NY memorized this as a school project) and ISAIAH 6 (in joining one of my students who decided on his own to memorize this.) Both have long been on my "someday" list, and it was a thrill to get them. The majesty of God (6) and the glorious suffering of Christ (53) have given me some wonderful things to meditate on. I would like to encourage you to visit my website www.scripturememorychallenge.org The main feature is the New Testament One Year Challenge where I hope, Lord willing, to soon have thousands of Christians around the world memorizing one key verse from every chapter of the New Testament in a year. We also have HAKOTS - Hearts After Key Old Testament Scripture - who are doing the same with the OT. I would love any help any of you could give me in spreading the word about the New Testament One Year Challenge (new groups start every Sept and Jan 1st.) to those you know who might be interested as well as those of you who have websites who would be willing to link to www.scripturememorychallenge.org Finally, I would like to encourage you to consider church Scripture memory. I approached the pastor a year ago and he supported the idea. He picks the passage and we go at a very slow pace. In 2004 we only learned 5 short passages (Ex 34:5-7, 19:5-6, Rom 5:6-8, Ps 63:1-4, and Is 9:6-7) At times it has been frustrating. After the initial novelty of the idea got 38 (out of about 120 church attenders) to learn the first passage, it dropped quickly with less than 20 having learned the last two. To begin this new year, the pastor wanted to start with just ACTS 1:8. I thought that was pretty wimpy, but went along. It has been truly wonderful to see people struggle intensly with, but finally memorize that one verse. We are at 48 who have quoted it. I am praying that God will make the truth of ACTS 1:8 real in our church It has also been eye-opening to realize that many in the church are convinced that they can not possibly memorize that one verse, or at least it is not worth the enormous effort. Can I encourage you to think about starting a church wide Scripture memory program in your church as we help our "Christian" culture know and appreciate what our God has to say. In Christ, your fellow servant and Scripture enthusiast, Phil Walker phil()scripturememorychallenge.org PS With help from a local pizza shop who let me have $15 gift certificates at a reduced price, we got 11 church members to quote from memory all 5 of the 2004 passages in one sitting. Praise God!! > ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: which version? From: Bible Memory List Hello, I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any messages until now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses memorized. However, with a full course load at University and my part-time job, I can no longer put in the same amount of time for memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to recalling those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3 verses a day until I memorize the book of Romans. What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find that if I memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved person for example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it leaves me to translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering if I should memorize from NKJV or even NASB. Glad to see this is up and running again! This means I have to start memorizing soon. -- Marcin Samiec http://marcin.samiec.info Sender: msamiec()telus.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Philippians From: Bible Memory List Dear Tom, I just finished Philippians this week. It took me almost two years due to my lack of consistent study, but I believe I have it for life. One thing that is helpful is to absolutely love that book, which I do. I did some of the self tests in the Scripture Memory 3 program, old-fashioned study on paper, and I listen to it at least twice a day in my car. I suggest putting it on CD with lots of breaks so you can keep playing one section until you have it. I also recommend studying it on paper or computer before trying to learn by listening. Listening is a good practice and review, but not a good way for me to learn from scratch. May the Lord keep you excited about that precious book until it is part of your long-term memory (the advantage of taking forever to learn something is that you remember it longer). Sue in Virginia Sender: heysue()naxs.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Philippians From: Bible Memory List I memorized Philippians about three years ago. The advice I would give is to memorize it thoroughly so you can quote it fluently without stutters and stalls. Then......quote the whole book at least once per day for the rest of your life...a very do-able and worthwhile daily activity. You will probably be motivated to memorize more chapters and books as I was. Blessings, Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bible Memory List" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 7:45 AM Subject: BibleMem: Philippians I am attempting my first full book of the Bible. I have chosen Philippians. Does anyone have anything that has especially helped them with that book? Tom in Indiana Sender: Tldewlen()aol.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: soderstrom()kpunet.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 5:32 PM Subject: BibleMem: Confessions From: Bible Memory List Hello, all! how are you? I have only been getting e-mails from this list for a couple of days now, and I can already tell it will be a big factor in me keeping on track and staying excited about Bible memory. Sometimes I think I'm weak that I need accoutnability for something so "simple", but I guess that's just the way we're made, to need each other. Anyhow, I just read today that Karen (also on this list) does her review and memorizing while she's walking. That's cool because I'm going to start getting back into Bible memory (have been out of it for a little over a month) while I ride my new stationary bike. I need to work on both my physical health and my spiritual health and I know that it will make my biking just fly by if I'm working on verses and not just staring at the little digital display that tells me how slow I'm going. :-) I really look forward to this. Also, another confession, I have been bad about reviewing verses and I know that's pretty stupid, that's like catch and release for fishing... fun at the time, but not very useful long term. I am going to work on reviewing verses too. Oh boy! I have a lot of stuff to get together. Thanks for the support and encouragement I've been getting from all of you! I will stay in touch. -Meg morehorsies()peoplepc.com ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 5:32 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: which version? From: Bible Memory List   I like the NASB.  I think it is the most accurate and with the NASB update it is very understandable.   In Christ   Lee Delbridge HYPERLINK "mailto:LeeDelbridge()msn.com"LeeDelbridge()msn.com     ----- Original Message ----- From: Bible Memory List Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 2:34 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: which version?   Hello, I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any messages until now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses memorized. However, with a full course load at University and my part-time job, I can no longer put in the same amount of time for memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to recalling those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3 verses a day until I memorize the book of Romans. What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find that if I memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved person for example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it leaves me to translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering if I should memorize from NKJV or even NASB. Glad to see this is up and running again! This means I have to start memorizing soon. -- Marcin Samiec http://marcin.samiec.info Sender: msamiec()telus.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: LDelbridge()msn.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Re: staying the course From: Bible Memory List Thanks a lot for the reply.  That's funny what you said about going to the wisdom books, because I did that for a while.  I thought that maybe I needed a change and that the Lord possibly wanted me elsewhere in the word.  I started to memorize Proverbs and I made it about as far as where you are now.  However, I used the KJV and I think hampered me from continuing.  I was trying to use the KJV more b/c of the accuracy, but it's now what I'm used to.  I usually use NIV.  I'm curious what version you are memorizing from.  I would be willing to commit to doing the next 10 verses with you as a prayer partner and for accountability.  I will also include my five year old.  She has a lot of scripture memorized and enjoys it.  I home-school her, so we include it in her writing lessons, etc.  What do you think?    Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: HYPERLINK "mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org"Bible Memory List To: HYPERLINK "mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org"biblememory()memoryverses.org Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:36 AM Subject: BibleMem: Re: staying the course The below reads just like my story! I too started in on memorizing Acts, got to chapter five, and fizzeled out. Perhaps one day I will pick it up again and finish the project, but not for now. I dropped the project because it became evident to me that Acts was simply not the place for me to be focusing my time and effort. The Lord has impressed upon me more and more my need to get wisdom and thus my focus is now on memorizing wisdom literature. In that vein I've thus far memorized Ecclesiasties, Proverbs 1-9 and am currently working on Proverbs 10 - 31. As I work on memorizing wisdom literature my heart is filled with joy for it seems that I'm focusing on exactly the Scripture the Lord wants me to learn. I encourage each of you not only to memorize Scripture but to prayfully consider where in Scripture God would have you focus. -- David Baldwin HYPERLINK "mailto:david()word2life.com"david()word2life.com http://www.word2life.com"www.word2life.com Dramatically Presenting the Bible It is so wonderful to be part of this group! I have longed for a place where I could share with others who are of like minds regarding scripture memory. Seeing all of the e-mails begin to filter through, has been such a comfort to me recently. It is motivating, to say the least. God knew I needed it! I usually don't share with others regarding how much or what portions of the bible I have memorized, because I absolutely do not want to sound boastful. I love the word with all my heart and am thankful for the ability to memorize. However, I am truly glad that I can feel comfortable here to share what is on my heart and what I'm memorizing. Has anyone memorized the book of Acts? I started it a couple of years ago, but have not been able to stay the course. I am so eager to get to the chapter about Stephen's testimony. However, I have had a lot of trouble staying motivated with memorization since becoming the mother of two, with one on the way, and having some health problems as well. What are some good suggestions to sticking with it? I do pray about it and the desire is there. I have memorized large portions of scripture in the past, but I feel somewhat discouraged about not being able to go forward with Acts. I've made it to about chapter 5, but will need some review. I think just being a part of this group will help...I know it will. However, I would love any suggestions or just for someone to share their own exp. with struggling to stay at it and what God showed them. Thanks. ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: HYPERLINK "mailto:david()word2life.com"david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: twsm()msn.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: On Acts and choosing what to memorize From: Bible Memory List I agree. Sometimes we decide ourselves that we're going to do something, or God directs us, but we need to be flexible. Even if you are supposed to memorize the book of Acts, maybe now is not the time for it to be your main focus. Maybe it's something for later. I've had to learn to be flexible and not just follow my plan, but try to follow where I'm being led. Let's face it! Most of the time we're blindfolded. On that note. I try not to plan my memorization too far ahead. this has worked in two ways- to let me drop something I thought I was going to memorize for something I felt more strongly led to memorize, without feeling like a quitter. For two, it's actually led to me memorizing more than I originally thought I was going to or could from certain passages. Who knew? I definitely wouldn't stress about it. -Meg -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List Sent: Feb 16, 2005 11:36 AM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Re: staying the course The below reads just like my story!  I too started in on memorizing Acts, got to chapter five, and fizzeled out.  Perhaps one day I will pick it up again and finish the project, but not for now. I dropped the project because it became evident to me that Acts was simply not the place for me to be focusing my time and effort.  The Lord has impressed upon me more and more my need to get wisdom and thus my focus is now on memorizing wisdom literature.  In that vein I've thus far memorized Ecclesiasties, Proverbs 1-9 and am currently working on Proverbs 10 - 31.  As I work on memorizing wisdom literature my heart is filled with joy for it seems that I'm focusing on exactly the Scripture the Lord wants me to learn.  I encourage each of you not only to memorize Scripture but to prayfully consider where in Scripture God would have you focus. -- David Baldwin david()word2life.com http://www.word2life.com"www.word2life.com Dramatically Presenting the Bible It is so wonderful to be part of this group!  I have longed for a place where I could share with others who are of like minds regarding scripture memory.  Seeing all of the e-mails begin to filter through, has been such a comfort to me recently.  It is motivating, to say the least.  God knew I needed it!  I usually don't share with others regarding how much or what portions of the bible I have memorized, because I absolutely do not want to sound boastful.  I love the word with all my heart and am thankful for the ability to memorize.  However, I am truly glad that I can feel comfortable here to share what is on my heart and what I'm memorizing.  Has anyone memorized the book of Acts?  I started it a couple of years ago, but have not been able to stay the course.  I am so eager to get to the chapter about Stephen's testimony.  However, I have had a lot of trouble staying motivated with memorization since becoming the mother of two, with one on the way, and having some health problems as well.  What are some good suggestions to sticking with it?  I do pray about it and the desire is there.  I have memorized large portions of scripture in the past, but I feel somewhat discouraged about not being able to go forward with Acts. I've made it to about chapter 5, but will need some review.  I think just being a part of this group will help...I know it will.  However, I would love any suggestions or just for someone to share their own exp. with struggling to stay at it and what God showed them.   Thanks. ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: (Mel) From: Bible Memory List Mel, I will definately be lifting you and your daughter up during this 40 days or renewal, and for your school work - it is quite a lot to keep up with, isn't it?   As for your suggestion on focusing on scripture to renew my mind, in a sense, that is what I am doing.   I had been praying a great deal about learning to worship and praise more fully - I feel that I am so limited by my human language and emotions in this area.  Some weeks back as I was praying, the LORD spoke to my spirit, telling me to spend a time just in praise and worship, without asking anything for myself.  Now I know the bible says to let our request be made known to God, so I filed this away mentally to muse over, and to verify that I had understood correctly.  Within one week, I had picked up two new books, both by authors I trust, who reported similar experiences.  I may be slow, but I did finally get the message - so for this 40 days (39 to go) I am seeking God in praise and worship and interceeding for others, trusting that He knows my needs better than myself.  The scriptures I will be memorizing through this period all have to do with encouraging worship and an enlarge appreciation for who and what God is.  Yesterday, I memorized Psalm 71:6-8 reminding me that God created me, delivered me, and has kept me since He planned me in eternity.  Today I am looking at God as Father, and will be memorizing Matt.6:32 and Luke 12:31-32.   Know that for the next 39 days, intercession is taking on a new priority in my prayer life, and that I will be daily lifting you up.    Denna Bible Memory List wrote: Denna your honesty is so refreshing!  I too am a full time graduate student and struggle with scripture memorization. I will be in prayer for you for victory in that area. Please do the same for me.  My daughter and I are on a 40-day renewing of the mind with scriptures time of consecration which began yesterday  The desire to be faithful in scripture memory is half the battle.  Maybe during your 40-day consecration time you might wish to focus on scripture that will allow you to renew your mind in specific areas. Blessings Mel ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ji bjabinaugural.html"Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Sender: waudenna()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Know yourself spiritually and physically From: Bible Memory List Terry, Thanks for your comment about the genealogies of scripture being intended to indicate the right person to do ministry.  The Lord has recently been calling my attention to these in my daily Bible reading, and I have been praying about what He is wanting to show me.  I think your comment is part of His answer. I also use audio when I memorize, but I record the verses in my own voice leaving space to recite the versed either before or after.  I found this idea in the archives, and it has really helped me. Judy Bible Memory List wrote: Hi Stephen and others, At the moment I really discovered the importance to know yourself. Both spiritually and physically. Memorization can really help in your walk with the Lord. But we have to be careful to memorize the right texts. What is our argument to choose a text to memorize? Is it to boost of our huge Bible knowledge so we can show off to everyone that we 'even' know that verse? Or is it exactly the verse the Lord wants us to know by heart? The verse that we struggle with and makes us feel we have a long way to go with the Lord in this exact area. I personally believe that there is no text in the Bible that is 'theory only'. Even the genealogies were intended to indicate the right person to do a ministry. There is no theoretical knowledge needed to be able to enter the Kingdom. So if God is trying to change me, I should listen to the texts He wants me to hear. It is also important to know yourself physically. How is your brain functioning? People tend to have preferences in memorization techniques; so let's use that. People often use the phrase 'photographic memory' when they mean 'very good memory'. But it is rather a description of how that brain prefers to remember things: by pictures! People like that have bad luck when it comes to Bible memorization; there are no pictures in most Bibles. They often have to create their own mental pictures when they try to memorize the Bible. But there is much more your brain can prefer to remember. Some prefer written text. I personally am an audio person. At school I never did my homework because I didn't need to (my teachers disagreed on that...). If I visited the lessons, I listened to the explanation of the teacher and that was sufficient for me to pass tests, including my exams. Even now I remember a lot of what these teachers said to me almost 20 years ago. I should use that in Bible memorization. So I mainly use audio bibles. There are plenty. For Dutch speaking persons like me, there is http://www.voorleesbijbel.nl/ My English speaking brothers and sisters may use http://www.audiotreasure.com/ Other languages, including Hebrew old testament for the original text users: http://www.audioscripture.com/ And a greek new testament is found at http://www.ccel.org/a/anonymous/gnt/home.html Pronounced better, but (for now) incomplete greek and latin new testament: http://www.greeklatinaudio.com/ This is what is freely available, ready to download and use. But there are also good products available commercially, or you could ask libraries for the blind if they have audio bibles available to seeing persons as well. Synthetic speech can be a 'last resort' if your favorite translation is not available... OK, enough about audio bibles. What I try to say is that it is useful to investigate how your memory works and use that. It can really be frustrating otherwise. Terry ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ji bjabinaugural.html"Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Sender: praise_grace1983()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List Rev. David C. Huff Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church 285 Main Street Lilburn, GA 30047 770-921-1220 Ext. 240 dhuff()firstbaptist.net -----Original Message----- From: Huff, David Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM To: 'Bible Memory List' Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Everyone: Good to see the list active again! I began memorizing large passages about 2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit into my life since then. My best review time is during the morning "shower and dress" routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of anything (except possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-). I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation have brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming spiritual discipline I have ever pursued! I lead a men's mentoring/discipleship ministry in our church, and we are using Scripture memory with some wonderful results!! The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5 -7), and it still remains my favorite. I've also worked my way through James and I John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with a number of shorter Psalms. Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge - Psalm 119. Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility -- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me to memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own. Some weeks I accomplish more than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to APPLY what I'm learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and disciplines -- me. It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!! I look forward to hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm 119:11. In Christ, David Rev. David C. Huff Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church 285 Main Street Lilburn, GA 30047 770-921-1220 Ext. 240 dhuff()firstbaptist.net -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:16 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Greetings, It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long. Now however, I would like to get things going again ... > If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with the words > "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top of the body of the > message. I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture. How is everybody doing? What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months? What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others? Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: dhuff()firstbaptist.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Philippians From: Bible Memory List I memorized the book of Philippians when my first child was a baby, about 3-4 years ago now.  I just took a few verses every evening, b/c that was my time when the house was quiet and I could really focus.  It helped me to say it out loud for my husband and parents.  I loved the feeling of getting into character, as if I was Paul talking to that group of people.  You can really feel the emotion behind it when you say it out loud to someone who you are comfortable with.  That made it come alive for me.  I also was given the opportunity to recite the book in two churches, which was just amazing.  I am NOT a public speaker and I was so scared!  However, I have never felt so filled with the spirit of God as I recited...it felt like God was speaking through me!  I usually get just panicked in from of people and hyperventilate or talk to fast, but I was totally calm and was able to say the whole thing with no mistakes both times.  It was a witness to me and I will never forget it. And, it cemented in my heart that the reason for memorizing is not just for myself, but for others.  It blessed a lot of people.  I was truly humbled.  God is just so awesome!   I will pray for you as you memorize!   In Him,   Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: HYPERLINK "mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org"Bible Memory List To: HYPERLINK "mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org"biblememory()memoryverses.org Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:45 AM Subject: BibleMem: Philippians I am attempting my first full book of the Bible. I have chosen Philippians. Does anyone have anything that has especially helped them with that book? Tom in Indiana Sender: HYPERLINK "mailto:Tldewlen()aol.com"Tldewlen()aol.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: twsm()msn.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: RE: New member From: Bible Memory List Geoff. If you haven't already memorized these I would suggest the Romans Road to salvation.  It is: Rom. 3:23; Rom. 6:23: Rom. 5:8; Rom. 10: 9,10; Rom. 10:13; and Eph. 2: 8-10.  I had the children in a Sunday School class of 8 to 12 year olds I used to teach memorized these, and two of them were saved. Judy Bible Memory List wrote: Dear Friends, Greetings from Leicester, UK! I work with a Sunday School group for 5-7 year olds, and am very keen to have the children memorising a verse a month in a one-year cycle - so 12 verses altogether. John 3:16, John 14:6 and Acts 1:8 already memorised (allegedly...) I would be very interested in members' views on THE 12 verses to go for. If (as I hope) this generates a fair bit of correspondence, remember that any additional verse requires another to be jettisoned! With many thanks for your help and very best wishes, Geoff Dr Geoff Tennant Mathematics Education Lecturer School of Education 21 University Road ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ji bjabinaugural.html"Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Sender: praise_grace1983()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Re: Re: New member From: Bible Memory List Dear Brother, Love your idea of using a verse a day in all our communications with fellow christians!  I use the verses I have memorized as prayers for others.  This would also remind me to take a few minutes to pray for that brother or sister that I'm writing to. Judy Bible Memory List wrote: Hi dear all I was wondering what happened with the memoryverses.org as there has been a long silence. am a pastor from india, but now working in a ministry in USA where part of my family moved in recently- when i said part - i still have my elder and minor children still in india. i found one of the best way to remember verses is to use one verse daily in any communication you make to other christians.. letters or e-mails.. i remember when i was a small boy, my eldest brother who was serving in indian army used to write letters whome - of course these letters comes once in a month- and all letters have one verse on the top. how do you all likes this idea?? and this will make us memorise the verse as well as the person on the other side? pls share your views, and my e-mail in this part of the world is - equipindia()sbcglobal.net - Blessings. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bible Memory List Date: Monday, February 14, 2005 2:43 pm Subject: BibleMem: Re: New member > I am an Awana leader & commander. I earned my citatation award by > doing 14 books several years ago & am working on my second one. Have > memorized about 800 verses so far Jodi > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bible Memory List > Sent: Feb 14, 2005 9:35 AM > To: biblememory()memoryverses.org > Subject: BibleMem: New member > > Hi! I'm Michele and am very excited to be here. I would LOVE to join > and have a group of Christians with which to memorize large sections > of the Bible. I am homeschooling my two children, 4 and 2, and I want > to teach them as well. Hope to get to know you all soon!! Thanks, > Michele > > > > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ji bjabinaugural.html"Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Sender: praise_grace1983()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Re: Scripture songs From: Bible Memory List Deborah, Thanks for asking the question about being sure of what the Lord would have you memorize next.  This is my greatest recent struggle with memory work. I'm  right there with you on not always being sure of my 'hearing' the Lord correctly.  But I know He will make this clear for us if we persevere in what we do know.  I also went through a struggle on what translation He would have me to use when I first started with regular memorization.  Not only did the Lord make it crystal clear in His own time and way, but He also used this struggle to hear Him clearly to bless me in many other ways. I believe He will do the same with discerning His will in what verses to memorize because He has promised both direction and wisdom to those who ask.  Maybe you question and the answers it receives will be part of His answer for us. Love, Judy Bible Memory List wrote: I was just going to say, our speaker last night said he met a Presbyterian family last year who only sing Psalms. As a result, their children, not yet grown, have over half the psalms memorized! I started memorizing 1 Peter probably over a year ago - when I got almost to the end of the 2nd chapter I let various distractions get in the way, and have not soldiered through. Aside from an obvious enemy who would discourage the process, and my own weak flesh, I wonder if it is because I chose it without enough prayer and should have picked another book. I'm not so sure of my "hearing" at times, how have others known for sure what to memorize? Grace, Deborah > > > >> >> >> >> >> >======================================================================= >=== > > >>To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" >>in the subject >> >> >> >> > >======================================================================= >=== > >To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > > > -- "One can no more detach God’s sovereign transcendence from his personhood, or vice versa, than one can safely detach one wing from an airplane and still expect it to fly." DA Carson ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ji bjabinaugural.html"Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Sender: praise_grace1983()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: Re: staying the course From: Bible Memory List It is very encouraging to see people responding to memorizing scripture! I have not really concentrated on chapters or books - only chapters here and there because of God's leading. Most of my memorization is individual verses and passages. My prayer is that all of us will seek God's leading in this endeavor. Mainly, that as James 1:22 says, "But be ye doers of the word and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.". I have memorized quite a number of scriptures over the years and have been recently convicted about organizing the memorized verses into topic format. It is really difficult to share with others particular verses sometimes because the verse is in with a hundred others and I have a hard time remembering the reference. Jack Van Impe has some good pointers on his website that encourages also memorizing "topic outlines" along with the references so that the scriptures are more handy for use. For those who may not know , he has been referred to as "the walking Bible". May God bless us all in hiding His word in our heart and not just in our minds. If it is in our hearts, it cannot help but show forth in our lives. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:37 AM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Re: staying the course The below reads just like my story!  I too started in on memorizing Acts, got to chapter five, and fizzeled out.  Perhaps one day I will pick it up again and finish the project, but not for now. I dropped the project because it became evident to me that Acts was simply not the place for me to be focusing my time and effort.  The Lord has impressed upon me more and more my need to get wisdom and thus my focus is now on memorizing wisdom literature.  In that vein I've thus far memorized Ecclesiasties, Proverbs 1-9 and am currently working on Proverbs 10 - 31.  As I work on memorizing wisdom literature my heart is filled with joy for it seems that I'm focusing on exactly the Scripture the Lord wants me to learn.  I encourage each of you not only to memorize Scripture but to prayfully consider where in Scripture God would have you focus. -- David Baldwin david()word2life.com http://www.word2life.com"www.word2life.com Dramatically Presenting the Bible It is so wonderful to be part of this group!  I have longed for a place where I could share with others who are of like minds regarding scripture memory.  Seeing all of the e-mails begin to filter through, has been such a comfort to me recently.  It is motivating, to say the least.  God knew I needed it!  I usually don't share with others regarding how much or what portions of the bible I have memorized, because I absolutely do not want to sound boastful.  I love the word with all my heart and am thankful for the ability to memorize.  However, I am truly glad that I can feel comfortable here to share what is on my heart and what I'm memorizing.  Has anyone memorized the book of Acts?  I started it a couple of years ago, but have not been able to stay the course.  I am so eager to get to the chapter about Stephen's testimony.  However, I have had a lot of trouble staying motivated with memorization since becoming the mother of two, with one on the way, and having some health problems as well.  What are some good suggestions to sticking with it?  I do pray about it and the desire is there.  I have memorized large portions of scripture in the past, but I feel somewhat discouraged about not being able to go forward with Acts. I've made it to about chapter 5, but will need some review.  I think just being a part of this group will help...I know it will.  However, I would love any suggestions or just for someone to share their own exp. with struggling to stay at it and what God showed them.   Thanks. ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: CCarlton()AugustaMed.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 5:32 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: Bible Memory Group From: Bible Memory List Greetings! Yes, it seems sad how people value the Bible so little. The Bible is one of my treasures here on earth! I want to memorize as much of it as I can, especially while I am young, and allow God's words to transform me and make me more effective in His Kingdom. Thank you to each of you for your contribution in this discussion list. Please show your face to all of us over at www.Pursuinglife.com sometime! Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich www.pursuinglife.com A discipleship site for Bible memory fanatics. -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:45 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: About Church Bible Memory Projects I tried doing a Bible Memory Group in our church. At first, there were about 10 people "seriously" interested. Pretty good for a congregation with membership just over a hundred. needless to say, only 1-3 and people showed up for our monthly meetings, seven meetings total. Actually, at the last meeting it was just me sitting there for an hour. It is really pitiful, the lack of diligence in our culture to do what we know we ought to do and even what we want to do. I announced the end of the group as a result of inadequate attendance and participation. Even the people that showed up would have not memorized even one thing, and what kind of meeting can be made out of that? Glad to have found a community on the web that can be some real community and accountability for me on this. -Meg -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List Sent: Feb 14, 2005 2:32 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Scripture memory New web site: www.scripturememorychallenge.org Memorizing and Loving it Dear memorizing friends, Hi. My name is Phil Walker. I have been a member for a couple years now and always enjoy reading how God is at work in your lives in the area of Scripture memory. My most recent memorized chapters are ISAIAH 53 (25 of us at Upton Lake Christian School in Clinton Corners, NY memorized this as a school project) and ISAIAH 6 (in joining one of my students who decided on his own to memorize this.) Both have long been on my "someday" list, and it was a thrill to get them. The majesty of God (6) and the glorious suffering of Christ (53) have given me some wonderful things to meditate on. I would like to encourage you to visit my website www.scripturememorychallenge.org The main feature is the New Testament One Year Challenge where I hope, Lord willing, to soon have thousands of Christians around the world memorizing one key verse from every chapter of the New Testament in a year. We also have HAKOTS - Hearts After Key Old Testament Scripture - who are doing the same with the OT. I would love any help any of you could give me in spreading the word about the New Testament One Year Challenge (new groups start every Sept and Jan 1st.) to those you know who might be interested as well as those of you who have websites who would be willing to link to www.scripturememorychallenge.org Finally, I would like to encourage you to consider church Scripture memory. I approached the pastor a year ago and he supported the idea. He picks the passage and we go at a very slow pace. In 2004 we only learned 5 short passages (Ex 34:5-7, 19:5-6, Rom 5:6-8, Ps 63:1-4, and Is 9:6-7) At times it has been frustrating. After the initial novelty of the idea got 38 (out of about 120 church attenders) to learn the first passage, it dropped quickly with less than 20 having learned the last two. To begin this new year, the pastor wanted to start with just ACTS 1:8. I thought that was pretty wimpy, but went along. It has been truly wonderful to see people struggle intensly with, but finally memorize that one verse. We are at 48 who have quoted it. I am praying that God will make the truth of ACTS 1:8 real in our church It has also been eye-opening to realize that many in the church are convinced that they can not possibly memorize that one verse, or at least it is not worth the enormous effort. Can I encourage you to think about starting a church wide Scripture memory program in your church as we help our "Christian" culture know and appreciate what our God has to say. In Christ, your fellow servant and Scripture enthusiast, Phil Walker phil()scripturememorychallenge.org PS With help from a local pizza shop who let me have $15 gift certificates at a reduced price, we got 11 church members to quote from memory all 5 of the 2004 passages in one sitting. Praise God!! > ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 17, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: which version? From: Bible Memory List Hello, I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any messages until now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses memorized. However, with a full course load at University and my part-time job, I can no longer put in the same amount of time for memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to recalling those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3 verses a day until I memorize the book of Romans. What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find that if I memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved person for example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it leaves me to translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering if I should memorize from NKJV or even NASB. Glad to see this is up and running again! This means I have to start memorizing soon. -- Marcin Samiec http://marcin.samiec.info Sender: msamiec()telus.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: BibleMem: RE: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List Hi, It was good to hear from you! How often do you review the Sermon on the Mount? I have been reviewing Matthew 5-7 about once a week, but I am still rusty on it. I hope to eventually get it better. Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich lavern()pursuinglife.com www.pursuinglife.com -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:31 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Rev. David C. Huff Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church 285 Main Street Lilburn, GA 30047 770-921-1220 Ext. 240 dhuff()firstbaptist.net -----Original Message----- From: Huff, David Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM To: 'Bible Memory List' Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Everyone: Good to see the list active again! I began memorizing large passages about 2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit into my life since then. My best review time is during the morning "shower and dress" routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of anything (except possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-). I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation have brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming spiritual discipline I have ever pursued! I lead a men's mentoring/discipleship ministry in our church, and we are using Scripture memory with some wonderful results!! The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5 -7), and it still remains my favorite. I've also worked my way through James and I John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with a number of shorter Psalms. Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge - Psalm 119. Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility -- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me to memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own. Some weeks I accomplish more than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to APPLY what I'm learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and disciplines -- me. It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!! I look forward to hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm 119:11. In Christ, David Rev. David C. Huff Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church 285 Main Street Lilburn, GA 30047 770-921-1220 Ext. 240 dhuff()firstbaptist.net -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:16 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Greetings, It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long. Now however, I would like to get things going again ... > If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with the words > "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top of the body of the > message. I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture. How is everybody doing? What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months? What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others? Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: dhuff()firstbaptist.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: BibleMem: Audio Bible Question From: Bible Memory List Hello!   Do you know of any audio Bible that has each verse (or several verses) on a separate track?   Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich lavern()pursuinglife.com www.pursuinglife.com Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: BibleMem: FW: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List -----Original Message----- From: Huff, David Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM To: 'Bible Memory List' Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Everyone: Good to see the list active again! I began memorizing large passages about 2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit into my life since then. My best review time is during the morning "shower and dress" routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of anything (except possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-). I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation have brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming spiritual discipline I have ever pursued! I lead a men's mentoring/discipleship ministry in our church, and we are using Scripture memory with some wonderful results!! The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5 -7), and it still remains my favorite. I've also worked my way through James and I John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with a number of shorter Psalms. Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge - Psalm 119. Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility -- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me to memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own. Some weeks I accomplish more than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to APPLY what I'm learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and disciplines -- me. It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!! I look forward to hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm 119:11. In Christ, David Rev. David C. Huff Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church 285 Main Street Lilburn, GA 30047 770-921-1220 Ext. 240 dhuff()firstbaptist.net -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:16 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Greetings, It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long. Now however, I would like to get things going again ... > If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with the words > "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top of the body of the > message. I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture. How is everybody doing? What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months? What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others? Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: dhuff()firstbaptist.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 2:32 PM Subject: BibleMem: Introduction From: Bible Memory List Boy, it's GREAT to see this board active again!! :) Let me reintroduce myself. My name is Beth. I've been memorizing the Word for quite a while, and as of late, have discovered Scripture Songs to help me. When memorizing chapters, I not only read it over and over, but listen to it on cd over and over. Hearing it really helps somehow. The Bible Version Question: I admire those of you have have picked a translation and only memorize out of that. Among other things, if the reference is someday forgotten, it makes it a lot easier to know *which* concordance to look in for the verse. :) Over the years I have memorized out of the KJV, the NKJV, the NIV, the NASB and the ESV. It makes my brain a Hines of sorts! This past year, I have used mainly the ESV and KJV. KJV - mostly in Psalms. There's something about memorizing the Psalms in the KJV. That is mostly for my own enjoyment and use. Most verses that can be used to witness I use the ESV for. The ESV is also helpful for chapters worth of text. After several verses, the KJ sentence structure usually trips up my memorization. The ESV is a conservative revision of the RSV - Came out in 2001. . It is strong, poetic and accurate. You can read about the translation philosophy etc here : http://www.gnpcb.org/home/esv I hope that that was my last "switch" I'll have, BUT it is truly God's Spirit that brings His Words to life, no matter what translation one memorizes out of. The greatest thing about memorizing to me has been how its helped my daily fellowship with God, and how He has used it to speak to me throughout the day, and reveal His truths. Ya'll have challenged me to step up my memorizations. I have enjoyed all your introductions and am so pleased to be on this list! in Him Beth Sender: bethmon()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: BibleMem: On the Decision of Version From: Bible Memory List Hi! How are you? As for which version to memorize, I do the NKJV. Sometimes I wish I had started out using NIV, because it's the most popular among Chritians I know, besides the KJV. I read in a couple of places that the main thing is to not try to memorize different passages from different versions. They said b/c you'll get used to the usual word orders, style and vocabulary one and then your brain will try to impose that on the other version and just wind up confusing yourself and making precision more difficult. I think that if you want to switch versions, now's the time, since you're starting up again. Personally, I think it's a good idea to use a version that is easily understood today. Being in more contemporary language doesn't mean being watered down. Think of people in the 17th and 18th centuries. For them, the KJV was contemporary, and controversial. It wasn't Latin, or the original Greek and Hebrew! That upset a lot of people. Some people today get upset about contemporary translations. It's the same old debate. If you're in conflict over this, or someone is telling you only the KJV is trustworthy, I definitely recommend a book called "The King James Only Controversy." It could help you clear things up. Much love in Christ! -Meg -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List Sent: Feb 17, 2005 2:31 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: which version? Hello, I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any messages until now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses memorized. However, with a full course load at University and my part-time job, I can no longer put in the same amount of time for memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to recalling those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3 verses a day until I memorize the book of Romans. What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find that if I memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved person for example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it leaves me to translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering if I should memorize from NKJV or even NASB. Glad to see this is up and running again! This means I have to start memorizing soon. -- Marcin Samiec http://marcin.samiec.info Sender: msamiec()telus.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: BibleMem: RE: which version? From: Bible Memory List Greetings! I am so glad to hear that you are memorizing Romans! I am doing the same and am in chapter 8 now. (You may read more about my Bible memory project on my site at www.pursuinglife.com). I hope to get finished with Romans around June 2005. I memorize in KJV, and I love that version. Yet I have questioned whether it's the best version to memorize. Maybe I should memorize from a version that's written in a style we can understand easier. I have a friend that prefers the New King James version, because it's better for modern readers yet based on the KJV. May God bless you all! I am so blessed to be on this list. It's great. Keep 'em coming! Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich www.pursuinglife.com -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:31 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: which version? Hello, I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any messages until now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses memorized. However, with a full course load at University and my part-time job, I can no longer put in the same amount of time for memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to recalling those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3 verses a day until I memorize the book of Romans. What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find that if I memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved person for example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it leaves me to translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering if I should memorize from NKJV or even NASB. Glad to see this is up and running again! This means I have to start memorizing soon. -- Marcin Samiec http://marcin.samiec.info Sender: msamiec()telus.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 4:57 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Audio Bible Question From: Bible Memory List Hello Lavern, I've often wondered the same thing. Wouldn't it be just great to have that? Unfortunately, I don't think anyone has had the time to cut audio bible's into verse tracks. It would take an extremely long amount of human processing time. I've always wanted to find something like that, so I could take all the verses I memorized scattered throughout the Bible and place them on CD. Plus, I doubt a CD player would be able to support anything like 100+ tracks on one CD. In Christ, Marcin Samiec http://marcin.samiec.info On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:27:50 -0500, Bible Memory List wrote: > Hello! > > > > Do you know of any audio Bible that has each verse (or several verses) > on a separate track? > > > > Sincerely, > > Lavern Gingerich > > lavern()pursuinglife.com > > www.pursuinglife.com > > Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > -- Marcin Samiec Sender: marcin.samiec()gmail.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: BibleMem: Re: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List Dear Rev. David,   I found it encouraging to read that you are memorizing the 119th Psalm.  I am working on that as well, though it seems to be going slowly.  I am taking a break from it until after Easter, as I am working on a different memorization project for the season.  How far have you made it?  Everytime I read this chapter I am amazed at what I see about how precious the Word of God is - how it has been given to use for our benefit, and how much of God Himself is revealed.  I am awed each time.   It was good to see that you are from Georgia.  I was born in Tenn., and surely wish that you could right with a southern drawl.  Since I moved to Missouri I have been teased a great deal about my drawl, but I really miss hearing it from others.  That seems rather odd in a way, Greek and Hebrew text, translated into formal english, which I speak with a southern drawl. Oh, well, God loves variety, He has made that obvious!   I will be praying for your completion of this project.  I really wish things were different in my life right now - I am unable to attend church, and have not been able to for several years because of family problems.  However, I believe God is using this time to teach me many things, including discipline in prayer and study of His word.  I pray that someday circumstances will change, that I may be able to again belong to a church and be active - I miss that more than I can say.  But until then, I have been forced to look to God alone for my discipleship.  It is scary at times, not that I do not trust that He can and does disciple me, but I fear I may be misunderstanding Him on occasion.   Anyway, I will be supporting you in prayer, and I am confident that God is going to bless your efforts.   "Proverbs 16:1 "The preparations of the heart belong to man, but the answer of the tongue is form the LORD." Denna Bible Memory List wrote: Rev. David C. Huff Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church 285 Main Street Lilburn, GA 30047 770-921-1220 Ext. 240 dhuff()firstbaptist.net -----Original Message----- From: Huff, David Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM To: 'Bible Memory List' Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Everyone: Good to see the list active again! I began memorizing large passages about 2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit into my life since then. My best review time is during the morning "shower and dress" routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of anything (except possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-). I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation have brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming spiritual discipline I have ever pursued! I lead a men's mentoring/discipleship ministry in our church, and we are using Scripture memory with some wonderful results!! The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5 -7), and it still remains my favorite. I've also worked my way through James and I John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with a number of shorter Psalms. Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge - Psalm 119. Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility -- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me to memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own. Some weeks I accomplish more than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to APPLY what I'm learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and disciplines -- me. It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!! I look forward to hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm 119:11. In Christ, David Rev. David C. Huff Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church 285 Main Street Lilburn, GA 30047 770-921-1220 Ext. 240 dhuff()firstbaptist.net -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:16 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Greetings, It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long. Now however, I would like to get things going again ... > If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with the words > "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top of the body of the > message. I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture. How is everybody doing? What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months? What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others? Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: dhuff()firstbaptist.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=29916/*http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250"Learn more. Sender: waudenna()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: BibleMem: RE: Re: Philippians From: Bible Memory List Sue: Congratulations on memorizing Philippians! That must be a blessing! Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich lavern()pursuinglife.com www.pursuinglife.com -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:31 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Re: Philippians Dear Tom, I just finished Philippians this week. It took me almost two years due to my lack of consistent study, but I believe I have it for life. One thing that is helpful is to absolutely love that book, which I do. I did some of the self tests in the Scripture Memory 3 program, old-fashioned study on paper, and I listen to it at least twice a day in my car. I suggest putting it on CD with lots of breaks so you can keep playing one section until you have it. I also recommend studying it on paper or computer before trying to learn by listening. Listening is a good practice and review, but not a good way for me to learn from scratch. May the Lord keep you excited about that precious book until it is part of your long-term memory (the advantage of taking forever to learn something is that you remember it longer). Sue in Virginia Sender: heysue()naxs.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 4:57 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: RE: which version? From: Bible Memory List Hello, I prayed it over and it looks like I'll stay with KJV. I've considered the NASB, LITV, and the NKJV. I've memorized the book of Jude in one week with the KJV when I was at Poland two summers ago, and I love the style of writing. BTW, I've chosen to take up Colossians before I tackle something like Romans. I just remembered it has 16 chapters -- looks a bit too tall for me to tackle right away. At the height of my memorization streak a while back, I would be able to memorize 12 verses in one day while working slow shifts in the fitting room at work. With prayer and training I plan to get myself to memorize that much again. Blessings, Marcin Samiec On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:27:51 -0500, Bible Memory List wrote: > Greetings! > > I am so glad to hear that you are memorizing Romans! I am doing the > same and am in chapter 8 now. (You may read more about my Bible memory > project on my site at www.pursuinglife.com). I hope to get finished > with Romans around June 2005. > > I memorize in KJV, and I love that version. Yet I have questioned > whether it's the best version to memorize. Maybe I should memorize > from a version that's written in a style we can understand easier. I > have a friend that prefers the New King James version, because it's > better for modern readers yet based on the KJV. > > May God bless you all! I am so blessed to be on this list. It's great. > Keep 'em coming! > > Sincerely, > Lavern Gingerich > www.pursuinglife.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:31 PM > To: biblememory()memoryverses.org > Subject: BibleMem: which version? > > Hello, > > I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any > messages until now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses > memorized. However, with a full course load at University and my > part-time job, I can no longer put in the same amount of time for > memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to recalling > those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3 > verses a day until I memorize the book of Romans. > > What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find > that if I memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved > person for > example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it > leaves me to translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering > if I should memorize from NKJV or even NASB. > > Glad to see this is up and running again! This means I have to start > memorizing soon. > > -- > Marcin Samiec > http://marcin.samiec.info > > Sender: msamiec()telus.net > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > -- Marcin Samiec Sender: marcin.samiec()gmail.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: BibleMem: Re: which version? From: Bible Memory List Dear Marcin, That is the very reason I began using only the NKJV for memory work.  I had memorized in various versions, and finally recognized the need to use just one - I could not always remember which version I memorized which verse from, which made review difficult.   It sounds as if you are already off to a wonderful start.  Keep on going in the LORD, and I am sure He will bless your efforts.   Denna Bible Memory List wrote: Hello, I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any messages until now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses memorized. However, with a full course load at University and my part-time job, I can no longer put in the same amount of time for memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to recalling those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3 verses a day until I memorize the book of Romans. What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find that if I memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved person for example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it leaves me to translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering if I should memorize from NKJV or even NASB. Glad to see this is up and running again! This means I have to start memorizing soon. -- Marcin Samiec http://marcin.samiec.info Sender: msamiec()telus.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ji bjabinaugural.html"Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Sender: waudenna()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 2:32 PM Subject: BibleMem: Sermon On The Mount Review From: Bible Memory List Hi Lavern! In my current review "system", which seems to work pretty well for me, I review the Sermon On The Mount every third day, along with a couple of other passages. As time goes by, that may decrease to about once a week or so, as I learn (hopefully :-) more Scripture. Like I mentioned, this was the 1st large passage I tried, so it's a favorite and especially dear to my heart. Since it's almost entirely the words of Jesus, it feels especially personal to me. By the way, I visited your website -- very nicely done!! David H. -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:28 AM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: RE: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Hi, It was good to hear from you! How often do you review the Sermon on the Mount? I have been reviewing Matthew 5-7 about once a week, but I am still rusty on it. I hope to eventually get it better. Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich lavern()pursuinglife.com www.pursuinglife.com -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:31 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Rev. David C. Huff Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church 285 Main Street Lilburn, GA 30047 770-921-1220 Ext. 240 dhuff()firstbaptist.net -----Original Message----- From: Huff, David Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM To: 'Bible Memory List' Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Everyone: Good to see the list active again! I began memorizing large passages about 2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit into my life since then. My best review time is during the morning "shower and dress" routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of anything (except possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-). I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation have brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming spiritual discipline I have ever pursued! I lead a men's mentoring/discipleship ministry in our church, and we are using Scripture memory with some wonderful results!! The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5 -7), and it still remains my favorite. I've also worked my way through James and I John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with a number of shorter Psalms. Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge - Psalm 119. Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility -- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me to memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own. Some weeks I accomplish more than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to APPLY what I'm learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and disciplines -- me. It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!! I look forward to hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm 119:11. In Christ, David Rev. David C. Huff Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church 285 Main Street Lilburn, GA 30047 770-921-1220 Ext. 240 dhuff()firstbaptist.net -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:16 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Greetings, It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long. Now however, I would like to get things going again ... > If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with the words > "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top of the body of the > message. I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture. How is everybody doing? What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months? What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others? Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: dhuff()firstbaptist.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: dhbcgllc()bellsouth.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: BibleMem: RE: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List Hi, It was good to hear from you! How often do you review the Sermon on the Mount? I have been reviewing Matthew 5-7 about once a week, but I am still rusty on it. I hope to eventually get it better. Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich lavern()pursuinglife.com www.pursuinglife.com -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:31 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Rev. David C. Huff Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church 285 Main Street Lilburn, GA 30047 770-921-1220 Ext. 240 dhuff()firstbaptist.net -----Original Message----- From: Huff, David Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM To: 'Bible Memory List' Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Everyone: Good to see the list active again! I began memorizing large passages about 2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit into my life since then. My best review time is during the morning "shower and dress" routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of anything (except possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-). I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation have brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming spiritual discipline I have ever pursued! I lead a men's mentoring/discipleship ministry in our church, and we are using Scripture memory with some wonderful results!! The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5 -7), and it still remains my favorite. I've also worked my way through James and I John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with a number of shorter Psalms. Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge - Psalm 119. Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility -- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me to memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own. Some weeks I accomplish more than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to APPLY what I'm learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and disciplines -- me. It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!! I look forward to hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm 119:11. In Christ, David Rev. David C. Huff Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church 285 Main Street Lilburn, GA 30047 770-921-1220 Ext. 240 dhuff()firstbaptist.net -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:16 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Greetings, It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long. Now however, I would like to get things going again ... > If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with the words > "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top of the body of the > message. I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture. How is everybody doing? What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months? What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others? Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: dhuff()firstbaptist.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: BibleMem: Audio Bible Question From: Bible Memory List Hello!   Do you know of any audio Bible that has each verse (or several verses) on a separate track?   Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich lavern()pursuinglife.com www.pursuinglife.com Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: BibleMem: FW: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List -----Original Message----- From: Huff, David Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM To: 'Bible Memory List' Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Everyone: Good to see the list active again! I began memorizing large passages about 2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit into my life since then. My best review time is during the morning "shower and dress" routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of anything (except possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-). I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation have brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming spiritual discipline I have ever pursued! I lead a men's mentoring/discipleship ministry in our church, and we are using Scripture memory with some wonderful results!! The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5 -7), and it still remains my favorite. I've also worked my way through James and I John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with a number of shorter Psalms. Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge - Psalm 119. Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility -- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me to memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own. Some weeks I accomplish more than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to APPLY what I'm learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and disciplines -- me. It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!! I look forward to hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm 119:11. In Christ, David Rev. David C. Huff Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church 285 Main Street Lilburn, GA 30047 770-921-1220 Ext. 240 dhuff()firstbaptist.net -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:16 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Greetings, It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long. Now however, I would like to get things going again ... > If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with the words > "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top of the body of the > message. I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture. How is everybody doing? What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months? What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others? Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: dhuff()firstbaptist.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 2:32 PM Subject: BibleMem: Introduction From: Bible Memory List Boy, it's GREAT to see this board active again!! :) Let me reintroduce myself. My name is Beth. I've been memorizing the Word for quite a while, and as of late, have discovered Scripture Songs to help me. When memorizing chapters, I not only read it over and over, but listen to it on cd over and over. Hearing it really helps somehow. The Bible Version Question: I admire those of you have have picked a translation and only memorize out of that. Among other things, if the reference is someday forgotten, it makes it a lot easier to know *which* concordance to look in for the verse. :) Over the years I have memorized out of the KJV, the NKJV, the NIV, the NASB and the ESV. It makes my brain a Hines of sorts! This past year, I have used mainly the ESV and KJV. KJV - mostly in Psalms. There's something about memorizing the Psalms in the KJV. That is mostly for my own enjoyment and use. Most verses that can be used to witness I use the ESV for. The ESV is also helpful for chapters worth of text. After several verses, the KJ sentence structure usually trips up my memorization. The ESV is a conservative revision of the RSV - Came out in 2001. . It is strong, poetic and accurate. You can read about the translation philosophy etc here : http://www.gnpcb.org/home/esv I hope that that was my last "switch" I'll have, BUT it is truly God's Spirit that brings His Words to life, no matter what translation one memorizes out of. The greatest thing about memorizing to me has been how its helped my daily fellowship with God, and how He has used it to speak to me throughout the day, and reveal His truths. Ya'll have challenged me to step up my memorizations. I have enjoyed all your introductions and am so pleased to be on this list! in Him Beth Sender: bethmon()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: BibleMem: On the Decision of Version From: Bible Memory List Hi! How are you? As for which version to memorize, I do the NKJV. Sometimes I wish I had started out using NIV, because it's the most popular among Chritians I know, besides the KJV. I read in a couple of places that the main thing is to not try to memorize different passages from different versions. They said b/c you'll get used to the usual word orders, style and vocabulary one and then your brain will try to impose that on the other version and just wind up confusing yourself and making precision more difficult. I think that if you want to switch versions, now's the time, since you're starting up again. Personally, I think it's a good idea to use a version that is easily understood today. Being in more contemporary language doesn't mean being watered down. Think of people in the 17th and 18th centuries. For them, the KJV was contemporary, and controversial. It wasn't Latin, or the original Greek and Hebrew! That upset a lot of people. Some people today get upset about contemporary translations. It's the same old debate. If you're in conflict over this, or someone is telling you only the KJV is trustworthy, I definitely recommend a book called "The King James Only Controversy." It could help you clear things up. Much love in Christ! -Meg -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List Sent: Feb 17, 2005 2:31 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: which version? Hello, I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any messages until now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses memorized. However, with a full course load at University and my part-time job, I can no longer put in the same amount of time for memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to recalling those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3 verses a day until I memorize the book of Romans. What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find that if I memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved person for example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it leaves me to translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering if I should memorize from NKJV or even NASB. Glad to see this is up and running again! This means I have to start memorizing soon. -- Marcin Samiec http://marcin.samiec.info Sender: msamiec()telus.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: BibleMem: RE: which version? From: Bible Memory List Greetings! I am so glad to hear that you are memorizing Romans! I am doing the same and am in chapter 8 now. (You may read more about my Bible memory project on my site at www.pursuinglife.com). I hope to get finished with Romans around June 2005. I memorize in KJV, and I love that version. Yet I have questioned whether it's the best version to memorize. Maybe I should memorize from a version that's written in a style we can understand easier. I have a friend that prefers the New King James version, because it's better for modern readers yet based on the KJV. May God bless you all! I am so blessed to be on this list. It's great. Keep 'em coming! Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich www.pursuinglife.com -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:31 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: which version? Hello, I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any messages until now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses memorized. However, with a full course load at University and my part-time job, I can no longer put in the same amount of time for memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to recalling those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3 verses a day until I memorize the book of Romans. What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find that if I memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved person for example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it leaves me to translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering if I should memorize from NKJV or even NASB. Glad to see this is up and running again! This means I have to start memorizing soon. -- Marcin Samiec http://marcin.samiec.info Sender: msamiec()telus.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 4:57 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Audio Bible Question From: Bible Memory List Hello Lavern, I've often wondered the same thing. Wouldn't it be just great to have that? Unfortunately, I don't think anyone has had the time to cut audio bible's into verse tracks. It would take an extremely long amount of human processing time. I've always wanted to find something like that, so I could take all the verses I memorized scattered throughout the Bible and place them on CD. Plus, I doubt a CD player would be able to support anything like 100+ tracks on one CD. In Christ, Marcin Samiec http://marcin.samiec.info On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:27:50 -0500, Bible Memory List wrote: > Hello! > > > > Do you know of any audio Bible that has each verse (or several verses) > on a separate track? > > > > Sincerely, > > Lavern Gingerich > > lavern()pursuinglife.com > > www.pursuinglife.com > > Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > -- Marcin Samiec Sender: marcin.samiec()gmail.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: BibleMem: Re: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List Dear Rev. David,   I found it encouraging to read that you are memorizing the 119th Psalm.  I am working on that as well, though it seems to be going slowly.  I am taking a break from it until after Easter, as I am working on a different memorization project for the season.  How far have you made it?  Everytime I read this chapter I am amazed at what I see about how precious the Word of God is - how it has been given to use for our benefit, and how much of God Himself is revealed.  I am awed each time.   It was good to see that you are from Georgia.  I was born in Tenn., and surely wish that you could right with a southern drawl.  Since I moved to Missouri I have been teased a great deal about my drawl, but I really miss hearing it from others.  That seems rather odd in a way, Greek and Hebrew text, translated into formal english, which I speak with a southern drawl. Oh, well, God loves variety, He has made that obvious!   I will be praying for your completion of this project.  I really wish things were different in my life right now - I am unable to attend church, and have not been able to for several years because of family problems.  However, I believe God is using this time to teach me many things, including discipline in prayer and study of His word.  I pray that someday circumstances will change, that I may be able to again belong to a church and be active - I miss that more than I can say.  But until then, I have been forced to look to God alone for my discipleship.  It is scary at times, not that I do not trust that He can and does disciple me, but I fear I may be misunderstanding Him on occasion.   Anyway, I will be supporting you in prayer, and I am confident that God is going to bless your efforts.   "Proverbs 16:1 "The preparations of the heart belong to man, but the answer of the tongue is form the LORD." Denna Bible Memory List wrote: Rev. David C. Huff Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church 285 Main Street Lilburn, GA 30047 770-921-1220 Ext. 240 dhuff()firstbaptist.net -----Original Message----- From: Huff, David Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM To: 'Bible Memory List' Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Everyone: Good to see the list active again! I began memorizing large passages about 2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit into my life since then. My best review time is during the morning "shower and dress" routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of anything (except possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-). I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation have brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming spiritual discipline I have ever pursued! I lead a men's mentoring/discipleship ministry in our church, and we are using Scripture memory with some wonderful results!! The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5 -7), and it still remains my favorite. I've also worked my way through James and I John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with a number of shorter Psalms. Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge - Psalm 119. Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility -- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me to memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own. Some weeks I accomplish more than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to APPLY what I'm learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and disciplines -- me. It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!! I look forward to hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm 119:11. In Christ, David Rev. David C. Huff Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church 285 Main Street Lilburn, GA 30047 770-921-1220 Ext. 240 dhuff()firstbaptist.net -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:16 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Greetings, It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long. Now however, I would like to get things going again ... > If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with the words > "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top of the body of the > message. I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture. How is everybody doing? What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months? What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others? Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: dhuff()firstbaptist.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=29916/*http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250"Learn more. Sender: waudenna()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: BibleMem: RE: Re: Philippians From: Bible Memory List Sue: Congratulations on memorizing Philippians! That must be a blessing! Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich lavern()pursuinglife.com www.pursuinglife.com -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:31 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Re: Philippians Dear Tom, I just finished Philippians this week. It took me almost two years due to my lack of consistent study, but I believe I have it for life. One thing that is helpful is to absolutely love that book, which I do. I did some of the self tests in the Scripture Memory 3 program, old-fashioned study on paper, and I listen to it at least twice a day in my car. I suggest putting it on CD with lots of breaks so you can keep playing one section until you have it. I also recommend studying it on paper or computer before trying to learn by listening. Listening is a good practice and review, but not a good way for me to learn from scratch. May the Lord keep you excited about that precious book until it is part of your long-term memory (the advantage of taking forever to learn something is that you remember it longer). Sue in Virginia Sender: heysue()naxs.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 4:57 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: RE: which version? From: Bible Memory List Hello, I prayed it over and it looks like I'll stay with KJV. I've considered the NASB, LITV, and the NKJV. I've memorized the book of Jude in one week with the KJV when I was at Poland two summers ago, and I love the style of writing. BTW, I've chosen to take up Colossians before I tackle something like Romans. I just remembered it has 16 chapters -- looks a bit too tall for me to tackle right away. At the height of my memorization streak a while back, I would be able to memorize 12 verses in one day while working slow shifts in the fitting room at work. With prayer and training I plan to get myself to memorize that much again. Blessings, Marcin Samiec On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:27:51 -0500, Bible Memory List wrote: > Greetings! > > I am so glad to hear that you are memorizing Romans! I am doing the > same and am in chapter 8 now. (You may read more about my Bible memory > project on my site at www.pursuinglife.com). I hope to get finished > with Romans around June 2005. > > I memorize in KJV, and I love that version. Yet I have questioned > whether it's the best version to memorize. Maybe I should memorize > from a version that's written in a style we can understand easier. I > have a friend that prefers the New King James version, because it's > better for modern readers yet based on the KJV. > > May God bless you all! I am so blessed to be on this list. It's great. > Keep 'em coming! > > Sincerely, > Lavern Gingerich > www.pursuinglife.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:31 PM > To: biblememory()memoryverses.org > Subject: BibleMem: which version? > > Hello, > > I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any > messages until now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses > memorized. However, with a full course load at University and my > part-time job, I can no longer put in the same amount of time for > memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to recalling > those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3 > verses a day until I memorize the book of Romans. > > What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find > that if I memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved > person for > example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it > leaves me to translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering > if I should memorize from NKJV or even NASB. > > Glad to see this is up and running again! This means I have to start > memorizing soon. > > -- > Marcin Samiec > http://marcin.samiec.info > > Sender: msamiec()telus.net > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > -- Marcin Samiec Sender: marcin.samiec()gmail.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: BibleMem: Re: which version? From: Bible Memory List Dear Marcin, That is the very reason I began using only the NKJV for memory work.  I had memorized in various versions, and finally recognized the need to use just one - I could not always remember which version I memorized which verse from, which made review difficult.   It sounds as if you are already off to a wonderful start.  Keep on going in the LORD, and I am sure He will bless your efforts.   Denna Bible Memory List wrote: Hello, I must have signed up for this a long time ago. I havn't seen any messages until now. I'm 18 years old and have about 300 verses memorized. However, with a full course load at University and my part-time job, I can no longer put in the same amount of time for memorizing scripture and thus am very rusty when it comes to recalling those verses. I'm planning to start all over again and memorize 3 verses a day until I memorize the book of Romans. What do you guys think? I've been reading my KJV for years, but I find that if I memorize the scripture and tell it to someone (an unsaved person for example) the wording and grammar can totally throw it off, and it leaves me to translate it to "laymen" terms sometimes. I'm wondering if I should memorize from NKJV or even NASB. Glad to see this is up and running again! This means I have to start memorizing soon. -- Marcin Samiec http://marcin.samiec.info Sender: msamiec()telus.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ji bjabinaugural.html"Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Sender: waudenna()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 18, 2005 2:32 PM Subject: BibleMem: Sermon On The Mount Review From: Bible Memory List Hi Lavern! In my current review "system", which seems to work pretty well for me, I review the Sermon On The Mount every third day, along with a couple of other passages. As time goes by, that may decrease to about once a week or so, as I learn (hopefully :-) more Scripture. Like I mentioned, this was the 1st large passage I tried, so it's a favorite and especially dear to my heart. Since it's almost entirely the words of Jesus, it feels especially personal to me. By the way, I visited your website -- very nicely done!! David H. -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:28 AM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: RE: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Hi, It was good to hear from you! How often do you review the Sermon on the Mount? I have been reviewing Matthew 5-7 about once a week, but I am still rusty on it. I hope to eventually get it better. Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich lavern()pursuinglife.com www.pursuinglife.com -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:31 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Rev. David C. Huff Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church 285 Main Street Lilburn, GA 30047 770-921-1220 Ext. 240 dhuff()firstbaptist.net -----Original Message----- From: Huff, David Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM To: 'Bible Memory List' Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Everyone: Good to see the list active again! I began memorizing large passages about 2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit into my life since then. My best review time is during the morning "shower and dress" routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of anything (except possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-). I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation have brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming spiritual discipline I have ever pursued! I lead a men's mentoring/discipleship ministry in our church, and we are using Scripture memory with some wonderful results!! The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5 -7), and it still remains my favorite. I've also worked my way through James and I John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with a number of shorter Psalms. Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge - Psalm 119. Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility -- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me to memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own. Some weeks I accomplish more than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to APPLY what I'm learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and disciplines -- me. It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!! I look forward to hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm 119:11. In Christ, David Rev. David C. Huff Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church 285 Main Street Lilburn, GA 30047 770-921-1220 Ext. 240 dhuff()firstbaptist.net -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:16 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator Greetings, It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long. Now however, I would like to get things going again ... > If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with the words > "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top of the body of the > message. I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture. How is everybody doing? What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months? What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others? Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: dhuff()firstbaptist.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: dhbcgllc()bellsouth.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 19, 2005 5:35 PM Subject: BibleMem: anyone else tried this? From: Bible Memory List Hello, everyone! First of all, I'd like to say that it really touched my heart to hear your stories of others in your family starting Bible memory because God used your example. That is so cool. I hope I will be that example for someone someday and they'll say, "I can do this too." Anyhow, here's my idea- I know cassete players are like, old as fossils, but I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a passage onto tape to play it back for help in memorizing and review. I know I could probably do the same thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, and I might, but I'll have to get my husband's help for that. Never messed around with that before. Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea? I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, and I think I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review. Thanks, Meg ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 19, 2005 5:35 PM Subject: BibleMem: anyone else tried this? From: Bible Memory List Hello, everyone! First of all, I'd like to say that it really touched my heart to hear your stories of others in your family starting Bible memory because God used your example. That is so cool. I hope I will be that example for someone someday and they'll say, "I can do this too." Anyhow, here's my idea- I know cassete players are like, old as fossils, but I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a passage onto tape to play it back for help in memorizing and review. I know I could probably do the same thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, and I might, but I'll have to get my husband's help for that. Never messed around with that before. Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea? I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, and I think I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review. Thanks, Meg ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 20, 2005 11:31 AM Subject: BibleMem: Memlock From: Bible Memory List Hi. There are a lot of ways of recording verses on your computer. I use the program called "Total Recorder" and find that it works very well and have also found that playing it back in my own voice is helpful in memorizing and also in meditating on the scripture. I memorize in the NASB version and was not able to find any prerecorded verses and so I started recording my own. I am 53 years old and over the years started memorizing Scripture a number of times but always ended up quiting after awhile. Then 5 years ago I came across Memlok (www.memlok.com) and started using that program and found that for me it was the perfect way to keep track of passages and review them in a systematic manner. I find it difficult to memorize but over that 5 year period I have been able to memorize over 1000 verses and have hardly missed a day when I have not spent time in memorizing, meditating and reviewing. Praise God!! I am almost completed the whole program and when I am finished I am planning to enter all my verses into Supermemo and then carry on memorizing using Supermemo. As I have been reading all the posts in the past 2 weeks, there have been so many times I read all the questions various people have had, and have said to myself, "they need to look at memlok". So I encourage you all to go to the memlok website and look at the program and see if might be the program that God would have you use to memorize His Word. After you have completed the program you will have memorized a passage from every chapter in the New Testament and Proverbs and a passage from every book in the Old Testament which are divided into 48 different topics with approximately 12 verses in each topic. God bless you all. Harold ,but I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a > passage onto tape to > play it back for help in memorizing and review. I know I could > probably do the same thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, > and I might, but I'll have to get my husband's help for that. Never > messed around with that before. > Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea? > I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, > and I think I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review. > Thanks, > Meg > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > > > Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > Sender: justdoitcr()shaw.ca ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 20, 2005 11:31 AM Subject: BibleMem: Memlock From: Bible Memory List Hi. There are a lot of ways of recording verses on your computer. I use the program called "Total Recorder" and find that it works very well and have also found that playing it back in my own voice is helpful in memorizing and also in meditating on the scripture. I memorize in the NASB version and was not able to find any prerecorded verses and so I started recording my own. I am 53 years old and over the years started memorizing Scripture a number of times but always ended up quiting after awhile. Then 5 years ago I came across Memlok (www.memlok.com) and started using that program and found that for me it was the perfect way to keep track of passages and review them in a systematic manner. I find it difficult to memorize but over that 5 year period I have been able to memorize over 1000 verses and have hardly missed a day when I have not spent time in memorizing, meditating and reviewing. Praise God!! I am almost completed the whole program and when I am finished I am planning to enter all my verses into Supermemo and then carry on memorizing using Supermemo. As I have been reading all the posts in the past 2 weeks, there have been so many times I read all the questions various people have had, and have said to myself, "they need to look at memlok". So I encourage you all to go to the memlok website and look at the program and see if might be the program that God would have you use to memorize His Word. After you have completed the program you will have memorized a passage from every chapter in the New Testament and Proverbs and a passage from every book in the Old Testament which are divided into 48 different topics with approximately 12 verses in each topic. God bless you all. Harold ,but I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a > passage onto tape to > play it back for help in memorizing and review. I know I could > probably do the same thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, > and I might, but I'll have to get my husband's help for that. Never > messed around with that before. > Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea? > I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, > and I think I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review. > Thanks, > Meg > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > > > Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > Sender: justdoitcr()shaw.ca ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 21, 2005 11:05 PM Subject: BibleMem: cd's mp3's recording etc. From: Bible Memory List I gotta jump in here... I've been a member of this thing forever but never said much and quite frankly put memorizing scriptures on the back burner... Could make it a long boring story but suffice it to say that the Lord took me through a period of depression (sorry if I sound like a jerk but I thought depression was for women). A VERY STRONG DEPRESSION that lasted until the Lord got through to my thick skull. He showed me that I needed to get in the word, that I needed a bunch of bibles everywhere I sit down so that when I get a few minutes there is always a bible nearby. It's a pretty strong testimony in all the detail but anyway, the depression lifted and He had me start memorizing. Since I'm a member of a hard rock Christian band (we're waiting for the singer that God has in mind) I have lotsa recording equipment. I started recording myself speaking memory verses (NASB) and then converting the wav files to mp3's. I ask for a car stereo for my birthday from my lovely wife that would play mp3's as you can fit the entire bible on just a few cd's. I group the verses in bunches of three and the sony player enables me to repeat track or repeat album (which is just a directory that the mp3's are grouped in). This gives me complete control over the structure of the cd. Then after I learn 5 groups of 3 I place all those in a folder for review and keep building the number of scriptures on the cd. It's not all perfected yet, but it's working. In only about 2 months I've memorized 30 verses (actually 38 since some of the verses are more than a single verse; for example Psalms 1:1-3 I generally count as one verse). When you do it yourself you can pick the scriptures you want, you can group them the way you want and memorize easily as you drive to work and back. I wouldn't mind helping some of you but would be concerned about the copyright issue with the NASB... Anyway just thought I'd throw some info into the mix and if you have any questions I'll try to answer them. Not to bore you but when I got saved (1989) I found a little business card holder like thing at a gas station (it was laying on the blacktop) while filling up that had a bunch of bible verses in it (I was so young in the Lord that I didn't even know what the "NASB" printed on them meant!). I've since changed jobs twice moved three times (once to a different state) and got married. That little verse holder (it's only about 2 x 3 inches) would disappear then re-appear later and right now I'm looking at it. When I decided to memorize I decided on the NASB and as I looked through the little verse holder I noticed it was NASB .... God is awesome and will continue to work in your life to bring you to the next level as long as you let Him... sorry I'm so long winded, but it seems like a lot of "coincidences" relating to me memorizing, me recording, the stream from your group suddenly showing up in my email again.... some of what I'm saying is valuable to someone out there... I'm a head engineer, and a system administrator plus in my spare time I'm trying to make a bible chart that shows the structure of entire bible in an in depth way, and write songs... I'm really spread too thin so I don't read all the post from this group. I don't know how to help without getting completely overwhelmed. I just know God had me throw this info out there for somebody. Also, I converted my "Red Jeffries" cd's (I think there were about 60) into mp3's and now the entire bible is on 7 cd's (that was a severe pain in the butt). Also, you can buy one that has the whole bible on two cd's by Steve Stephens. Very reasonably priced (I wish I knew about before I converted all the "Red Jeffries" wav files). If you can afford an mp3 player for your car it's worth it. In Him, Rusty __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp Sender: RJIVEY77()netscape.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 21, 2005 4:17 PM Subject: BibleMem: MemLok Bible Memory System From: Bible Memory List Steve Simpson (moderator) asked me to drop in a few words about MemLok. I'm Drake Mariani...my testimony is at http://www.memlok.com/testimony.html ) and thank you Harold for bringing up MemLok to the group. MemLok is at http://www.memlok.com I explain how God called me to this ministry in 1989 while church planting http://www.memlok.com/history.html Application is the key (meditation on God's Word that results in life change which can only be done by growing closer to the living God) whether one does passage or topics. I personally believe they are like two wings of an airplane. Value in both. "Don't throw out the baby with the bath water" someone said. My focus is on the Topical approach (Again, God's call). My experience with thousands of users is that the average Christian CAN do individual verses for a lifetime if there are these factors: 1) meeting a need 2) with application 3) a long-term review system that doesn't take a long time. People can't seem to "get started". But, if I say "The wages"...they finish the entire verse! So, MemLok has 48 topics of about 12 verses each with a visual cue (Train for Train up; Mad bee for "Be Angry" etc)...go to http://www.memlok.com/pc2printout.html But, hit the Site Map across the top of any page for much more detail. You can see the screens of this software (prints business cards and coloring pages) at http://www.memlok.com/browse-scripture-memory-topics.html Available in NIV, NASB, KJV and NKJ If you are pinched financially, see http://www.memlok.com/30days.html And, I've been known to give it away in many circumstances, though it has been Gina and my income since 1989. Feel free to call me anytime at home here in CA 800-373-1947. God is Good! By the way, should you learn/apply simply one verse a week for 10 years using MemLok, your review pile would still be 5 minutes a day and you would be keeping up with all of them. One from every OT book, (tons of Psalms), and at least one from every chapter of Proverbs and the NT. Hey, get a free copy of the 100 Descriptions of God (a neat daily Praise page), normally $2.95 while you're out there at MemLok. Sender: memlok()memlok.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 21, 2005 4:17 PM Subject: BibleMem: Memory From: Bible Memory List I am certainly very excited about joining the group.  I am a student of Christian Ministries.  Currently I am an undergraduate student and hope to be starting a graduates program soon.    I would like to be able to memorize scripture.  I read so many books and of the course the Bible, but I can not say that I have even 50 scriptures memorized.  Isn't that awful?   So I am hoping through this program and encouragement from all of you that I can definitely improve in this area of my Christian walk.    Thanks for your support   La Tanya Sender: latanyahayward()comcast.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 21, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: anyone else tried this? From: Bible Memory List Meg, I've done quite a bit of recording with a mic hooked up to the computer and have also used a portable cassette player. In the end neither was terribly useful as I'm not an auditory learner. But give it a shot. My philosophy for Scripture memory is to do whatever works for you! In Christ, David Baldwin david()word2life.com www.word2life.com -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 4:35 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: anyone else tried this? Hello, everyone! First of all, I'd like to say that it really touched my heart to hear your stories of others in your family starting Bible memory because God used your example. That is so cool. I hope I will be that example for someone someday and they'll say, "I can do this too." Anyhow, here's my idea- I know cassete players are like, old as fossils, but I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a passage onto tape to play it back for help in memorizing and review. I know I could probably do the same thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, and I might, but I'll have to get my husband's help for that. Never messed around with that before. Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea? I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, and I think I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review. Thanks, Meg ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 21, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: anyone else tried this? From: Bible Memory List Yes that is a great idea.  I did that with cassette tapes as well.   It worked great.   What I did was record shorter sections of scripture, just a few verses at a time, then record them over and over again on the same tape.  You only have to record them once on a tape then keep playing and rewinding and record it onto another tape if you have a machine with a dual tape deck.  You can then listen to it while you drive back and forth to work or while you are doing household chores.  I haven't tried it with cd's yet but maybe someone else has. Bible Memory List wrote: Hello, everyone! First of all, I'd like to say that it really touched my heart to hear your stories of others in your family starting Bible memory because God used your example. That is so cool. I hope I will be that example for someone someday and they'll say, "I can do this too." Anyhow, here's my idea- I know cassete players are like, old as fossils, but I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a passage onto tape to play it back for help in memorizing and review. I know I could probably do the same thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, and I might, but I'll have to get my husband's help for that. Never messed around with that before. Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea? I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, and I think I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review. Thanks, Meg ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page – HYPERLINK "http://my.yahoo.com"Try My Yahoo! Sender: diligentbiblestudent()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 21, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Audio Bible Question From: Bible Memory List Lavern, the only tapes i have are subliminal of linda fehl reading proverbs and psalms with her soothing southern voice, with ocean waves in the background. she use to have a ministry called rapha ranch ministries, inc in de funiak springs florida. ... what good tapes to have..i bought all of hers. here is her personal word "my life has changed as i read 181 chapters of the bible in just four days. the word of God entered into me in a new dimension as i saw its consistency and came face to face with the whole counsel of God as never before. this same effect can be yours as you play this powerful set of tapes throughout the day; even throughout the night. there is another cd i know of thru kenneth hagin ministries called healing scriptures you might want to check into...look into rhema bible correspondence course and ask about it...sincerely, David Smalley -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List Sent: Feb 18, 2005 11:27 AM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Audio Bible Question Hello!   Do you know of any audio Bible that has each verse (or several verses) on a separate track?   Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich lavern()pursuinglife.com www.pursuinglife.com Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject lovecryhstal ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: davhardsoldier()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 21, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: Memlock From: Bible Memory List Where can you get total recorder, super memo and memlock? Don -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 9:31 AM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Memlock Hi. There are a lot of ways of recording verses on your computer. I use the program called "Total Recorder" and find that it works very well and have also found that playing it back in my own voice is helpful in memorizing and also in meditating on the scripture. I memorize in the NASB version and was not able to find any prerecorded verses and so I started recording my own. I am 53 years old and over the years started memorizing Scripture a number of times but always ended up quiting after awhile. Then 5 years ago I came across Memlok (www.memlok.com) and started using that program and found that for me it was the perfect way to keep track of passages and review them in a systematic manner. I find it difficult to memorize but over that 5 year period I have been able to memorize over 1000 verses and have hardly missed a day when I have not spent time in memorizing, meditating and reviewing. Praise God!! I am almost completed the whole program and when I am finished I am planning to enter all my verses into Supermemo and then carry on memorizing using Supermemo. As I have been reading all the posts in the past 2 weeks, there have been so many times I read all the questions various people have had, and have said to myself, "they need to look at memlok". So I encourage you all to go to the memlok website and look at the program and see if might be the program that God would have you use to memorize His Word. After you have completed the program you will have memorized a passage from every chapter in the New Testament and Proverbs and a passage from every book in the Old Testament which are divided into 48 different topics with approximately 12 verses in each topic. God bless you all. Harold ,but I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a > passage onto tape to > play it back for help in memorizing and review. I know I could > probably do the same thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, > and I might, but I'll have to get my husband's help for that. Never > messed around with that before. > Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea? > I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, > and I think I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review. > Thanks, > Meg > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > > > Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > Sender: justdoitcr()shaw.ca ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: dmyers()rmci.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 21, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List Hello everyone Some months ago I came across a book by Dallas Willard called Renovation of the Heart. It has certainly been a transformational book for me and I would like to share just one short passage about Bible memorization from it with this list ... "The most obvious thing we can do is to draw certain key portions of Scripture into our minds and make them a part of the permanent fixtures of our thought. This is the primary discipline for the thought life. We need to know them like the back of our hand, and a good way to do that is to memorize them and then constantly turn them over in our minds as we go through the events and circumstances of our life (Joshua 1:8; Psalm 1). The desired effect will not be realized by focusing on isolated verses, but will certainly come as we ingest passages, such as Romans 5:1-8 or 8:1-15, 1 Corinthians 13, or Colossians 3:1-17. When you take these into your mind, your mind will become filled with the light of God himself. And light shines into darkness and darkness loses. When the light comes into a room, we do not have to say, "Now what are we going to do about the darkness?" It's gone! You say, "I can't memorize like that." I assure you, you certainly can. God made your mind for it and he will help you. He really wants you to do this. Of course that will be an integral part of the other changes that will permeate your life as a whole. As you choose to give your time and energy to, and plan your life around, the renovation of your mind, it will happen.' But you must choose to do it and learn how-just like learning to program and live with your VCR. Then you will know by experience that the mind of the Spirit is life and peace, and in all the deflections of life your mind will automatically re-center on God as the needle of the compass returns to the north." I cannot begin to match the memorization achievements of some members of this list - I am truly astounded at what I have been reading in some of the posts over the last few days - but I now have got Psalm 1, Psalm 23, Romans 5.1-8, 1 Corinthians 13, Colossians 3.1-7, Matthew 5.13-20, 2 Peter 1.2-11, and Isaiah 40.27-31 into my head and heart ... and what a blessing and source of nourishment that is. Like others on the list, I use time in the car to review, but my main learning/reviewing time is as soon as I get up on a morning and have my first two cups of tea! By the way, unlike most of you it seems, I live in England - in the north, in Bradford, the home of Smith Wigglesworth! Blessings Neil Sender: neil()wincy.co.uk ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 21, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: Sermon On The Mount Review From: Bible Memory List I spend no more than 3 minutes a week reviewing the Sermon on the Mount.  I can quote any portion of the Sermon on the Mount with 99% accuracy.   I hope the above statement has raised your interest because if you correctly structure your review program you can do the same.   I utilize the principal of spaced repetitions.  Here's how it works:  I break down a passage I want to memorize in to numerous small pieces.  For instance I might break down the first beatitude like this:   ... poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are the ..., for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are the poor in spirit, ... the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the ....   Although I use software to accomplish this (Supermemo) you could certainly just use note cards.  In the beginning I review these items with very short repetitions, in other words I review them everyday.  I test myself to make sure I can mentally fill in the missing words. As time goes on I review the less frequently, perhaps once a week and then perhaps once a month.   Let's say that after a period of several months the last clause written above comes up in my review process and I miss it.  Perhaps I say "the kingdom of GOD" instead of "the kingdom HEAVEN".  What do I do?  I restart the process of spaced repetitions ONLY ON THE PORTION I MISSED.  There's no need for me to repeat the other three clauses listed above as I didn't miss those.   The process of spaced repetitions keeps my review process very efficient and insures that all the work on I do on Scripture memory will be retained for life.   David Baldwin HYPERLINK "mailto:david()word2life.com"david()word2life.com HYPERLINK "http://www.word2life.com/"www.word2life.com           -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 1:32 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Sermon On The Mount Review   Hi Lavern!   In my current review "system", which seems to work pretty well for me, I review the Sermon On The Mount every third day, along with a couple of other passages.  As time goes by, that may decrease to about once a week or so, as I learn (hopefully :-) more Scripture.  Like I mentioned, this was the 1st large passage I tried, so it's a favorite and especially dear to my heart. Since it's almost entirely the words of Jesus, it feels especially personal to me.   By the way, I visited your website -- very nicely done!!   David H.   -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:28 AM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: RE: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator     Hi,   It was good to hear from you!   How often do you review the Sermon on the Mount? I have been reviewing Matthew 5-7 about once a week, but I am still rusty on it. I hope to eventually get it better.   Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich lavern()pursuinglife.com www.pursuinglife.com       -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:31 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator       Rev. David C. Huff Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church 285 Main Street Lilburn, GA  30047 770-921-1220 Ext. 240 dhuff()firstbaptist.net     -----Original Message----- From: Huff, David Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM To: 'Bible Memory List' Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator   Everyone:   Good to see the list active again!  I began memorizing large passages about 2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit into my life since then.  My best review time is during the morning "shower and dress" routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of anything (except possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-).   I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation have brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming spiritual discipline I have ever pursued!  I lead a men's mentoring/discipleship ministry in our church, and we are using Scripture memory with some wonderful results!!   The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5 -7), and it still remains my favorite.  I've also worked my way through James and I John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with a number of shorter Psalms.  Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge - Psalm 119.   Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility -- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me to memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own.  Some weeks I accomplish more than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to APPLY what I'm learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and disciplines -- me.   It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!!  I look forward to hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm 119:11.   In Christ, David   Rev. David C. Huff Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church 285 Main Street Lilburn, GA  30047 770-921-1220 Ext. 240 dhuff()firstbaptist.net     -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:16 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator   Greetings,   It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List.  During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work.  (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.   Now however, I would like to get things going again ...   >  If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with  the words > "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top  of the body of the > message.   I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture.   How is everybody doing?   What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?   What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others?     Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator   ==========================================================================   To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject     Sender: dhuff()firstbaptist.net   ==========================================================================   To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject     Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com   ==========================================================================   To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject         Sender: dhbcgllc()bellsouth.net   ==========================================================================   To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 21, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: anyone else tried this? From: Bible Memory List Meg,   I have known people to do just that with great success.  They usually leave a space for their own recitation of the verse between verses, and many say that it helps them tremendously.   I am wondering if anyone can give me hints that are not based on the audial, though.  I am hearing impaired, so audio bibiles, cd's, cassettes, etc. do not help me.  I even tried listening to the 119 Psalm on the net today (one of you sent the site) but cannot hear it well enough to understand the words.  However, I really need something other than just flash cards - I spend close to 20 hours a week on the road right now, and would love to be able to spend it in learning and review, yet have to be able to keep my eye on the road - any suggestions?????  Anyone?????   Thanks, Denna Bible Memory List wrote: Hello, everyone! First of all, I'd like to say that it really touched my heart to hear your stories of others in your family starting Bible memory because God used your example. That is so cool. I hope I will be that example for someone someday and they'll say, "I can do this too." Anyhow, here's my idea- I know cassete players are like, old as fossils, but I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a passage onto tape to play it back for help in memorizing and review. I know I could probably do the same thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, and I might, but I'll have to get my husband's help for that. Never messed around with that before. Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea? I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, and I think I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review. Thanks, Meg ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ji bjabinaugural.html"Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Sender: waudenna()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 21, 2005 11:05 PM Subject: BibleMem: cd's mp3's recording etc. From: Bible Memory List I gotta jump in here... I've been a member of this thing forever but never said much and quite frankly put memorizing scriptures on the back burner... Could make it a long boring story but suffice it to say that the Lord took me through a period of depression (sorry if I sound like a jerk but I thought depression was for women). A VERY STRONG DEPRESSION that lasted until the Lord got through to my thick skull. He showed me that I needed to get in the word, that I needed a bunch of bibles everywhere I sit down so that when I get a few minutes there is always a bible nearby. It's a pretty strong testimony in all the detail but anyway, the depression lifted and He had me start memorizing. Since I'm a member of a hard rock Christian band (we're waiting for the singer that God has in mind) I have lotsa recording equipment. I started recording myself speaking memory verses (NASB) and then converting the wav files to mp3's. I ask for a car stereo for my birthday from my lovely wife that would play mp3's as you can fit the entire bible on just a few cd's. I group the verses in bunches of three and the sony player enables me to repeat track or repeat album (which is just a directory that the mp3's are grouped in). This gives me complete control over the structure of the cd. Then after I learn 5 groups of 3 I place all those in a folder for review and keep building the number of scriptures on the cd. It's not all perfected yet, but it's working. In only about 2 months I've memorized 30 verses (actually 38 since some of the verses are more than a single verse; for example Psalms 1:1-3 I generally count as one verse). When you do it yourself you can pick the scriptures you want, you can group them the way you want and memorize easily as you drive to work and back. I wouldn't mind helping some of you but would be concerned about the copyright issue with the NASB... Anyway just thought I'd throw some info into the mix and if you have any questions I'll try to answer them. Not to bore you but when I got saved (1989) I found a little business card holder like thing at a gas station (it was laying on the blacktop) while filling up that had a bunch of bible verses in it (I was so young in the Lord that I didn't even know what the "NASB" printed on them meant!). I've since changed jobs twice moved three times (once to a different state) and got married. That little verse holder (it's only about 2 x 3 inches) would disappear then re-appear later and right now I'm looking at it. When I decided to memorize I decided on the NASB and as I looked through the little verse holder I noticed it was NASB .... God is awesome and will continue to work in your life to bring you to the next level as long as you let Him... sorry I'm so long winded, but it seems like a lot of "coincidences" relating to me memorizing, me recording, the stream from your group suddenly showing up in my email again.... some of what I'm saying is valuable to someone out there... I'm a head engineer, and a system administrator plus in my spare time I'm trying to make a bible chart that shows the structure of entire bible in an in depth way, and write songs... I'm really spread too thin so I don't read all the post from this group. I don't know how to help without getting completely overwhelmed. I just know God had me throw this info out there for somebody. Also, I converted my "Red Jeffries" cd's (I think there were about 60) into mp3's and now the entire bible is on 7 cd's (that was a severe pain in the butt). Also, you can buy one that has the whole bible on two cd's by Steve Stephens. Very reasonably priced (I wish I knew about before I converted all the "Red Jeffries" wav files). If you can afford an mp3 player for your car it's worth it. In Him, Rusty __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp Sender: RJIVEY77()netscape.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 21, 2005 4:17 PM Subject: BibleMem: MemLok Bible Memory System From: Bible Memory List Steve Simpson (moderator) asked me to drop in a few words about MemLok. I'm Drake Mariani...my testimony is at http://www.memlok.com/testimony.html ) and thank you Harold for bringing up MemLok to the group. MemLok is at http://www.memlok.com I explain how God called me to this ministry in 1989 while church planting http://www.memlok.com/history.html Application is the key (meditation on God's Word that results in life change which can only be done by growing closer to the living God) whether one does passage or topics. I personally believe they are like two wings of an airplane. Value in both. "Don't throw out the baby with the bath water" someone said. My focus is on the Topical approach (Again, God's call). My experience with thousands of users is that the average Christian CAN do individual verses for a lifetime if there are these factors: 1) meeting a need 2) with application 3) a long-term review system that doesn't take a long time. People can't seem to "get started". But, if I say "The wages"...they finish the entire verse! So, MemLok has 48 topics of about 12 verses each with a visual cue (Train for Train up; Mad bee for "Be Angry" etc)...go to http://www.memlok.com/pc2printout.html But, hit the Site Map across the top of any page for much more detail. You can see the screens of this software (prints business cards and coloring pages) at http://www.memlok.com/browse-scripture-memory-topics.html Available in NIV, NASB, KJV and NKJ If you are pinched financially, see http://www.memlok.com/30days.html And, I've been known to give it away in many circumstances, though it has been Gina and my income since 1989. Feel free to call me anytime at home here in CA 800-373-1947. God is Good! By the way, should you learn/apply simply one verse a week for 10 years using MemLok, your review pile would still be 5 minutes a day and you would be keeping up with all of them. One from every OT book, (tons of Psalms), and at least one from every chapter of Proverbs and the NT. Hey, get a free copy of the 100 Descriptions of God (a neat daily Praise page), normally $2.95 while you're out there at MemLok. Sender: memlok()memlok.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 21, 2005 4:17 PM Subject: BibleMem: Memory From: Bible Memory List I am certainly very excited about joining the group.  I am a student of Christian Ministries.  Currently I am an undergraduate student and hope to be starting a graduates program soon.    I would like to be able to memorize scripture.  I read so many books and of the course the Bible, but I can not say that I have even 50 scriptures memorized.  Isn't that awful?   So I am hoping through this program and encouragement from all of you that I can definitely improve in this area of my Christian walk.    Thanks for your support   La Tanya Sender: latanyahayward()comcast.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 21, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: anyone else tried this? From: Bible Memory List Meg, I've done quite a bit of recording with a mic hooked up to the computer and have also used a portable cassette player. In the end neither was terribly useful as I'm not an auditory learner. But give it a shot. My philosophy for Scripture memory is to do whatever works for you! In Christ, David Baldwin david()word2life.com www.word2life.com -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 4:35 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: anyone else tried this? Hello, everyone! First of all, I'd like to say that it really touched my heart to hear your stories of others in your family starting Bible memory because God used your example. That is so cool. I hope I will be that example for someone someday and they'll say, "I can do this too." Anyhow, here's my idea- I know cassete players are like, old as fossils, but I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a passage onto tape to play it back for help in memorizing and review. I know I could probably do the same thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, and I might, but I'll have to get my husband's help for that. Never messed around with that before. Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea? I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, and I think I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review. Thanks, Meg ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 21, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: anyone else tried this? From: Bible Memory List Yes that is a great idea.  I did that with cassette tapes as well.   It worked great.   What I did was record shorter sections of scripture, just a few verses at a time, then record them over and over again on the same tape.  You only have to record them once on a tape then keep playing and rewinding and record it onto another tape if you have a machine with a dual tape deck.  You can then listen to it while you drive back and forth to work or while you are doing household chores.  I haven't tried it with cd's yet but maybe someone else has. Bible Memory List wrote: Hello, everyone! First of all, I'd like to say that it really touched my heart to hear your stories of others in your family starting Bible memory because God used your example. That is so cool. I hope I will be that example for someone someday and they'll say, "I can do this too." Anyhow, here's my idea- I know cassete players are like, old as fossils, but I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a passage onto tape to play it back for help in memorizing and review. I know I could probably do the same thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, and I might, but I'll have to get my husband's help for that. Never messed around with that before. Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea? I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, and I think I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review. Thanks, Meg ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page – HYPERLINK "http://my.yahoo.com"Try My Yahoo! Sender: diligentbiblestudent()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 21, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Audio Bible Question From: Bible Memory List Lavern, the only tapes i have are subliminal of linda fehl reading proverbs and psalms with her soothing southern voice, with ocean waves in the background. she use to have a ministry called rapha ranch ministries, inc in de funiak springs florida. ... what good tapes to have..i bought all of hers. here is her personal word "my life has changed as i read 181 chapters of the bible in just four days. the word of God entered into me in a new dimension as i saw its consistency and came face to face with the whole counsel of God as never before. this same effect can be yours as you play this powerful set of tapes throughout the day; even throughout the night. there is another cd i know of thru kenneth hagin ministries called healing scriptures you might want to check into...look into rhema bible correspondence course and ask about it...sincerely, David Smalley -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List Sent: Feb 18, 2005 11:27 AM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Audio Bible Question Hello!   Do you know of any audio Bible that has each verse (or several verses) on a separate track?   Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich lavern()pursuinglife.com www.pursuinglife.com Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject lovecryhstal ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: davhardsoldier()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 21, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: Memlock From: Bible Memory List Where can you get total recorder, super memo and memlock? Don -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 9:31 AM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Memlock Hi. There are a lot of ways of recording verses on your computer. I use the program called "Total Recorder" and find that it works very well and have also found that playing it back in my own voice is helpful in memorizing and also in meditating on the scripture. I memorize in the NASB version and was not able to find any prerecorded verses and so I started recording my own. I am 53 years old and over the years started memorizing Scripture a number of times but always ended up quiting after awhile. Then 5 years ago I came across Memlok (www.memlok.com) and started using that program and found that for me it was the perfect way to keep track of passages and review them in a systematic manner. I find it difficult to memorize but over that 5 year period I have been able to memorize over 1000 verses and have hardly missed a day when I have not spent time in memorizing, meditating and reviewing. Praise God!! I am almost completed the whole program and when I am finished I am planning to enter all my verses into Supermemo and then carry on memorizing using Supermemo. As I have been reading all the posts in the past 2 weeks, there have been so many times I read all the questions various people have had, and have said to myself, "they need to look at memlok". So I encourage you all to go to the memlok website and look at the program and see if might be the program that God would have you use to memorize His Word. After you have completed the program you will have memorized a passage from every chapter in the New Testament and Proverbs and a passage from every book in the Old Testament which are divided into 48 different topics with approximately 12 verses in each topic. God bless you all. Harold ,but I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a > passage onto tape to > play it back for help in memorizing and review. I know I could > probably do the same thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, > and I might, but I'll have to get my husband's help for that. Never > messed around with that before. > Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea? > I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, > and I think I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review. > Thanks, > Meg > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > > > Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > Sender: justdoitcr()shaw.ca ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: dmyers()rmci.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 21, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List Hello everyone Some months ago I came across a book by Dallas Willard called Renovation of the Heart. It has certainly been a transformational book for me and I would like to share just one short passage about Bible memorization from it with this list ... "The most obvious thing we can do is to draw certain key portions of Scripture into our minds and make them a part of the permanent fixtures of our thought. This is the primary discipline for the thought life. We need to know them like the back of our hand, and a good way to do that is to memorize them and then constantly turn them over in our minds as we go through the events and circumstances of our life (Joshua 1:8; Psalm 1). The desired effect will not be realized by focusing on isolated verses, but will certainly come as we ingest passages, such as Romans 5:1-8 or 8:1-15, 1 Corinthians 13, or Colossians 3:1-17. When you take these into your mind, your mind will become filled with the light of God himself. And light shines into darkness and darkness loses. When the light comes into a room, we do not have to say, "Now what are we going to do about the darkness?" It's gone! You say, "I can't memorize like that." I assure you, you certainly can. God made your mind for it and he will help you. He really wants you to do this. Of course that will be an integral part of the other changes that will permeate your life as a whole. As you choose to give your time and energy to, and plan your life around, the renovation of your mind, it will happen.' But you must choose to do it and learn how-just like learning to program and live with your VCR. Then you will know by experience that the mind of the Spirit is life and peace, and in all the deflections of life your mind will automatically re-center on God as the needle of the compass returns to the north." I cannot begin to match the memorization achievements of some members of this list - I am truly astounded at what I have been reading in some of the posts over the last few days - but I now have got Psalm 1, Psalm 23, Romans 5.1-8, 1 Corinthians 13, Colossians 3.1-7, Matthew 5.13-20, 2 Peter 1.2-11, and Isaiah 40.27-31 into my head and heart ... and what a blessing and source of nourishment that is. Like others on the list, I use time in the car to review, but my main learning/reviewing time is as soon as I get up on a morning and have my first two cups of tea! By the way, unlike most of you it seems, I live in England - in the north, in Bradford, the home of Smith Wigglesworth! Blessings Neil Sender: neil()wincy.co.uk ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 21, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: Sermon On The Mount Review From: Bible Memory List I spend no more than 3 minutes a week reviewing the Sermon on the Mount.  I can quote any portion of the Sermon on the Mount with 99% accuracy.   I hope the above statement has raised your interest because if you correctly structure your review program you can do the same.   I utilize the principal of spaced repetitions.  Here's how it works:  I break down a passage I want to memorize in to numerous small pieces.  For instance I might break down the first beatitude like this:   ... poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are the ..., for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are the poor in spirit, ... the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the ....   Although I use software to accomplish this (Supermemo) you could certainly just use note cards.  In the beginning I review these items with very short repetitions, in other words I review them everyday.  I test myself to make sure I can mentally fill in the missing words. As time goes on I review the less frequently, perhaps once a week and then perhaps once a month.   Let's say that after a period of several months the last clause written above comes up in my review process and I miss it.  Perhaps I say "the kingdom of GOD" instead of "the kingdom HEAVEN".  What do I do?  I restart the process of spaced repetitions ONLY ON THE PORTION I MISSED.  There's no need for me to repeat the other three clauses listed above as I didn't miss those.   The process of spaced repetitions keeps my review process very efficient and insures that all the work on I do on Scripture memory will be retained for life.   David Baldwin HYPERLINK "mailto:david()word2life.com"david()word2life.com HYPERLINK "http://www.word2life.com/"www.word2life.com           -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 1:32 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Sermon On The Mount Review   Hi Lavern!   In my current review "system", which seems to work pretty well for me, I review the Sermon On The Mount every third day, along with a couple of other passages.  As time goes by, that may decrease to about once a week or so, as I learn (hopefully :-) more Scripture.  Like I mentioned, this was the 1st large passage I tried, so it's a favorite and especially dear to my heart. Since it's almost entirely the words of Jesus, it feels especially personal to me.   By the way, I visited your website -- very nicely done!!   David H.   -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:28 AM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: RE: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator     Hi,   It was good to hear from you!   How often do you review the Sermon on the Mount? I have been reviewing Matthew 5-7 about once a week, but I am still rusty on it. I hope to eventually get it better.   Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich lavern()pursuinglife.com www.pursuinglife.com       -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:31 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: RE: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator       Rev. David C. Huff Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church 285 Main Street Lilburn, GA  30047 770-921-1220 Ext. 240 dhuff()firstbaptist.net     -----Original Message----- From: Huff, David Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:55 PM To: 'Bible Memory List' Subject: RE: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator   Everyone:   Good to see the list active again!  I began memorizing large passages about 2 1/2 years ago, and the Lord has given me the grace to build this habit into my life since then.  My best review time is during the morning "shower and dress" routine -- a time when my mind was typically not on much of anything (except possibly worrying about the coming events of the day :-).   I can't say enough about the benefits that Scripture memory and meditation have brought into my life - it has been the single most transforming spiritual discipline I have ever pursued!  I lead a men's mentoring/discipleship ministry in our church, and we are using Scripture memory with some wonderful results!!   The first large passage I tackled was the Sermon On The Mount (Matthew 5 -7), and it still remains my favorite.  I've also worked my way through James and I John (which, for some reason, was especially tough), along with a number of shorter Psalms.  Right now, I'm working on a huge challenge - Psalm 119.   Please know that I share this as an encouragement, along with much humility -- it is totally the work and grace of God that has motivated and enabled me to memorize, certainly no merit or talent of my own.  Some weeks I accomplish more than others -- and, of course, the point of it all is to APPLY what I'm learning, which is where the Lord really teaches -- and disciplines -- me.   It's so encouraging to hear the reports from this list!!  I look forward to hearing more ... may God bless our efforts as we strive to obey Psalm 119:11.   In Christ, David   Rev. David C. Huff Associate Pastor - Music and Adult Education First Baptist Church 285 Main Street Lilburn, GA  30047 770-921-1220 Ext. 240 dhuff()firstbaptist.net     -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:16 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator   Greetings,   It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List.  During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work.  (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long.   Now however, I would like to get things going again ...   >  If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with  the words > "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top  of the body of the > message.   I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture.   How is everybody doing?   What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months?   What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others?     Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator   ==========================================================================   To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject     Sender: dhuff()firstbaptist.net   ==========================================================================   To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject     Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com   ==========================================================================   To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject         Sender: dhbcgllc()bellsouth.net   ==========================================================================   To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 21, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: anyone else tried this? From: Bible Memory List Meg,   I have known people to do just that with great success.  They usually leave a space for their own recitation of the verse between verses, and many say that it helps them tremendously.   I am wondering if anyone can give me hints that are not based on the audial, though.  I am hearing impaired, so audio bibiles, cd's, cassettes, etc. do not help me.  I even tried listening to the 119 Psalm on the net today (one of you sent the site) but cannot hear it well enough to understand the words.  However, I really need something other than just flash cards - I spend close to 20 hours a week on the road right now, and would love to be able to spend it in learning and review, yet have to be able to keep my eye on the road - any suggestions?????  Anyone?????   Thanks, Denna Bible Memory List wrote: Hello, everyone! First of all, I'd like to say that it really touched my heart to hear your stories of others in your family starting Bible memory because God used your example. That is so cool. I hope I will be that example for someone someday and they'll say, "I can do this too." Anyhow, here's my idea- I know cassete players are like, old as fossils, but I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a passage onto tape to play it back for help in memorizing and review. I know I could probably do the same thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, and I might, but I'll have to get my husband's help for that. Never messed around with that before. Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea? I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, and I think I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review. Thanks, Meg ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ji bjabinaugural.html"Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Sender: waudenna()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 22, 2005 12:52 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: anyone else tried this? From: Bible Memory List Dear Meg, I have put the verses I'm memorizing on tapes, and I love it!  Great to use while I'm cleaning house or cooking or even taking a walk.  I've also been thinking about putting them on CD's, but like you I'll have to have help with this.  I don't mind that tape recorders are old as the hills-so am I. God Bless, Judy Bible Memory List wrote: Hello, everyone! First of all, I'd like to say that it really touched my heart to hear your stories of others in your family starting Bible memory because God used your example. That is so cool. I hope I will be that example for someone someday and they'll say, "I can do this too." Anyhow, here's my idea- I know cassete players are like, old as fossils, but I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a passage onto tape to play it back for help in memorizing and review. I know I could probably do the same thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, and I might, but I'll have to get my husband's help for that. Never messed around with that before. Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea? I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, and I think I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review. Thanks, Meg ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ji bjabinaugural.html"Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Sender: praise_grace1983()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 22, 2005 10:36 AM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Memory From: Bible Memory List Another excellent book on memorization is "Flaming Sword", by Tai Ikomi. Though it is not always easy to find, her testimony is very moving, as is the book itself.   Denna Bible Memory List wrote: I am certainly very excited about joining the group.  I am a student of Christian Ministries.  Currently I am an undergraduate student and hope to be starting a graduates program soon.    I would like to be able to memorize scripture.  I read so many books and of the course the Bible, but I can not say that I have even 50 scriptures memorized.  Isn't that awful?   So I am hoping through this program and encouragement from all of you that I can definitely improve in this area of my Christian walk.    Thanks for your support   La Tanya Sender: latanyahayward()comcast.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ji bjabinaugural.html"Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Sender: waudenna()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 22, 2005 12:52 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: RE: Confessions From: Bible Memory List Dear David, The Lord has made us all so unique!  I exercise also and have no problem working on my Scripture memory at that time, but I've tried to pray while exercising and it just doesn't work for me at all.  I have to get quiet to hear the Lord. I'd like to log an opinion on what translation to use.  I started out using the N.A.S., but wasn't comfortable with it.  Which I found sort of odd since I had studied from it for years.  Then I tried the R.S.V. and wasn't comfortable with that version for memorization either.  Finally I did what I should have done at the start and ask the Lord which version He would have me to use for Scripture memory.  I was led to use the K.J.V., and am totally comfortable with it.  I would advise anyone who is struggling with which version to use for scripture memory to make it a matter of specific prayer. The Lord knows how He has made us as individuals, and exactly what would be best for each of us. God Bless, Judy           Bible Memory List wrote: I've never been successful at combining exercise and Scripture memory but I have had some success combining exercise and prayer. It's really double motivation for though I might let one slip for a time I'm less inclined to let both disciplines go by the wayside! Therefore if I'm particularly motivated to go out for a run one day I'll be sure to pray, and if my motivation for exercise is low but I've got some pressing matters to pray over I'll be sure to get that exercise in! David Baldwin dbaldwin()word2life.com www.word2life.com -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:32 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Confessions Hello, all! how are you? I have only been getting e-mails from this list for a couple of days now, and I can already tell it will be a big factor in me keeping on track and staying excited about Bible memory. Sometimes I think I'm weak that I need accoutnability for something so "simple", but I guess that's just the way we're made, to need each other. Anyhow, I just read today that Karen (also on this list) does her review and memorizing while she's walking. That's cool because I'm going to start getting back into Bible memory (have been out of it for a little over a month) while I ride my new stationary bike. I need to work on both my physical health and my spiritual health and I know that it will make my biking just fly by if I'm working on verses and not just staring at the little digital display that tells me how slow I'm going. :-) I really look forward to this. Also, another confession, I have been bad about reviewing verses and I know that's pretty stupid, that's like catch and release for fishing... fun at the time, but not very useful long term. I am going to work on reviewing verses too. Oh boy! I have a lot of stuff to get together. Thanks for the support and encouragement I've been getting from all of you! I will stay in touch. -Meg morehorsies()peoplepc.com ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Supermemo www.supermemo.com/ If you check the previous emails in the last 2 weeks there is one that details how the program works and brother who wrote it up, has a good website that shows you how to use the program with scripture memory total recorder www.highcriteria.com/productfr_tr.htm Hopefully that helps Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: Bible Memory List Date: Monday, February 21, 2005 9:30 am Subject: BibleMem: RE: Memlock > Where can you get total recorder, super memo and memlock? > > Don > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bible Memory List [biblememory()memoryverses.org] > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 9:31 AM > To: biblememory()memoryverses.org > Subject: BibleMem: Memlock > > Hi. > > There are a lot of ways of recording verses on your computer. I use > the program called "Total Recorder" and find that it works very well > and have also found that playing it back in my own voice is helpful in > memorizing and also in meditating on the scripture. I memorize in the > NASB version and was not able to find any prerecorded verses and so I > started recording my own. > > I am 53 years old and over the years started memorizing Scripture a > number of times but always ended up quiting after awhile. Then 5 years > ago I came across Memlok (www.memlok.com) and started using that > program and found that for me it was the perfect way to keep track of > passages and review them in a systematic manner. I find it difficult > to memorize but over that 5 yearperiod I have been able to memorize > over 1000 verses and have hardly missed a day when I have not spent > time in memorizing, meditating and reviewing.Praise God!! > > I am almost completed the whole program and when I am finished I am > planning to enter all my verses into Supermemo and then carry on > memorizing usingSupermemo. > > As I have been reading all the posts in the past 2 weeks, there have > been so many times I read all the questions various people have had, > and have said to myself, "they need to look at memlok". So I encourage > you all to go to the memlok website and look at the program and see if > might be the programthat God would have you use to memorize His Word. > > After you have completed the program you will have memorized a passage > from every chapter in the New Testament and Proverbs and a passage > from everybook in the Old Testament which are divided into 48 > different topics with approximately 12 verses in each topic. > > God bless you all. > > Harold > > > > ,but I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a > > passage onto tape to > > play it back for help in memorizing and review. I know I could > > probably do the same thing with a CD and a microphone on my > computer, > > and I might, but I'll have to get my husband's help for that. > Never > > messed around with that before. > > Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea? > > I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long > passages, > > and I think I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for > review.> Thanks, > > Meg > > > > ________________________________________ > > PeoplePC Online > > A better way to Internet > > http://www.peoplepc.com > > > > > > Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com > > > > > ====================================================================== > > ==== > > > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > > > > > > Sender: justdoitcr()shaw.ca > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > > > > Sender: dmyers()rmci.net > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > Sender: justdoitcr()shaw.ca ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 22, 2005 10:36 AM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Re: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List Neil, Thanks so much for sharing the passage from Renovation of the Heart.  It is so encouraging!  I'll have to keep my eye out for this book.  Like you, I haven't memorized as much as some on the list.  But I am enjoying what I have and looking forward to more. God Bless You, Judy Bible Memory List wrote: Hello everyone Some months ago I came across a book by Dallas Willard called Renovation of the Heart. It has certainly been a transformational book for me and I would like to share just one short passage from it with this list ... "The most obvious thing we can do is to draw certain key portions of Scripture into our minds and make them a part of the permanent fixtures of our thought. This is the primary discipline for the thought life. We need to know them like the back of our hand, and a good way to do that is to memorize them and then constantly turn them over in our minds as we go through the events and circumstances of our life (Joshua 1:8; Psalm 1). The desired effect will not be realized by focusing on isolated verses, but will certainly come as we ingest passages, such as Romans 5:1-8 or 8:1-15, 1 Corinthians 13, or Colossians 3:1-17. When you take these into your mind, your mind will become filled with the light of God himself. And light shines into darkness and darkness loses. When the light comes into a room, we do not have to say, "Now what are we going to do about the darkness?" It's gone! You say, "I can't memorize like that." I assure you, you certainly can. God made your mind for it and he will help you. He really wants you to do this. Of course that will be an integral part of the other changes that will permeate your life as a whole. As you choose to give your time and energy to, and plan your life around, the renovation of your mind, it will happen.' But you must choose to do it and learn how-just like learning to program and live with your VCR. Then you will know by experience that the mind of the Spirit is life and peace, and in all the deflections of life your mind will automatically re-center on God as the needle of the compass returns to the north." I cannot begin to match the memorization achievements of some members of this list - I am truly astounded at what I have been reading in some of the posts over the last few days - but I now have got Psalm 1, Psalm 23, Romans 5.1-8, 1 Corinthians 13, Colossians 3.1-7, Matthew 5.13-20, 2 Peter 1.2-11, and Isaiah 40.27-31 into my head and heart ... and what a blessing and source of nourishment that is. Like others on the list, I use time in the car to review, but my main learning/reviewing time is as soon as I get up on a morning and have my first two cups of tea! Best wishes Neil Sender: neil()wincy.co.uk ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page – HYPERLINK "http://my.yahoo.com"Try My Yahoo! Sender: praise_grace1983()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 22, 2005 12:52 PM Subject: BibleMem: Thank you From: Bible Memory List I can't remember who suggested Steve Green's children's music of verses, but it is wonderful! I have Philippians 4:13 in my 'heart' now, just from a song on the V.1 CD! Thank you again! In Spirit, Rho ___________________________________________________________ Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Sender: rhodan9697()hotmail.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 22, 2005 12:52 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: anyone else tried this? From: Bible Memory List Dear Meg, I have put the verses I'm memorizing on tapes, and I love it!  Great to use while I'm cleaning house or cooking or even taking a walk.  I've also been thinking about putting them on CD's, but like you I'll have to have help with this.  I don't mind that tape recorders are old as the hills-so am I. God Bless, Judy Bible Memory List wrote: Hello, everyone! First of all, I'd like to say that it really touched my heart to hear your stories of others in your family starting Bible memory because God used your example. That is so cool. I hope I will be that example for someone someday and they'll say, "I can do this too." Anyhow, here's my idea- I know cassete players are like, old as fossils, but I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a passage onto tape to play it back for help in memorizing and review. I know I could probably do the same thing with a CD and a microphone on my computer, and I might, but I'll have to get my husband's help for that. Never messed around with that before. Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea? I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long passages, and I think I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for review. Thanks, Meg ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ji bjabinaugural.html"Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Sender: praise_grace1983()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 22, 2005 10:36 AM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Memory From: Bible Memory List Another excellent book on memorization is "Flaming Sword", by Tai Ikomi. Though it is not always easy to find, her testimony is very moving, as is the book itself.   Denna Bible Memory List wrote: I am certainly very excited about joining the group.  I am a student of Christian Ministries.  Currently I am an undergraduate student and hope to be starting a graduates program soon.    I would like to be able to memorize scripture.  I read so many books and of the course the Bible, but I can not say that I have even 50 scriptures memorized.  Isn't that awful?   So I am hoping through this program and encouragement from all of you that I can definitely improve in this area of my Christian walk.    Thanks for your support   La Tanya Sender: latanyahayward()comcast.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ji bjabinaugural.html"Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Sender: waudenna()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 22, 2005 12:52 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: RE: Confessions From: Bible Memory List Dear David, The Lord has made us all so unique!  I exercise also and have no problem working on my Scripture memory at that time, but I've tried to pray while exercising and it just doesn't work for me at all.  I have to get quiet to hear the Lord. I'd like to log an opinion on what translation to use.  I started out using the N.A.S., but wasn't comfortable with it.  Which I found sort of odd since I had studied from it for years.  Then I tried the R.S.V. and wasn't comfortable with that version for memorization either.  Finally I did what I should have done at the start and ask the Lord which version He would have me to use for Scripture memory.  I was led to use the K.J.V., and am totally comfortable with it.  I would advise anyone who is struggling with which version to use for scripture memory to make it a matter of specific prayer. The Lord knows how He has made us as individuals, and exactly what would be best for each of us. God Bless, Judy           Bible Memory List wrote: I've never been successful at combining exercise and Scripture memory but I have had some success combining exercise and prayer. It's really double motivation for though I might let one slip for a time I'm less inclined to let both disciplines go by the wayside! Therefore if I'm particularly motivated to go out for a run one day I'll be sure to pray, and if my motivation for exercise is low but I've got some pressing matters to pray over I'll be sure to get that exercise in! David Baldwin dbaldwin()word2life.com www.word2life.com -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:32 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Confessions Hello, all! how are you? I have only been getting e-mails from this list for a couple of days now, and I can already tell it will be a big factor in me keeping on track and staying excited about Bible memory. Sometimes I think I'm weak that I need accoutnability for something so "simple", but I guess that's just the way we're made, to need each other. Anyhow, I just read today that Karen (also on this list) does her review and memorizing while she's walking. That's cool because I'm going to start getting back into Bible memory (have been out of it for a little over a month) while I ride my new stationary bike. I need to work on both my physical health and my spiritual health and I know that it will make my biking just fly by if I'm working on verses and not just staring at the little digital display that tells me how slow I'm going. :-) I really look forward to this. Also, another confession, I have been bad about reviewing verses and I know that's pretty stupid, that's like catch and release for fishing... fun at the time, but not very useful long term. I am going to work on reviewing verses too. Oh boy! I have a lot of stuff to get together. Thanks for the support and encouragement I've been getting from all of you! I will stay in touch. -Meg morehorsies()peoplepc.com ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ji bjabinaugural.html"Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Sender: praise_grace1983()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 22, 2005 10:36 AM Subject: BibleMem: Re: RE: Memlock From: Bible Memory List Memlok www.memlok.com see message entitled " emLok Bible Memory System" sent at 1:17 Feb 21st which has a lot more information about Memlok Note about memlok. Most of the passages are 1-4 verses but I quite often enlarge the passage by pasting it into the personal note section. Works really well! Supermemo www.supermemo.com/ If you check the previous emails in the last 2 weeks there is one that details how the program works and brother who wrote it up, has a good website that shows you how to use the program with scripture memory total recorder www.highcriteria.com/productfr_tr.htm Hopefully that helps Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: Bible Memory List Date: Monday, February 21, 2005 9:30 am Subject: BibleMem: RE: Memlock > Where can you get total recorder, super memo and memlock? > > Don > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bible Memory List [biblememory()memoryverses.org] > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 9:31 AM > To: biblememory()memoryverses.org > Subject: BibleMem: Memlock > > Hi. > > There are a lot of ways of recording verses on your computer. I use > the program called "Total Recorder" and find that it works very well > and have also found that playing it back in my own voice is helpful in > memorizing and also in meditating on the scripture. I memorize in the > NASB version and was not able to find any prerecorded verses and so I > started recording my own. > > I am 53 years old and over the years started memorizing Scripture a > number of times but always ended up quiting after awhile. Then 5 years > ago I came across Memlok (www.memlok.com) and started using that > program and found that for me it was the perfect way to keep track of > passages and review them in a systematic manner. I find it difficult > to memorize but over that 5 yearperiod I have been able to memorize > over 1000 verses and have hardly missed a day when I have not spent > time in memorizing, meditating and reviewing.Praise God!! > > I am almost completed the whole program and when I am finished I am > planning to enter all my verses into Supermemo and then carry on > memorizing usingSupermemo. > > As I have been reading all the posts in the past 2 weeks, there have > been so many times I read all the questions various people have had, > and have said to myself, "they need to look at memlok". So I encourage > you all to go to the memlok website and look at the program and see if > might be the programthat God would have you use to memorize His Word. > > After you have completed the program you will have memorized a passage > from every chapter in the New Testament and Proverbs and a passage > from everybook in the Old Testament which are divided into 48 > different topics with approximately 12 verses in each topic. > > God bless you all. > > Harold > > > > ,but I've been thinking of recording my own reading of a > > passage onto tape to > > play it back for help in memorizing and review. I know I could > > probably do the same thing with a CD and a microphone on my > computer, > > and I might, but I'll have to get my husband's help for that. > Never > > messed around with that before. > > Has anyone else done this? and what do you think of the idea? > > I really think I'm going to do it for help memorizing long > passages, > > and I think I'll put everything on tape or CD to listen to for > review.> Thanks, > > Meg > > > > ________________________________________ > > PeoplePC Online > > A better way to Internet > > http://www.peoplepc.com > > > > > > Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com > > > > > ====================================================================== > > ==== > > > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > > > > > > Sender: justdoitcr()shaw.ca > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > > > > Sender: dmyers()rmci.net > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > Sender: justdoitcr()shaw.ca ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 22, 2005 10:36 AM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Re: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List Neil, Thanks so much for sharing the passage from Renovation of the Heart.  It is so encouraging!  I'll have to keep my eye out for this book.  Like you, I haven't memorized as much as some on the list.  But I am enjoying what I have and looking forward to more. God Bless You, Judy Bible Memory List wrote: Hello everyone Some months ago I came across a book by Dallas Willard called Renovation of the Heart. It has certainly been a transformational book for me and I would like to share just one short passage from it with this list ... "The most obvious thing we can do is to draw certain key portions of Scripture into our minds and make them a part of the permanent fixtures of our thought. This is the primary discipline for the thought life. We need to know them like the back of our hand, and a good way to do that is to memorize them and then constantly turn them over in our minds as we go through the events and circumstances of our life (Joshua 1:8; Psalm 1). The desired effect will not be realized by focusing on isolated verses, but will certainly come as we ingest passages, such as Romans 5:1-8 or 8:1-15, 1 Corinthians 13, or Colossians 3:1-17. When you take these into your mind, your mind will become filled with the light of God himself. And light shines into darkness and darkness loses. When the light comes into a room, we do not have to say, "Now what are we going to do about the darkness?" It's gone! You say, "I can't memorize like that." I assure you, you certainly can. God made your mind for it and he will help you. He really wants you to do this. Of course that will be an integral part of the other changes that will permeate your life as a whole. As you choose to give your time and energy to, and plan your life around, the renovation of your mind, it will happen.' But you must choose to do it and learn how-just like learning to program and live with your VCR. Then you will know by experience that the mind of the Spirit is life and peace, and in all the deflections of life your mind will automatically re-center on God as the needle of the compass returns to the north." I cannot begin to match the memorization achievements of some members of this list - I am truly astounded at what I have been reading in some of the posts over the last few days - but I now have got Psalm 1, Psalm 23, Romans 5.1-8, 1 Corinthians 13, Colossians 3.1-7, Matthew 5.13-20, 2 Peter 1.2-11, and Isaiah 40.27-31 into my head and heart ... and what a blessing and source of nourishment that is. Like others on the list, I use time in the car to review, but my main learning/reviewing time is as soon as I get up on a morning and have my first two cups of tea! Best wishes Neil Sender: neil()wincy.co.uk ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page – HYPERLINK "http://my.yahoo.com"Try My Yahoo! Sender: praise_grace1983()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 22, 2005 12:52 PM Subject: BibleMem: Thank you From: Bible Memory List I can't remember who suggested Steve Green's children's music of verses, but it is wonderful! I have Philippians 4:13 in my 'heart' now, just from a song on the V.1 CD! Thank you again! In Spirit, Rho ___________________________________________________________ Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Sender: rhodan9697()hotmail.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 23, 2005 2:21 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: cd's mp3's recording etc. From: Bible Memory List Rusty, Very interesting. Can you give a step-by-step description of how you do the wav file and then convert it to mp3? I would assume that you could record the narration from Biblegateway.com to a wav file and then convert to mp3. I also use the business card holder for my verses. I copy and paste the verse to a word file (business card layout) - one for the verse and one for the reference. Once I have 10 in a file I will print the verses on one side and run it thru again to print the reference on the other side. Very seldom do I not have a few cards in my shirt pocket or even in my car. I have bought a number of the holders from Staples. The larger ones will hold upwards of 50 cards each. For the person who had a lot of travel time and was hearing impaired, I find that if I use a larger font, it is fairly easy to review in the car. Of course, I am not in really heavy traffic. It just takes a quick glance at the card to verify if you are saying the verse correctly or to get help on one you are memorizing. I had a delivery job in college and this worked well for a World Religions class that we had to memorize 60 verses for. You just have to be extra careful if you do this. The key word above was "quick" glance. In Christ! Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 11:05 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: cd's mp3's recording etc. I gotta jump in here... I've been a member of this thing forever but never said much and quite frankly put memorizing scriptures on the back burner... Could make it a long boring story but suffice it to say that the Lord took me through a period of depression (sorry if I sound like a jerk but I thought depression was for women). A VERY STRONG DEPRESSION that lasted until the Lord got through to my thick skull. He showed me that I needed to get in the word, that I needed a bunch of bibles everywhere I sit down so that when I get a few minutes there is always a bible nearby. It's a pretty strong testimony in all the detail but anyway, the depression lifted and He had me start memorizing. Since I'm a member of a hard rock Christian band (we're waiting for the singer that God has in mind) I have lotsa recording equipment. I started recording myself speaking memory verses (NASB) and then converting the wav files to mp3's. I ask for a car stereo for my birthday from my lovely wife that would play mp3's as you can fit the entire bible on just a few cd's. I group the verses in bunches of three and the sony player enables me to repeat track or repeat album (which is just a directory that the mp3's are grouped in). This gives me complete control over the structure of the cd. Then after I learn 5 groups of 3 I place all those in a folder for review and keep building the number of scriptures on the cd. It's not all perfected yet, but it's working. In only about 2 months I've memorized 30 verses (actually 38 since some of the verses are more than a single verse; for example Psalms 1:1-3 I generally count as one verse). When you do it yourself you can pick the scriptures you want, you can group them the way you want and memorize easily as you drive to work and back. I wouldn't mind helping some of you but would be concerned about the copyright issue with the NASB... Anyway just thought I'd throw some info into the mix and if you have any questions I'll try to answer them. Not to bore you but when I got saved (1989) I found a little business card holder like thing at a gas station (it was laying on the blacktop) while filling up that had a bunch of bible verses in it (I was so young in the Lord that I didn't even know what the "NASB" printed on them meant!). I've since changed jobs twice moved three times (once to a different state) and got married. That little verse holder (it's only about 2 x 3 inches) would disappear then re-appear later and right now I'm looking at it. When I decided to memorize I decided on the NASB and as I looked through the little verse holder I noticed it was NASB .... God is awesome and will continue to work in your life to bring you to the next level as long as you let Him... sorry I'm so long winded, but it seems like a lot of "coincidences" relating to me memorizing, me recording, the stream from your group suddenly showing up in my email again.... some of what I'm saying is valuable to someone out there... I'm a head engineer, and a system administrator plus in my spare time I'm trying to make a bible chart that shows the structure of entire bible in an in depth way, and write songs... I'm really spread too thin so I don't read all the post from this group. I don't know how to help without getting completely overwhelmed. I just know God had me throw this info out there for somebody. Also, I converted my "Red Jeffries" cd's (I think there were about 60) into mp3's and now the entire bible is on 7 cd's (that was a severe pain in the butt). Also, you can buy one that has the whole bible on two cd's by Steve Stephens. Very reasonably priced (I wish I knew about before I converted all the "Red Jeffries" wav files). If you can afford an mp3 player for your car it's worth it. In Him, Rusty __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp Sender: RJIVEY77()netscape.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: CCarlton()AugustaMed.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 23, 2005 5:19 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: cd's mp3's recording etc. From: Bible Memory List I convert .wav files to mp3 using iTunes a free program online. It makes them so much smaller! Also, I have for sale Pocket Cardholders made by the 1000 (leather, black only, see-through pocket on the outside - holds about 75-100 business cards - real packed!) http://www.memlok.com/cart/ Click on All products, then "Click Here for More Info" and you'll see my hand holding one. if you have trouble getting into the cart, you need to call me. There is no shipping charge and they are $2.95 ea. Drake http://www.memlok.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- At 2/23/2005 11:21 AM, you wrote: Rusty,  Very interesting.  Can you give a step-by-step description of how you do the wav file and then convert it to mp3?  I would assume that you could record the narration from Biblegateway.com to a wav file and then convert to mp3. I also use the business card holder for my verses.  I copy and paste the verse to a word file (business card layout) - one for the verse and one for the reference.  Once I have 10 in a file I will print the verses on one side and run it thru again to print the reference on the other side.  Very seldom do I not have a few cards in my shirt pocket or even in my car.  I have bought a number of the holders from Staples.  The larger ones will hold upwards of 50 cards each. For the person who had a lot of travel time and was hearing impaired, I find that if I use a larger font, it is fairly easy to review in the car. Of course, I am not in really heavy traffic.  It just takes a quick glance at the card to verify if you are saying the verse correctly or to get help on one you are memorizing. I had a delivery job in college and this worked well for a World Religions class that we had to memorize 60 verses for.  You just have to be extra careful if you do this.  The key word above was "quick" glance. In Christ! Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [HYPERLINK "mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org" mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 11:05 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: cd's mp3's recording etc. I gotta jump in here... I've been a member of this thing forever but never said much and quite frankly put memorizing scriptures on the back burner... Could make it a long boring story but suffice it to say that the Lord took me through a period of depression (sorry if I sound like a jerk but I thought depression was for women).  A VERY STRONG DEPRESSION that lasted until the Lord got through to my thick skull.  He showed me that I needed to get in the word, that I needed a bunch of bibles everywhere I sit down so that when I get a few minutes there is always a bible nearby.  It's a pretty strong testimony in all the detail but anyway, the depression lifted and He had me start memorizing.  Since I'm a member of a hard rock Christian band (we're waiting for the singer that God has in mind) I have lotsa recording equipment.  I started recording myself speaking memory verses (NASB) and then converting the wav files to mp3's.  I ask for a car stereo for my birthday from my lovely wife that would play mp3's as you can fit the entire bible on just a few cd's.    I group the verses in bunches of three and the sony player enables me to repeat track or repeat album (which is just a directory that the mp3's are grouped in).  This gives me complete control over the structure of the cd. Then after I learn 5 groups of 3 I place all those in a folder for review and keep building the number of scriptures on the cd.  It's not all perfected yet, but it's working.  In only about 2 months I've memorized 30 verses (actually 38 since some of the verses are more than a single verse; for example Psalms 1:1-3 I generally count as one verse).  When you do it yourself you can pick the scriptures you want, you can group them the way you want and memorize easily as you drive to work and back.    I wouldn't mind helping some of you but would be concerned about the copyright issue with the NASB...   Anyway just thought I'd throw some info into the mix and if you have any questions I'll try to answer them.   Not to bore you but when I got saved (1989) I found a little business card holder like thing at a gas station (it was laying on the blacktop) while filling up that had a bunch of bible verses in it (I was so young in the Lord that I didn't even know what the "NASB" printed on them meant!).  I've since changed jobs twice moved three times (once to a different state) and got married.  That little verse holder (it's only about 2 x 3 inches) would disappear then re-appear later and right now I'm looking at it.  When I decided to memorize I decided on the NASB  and as I looked through the little verse holder I noticed it was NASB .... God is awesome and will continue to work in your life to bring you to the next level as long as you let Him...  sorry I'm so long winded, but it seems like a lot of "coincidences" relating to me memorizing, me recording, the stream from your group suddenly showing up in my email again.... some of what I'm saying is valuable to someone out there... I'm a head engineer, and a system administrator plus in my spare time I'm trying to make a bible chart that shows the structure of entire bible in an in depth way, and write songs... I'm really spread too thin so I don't read all the post from this group.  I don't know how to help without getting completely overwhelmed.  I just know God had me throw this info out there for somebody.   Also, I converted my "Red Jeffries" cd's (I think there were about 60) into mp3's and now the entire bible is on 7 cd's (that was a severe pain in the butt).  Also, you can buy one that has the whole bible on two cd's by Steve Stephens.  Very reasonably priced (I wish I knew about before I converted all the "Red Jeffries" wav files).  If you can afford an mp3 player for your car it's worth it. In Him, Rusty __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. 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I usually do about 15 at a time; since I'm a hopeless perfectionist It takes me a while to get them "acceptable" (note: Lately I feel the Lord leading me to come up with some type of praise medley of verses.. a bunch of verse memorized as a group that are all praise to Him... I know my praise to Him will never be as good as He deserves, but I also know that it could be better. I would be interested in any list of this kind to save me from the leg work...) 2) Record myself saying the reference then the verse. Typically I try for this ... 1 second silence, the reference, 2-3 seconds silence, the verse, 2-3 seconds of silence. When you are driving and hear the reference you (at least I do) need about two seconds to recall it so that you are ready to recite it with the cd. 3) I then use a program called "cdex" to convert the wave file to mp3. This program is free but they take donations. It is a very useful program that will "rip" wave files from a cd player. I would encourage anyone utilizing free programs to donate $5 or $10 if they can afford it. Writing software is a very laborious process, and these people who give it away should be rewarded. Also, I'm am not advocating "stealing" music when I say "rip" files of a cd. I'm a musician and know what goes into creating music... very similar to creating programs... lots of time. When I'm talking about ripping, I'm talking about something I've already paid for and am utilizing in another fashion for MYSELF and not for resale. I've copied stuff illegally in the past and the Lord showed me that I need to be faithful in the small things. If I pay for a cd and then I want to make copies, or a cd with selection from various artists for my own personal use, I'm not convicted. If I copy something from someone else, or copy something of mine for someone else, I would feel convicted. I'm not preaching, not judging, just telling where the Lord has brought me. A note on the differences between mp3's and waves: Your typical audio cd has wave files. Depending on the bit rate an mp3 might be 1/10th the size (or even smaller) than a wave file. You can throw many more mp3's on a cd. The catch is the quality isn't as high and you have to have an mp3 player to listen to it. Also, the mp3's are 'sorted' by name and therefore how you name them is crucial to the order they are played. Anyone who knows more about this or any subject I engage is more than welcome to correct me, as I don't want to disseminate bad information. Anyway, there is nothing wrong with leaving your files in wave form and burning a regular audio cd if you desire. Most players play burnt audio cd's and it might not be a priority for you to acquire an mp3 player. You will be limited to around 70-80 minutes of play time with typical audio cds. The mp3 format is also just a typical folder structure that you might see on a computer. Here's the good, the bad, and the ugly. The good is that you can group your files in different folders to enable more control over your playback options. The bad is that some players (including mine) have limitations on the numbers of files you can have, the number of folders you can have, and the number of files you can have in each folder. Still with these limitations it is well worth it for me to go with mp3's. Oh yeah and the ugly ... that's me, I saw myself in the mirror this morning... WOW!!! I'm glad the Lord made my wife to see with her heart instead of her eyes! 4) I then burn the cd with the files that I want in the order that I want. Here's what a typical structure on my cd would look like with mp3's folders: 01-3 04-6 07-9 10-12 13-15 01-15_NR PRE_NR I would have my first three verses in "01-3", the next three in "04-6" and so on. When I listen to the cd I have three options on repeat. I can repeat file, repeat folder, or no repeat at all. So if I'm learning verses 10-12 and concentrating on 11 at the time, I would be in folder"10-12" and have "repeat file" on as I listen to verse #11. After I go over it a while, I could then listen to #12... Then switch to "folder repeat" and review verse #10,11, and 12 over and over. Very handy, and hands free. I've read some of the posts where people like using tapes... Whatever works for you. If you are learning the word and you are comfortably with your method, more power to ya!!! I can understand why someone would not want to invest the time and money into doing it the way I do it. But I will say that it is effective. Also, above you see the "01-15NR" and "PRE-NR" folders... the "NR" stand for "no reference". I typically make two wave files, one with the verse reference and one without. One of my biggest problems has been remembering the reference. I throw the ones I have memorized into these folders and then when I hear them I recall the verse reference and look at the player to see the name of the file (my player also only displays 8 char's so you have to name them abbreviated). The "PRE" means previous; I will dump all verses I have previously memorized in here for review. Also there is free burning software available; I have used "burnatonce" but I'm sure others are available. I'm writing this for the typical non-geek, non-musician so I'm leaving out a lot of details. I will supply as much detail as requested, time permitting. I use a SM-57 mic, sonar software, and a Aardvark Pro-Q10 sound device. This is complete overkill for anyone who is not trying to produce professional recordings. Most computers have sound cards, cd burners, and an inexpensive mic. This will work fine.... again, everyone is different... whatever gets the Word In!!! The "Total Recorder" software mentioned earlier seems to work. Also Windows has it's own wave recorder built in to the operating system. Any details about these matters can be furnished by myself or someone else in the group. I wouldn’t even be opposed to helping with a repository of files, however they would have to be a version that is in the public domain… the KJV and the WEB version come to mind and I’m sure there are others… I've got to get to church so I'll talk at ya’ll later... just remember... 2 Tim 3:16.... I bet you guys all know that one!! In Him, Rusty >Rusty, Very interesting. Can you give a step-by-step description of >how you do the wav file and then convert it to mp3? I would assume >that you could record the narration from Biblegateway.com to a wav file >and then convert to mp3. __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp Sender: RJIVEY77()netscape.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 23, 2005 2:21 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: cd's mp3's recording etc. From: Bible Memory List Rusty, Very interesting. Can you give a step-by-step description of how you do the wav file and then convert it to mp3? I would assume that you could record the narration from Biblegateway.com to a wav file and then convert to mp3. I also use the business card holder for my verses. I copy and paste the verse to a word file (business card layout) - one for the verse and one for the reference. Once I have 10 in a file I will print the verses on one side and run it thru again to print the reference on the other side. Very seldom do I not have a few cards in my shirt pocket or even in my car. I have bought a number of the holders from Staples. The larger ones will hold upwards of 50 cards each. For the person who had a lot of travel time and was hearing impaired, I find that if I use a larger font, it is fairly easy to review in the car. Of course, I am not in really heavy traffic. It just takes a quick glance at the card to verify if you are saying the verse correctly or to get help on one you are memorizing. I had a delivery job in college and this worked well for a World Religions class that we had to memorize 60 verses for. You just have to be extra careful if you do this. The key word above was "quick" glance. In Christ! Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 11:05 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: cd's mp3's recording etc. I gotta jump in here... I've been a member of this thing forever but never said much and quite frankly put memorizing scriptures on the back burner... Could make it a long boring story but suffice it to say that the Lord took me through a period of depression (sorry if I sound like a jerk but I thought depression was for women). A VERY STRONG DEPRESSION that lasted until the Lord got through to my thick skull. He showed me that I needed to get in the word, that I needed a bunch of bibles everywhere I sit down so that when I get a few minutes there is always a bible nearby. It's a pretty strong testimony in all the detail but anyway, the depression lifted and He had me start memorizing. Since I'm a member of a hard rock Christian band (we're waiting for the singer that God has in mind) I have lotsa recording equipment. I started recording myself speaking memory verses (NASB) and then converting the wav files to mp3's. I ask for a car stereo for my birthday from my lovely wife that would play mp3's as you can fit the entire bible on just a few cd's. I group the verses in bunches of three and the sony player enables me to repeat track or repeat album (which is just a directory that the mp3's are grouped in). This gives me complete control over the structure of the cd. Then after I learn 5 groups of 3 I place all those in a folder for review and keep building the number of scriptures on the cd. It's not all perfected yet, but it's working. In only about 2 months I've memorized 30 verses (actually 38 since some of the verses are more than a single verse; for example Psalms 1:1-3 I generally count as one verse). When you do it yourself you can pick the scriptures you want, you can group them the way you want and memorize easily as you drive to work and back. I wouldn't mind helping some of you but would be concerned about the copyright issue with the NASB... Anyway just thought I'd throw some info into the mix and if you have any questions I'll try to answer them. Not to bore you but when I got saved (1989) I found a little business card holder like thing at a gas station (it was laying on the blacktop) while filling up that had a bunch of bible verses in it (I was so young in the Lord that I didn't even know what the "NASB" printed on them meant!). I've since changed jobs twice moved three times (once to a different state) and got married. That little verse holder (it's only about 2 x 3 inches) would disappear then re-appear later and right now I'm looking at it. When I decided to memorize I decided on the NASB and as I looked through the little verse holder I noticed it was NASB .... God is awesome and will continue to work in your life to bring you to the next level as long as you let Him... sorry I'm so long winded, but it seems like a lot of "coincidences" relating to me memorizing, me recording, the stream from your group suddenly showing up in my email again.... some of what I'm saying is valuable to someone out there... I'm a head engineer, and a system administrator plus in my spare time I'm trying to make a bible chart that shows the structure of entire bible in an in depth way, and write songs... I'm really spread too thin so I don't read all the post from this group. I don't know how to help without getting completely overwhelmed. I just know God had me throw this info out there for somebody. Also, I converted my "Red Jeffries" cd's (I think there were about 60) into mp3's and now the entire bible is on 7 cd's (that was a severe pain in the butt). Also, you can buy one that has the whole bible on two cd's by Steve Stephens. Very reasonably priced (I wish I knew about before I converted all the "Red Jeffries" wav files). If you can afford an mp3 player for your car it's worth it. In Him, Rusty __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp Sender: RJIVEY77()netscape.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: CCarlton()AugustaMed.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 23, 2005 5:19 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: cd's mp3's recording etc. From: Bible Memory List I convert .wav files to mp3 using iTunes a free program online. It makes them so much smaller! Also, I have for sale Pocket Cardholders made by the 1000 (leather, black only, see-through pocket on the outside - holds about 75-100 business cards - real packed!) http://www.memlok.com/cart/ Click on All products, then "Click Here for More Info" and you'll see my hand holding one. if you have trouble getting into the cart, you need to call me. There is no shipping charge and they are $2.95 ea. Drake http://www.memlok.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- At 2/23/2005 11:21 AM, you wrote: Rusty,  Very interesting.  Can you give a step-by-step description of how you do the wav file and then convert it to mp3?  I would assume that you could record the narration from Biblegateway.com to a wav file and then convert to mp3. I also use the business card holder for my verses.  I copy and paste the verse to a word file (business card layout) - one for the verse and one for the reference.  Once I have 10 in a file I will print the verses on one side and run it thru again to print the reference on the other side.  Very seldom do I not have a few cards in my shirt pocket or even in my car.  I have bought a number of the holders from Staples.  The larger ones will hold upwards of 50 cards each. For the person who had a lot of travel time and was hearing impaired, I find that if I use a larger font, it is fairly easy to review in the car. Of course, I am not in really heavy traffic.  It just takes a quick glance at the card to verify if you are saying the verse correctly or to get help on one you are memorizing. I had a delivery job in college and this worked well for a World Religions class that we had to memorize 60 verses for.  You just have to be extra careful if you do this.  The key word above was "quick" glance. In Christ! Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [HYPERLINK "mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org" mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 11:05 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: cd's mp3's recording etc. I gotta jump in here... I've been a member of this thing forever but never said much and quite frankly put memorizing scriptures on the back burner... Could make it a long boring story but suffice it to say that the Lord took me through a period of depression (sorry if I sound like a jerk but I thought depression was for women).  A VERY STRONG DEPRESSION that lasted until the Lord got through to my thick skull.  He showed me that I needed to get in the word, that I needed a bunch of bibles everywhere I sit down so that when I get a few minutes there is always a bible nearby.  It's a pretty strong testimony in all the detail but anyway, the depression lifted and He had me start memorizing.  Since I'm a member of a hard rock Christian band (we're waiting for the singer that God has in mind) I have lotsa recording equipment.  I started recording myself speaking memory verses (NASB) and then converting the wav files to mp3's.  I ask for a car stereo for my birthday from my lovely wife that would play mp3's as you can fit the entire bible on just a few cd's.    I group the verses in bunches of three and the sony player enables me to repeat track or repeat album (which is just a directory that the mp3's are grouped in).  This gives me complete control over the structure of the cd. Then after I learn 5 groups of 3 I place all those in a folder for review and keep building the number of scriptures on the cd.  It's not all perfected yet, but it's working.  In only about 2 months I've memorized 30 verses (actually 38 since some of the verses are more than a single verse; for example Psalms 1:1-3 I generally count as one verse).  When you do it yourself you can pick the scriptures you want, you can group them the way you want and memorize easily as you drive to work and back.    I wouldn't mind helping some of you but would be concerned about the copyright issue with the NASB...   Anyway just thought I'd throw some info into the mix and if you have any questions I'll try to answer them.   Not to bore you but when I got saved (1989) I found a little business card holder like thing at a gas station (it was laying on the blacktop) while filling up that had a bunch of bible verses in it (I was so young in the Lord that I didn't even know what the "NASB" printed on them meant!).  I've since changed jobs twice moved three times (once to a different state) and got married.  That little verse holder (it's only about 2 x 3 inches) would disappear then re-appear later and right now I'm looking at it.  When I decided to memorize I decided on the NASB  and as I looked through the little verse holder I noticed it was NASB .... God is awesome and will continue to work in your life to bring you to the next level as long as you let Him...  sorry I'm so long winded, but it seems like a lot of "coincidences" relating to me memorizing, me recording, the stream from your group suddenly showing up in my email again.... some of what I'm saying is valuable to someone out there... I'm a head engineer, and a system administrator plus in my spare time I'm trying to make a bible chart that shows the structure of entire bible in an in depth way, and write songs... I'm really spread too thin so I don't read all the post from this group.  I don't know how to help without getting completely overwhelmed.  I just know God had me throw this info out there for somebody.   Also, I converted my "Red Jeffries" cd's (I think there were about 60) into mp3's and now the entire bible is on 7 cd's (that was a severe pain in the butt).  Also, you can buy one that has the whole bible on two cd's by Steve Stephens.  Very reasonably priced (I wish I knew about before I converted all the "Red Jeffries" wav files).  If you can afford an mp3 player for your car it's worth it. In Him, Rusty __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. 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I usually do about 15 at a time; since I'm a hopeless perfectionist It takes me a while to get them "acceptable" (note: Lately I feel the Lord leading me to come up with some type of praise medley of verses.. a bunch of verse memorized as a group that are all praise to Him... I know my praise to Him will never be as good as He deserves, but I also know that it could be better. I would be interested in any list of this kind to save me from the leg work...) 2) Record myself saying the reference then the verse. Typically I try for this ... 1 second silence, the reference, 2-3 seconds silence, the verse, 2-3 seconds of silence. When you are driving and hear the reference you (at least I do) need about two seconds to recall it so that you are ready to recite it with the cd. 3) I then use a program called "cdex" to convert the wave file to mp3. This program is free but they take donations. It is a very useful program that will "rip" wave files from a cd player. I would encourage anyone utilizing free programs to donate $5 or $10 if they can afford it. Writing software is a very laborious process, and these people who give it away should be rewarded. Also, I'm am not advocating "stealing" music when I say "rip" files of a cd. I'm a musician and know what goes into creating music... very similar to creating programs... lots of time. When I'm talking about ripping, I'm talking about something I've already paid for and am utilizing in another fashion for MYSELF and not for resale. I've copied stuff illegally in the past and the Lord showed me that I need to be faithful in the small things. If I pay for a cd and then I want to make copies, or a cd with selection from various artists for my own personal use, I'm not convicted. If I copy something from someone else, or copy something of mine for someone else, I would feel convicted. I'm not preaching, not judging, just telling where the Lord has brought me. A note on the differences between mp3's and waves: Your typical audio cd has wave files. Depending on the bit rate an mp3 might be 1/10th the size (or even smaller) than a wave file. You can throw many more mp3's on a cd. The catch is the quality isn't as high and you have to have an mp3 player to listen to it. Also, the mp3's are 'sorted' by name and therefore how you name them is crucial to the order they are played. Anyone who knows more about this or any subject I engage is more than welcome to correct me, as I don't want to disseminate bad information. Anyway, there is nothing wrong with leaving your files in wave form and burning a regular audio cd if you desire. Most players play burnt audio cd's and it might not be a priority for you to acquire an mp3 player. You will be limited to around 70-80 minutes of play time with typical audio cds. The mp3 format is also just a typical folder structure that you might see on a computer. Here's the good, the bad, and the ugly. The good is that you can group your files in different folders to enable more control over your playback options. The bad is that some players (including mine) have limitations on the numbers of files you can have, the number of folders you can have, and the number of files you can have in each folder. Still with these limitations it is well worth it for me to go with mp3's. Oh yeah and the ugly ... that's me, I saw myself in the mirror this morning... WOW!!! I'm glad the Lord made my wife to see with her heart instead of her eyes! 4) I then burn the cd with the files that I want in the order that I want. Here's what a typical structure on my cd would look like with mp3's folders: 01-3 04-6 07-9 10-12 13-15 01-15_NR PRE_NR I would have my first three verses in "01-3", the next three in "04-6" and so on. When I listen to the cd I have three options on repeat. I can repeat file, repeat folder, or no repeat at all. So if I'm learning verses 10-12 and concentrating on 11 at the time, I would be in folder"10-12" and have "repeat file" on as I listen to verse #11. After I go over it a while, I could then listen to #12... Then switch to "folder repeat" and review verse #10,11, and 12 over and over. Very handy, and hands free. I've read some of the posts where people like using tapes... Whatever works for you. If you are learning the word and you are comfortably with your method, more power to ya!!! I can understand why someone would not want to invest the time and money into doing it the way I do it. But I will say that it is effective. Also, above you see the "01-15NR" and "PRE-NR" folders... the "NR" stand for "no reference". I typically make two wave files, one with the verse reference and one without. One of my biggest problems has been remembering the reference. I throw the ones I have memorized into these folders and then when I hear them I recall the verse reference and look at the player to see the name of the file (my player also only displays 8 char's so you have to name them abbreviated). The "PRE" means previous; I will dump all verses I have previously memorized in here for review. Also there is free burning software available; I have used "burnatonce" but I'm sure others are available. I'm writing this for the typical non-geek, non-musician so I'm leaving out a lot of details. I will supply as much detail as requested, time permitting. I use a SM-57 mic, sonar software, and a Aardvark Pro-Q10 sound device. This is complete overkill for anyone who is not trying to produce professional recordings. Most computers have sound cards, cd burners, and an inexpensive mic. This will work fine.... again, everyone is different... whatever gets the Word In!!! The "Total Recorder" software mentioned earlier seems to work. Also Windows has it's own wave recorder built in to the operating system. Any details about these matters can be furnished by myself or someone else in the group. I wouldn’t even be opposed to helping with a repository of files, however they would have to be a version that is in the public domain… the KJV and the WEB version come to mind and I’m sure there are others… I've got to get to church so I'll talk at ya’ll later... just remember... 2 Tim 3:16.... I bet you guys all know that one!! In Him, Rusty >Rusty, Very interesting. Can you give a step-by-step description of >how you do the wav file and then convert it to mp3? I would assume >that you could record the narration from Biblegateway.com to a wav file >and then convert to mp3. __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp Sender: RJIVEY77()netscape.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 25, 2005 8:02 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: cd's mp3's recording etc. From: Bible Memory List Sorry for the bad grammer and missing punctuation last night... I was in a hurry, and I think I messed up the spell check. A couple of notes: The directories listed with "NR" in them should have started with "NR", otherwise there are sorting issues. The folders should be named something like this: NR01-15 NR_PREV Also I found some software that appears to do most everything one would need. It's free and you can download it at: http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/ follow the first link that says "click here to install" I haven't completely tested it but I have converted a wav to a mp3, recorded my voice, and did basic editing on the wav. The install will take a while if you don't have a high speed connection. Be patient... if you check more than one component to be installed it will install all of them but will appear as though you should intervene to make it continue.... just let it go on it's own; or possibly check only one component at a time. Praise the Name of the Most High!!! In Him, Rusty __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp Sender: RJIVEY77()netscape.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 25, 2005 8:02 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: RE: cd's mp3's recording etc. From: Bible Memory List Op 23-feb-05 om 20:21 heeft Bible Memory List het volgende geschreven: > For the person who had a lot of travel time and was hearing impaired, > I find that if I use a larger font, it is fairly easy to review in the > car. Of course, I am not in really heavy traffic. It just takes a > quick glance at the card to verify if you are saying the verse > correctly or to get help on one you are memorizing. Please keep safety in mind. We long to meet our Saviour, but let us not take a shortcut :-) Consider taking public transportation if you want to combine visual memorisation techniques with traveling, or stick to audio for those who are able to use that. I know a fellow christian who was arrested for good reason: he was caught reading a book while driving on a highway! There are many good things to do when driving: recalling passages to see if you remember them well enough, brainstorming on how to visualise Bible texts to remember them beter, praying (with your eyes open). But we should never let our zeal endanger ourselves and others. Terry Sender: terry()discovery.nl ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 25, 2005 8:02 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: cd's mp3's recording etc. From: Bible Memory List Sorry for the bad grammer and missing punctuation last night... I was in a hurry, and I think I messed up the spell check. A couple of notes: The directories listed with "NR" in them should have started with "NR", otherwise there are sorting issues. The folders should be named something like this: NR01-15 NR_PREV Also I found some software that appears to do most everything one would need. It's free and you can download it at: http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/ follow the first link that says "click here to install" I haven't completely tested it but I have converted a wav to a mp3, recorded my voice, and did basic editing on the wav. The install will take a while if you don't have a high speed connection. Be patient... if you check more than one component to be installed it will install all of them but will appear as though you should intervene to make it continue.... just let it go on it's own; or possibly check only one component at a time. Praise the Name of the Most High!!! In Him, Rusty __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp Sender: RJIVEY77()netscape.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 25, 2005 8:02 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: RE: cd's mp3's recording etc. From: Bible Memory List Op 23-feb-05 om 20:21 heeft Bible Memory List het volgende geschreven: > For the person who had a lot of travel time and was hearing impaired, > I find that if I use a larger font, it is fairly easy to review in the > car. Of course, I am not in really heavy traffic. It just takes a > quick glance at the card to verify if you are saying the verse > correctly or to get help on one you are memorizing. Please keep safety in mind. We long to meet our Saviour, but let us not take a shortcut :-) Consider taking public transportation if you want to combine visual memorisation techniques with traveling, or stick to audio for those who are able to use that. I know a fellow christian who was arrested for good reason: he was caught reading a book while driving on a highway! There are many good things to do when driving: recalling passages to see if you remember them well enough, brainstorming on how to visualise Bible texts to remember them beter, praying (with your eyes open). But we should never let our zeal endanger ourselves and others. Terry Sender: terry()discovery.nl ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 28, 2005 2:52 PM Subject: BibleMem: Scripture Memorization From: Bible Memory List Good Morning (or afternoon) At this point there are 329 active members on the Biblememory Discussion List. However, since the list was restarted from its five month period of inactivity there have been posts 33 different members. This list is now in its 8th year. Over the years I have noticed a trend repeat itself again and again. A few people place messages on the list and there is a flurry of activity for a week or so then nothing for a couple of weeks or more. The purpose of the list is to have an slow, ongoing, continuing, wide-area discussion on the topic of Scripture Memorization. If it is possible I would like to see more members participate in the conversation and to have shorter and fewer periods of inactivity. Of course I do not want to see all 329 members talk at once, but I think that there are members who never post to the list who have things they could share or questions they could ask. Stephen Simpson List Moderator Sender: biblememory()memoryverses.org ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: February 28, 2005 2:52 PM Subject: BibleMem: Scripture Memorization From: Bible Memory List Good Morning (or afternoon) At this point there are 329 active members on the Biblememory Discussion List. However, since the list was restarted from its five month period of inactivity there have been posts 33 different members. This list is now in its 8th year. Over the years I have noticed a trend repeat itself again and again. A few people place messages on the list and there is a flurry of activity for a week or so then nothing for a couple of weeks or more. The purpose of the list is to have an slow, ongoing, continuing, wide-area discussion on the topic of Scripture Memorization. If it is possible I would like to see more members participate in the conversation and to have shorter and fewer periods of inactivity. Of course I do not want to see all 329 members talk at once, but I think that there are members who never post to the list who have things they could share or questions they could ask. Stephen Simpson List Moderator Sender: biblememory()memoryverses.org ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ===============================================================================