Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:48 PM Subject: Re: accountability From: Doug Maxham Sean, I would like to suggest we join in some form of accountability if you have not yet had any takers your own age. I want to get back into a steady habit of memorizing and meditating on God's word. I personally feel age is irrelevant as long as we are of "one mind and one spirit" in this task. My Scripture Memory Testimony: When I was 24 I began a strong scripture memory program using the Navigator's Topical Memory System. Being that I was in the Nav College ministry at Oklahoma State University helped with the accountability quite a bit. I added probably another 100 verses over the following 26 years (a far cry from the two-verse a week goal I started with). My successes were all related to submission to the Spirit in the fellowship of accountability around the Word of God. My failures and lack of review during those vast dry spells of no scripture memory and little meditation sprung from times when I thought "I knew enough to get by" and times when I had no accountability. Though I am 50, married, with a 7 year-old daughter (married at 38; Abby didn't come along till 5 years later), I think when it comes to scripture memory and the attendant meditation for it to be worthwhile, we would make a fine team. Now mind you, I promise not to come to you seeking child-rearing advise or marital counseling (yes, there is sex after 50 ;-), but for accountability in this task, our desire alone makes us well matched. What say ye? Faith, hope and love, Doug ><> >From: Sean >Reply-To: biblememmemoryverses.org >To: biblememmemoryverses.org >Subject: Re: accountability >Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:09:20 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.34]) by mc7-f21.law1.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Fri, 27 Dec 2002 07:08:27 -0800 >Received: from memoryverses.org ([64.231.118.148]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021227150825.GJNS12997.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.netmemoryverses.org>; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:08:25 -0500 >Message-ID: <36A54892.586F8A95istar.ca> >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) >Return-Path: biblememmemoryverses.org >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Dec 2002 15:08:27.0609 (UTC) FILETIME=[CF2B9490:01C2ADB9] > >Hi Jim, i need an accountability partner too but i'm 22 years old and >single...haha....probably it's better to get someone around our age. >BTW, anyone around my age that wants to be my partner??? > >Sean > >Jim & LuAnn O'Connell wrote: > > >I have been on this list for awhile and have found it encouraging. I > >am >43 > >years old, married with 5 children, work as a registered nurse, and > >live >in > >north central Pennsylvania. I am interested in being mutually accountable > >with someone on this list regarding memorizing. If anyone feels led > >to persue this, please let me know. > >-- > >Grace be with you. > > > >Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- >======================================================================= >=== = >================================================= >"Let the children be taught that as they open their minds to pure, >loving thoughts and do loving and helpful deeds, they are clothing >themselves with >======================================================================= >=== = >================================================= =============================================================================== Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:48 PM Subject: Re: your mail (memorizing in a vacuum) From: Doug Maxham I have read this thread with interest. As a child of God and co-heirs with Christ there are two vital points we must NOT loose sight of: 1. The POSITIVE: He who began a good work in you will bring it to completion -- this transformation began on the day of your salvation; it is a process that continues until God carries it through to completion on the day of Christ Jesus. What is God's goal for you NOW? That you be 'conformed to the image of Christ'; that you develop the 'mind of Christ' and that in all that you do you do it to glorify Him. This is not possible for our natural man; we can NOT do this in the flesh. We MUST be 'transformed by the renewing of our minds, so that we may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect'. 2. The NEGATIVE: Satan wants to destroy you. He fights tooth and nail every step of the way. If he can't keep you from the cross and salvation; then he will try to keep you mired in infancy or destroy your testimony and make you a spiritual cripple. One technique Satan uses so successfully today is to trick us into 'memorizing in a vacuum'. If you have been plagued by this deception you are not alone. The GOOD NEWS is that Satan can only build these mental 'strongholds and lofty thoughts raised up against the knowledge of God' UNTIL you make a LORDSHIP decision which may need to be as frequent as thought by thought minute by minute and 'take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ'. You ABSOLUTELY CANNOT do this in the flesh -- you'll put your self in the psych ward trying. This is a maturing process that comes by prayerful meditation on God's Word and seeking the daily empowerment of the Holy Spirit. To the extent that I have done this, I have found that God has used the scripture I have memorized AND meditated upon in mighty and wonderful ways. The best example, is when I have one of those selfish moments and do something to offend or anger my wife. The moment angry words come out of her mouth (justified or not), I need to make a split decision: Am I going to submit to the spirit? Or am I going to respond the way I-me-myself feels like responding? When I remain silent for a second or 2 and immediately shoot up one of those "arrow prayers", "Lord, help me have the mind of Christ and respond to her as Jesus would?" I have NEVER, NOT ONCE been dissappointed with God's solution; with the verse or scriptural principal that the Holy Spirit brings to mind. And the wives out there will verify that my promptings are from God, for my first response is not to 'solve the problem' but to comfort and reassure. Well, gotta run the main problem is missing the point of memorizing scripture. The point is to 'write it on our hearts' that we might avoid sin. How do we do that? Only by MEDITATING on the word. Without MEDITATION (look it up to make sure you really know what it means along with RUMINATION) scripture memory usually becomes a useless exercise of the Pharisees. I'll write tonite on some meditation techniques that have work well for me. In His service, Doug MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. =============================================================================== Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:48 PM Subject: Re: Relating memorized Scripture to Life, was/Re: Fwd: From: I would say that you have been very accuate here and yet, has not God himself promised to all who ask for wisdom that he will give him wisdom? i would continue to memorize with that thought in mind and be open to god's leading you in whatever direction he sould have you take. I pray this prayer daily and also that God will acomplish ins will in my life. The problem is right now, long passages are unthinkable for me as I am only barely having time to read and pray and write a very little bit in a journal which I also find helps. Hope you get something out of this. The scriptures always come to mind more easily if I memorize "their address" (wher they live in the livinhg Word both at the beginning and at the end, also. But God will answer your prayers as he has promised. He will alsays give wisdom to thiose who ask. So don't let Satan get the better of you by making you think you can't do it. Help from another who is having success does help a lot. I don't know whether the Old Bible Memory Association still exists but thery were wonderful for me when i was young. Marie Harrington In a message dated 12/24/2002 12:11:29 PM Central Standard Time, ccpricebellsouth.net writes: > Subj: Relating memorized Scripture to Life, was/Re: Fwd: > Date: 12/24/2002 12:11:29 PM Central Standard Time > From: HREF="mailto:ccpricebellsouth.net">ccpricebellsouth.net > Reply-to: biblememmemoryverses.org > To: biblememmemoryverses.org > Sent from the Internet > > > > Warren, > > In spite of the fact that I'm so far behind, I'm also addressing this > back to the list. (I hope it goes through from my main address. I've > been MEANING to switch my subscription to this address, but I don't > know > how.) > > Especially in the beginning stages of Scripture memorization, and > especially when one is only memorizing 1- or 2-verse passages at a > time, it may be difficult for some folks to relate what they're > studying to "everyday life". (This would especially apply to > memorization assignments for doctrinal/theological courses such as > CDLF's 1-year course based on Louis Berkhof's _Summary of Christian > Doctrine_.) Most topical courses such as those published by The > Navigators deal with basic Christian doctrine including the simple > gospel, and beginning truths for growing Christians. Some of the > passages, such as Galatians 2:20, may seem too "deep" or > "other-worldly" to apply immediately to the Monday-morning > workplace... Although I think that even these "deep" passages can be > applied, perhaps after discussion among the brethren in a small group, > or with a Christian friend over lunch. > > The denominational tradition behind the interdenominational seminary I > attended several years ago had a history of encouraging CHILDREN to > memorize the Westminster Shorter Catechism and the Scriptures related > to it. Some of this was "doctrinal", but the Ten Commandments, the > Sermon on the Mount, Psalm 1, and the passages relating to the basic > Gospel were --in my humble opinion-- a pretty good place to start > memorizing. Looking at a workplace temptation to liberate some of my > employer's supplies could be answered by Gal.2:20, but "Thou shalt not > steal" applies very specifically. > > Sometimes (actually, pretty often) it's helpful to see how somebody > else has "unpacked" a section of Scripture. "The unfolding of Your > words gives light; it gives understanding to the simple." (Ps 119:130 > NASB-U) This would include listening to our pastor preaching and > applying the Word (if that's what s/he does...), a S-school teacher or > classmate, somebody in our small group, or even a child who's just > beginning to explore the Scriptures. In a discussion-study of a > section of Scripture, the QUESTIONS raised and observations made by > somebody completely new to the Bible can be of GREAT value! Sometimes > we can be blessed by reading Christian books, including "devotional" > books, to see how other folks have understood and applied the > Scriptures. (I've edited in a link at the bottom of this post to the > etext of a short devotional booklet I wrote some time ago. I pray that > it'll bless somebody.) The process of taking in, understanding, and > applying the Scriptures in our own life is NOT just an INTELLECTUAL > exercise that should be pursued SOLO-ONLY (though I believe God makes > special provision for believers in unusual circumstances). We NEED the > in-the-Body give-and-take, because other folks will have some of the > insights I'd miss by myself and which I NEED. (See Colossians 3:16 > &context.) Warren, _you_ remember our college days when many of the > Christians we knew had a highly individualized "me and Jesus:'personal > relationship'" (_alone_) mentality, completely overlooking the need of > a Christian believer for other believers and maybe not even mentioning > our need for the Church. > > All that builds up to say THIS: Ephesians 4 mentions --among other > things-- the ministry of pastor and teacher. I won't open the can of > controversies here, but the point is that Christians OFTEN benefit > from having the Word properly ministered to them by somebody who > actually knows something about the Word. The "Berean attitude" is > always necessary, examining the Scriptures constantly to verify > whatever's taught (Acts 17:11), but OFTEN when we're "in a rut", we > can get out of the rut much more easily with a tow-cable from somebody > else (1Thess 5:12-28). > > As always, when interacting with the Scriptures, we need to operate in > an atmosphere of prayer, trust, and the committment to obey God in the > matters he points out to us by the Word and the Spirit (1Thess > 5:16-22; John 7:17). If we're holding ourselves aloof from Christians > or if we're holding back from Him some area of our lives (or a > cherished sin), then the "insights" we want will probably stop short > back at the point of the repentance we KNOW we need. > > I remember seeing the question included in the quotes below when it > came through the list, but I don't think that the response I would > have made at that time would have given much grace. One quick response > would be "keep taking in the Scriptures and seeking to understand and > apply God's Word", which would be TRUE, but probably frustrating to > the original question-asker. I know of no "fast formula" for an > individual to suddenly begin to receive "insights" on how to "apply" > Scripture, other than to start out with the assumption that the > Scriptures are TRUE and that they mean what they say. It is because of > our own sinfulness that we fail to take the Scriptures at face value. > The biggest example is the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5 - 7) with > which most folks with any church background are familiar. The > familiarity itself with those pretty words and the phrases that have > invaded most world-cultures can be an obstacle to paying attention to > what the words actually MEAN. Perhaps reading in an unfamiliar > translation, or --if possible-- a different language, would help an > over-familiar reader to see that these few pages go against every > natural inclination that still lives in our flesh! If we could > "impersonate" a fresh pair of eyes, we would be absolutely scandalized > by these unreasonable words of Jesus (and perhaps driven to explore > the implications of Galatians 2:20). > > After that probably-too-nebulous ranting, the only thing I know to say > to Friend Fitzwilliam is to "stay in the Race, fixing our eyes on > Jesus" (Heb 12:1-3 &f.), and FIND the means of grace that God has > provided for you. ...and may He bless you very richly indeed. > > --Clyde > > > Wshort7832aol.com wrote: > >Clyde, Ralph, > > > >Do either of you have any ideas on this subject of how to make a > >topical memorization system more applicable to day-to-day living? > > > >Warren > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >--- > > > >From: > >"Fitzwilliam Darcy" > >Date: > >Mon, 02 Dec 2002 15:53:59 -0500 > >To: > >biblememmemoryverses.org > > > > > >I am the failed scripture memory poster child. My memory is just > >fine, > and > >I > >can memorize on a regular basis. But it is, for the most part, not really > >helping me. > > > >My intent: I desire is to weave the word of God into the very fabric > >of > my > >life to permeate my being. To have his word penetrate the darkest corners > >of > >my mind, illuminating the secret places: healing, revealing, confronting, > >and forgiving. > > > >I think that memorizing and meditating on scripture would help with > >this intention. > > > >The problem is the verses are memorized in a vacuum. The techniques > >are > all > >fine, but once you know the verses they are not memorized in such a > >way that they are useful (in my experience). > > > >Perhaps a topical system would be of value? Though I memorized the > >Navigators Topical System and found the verses in that same useless > vacuum. > >The verses were not practical and useful in day-to-day experience. > > > >I am having trouble articulating the problem, but I perhaps some of > >you have found your long lists of memorized verses somewhat > >impractical. Any insights > >would be appreciated. I thank you :) > > > >Fitzwilliam > > > -- > Clyde C. PRICE, Jr. h-678-393-1782, m-678-491-0469 > email: or 11770 Haynes > Bridge Rd., Suite 205 PMB 214, Alpharetta, GA 30004 USA Founder > &President, the Christian Digital Library Foundation > . CDLF is looking for Scribes, Eager Readers, and > other friends to enjoy, distribute, and produce digital Christian > books and other resources to build up the Body of Christ. Vice > President, Parakletos Ministries Inc. . PM > seeks to support the ministries of local churches in building > evangelizing Kingdom-seeking disciples. "To know Christ, and to make > Him known, as the Way, the Truth, and the Life." > ** Featured FREE etext: "SonRise: a 31-Day Devotional for Young People, > by Clyde C. Price, Jr. *** > > > I would say that you have been very accuate here and yet, has not God > himself ]romised to all who ask for wisdom that he will give him > wisdom? i > would continue to memorize with that thought in mind and be open to Hgod's > leading you in whatever direction he sould have you take. I ray this prayer > daily and also that God will acomplish ins will in my life. The > problem is > right now, long passahes are untyhinkable for me as I am only bately having > time to read and pray and write a very little bit in a journal which > I also find helps. Hope you get something out of this. The scriptures alsways > come to mind more easily if I memorize "their address" (wher they live > in the livinhg Word both at the beginning and at the end, also. But > God will answer your prayers as he has promised. He will alsays give > wisdom to thiose who ask. So don't let Satan get the better of you by > making you think you can't do it. Help from another who is having > success does help a > lot. I don't know whether the Old Bible Memory Association still > exists but > thery were wonderful for me when i was young. Marie Harrington > > =============================================================================== Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:31 PM Subject: Proverbs From: David Baldwin I'm memorizing the book of Proverbs. The first nine chapters have gone well (though it has taken me eighteen months) but now that I'm in chapter ten things are a bit different as the remaining twenty-two chapters are made up almost entirely of one verse proverbs that, at least superficially, don't relate to neighboring proverbs. Basically I have two questions: 1) Does anyone know of pegs that have been created to assist in associating verses in Proverbs with their references? E.g., Proverbs 10:7 reads "The memory of the righteous will be a blessing, but the name of the wicked will rot." One popular mnemonic device equates the number 10 with a knife and a plate and the number 7 with a cliff - as in a man looking over the edge of a cliff. Thus I picture a man throwing a plate of rotten food over a cliff to equate the verse with its reference. I've not been concerned with matching verses with references through the first nine chapters but it's evident that I'll need to be through the rest of Proverbs. Coming up with effective mnemonic devices is quite time consuming and I'm hoping someone can shorten my workload by sharing some existing pegs. 2) Does anyone have a good outline of Proverbs from which I can draw a mind map to assist in memory work? Much of Proverbs has no readily evident overall structure, (i.e., one verse follows another without any particular flow) but I suspect there is structure that others have discovered. Thanks in advance for your ideas. David Baldwin =============================================================================== Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:31 PM Subject: Re: Biblemem list administrator's note From: Tay S C Hi Stephen, Your concept of memorising as an aid to really focusing on the word and allowing it to renew our minds rather than as an end in itself is really helpful.This note is a real encouragement to those of us struggling with limited time and mental capacity! Thanks! >From: "Stephen Simpson" >Reply-To: biblememmemoryverses.org >To: biblememmemoryverses.org >Subject: Biblemem list administrator's note >Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:06:44 -0500 > >Greetings, > >My name is Stephen and I am the administrator of the Biblemem E-mail >discussion list. > >If anyone wishes to remove their name from this email list please send >an email to biblememmemoryverses.org and put 'unsubscribe biblemem' in >the subject of the email. > >If you wish to send a message to the list, send it to >biblememmemoryverses.org > >For those who are interested, the complete archives of this discussion >list are available at the following web address: >http://www.memoryverses.org/archives.shtml > >December, 2002 marks the end of the 5th year of this mailing list. >Here are some interesting statistics. > >1998 - 503 messages >1999 - 455 messages >2000 - 164 messages >2001 - 254 messages >2002 - 166 messages > >For a total of 1542 messages. > >Currently there are 350 active members > >As I mentioned above, the complete history of all messages sent to the >list over the last five years are available on the web. They are very >good reading and if you have a couple of hours, you can learn a lot >from the wisdom that others have shared. > >What have I learned from 5 years of reading these posts? I started >this list for two reasons. One, so that I can learn about scripture >memorization and second, so that others can be encouraged to memorize >scripture. I work with computers in my job and I tend to look at >things from a technical point of view. What can I do to make it >easier? What are the tools are tricks? We learned a lot from one >another and I have summarized some of this on this web page: >http://www.scriptureverses.org/tips/ > >I have also written a computer program that uses as much of the >information that I can. You can get it here: >http://www.memoryverses.org/smsw.shtml > >I hope to find time to continue to develop this computer program. > >Yes, we must learn to use our time and our minds correctly. While I >know that this is an oversimplification, most people have trouble >memorizing because there memories are out of shape, just like people >can be physically out of shape, our memories need to be used to be >efficient. And just like physical conditioning is work and involves >some pain, so does learning to use your memory. There are tricks to >make your memory more effective and we ought to learn to use the tools >available. > >Further, it can be shown that it is hard to memorize if you are not >happy or you are emotionally stressed. > >It is also a matter of setting priorities. People have time to do what >they feel is important. > >Scripture memorization is a good think, but if you feel that God does >not want you to do it, then that's what you must do. Everybody needs to >know God's word, memorize some, but most people are not called to >memorize a lot. Pray about it. Never be driven by guilt. > >But there are a couple of other things which I have learned: > >1) While we can learn to manage time, learn memory tricks and such, the >only real trick is being happy with the idea that scripture >memorization takes a lot of time and work and that there is no other >way about it. Your best friend is Review along with his brother and >sister called Review and Review. Actually, we cannot manage time >either. Time always goes by at one second per second. We can however, >learn to manage our selves. > >2) God will not open your memory to effective and joyful scripture >memorization (or for that matter effective and joyful life) unless you >are willing to obey his word. You must put away sin and anger. You >must put away bitterness. You must put away grumbling. You must cast >off unforgivenss. These things and others like it are memory robbers >and joy robbers. If you live in one of these pits seek Godly help from >others. But God is grace, so keep at it. Never give up. > >3) Scripture memorization is not a means to earn anything from God. We >must come to God in recognition of our sin, receive his forgiveness, >and live the rest of our lives in love with HIM because of what Christ >has done for us. He died for us. So we can memorize his word out of a >spirit of joy and praise, because it is the masters word, and never out >of a sense of guilt or obligation. The Bible is God's word and it is >like fine food. > >4) With point three in mind, we will not feel well each day and we will >be busy and we will often be out of sorts, but this is where discipline >comes in. We work at it anyway. > >5) Memorize as much as you can and do not be too easy on yourself. >Make sure that you memorize what you memorize well so you will never >forget it. This said, do not be too hard on yourself either. Rest >when you need to but do not quit. Life is supposed to be fun, never >feel bad about your level of accomplishment. Never be driven by guilt. >Get enough sleep, pray and sing songs to God. We often are discouraged >by failure. The point of scripture memorization is not actually >getting it memorized anyway. This is a good thing, but this is not the >end. Here is a story: There was a man who was hired by a land owner >to fill up a large tank of water. However, he was only given a straw >basket to accomplish the task. He would start out at the river, fill >up the basket and run up to the tank and by the time he got there it >would be empty. By the end of the day he was frustrated and only >filled up the tank a small bit. He went to the man and said the job >could not be done. The man said it was ok, the point was not really to >fill the tank, but to clean the basket. You see, our minds are like >leaky, dirty baskets. God created me with a mind which is not perfect. >My brain leaks. This is not God's primary concern. His concern is the >dirt and filth in my mind. This is what causes problems, not the fact >that it leaks. My goal in life is to come to the end of my life and >hear Him say to me 'well done, good and faithful servant'. The >criteria will be based on Christ likeness and not accomplishment. If >you can memorize the book of Romans and remember it then good, that is something to >strive for with much energy. If you memorize verses everyday, but only >can remember the last one you memorize then that's ok too. As long as >your mind is becoming more like the mind of Christ it does not matter >that your basket leaks. Better off his he who has the mind of Christ >and can't seem to remember the verse he memorized yesterday because it >was displaced by what he did today than he who has the whole Bible >memorized and has not the mind of Christ. See Corinthians 13. > >Blessings and a prosperous new year to you all, > >(Hey, lets get some chatter going on this list, it has been a little >too >slow) > >Stephen Simpson _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324& DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_addphotos_ 3mf =============================================================================== Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:31 PM Subject: Re: accountability From: Jesse David, What's the 'fast' course on scripture memory? Thanks, Jesse ==== "Things to do" list 1. Everybody complains about dying, but nobody does anything about it. 2. Today, do something about it. 3. Read the Gospel of John. 4. Go to http://www.livingwaters.com 5. Click on "Are you a good person?" --- "David F Browne" wrote: >Hi Jim; > >I'm 58, married and the three kids have left the nest. I pastor a small >Baptist church in rural Australia. Yes I would love to have someone to >be mutually accountable with re scripture memorisation. I have been >doing the 'FAST' course of scripture memorisation for about 18 months >now and have found it very practical and extremely benificial. Yours In >Him DavidB > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jim & LuAnn O'Connell" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 5:13 AM >Subject: accountability > > >> I have been on this list for awhile and have found it encouraging. I >> am >43 >> years old, married with 5 children, work as a registered nurse, and >> live >in >> north central Pennsylvania. I am interested in being mutually >accountable >> with someone on this list regarding memorizing. If anyone feels led >> to persue this, please let me know. >> -- >> Grace be with you. >> >> Jim >> >> >> _____________________________________________________________ Get Your FREE ChristianEmail.com Account -> http://www.botcw.com _____________________________________________________________ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get youyourchoice.com w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag =============================================================================== Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:31 PM Subject: Re: accountability From: Jesse David, What's the 'fast' course on scripture memory? Thanks, Jesse ==== "Things to do" list 1. Everybody complains about dying, but nobody does anything about it. 2. Today, do something about it. 3. Read the Gospel of John. 4. Go to http://www.livingwaters.com 5. Click on "Are you a good person?" --- "David F Browne" wrote: >Hi Jim; > >I'm 58, married and the three kids have left the nest. I pastor a small >Baptist church in rural Australia. Yes I would love to have someone to >be mutually accountable with re scripture memorisation. I have been >doing the 'FAST' course of scripture memorisation for about 18 months >now and have found it very practical and extremely benificial. Yours In >Him DavidB > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jim & LuAnn O'Connell" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 5:13 AM >Subject: accountability > > >> I have been on this list for awhile and have found it encouraging. I >> am >43 >> years old, married with 5 children, work as a registered nurse, and >> live >in >> north central Pennsylvania. I am interested in being mutually >accountable >> with someone on this list regarding memorizing. If anyone feels led >> to persue this, please let me know. >> -- >> Grace be with you. >> >> Jim >> >> >> _____________________________________________________________ Get Your FREE ChristianEmail.com Account -> http://www.botcw.com _____________________________________________________________ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get youyourchoice.com w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag =============================================================================== Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:31 PM Subject: Re: accountability From: What is the FAST course? Don Myers ==================== Hi Jim; > > I'm 58, married and the three kids have left the nest. I pastor a > small Baptist church in rural Australia. Yes I would love to have > someone to be mutually accountable with re scripture memorisation. I > have been doing the 'FAST' course of scripture memorisation for about > 18 months now and have found it very practical and extremely > benificial. Yours In Him DavidB > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim & LuAnn O'Connell" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 5:13 AM > Subject: accountability > > >> I have been on this list for awhile and have found it encouraging. I >> am > 43 >> years old, married with 5 children, work as a registered nurse, and >> live > in >> north central Pennsylvania. I am interested in being mutually > accountable >> with someone on this list regarding memorizing. If anyone feels led >> to persue this, please let me know. >> -- >> Grace be with you. >> >> Jim =============================================================================== Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:31 PM Subject: Re: From: Ruby Ricks Emerson I am working on Romans right now. --- emerson fleury wrote: > hello > I was happy to find this bible memory link.i was > wondering if any one > out there is memorizing the book of Romans? > > Emerson romans 10:17 > > ps northern wisconsin and no snow > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com =============================================================================== Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 2:15 PM Subject: Re: accountability From: David Browne > What is the FAST course? Have a look at http://www.fast.st They have sample programs online. I have done the :- Survival Kit.....Discipileship Kit...Mulitiplication Kit. All $5.00US mailed to you. I have found the Kits wonderfully encouraging and very practical. Regards DavidB ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:30 AM Subject: Re: accountability > What is the FAST course? > > Don Myers > > > ==================== > Hi Jim; > > > > I'm 58, married and the three kids have left the nest. I pastor a > > small Baptist church in rural Australia. Yes I would love to have > > someone to be mutually accountable with re scripture memorisation. I > > have been doing the 'FAST' course of scripture memorisation for > > about 18 months now and have found it very practical and extremely benificial. > > Yours In Him > > DavidB > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim & LuAnn O'Connell" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 5:13 AM > > Subject: accountability > > > > > >> I have been on this list for awhile and have found it encouraging. > >> I am > > 43 > >> years old, married with 5 children, work as a registered nurse, and > >> live > > in > >> north central Pennsylvania. I am interested in being mutually > > accountable > >> with someone on this list regarding memorizing. If anyone feels > >> led to persue this, please let me know. > >> -- > >> Grace be with you. > >> > >> Jim > > > > > =============================================================================== Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 2:15 PM Subject: Re: Relating memorized Scripture to Life, was/Re: Fwd: From: Connie M Giordano This is my first time sending a message here on this list. Even so - I have been so stirred by the different posts telling how others are diligently memorizing the Scriptures. If I may, I would like to share something that my sister just sent me via e-mail. My Brother-in-law is a minister of the Gospel. A while back, he had a stroke which effected the Optic Nerve in his right eye, causing it to go totally blind. Right before Christmas, he started losing sight in his left eye. We are believing God for a Miracle here. The doctors give no hope of recovery or any solution. I appreciate all of your prayers for him at this time. His name is Rick. I said all that to say this - even though he cannot drive or read, he is still preaching and teaching. My sister said that he taught the New Life Class in Church this past Sunday and the Lord really blessed it. Maryann said that she helped Rick in preparing the lesson by looking up verses for him. She was totally amazed at how the Holy Spirit kept bringing to Rick's mind Scriptures that were stored away in his heart that he wasn't aware of. Then Maryann made the statement how important it is that we consume God's Word when we are able for we never know when we will be placed in a situation when we will need to recall it like Rick is now doing. How true her words are! I share them with y'all for I do believe that this list is one of the most important lists on the entire Internet. We may never face blindness for a time like my brother-in-law, but we may face other situations in the near future when we will need to have the Scriptures hidden in our hearts for easy access. I pray that this testimony stirs us all to stop at nothing until we have the entire Bible memorized. God Bless each and every one of you. Have a GLORIOUS DAY in Jesus. Connie =============================================================================== Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 2:15 PM Subject: Howdy! From: Marykins Ok, I'm here! *looks around* Who all is here? Anyone I know? So what do you guys do around here? I'm ready to get started! (grins) Love - Marykins =============================================================================== Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:19 PM Subject: Re: accountability/Romans From: Well it looks like I'm a little late in responding but if you are out there still, Jim, or are in your early 20s and single like me, we might make good partners. There was also another person memorizing Romans that might work for me...I am working on chapter 4 right now and I have 1-3 down doing one verse a day.... thanks Jake =============================================================================== Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:00 AM Subject: Re: accountability From: Sean Hi Doug, Sure, i'd like to start anytime. Here is my short testimony.... In March last year i went to Malacca to attend a 3 day seminar conducted by the FAST people. They were people who were solidly grounded in scripture and had verses packed inside their minds. They gave talks and sermons often quoting scripture out of nowhere not looking at their notes. They also taught us some tips on how to memorize scripture which is to have a verse pack and start with writing your verse on one side of the card and the text on the other side. I found this method to be extremely beneficial as you bring it along wherever you go. But barely few weeks passed, that i thought i lost my verse pack and so i created an electronic version of the Verse pack. Though it's not really a card, but it acts as a repository for all the verses i want to memorize and you can test yourself in the same way as the card. I used Visual Basic to create the program and it's called Verse Manager. I have it up on my website but i'll be putting an updated one soon.....my website is not ready yet too..will be completing it today i hope and i'll tell you guys the address. Off to you Doug. Regards, Sean Doug Maxham wrote: >Sean, > >I would like to suggest we join in some form of accountability if you have >not yet had any takers your own age. I want to get back >into a steady habit of memorizing and meditating on God's word. I >personally feel age is irrelevant as long as we are of "one mind and >one spirit" in this task. > >My Scripture Memory Testimony: > >When I was 24 I began a strong scripture memory program using the >Navigator's Topical Memory System. Being that I was in the Nav College >ministry at Oklahoma State University helped with the accountability >quite a bit. I added probably another 100 verses over the following 26 >years (a far cry from the two-verse a week goal I started with). My >successes were all related to submission to the Spirit in the >fellowship of accountability around the Word of God. My failures and >lack of review during those vast dry spells of no scripture memory and >little meditation sprung from times when I thought "I knew enough to >get by" and times when I had no accountability. > >Though I am 50, married, with a 7 year-old daughter (married at 38; >Abby didn't come along till 5 years later), I think when it comes to >scripture memory and the attendant meditation for it to be worthwhile, >we would make a fine team. > >Now mind you, I promise not to come to you seeking child-rearing advise >or marital counseling (yes, there is sex after 50 ;-), but for >accountability in this task, our desire alone makes us well matched. > >What say ye? > >Faith, hope and love, > >Doug ><> > > > >>From: Sean >>Reply-To: biblememmemoryverses.org >>To: biblememmemoryverses.org >>Subject: Re: accountability >>Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:09:20 -0500 >>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>Received: from tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.34]) by >> >> >mc7-f21.law1.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Fri, 27 >Dec 2002 07:08:27 -0800 > > >>Received: from memoryverses.org ([64.231.118.148]) by >> >> >tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 >201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id ><20021227150825.GJNS12997.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.netmemoryverses.org>; >Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:08:25 -0500 > > >>Message-ID: <36A54892.586F8A95istar.ca> >>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) >>Return-Path: biblememmemoryverses.org >>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Dec 2002 15:08:27.0609 (UTC) >> >> >FILETIME=[CF2B9490:01C2ADB9] > > >>Hi Jim, i need an accountability partner too but i'm 22 years old and >>single...haha....probably it's better to get someone around our age. >>BTW, anyone around my age that wants to be my partner??? >> >>Sean >> >>Jim & LuAnn O'Connell wrote: >> >> >> >>>I have been on this list for awhile and have found it encouraging. I >>>am >>> >>> >>43 >> >> >>>years old, married with 5 children, work as a registered nurse, and >>>live >>> >>> > > > >>in >> >> >>>north central Pennsylvania. I am interested in being mutually >>> >>> >accountable > > >>>with someone on this list regarding memorizing. If anyone feels led >>>to persue this, please let me know. >>>-- >>>Grace be with you. >>> >>>Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>====================================================================== >>=== = >> >> >= =============================================================================== Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:59 AM Subject: Re: Howdy! From: James Hi Marykins, I'm James, I read a lot but don't post much. I do it the old fashioned way, I print what I want to learn. I do it in alternating colors, say black and red. I make four or five copies and place them throughout the house. On the refrigerator, medicine cabinet, night-stand, dashboard, computer. When I can see the scriptures when I close my eyes I'm doing it. When I walk the dog, go grocery shopping, go fishing, spend time in a tree stand, and so forth I recite in my mind. I teach bible at bible study for our church on wednesday nights. For example using Acts 13,14, 15, and Galations, and Timothys all together. I teach little memory tags such as Timothy used Lysterine. Translation Tim came from Lystra. Amos likes oj. Translation in reciting the books of the bible Hosea, Joel , Amos, Obediah, Jonah. There's more things I do but I will let someone else talk now. You see mabey something will work for you that doesn't for me. II Tim 2:4 James >Ok, I'm here! > >*looks around* > >Who all is here? Anyone I know? So what do you guys do around here? I'm >ready to get started! (grins) > >Love - Marykins > > > > > =============================================================================== Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 5:37 PM Subject: re: accountability From: jim cole I am interrested in accountability as well. This is my first time writing and introducing myself. I am 48, married, and living in Montana. I have known the Lord since late teens and memorizing to some extent since. In last two years have felt led of God to tackle larger portions of scripture. Would enjoy relating with the rest of you! In His service, Jim __________________________________________________ =============================================================================== Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 5:37 PM Subject: Re: accountability/Romans From: Jim & LuAnn O'Connell Jake, Thanks for your reply. I did find someone to be accountable with, and I am confident that the Lord will lead you to the right person to be accountable with also. -- Grace be with you. Jim > From: > Reply-To: biblememmemoryverses.org > Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 16:19:07 -0500 > To: biblememmemoryverses.org > Subject: Re: accountability/Romans > > Well it looks like I'm a little late in responding but if you are out there > still, Jim, or are in your early 20s and single like me, we might make good > partners. There was also another person memorizing Romans that might work > for me...I am working on chapter 4 right now and I have 1-3 down doing one > verse a day.... thanks > > Jake > > > > > > > ===============================================================================