Archives for Jul 1998.

Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:42:10 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: RE: Help!
From: "McGuire, Morris E"

I've had that same question on which version to memorize.  I started
many years ago learning the KJV but now I use both the NAS and the new
NLT.   Whichever one you use on a regular basis should be your choice.
As you're reading the Word the Holy Spirit is planting the Word in your
head and eventually as you adopt it into your lifestyle (otherwise known
as 'believing')  it will be in your heart.  This way when you "interact"
with life the Holy Spirit will bring to your memory something you may
have just read that morning and haven't yet had time to memorize.

The emails are picking up and it's good to hear that people are hungry
for only that which satisfies, "The Living Water"  Jn 7:37  and Jn  4

> -----Original Message-----
> From: WWJD220366aol.com [SMTP:WWJD220366aol.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 1998 9:06 AM
> To: biblememoryMyList.net
> Subject: Help!
>
> I really want to get going with my memorization of Scripture but one
> question
> is holding me back. Which Bible version should I memorize?  I've
> narrowed it
> down between the NASB (New American Standard Bible) and the NIV (New
> International) Version.  I've studied the differences between the two
> as
> well
> as other versions like KJV, NKJV, etc. I know this is a matter of
> personal
> preference but I just needed a sounding board--you all.  NASB is known
> for
> it's literal or word-for-word translation of the manuscripts while the
> NIV
> is
> known for it's contemporary, thought-for-thought translation.  I have
> about
> equal access to both, I just need to be convinced on which version I
> should
> commit myself to memorize.  What do you think?  Thanks for any input
> you can
> pass along.
>
>





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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:42:16 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Help!
From:

In a message dated 98-06-29 09:06:19 EDT, you write:

<< I really want to get going with my memorization of Scripture but one
question
is holding me back. Which Bible version should I memorize?  I've narrowed it
down between the NASB (New American Standard Bible) and the NIV (New
International) Version.  I've studied the differences between the two as
well
as >>

Boy are you opening a can of worms on this question.

I would recommend memorizing whichever version you hear the most of. If your
pastor preaches from a particular version or there is a version more
prevelant
in your  church, that is the one you should use.

That way when you hear it recited it will reinforce what you've memorized.
Otherwise, if it is a different translation, the similar wording can be
confusing as you try to mentally recite it with the speaker.

Dean May
Terre Haute, IN




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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:22:57 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: RE: Help!
From: "Thompson, Mark (HT-EX)"

Hello,
     Truthfully, I do not believe that one Bible version is necessarily
superior to another. (Not referring to cult translations such as the version
used by the JWs.)  The word of God is spiritual and when we meditate upon
and memorize God's word, the Holy Spirit will reveal the true meaning of the
scripture and break through any translation  problems.

1Jo:2:26: These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce
you.


1Jo:2:27: But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you,
and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth
you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught
you, ye shall abide in him.

1Co:2:16: For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him?
But we have the mind of Christ.

Joh:14:26: But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will
send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your
remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

     The only advise that I would give is to make sure that you are
memorizing from a "translation" and not a "transliteration".  A
transliteration like the amplified Bible or the Living Bible is not taken
from original manuscripts but they are simply a para phrase of a
translation.

Regards
Mark W. Thompson


> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeanMayaol.com [SMTP:DeanMayaol.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 1998 10:42 PM
> To: biblememoryMyList.net
> Subject: Re: Help!
>
> In a message dated 98-06-29 09:06:19 EDT, you write:
>
> << I really want to get going with my memorization of Scripture but one
> question
> is holding me back. Which Bible version should I memorize?  I've narrowed
> it
> down between the NASB (New American Standard Bible) and the NIV (New
> International) Version.  I've studied the differences between the two as
> well
> as >>
>
> Boy are you opening a can of worms on this question.
>
> I would recommend memorizing whichever version you hear the most of. If
> your
> pastor preaches from a particular version or there is a version more
> prevelant
> in your  church, that is the one you should use.
>
> That way when you hear it recited it will reinforce what you've memorized.
> Otherwise, if it is a different translation, the similar wording can be
> confusing as you try to mentally recite it with the speaker.
>
> Dean May
> Terre Haute, IN
>
>





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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:19:07 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Help!
From: "Michael Jackson"

I agree with Mark that the Holy Spirit can and will work through any
translation.  But for the purpose of memorization, I think some
consideration
should be given to the syntax, the flow and the beauty of the language --
for
practical reasons as well as esthetic.  The King James version is the most
beautiful, in my humble opinion, but old English can be awkward at times.
The
New American Standard seems to strike the right balance for me.  It depends
on
what you are comfortable with.  Just remember that once you make the
decision
you're going to have to live with that choice for a long time.
Mike Jackson
jacksonmgghlaw.com


> Hello,
>      Truthfully, I do not believe that one Bible version is necessarily
> superior to another. (Not referring to cult translations such as the
version
> used by the JWs.)  The word of God is spiritual and when we meditate upon
> and memorize God's word, the Holy Spirit will reveal the true meaning of
the
> scripture and break through any translation  problems.
>
> 1Jo:2:26: These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce
> you.
>
> 1Jo:2:27: But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you,
> and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth
> you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught
> you, ye shall abide in him.
>
> 1Co:2:16: For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct
him?
> But we have the mind of Christ.
>
> Joh:14:26: But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father
will
> send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to
your
> remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
>
>      The only advise that I would give is to make sure that you are
> memorizing from a "translation" and not a "transliteration".  A
> transliteration like the amplified Bible or the Living Bible is not taken
> from original manuscripts but they are simply a para phrase of a
> translation.
>
> Regards
> Mark W. Thompson
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeanMayaol.com [SMTP:DeanMayaol.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 1998 10:42 PM
> > To: biblememoryMyList.net
> > Subject: Re: Help!
> >
> > In a message dated 98-06-29 09:06:19 EDT, you write:
> >
> > << I really want to get going with my memorization of Scripture but one
> > question
> > is holding me back. Which Bible version should I memorize?  I've
narrowed
> > it
> > down between the NASB (New American Standard Bible) and the NIV (New
> > International) Version.  I've studied the differences between the two as
> > well
> > as >>
> >
> > Boy are you opening a can of worms on this question.
> >
> > I would recommend memorizing whichever version you hear the most of. If
> > your
> > pastor preaches from a particular version or there is a version more
> > prevelant
> > in your  church, that is the one you should use.
> >
> > That way when you hear it recited it will reinforce what you've
memorized.
> > Otherwise, if it is a different translation, the similar wording can be
> > confusing as you try to mentally recite it with the speaker.
> >
> > Dean May
> > Terre Haute, IN
> >
> >








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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:19:10 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Finding the Balance?
From: Jack Cook

All,

I am having a struggle that I would like some help with. I believe
memorizing scripture is a very important part of a Christian's
life. I also believe that Bible study, meditating, prayer, devotions
(family and personal) are also important. The problem I am having is
how to find an appropriate balance. I work and then come home
to a family that needs my attention. It is very difficult for me
to balance the various reponsibilities I have has husband, father,
employee, etc. I must confess that I am extremely compulsive
and so balance does not come easy for me.

I would greatly appreciate any suggestions on how to achieve this
balance. I really want to grow as a Christian but feel very
frustrated in my efforts. I would be interested in hearing how others
achieve balance in the area of Christian growth. Any help would be
welcomed.

I hope that this topic is appropriate for this group. My apologies
if it isn't.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Jack Cook

"For the power of paradox opens your eyes and blinds
those who say they can see." - Michael Card





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Sent: Thursday, July 02, 1998 6:19 PM
Subject: RE: Finding the Balance?
From: Scott Clark

Hello Jack:

I have shared your concern with balance in the past an I believe I am
gradually winning the battle. I am an executive account manager,
husband, father of two kids under 8 years old, and a partner in a side
business.

First and foremost, if you want to change something in your life, like
balance, then you will have to change something or things in your life.
This is not double talk. Please also understand that your change will be
a PROCESS, not an event, meaning it will take some time to build the
habit. Also, you will pay a price to accomplish the mastery of your
time. Understanding these things will give you the perseverance to
succeed. OK, so now to what I was taught.

I had to learn to work with a planner or calendar. I have found the
Franklin planner type to work best.  I have learned to schedule time,
about an hour and a half, on Sunday and plan my next week to 10 days. I
break each day into two hour increments. I start by blocking out of the
calendar the time slots that I am unconditionally committed to, like my
job, church, and sleep. Then I follow a priority list of
responsibilities (God, country, family, business, household jobs,
hobbies, etc. ), and schedule activities. Time slots like the noon hour,
and waiting for something, can be used very efficiently sometimes, don't
overlook them.

So the second item in my calendar after my job, church, and sleep is
time with my wife and family. Not everything needs two hours. I can play
with my children for a solid hour and leave them feeling satisfied
having had my full attention, doing the things they want to do. I
schedule time into the planner for my wife with her input. Again the
time commitment depends on the needs of your wife. Is her love language
quality time, conversation, activities, gift giving, affection, acts of
service, etc.? We also schedule a date night once every two weeks or so,
and this does not have to be extravagant, just the two of us - no kids.
Often it's not the length of time that is most important but the
undivided attention that you give during that time. You may not need to
commit time every night either, but when you schedule your family into
your planner, never, never, break your commitment, it will break their
hearts because they will be looking forward to this time with you.

Now you will see many open time slots available for other activities.
Schedule them in as you like and live to the schedule as best as
possible, do not deviate unless an emergency. This is the hard part and
it will seem very regimented at first but with time you will become the
master of your time and not its slave. You will soon see what activities
have soaked up many hours of your time without providing any benefit.

Also know that you can always do more than you think you can. Let me say
that again, YOU CAN DO MORE. I have learned to reduce my need for sleep
from 8 hours to 6 and still feel just as refreshed. That's an additional
two hours I now have to do things like study the bible. I am no expert,
and a lot of what I learned about time manage and goal setting I found
in Zig Ziglar's book "Over the Top", an awesome book.

Very wordy, but hopefully helpful. Enjoy your day.

Scott.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Cook [SMTP:jcookus.prismtechnologies.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 1998 6:19 PM
To: Bible Memory
Subject: Finding the Balance?

All,

I am having a struggle that I would like some help with. I
believe
memorizing scripture is a very important part of a Christian's
life. I also believe that Bible study, meditating, prayer,
devotions
(family and personal) are also important. The problem I am
having is
how to find an appropriate balance. I work and then come home
to a family that needs my attention. It is very difficult for me
to balance the various reponsibilities I have has husband,
father,
employee, etc. I must confess that I am extremely compulsive
and so balance does not come easy for me.

I would greatly appreciate any suggestions on how to achieve
this
balance. I really want to grow as a Christian but feel very
frustrated in my efforts. I would be interested in hearing how
others
achieve balance in the area of Christian growth. Any help would
be
welcomed.

I hope that this topic is appropriate for this group. My
apologies
if it isn't.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Jack Cook

"For the power of paradox opens your eyes and blinds
those who say they can see." - Michael Card






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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 16:26:16 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Help!
From: miriam

My two cents:

I've been sitting here reading the dilimas of which verses and which
translation.

My opinion

KNOW YOUR AUDIENCE

If I came to you as a non-Christian, wanting to learn,
most of you would have me read John-the shortest and most complete!!!

You would also tell me to go with a version that's
easy to understand and makes sense (most would go with NIV or something
as easy)

Why not start there???



Michael Jackson wrote:
>
> I agree with Mark that the Holy Spirit can and will work through any
> translation.  But for the purpose of memorization, I think some
> consideration
> should be given to the syntax, the flow and the beauty of the language --
> for
> practical reasons as well as esthetic.  The King James version is the most
> beautiful, in my humble opinion, but old English can be awkward at times.
> The
> New American Standard seems to strike the right balance for me.  It
depends
> on
> what you are comfortable with.  Just remember that once you make the
> decision
> you're going to have to live with that choice for a long time.
> Mike Jackson
> jacksonmgghlaw.com
>
> > Hello,
> >      Truthfully, I do not believe that one Bible version is necessarily
> > superior to another. (Not referring to cult translations such as the
> version
> > used by the JWs.)  The word of God is spiritual and when we meditate
upon
> > and memorize God's word, the Holy Spirit will reveal the true meaning of
> the
> > scripture and break through any translation  problems.
> >
> > 1Jo:2:26: These things have I written unto you concerning them that
seduce
> > you.
> >
> > 1Jo:2:27: But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in
you,
> > and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing
teacheth
> > you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath
taught
> > you, ye shall abide in him.
> >
> > 1Co:2:16: For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct
> him?
> > But we have the mind of Christ.
> >
> > Joh:14:26: But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father
> will
> > send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to
> your
> > remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
> >
> >      The only advise that I would give is to make sure that you are
> > memorizing from a "translation" and not a "transliteration".  A
> > transliteration like the amplified Bible or the Living Bible is not
taken
> > from original manuscripts but they are simply a para phrase of a
> > translation.
> >
> > Regards
> > Mark W. Thompson
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: DeanMayaol.com [SMTP:DeanMayaol.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 1998 10:42 PM
> > > To: biblememoryMyList.net
> > > Subject: Re: Help!
> > >
> > > In a message dated 98-06-29 09:06:19 EDT, you write:
> > >
> > > << I really want to get going with my memorization of Scripture but
one
> > > question
> > > is holding me back. Which Bible version should I memorize?  I've
> narrowed
> > > it
> > > down between the NASB (New American Standard Bible) and the NIV (New
> > > International) Version.  I've studied the differences between the two
as
> > > well
> > > as >>
> > >
> > > Boy are you opening a can of worms on this question.
> > >
> > > I would recommend memorizing whichever version you hear the most of.
If
> > > your
> > > pastor preaches from a particular version or there is a version more
> > > prevelant
> > > in your  church, that is the one you should use.
> > >
> > > That way when you hear it recited it will reinforce what you've
> memorized.
> > > Otherwise, if it is a different translation, the similar wording can
be
> > > confusing as you try to mentally recite it with the speaker.
> > >
> > > Dean May
> > > Terre Haute, IN
> > >
> > >

--
   In His Grace
+ + + Miriam + + +
http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Cottage/1795
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/9743





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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 16:26:17 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Finding the Balance?
From:

Jack,

I'm a lurker & haven't responded to anyone in quite some time.  Something to
do with that balance thing.  Where to I place my emphasis. :-)

I'd like to point out that we spend an awful lot of time wasting time,
driving, etc.  So, where are your dead times?  While in the car (I drive
thirty minutes to, and 30 min. from every day).  Do you run to keep up your
health?  These are two very good times to actually use for memorizing.  They
both require minimum amount of concentration (usually) which allows you to
"glance" at a scripture memory card, and recite, recite, recite.  That's how
I
have memorized almost all the scripture I've picked up.

Another thing here, which actually fits into the balance thing even better,
is
having family memorization.  This is what we do.  Every morning for
breakfast,
as I'm getting ready to leave, we all (at 6:30 a.m.) our memory verses (my
wife & I do the same texts).  Then in the evening, at supper, we recite our
texts again.  This "builds" a common core of experience for future years
(We've been doing this as a family for 6 years.  It's amazing what you can
memorize, as well as growing children).  & this does actually help in giving
attention to your wife & babies.

Finally, after dark, we have family worship (every evening) where I read
thru
a chapter of Holy Scripture, we sing a hymn, and pray.  Beautiful time!
Well
spent time!  & it simply reinforces the intake of scripture we're already
getting.

In fine, having established these three times of the day, have established a
valuable ritual/routine for me, and for my family.  I can't tell you how
many
times I've just had to quit work so I could go home to spend these times
worshipping with my family.  & how many times I've gone back to work, early
the next morning, a healthier fellow!

Hope it all helps.  I'm sure you'll get many other suggestions.


Michael W.  Philliber
Air Force Health Professions
Consultant (for 1 more year, then
I "retire"); part-time seminary student
at Reformed Theological Seminary-Jackson, Ms;
Ministerial trainee (student "pastor"), and Father of
three (14, 10, 10mos).  Busy guy.  Eh?





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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 16:26:19 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: do we do what we read from the Bible?
From: Liz & Paul McLaughlin

Mr. jack Cook,

I was told many times to stop getting involved with other
people and children lives and just go to church. Go to church
to memorize the passage of the bible, sing hymes, pass the
word of God to non believer.

For years I worked with children. Fund raisng for crippled children,
hungry, crippled children, cancer, child abuse, etc. etc. I spoke of
my story on talk radio, magazines, newspaper. The list goes on and
on.

What I did not understand is why christian people are so much
involved with the church and studying the bible.

I finaly became a christian and went to church after not going to a
church for over 20 years. i could not believe what these people were
doing.

I tell christian people and to those who study the bible to do me
one important thing.

To put those beautiful words from God into action.

Do you know what I seen since 1975 by helping people and children?
I seen many miracles and I was NOT a christian

God preached the words and healed the sickness. Does this tell us
anything. it sure does.

Going to church is not going to save the world or people in the
community. I know, I been at this for many years before i became
a Christian.

I sing hymes, I read the Bible, but I do more than that. I take the
words from the Bible and I put it into action.

I taken 4 people from a church and have them work with me for
6 months and they seen with their own yes of miracles. Now they
are telling other christians of what they witness.

You do the same by helping your children at home. You are bless
with a special gift and I was bless with another kind of gift.

My gift from God is a little bit special. I'm slightly a handicap and
I graduated from high school at the age of 21, Special Education.
I almost died 2 times from horrendous of child abuse.

Many people makes fun at me and my works. I ask them: what you been
doing since 1975?

Do not say to me: Let go and Let God. You see, God worked in me so i can
do HIS peoples work.

http://www.efn.org/~scan

A Christian Magazine story about Paul
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/story5.html

Paul





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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 16:26:18 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Finding the Balance?
From: Drake Mariani

Been there Jack,

This is the primary reason I encourage topical over passage memorization
(though it has tons of merit).

I review all 700 verses in my system regularly. Yet, I only need to spend 5
minutes a day, 5 days a week. Now, along the way, I had a quite time
(meditation), on every verse as I learned one each week. That way, there
was ample time to look for an opportunity to see God use the verse in my
life and I would put a check on the card when I experienced that. Sometimes
it was weeks before it happened due to the content.

My point? Review in itself isn't spiritual. It's a mental exercise, and an
absolutely necessary one. What I wanted, was to not get buried in reviewing
and have no time for contact with the family and to reach my world for
Christ.

Hope this helps,
Warmly,
Drake

At 04:19 PM 7/2/98 -0600, you wrote:
>All,
>
>I am having a struggle that I would like some help with. I believe
>memorizing scripture is a very important part of a Christian's
>life. I also believe that Bible study, meditating, prayer, devotions
>(family and personal) are also important. The problem I am having is
>how to find an appropriate balance. I work and then come home
>to a family that needs my attention. It is very difficult for me
>to balance the various reponsibilities I have has husband, father,
>employee, etc. I must confess that I am extremely compulsive
>and so balance does not come easy for me.
>
>I would greatly appreciate any suggestions on how to achieve this
>balance. I really want to grow as a Christian but feel very
>frustrated in my efforts. I would be interested in hearing how others
>achieve balance in the area of Christian growth. Any help would be
>welcomed.
>
>I hope that this topic is appropriate for this group. My apologies
>if it isn't.
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>Jack Cook
>
>"For the power of paradox opens your eyes and blinds
>those who say they can see." - Michael Card
>
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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 16:26:22 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Finding the Balance?
From: Gene Whitcher


>I would greatly appreciate any suggestions on how to achieve this
>balance. I really want to grow as a Christian but feel very
>frustrated in my efforts. I would be interested in hearing how others
>achieve balance in the area of Christian growth. Any help would be
>welcomed.

>----------------------------------------------------------------
>Jack Cook

Jack, the crux of the bible is receiving the "love of the truth".

2 Th 2:10  And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that
perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be
saved

God so loved he gave. Love wants the best for the loved ones.

Memorization of many verses will be of little value if you do not show love
and interest in your family and your other priorities.

How long does it take to read one chapter? Or, remember one verse?

Gene

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Gene Whitcher
Psa 119:165  Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall
offend them.  www.spiritman.org





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Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 12:35:54 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Help!
From:ew C Smith)


miriam  writes:

>If I came to you as a non-Christian, wanting to learn,
>most of you would have me read John-the shortest and most complete!!!

When I encourage non-Christians to read the Bible, I have them start with
the Gospel of Mark - it's shorter and easier.

A.C. Smith

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Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 12:36:00 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Thoughts on memorizing Scripture
From: "Anne S"

Hello all,
Been reading messages for a few days to get the sense of the group.   What
helpful discussions!
(Thanks to Mark Thompson for sending along via email his lists of most
useful passages for evangelism.)

By way of introduction, I became a Christian in high school but drifted in
college and years afterwards.    It's been 16 months now back following the
Lord.

I came upon the discipline of memorization without conscious planning; seems
like some leading there from the Spirit.   I've been blessed with a church
that is really grounding me the Bible but no one there specifically directed
me towards this practice.   Once I started memorizing, about six months ago,
I was excited at the effects in my life and began to talk about in it our
small study groups.   Then I discovered that the older women who seem (to my
inexperienced eyes) to be most committed Christians all memorize Scripture!
It was a delight to talk with them about it!   One woman's point hit home:
once we've hidden God's word in our hearts, the Holy Spirit can and will use
those verses to teach us and lead us.

What I've been doing is studying various books of the Bible, one by one, and
when I come across verses or passages that seem "to resonate", I write them
on an index card and carry them around with me for a week or so.   I pull
them out at traffic lights or break time and review.  Time to time, I run
through the stack of cards to review old passages.

So, the memorization fits in with more in-depth study and, with God's
blessing, is often part of meditation, too.

In the last 18 months, there's been a lot of difficult changes to be made in
my life to follow the Lord's way.   In times of darkness, reviewing these
Scriptures makes a difference!

Thanks for this list!

Anne







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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 23:36:32 -0500
Subject: Frequency of biblememory digests
From: James Brooks Truitt

Hi,

I just subscribed to the discussion list yesterday and I was wondering how
often you send out the Bible memory digests.  I'm really looking forward to
reading them.

Thanks alot!

Brooks Truitt






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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 15:04:22 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Introduction
From: "Lonnie Clardy"

My name is Lonnie and I have been a believer for about the last 5 years.  I
have been interested in memorizing scripture for about the last 2 years. I
have the desire to memorize as much scripture as I possibly can and I look
forward to learning from all of you techniques that will help me in doing
that, all to the glory of our awesome God.

lonnie
lonniecntgi.com





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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 06:57:24 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Introduction
From: Gene Whitcher

At 03:04 PM 7/9/98 -0600, you wrote:
>My name is Lonnie and I have been a believer for about the last 5 years.  I
>have been interested in memorizing scripture for about the last 2 years. I
>have the desire to memorize as much scripture as I possibly can and I look
>forward to learning from all of you techniques that will help me in doing
>that, all to the glory of our awesome God.
>
>lonnie
>lonniecntgi.com
>
Welcome, Lonnie. If I may, I like Psa 91 as a great place to start.

Micah 6:8 is great. And Isa 50:4.

Good hunting.

Gene

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Gene Whitcher
Psa 119:165  Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall
offend them.  www.spiritman.org





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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 06:57:27 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Finding the Balance
From: Jack Cook

To all who responded,

I have just gotten back off of vacation and have
read all the many responses. Thanks so much for
the kind, thoughtful help. I can't tell you how
much it feels good to know that there are others
out there that share my concern/burden and want
to help. Thanks again.

- Jack
--
----------------------------------------------------------------
Jack Cook

"For the power of paradox opens your eyes and blinds
those who say they can see." - Michael Card




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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:22:30 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Good one
From: Gene Whitcher


Isa 54:17  No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every
tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is
the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me,
saith the LORD.

Gene

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Gene Whitcher................Bring your friends....Tell your neighbors:
Psa 119:165  Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall
offend them.  www.spiritman.org   To subscribe to spiritman-list send
an empty message to:  Eph6:12





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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:22:40 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Good One
From: Drake Mariani

Ah,
nostalgia.

That (Jeremiah 33:3) was the first verse I ever memorized in Mar 1964 when
I was saved (at 22). I've done everything there is wrong since then in
memorizing Scripture, except one.

QUIT! 

PTL!
Drake

Don't you love this...
PORTRAIT OF AN ACHEIVER

Failed in Business - Bankruptcy, 1831
Defeated for Legislature, 1832
Sweetheart/Fiancee Dies, 1835
Nervous Breakdown, 1836
Defeated in Election, 1836
Defeated for U.S. Congress, 1843
Defeated again for U.S. Congress, 1846
Defeated once again for U.S. Congress, 1848
Defeated for U.S. Senate, 1855
Defeated for U.S. Vice President, 1856
Defeated again for U.S. Senate, 1858
ABRAHAM LINCLON - Elected President of the USA 1860

You cannot fail... unless you quit!"


At 08:44 PM 7/15/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Here's a good verse to memorize.
>
>Jer 33:3  Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and
>mighty things, which thou knowest not.
>
>Gene
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Gene Whitcher
>Psa 119:165  Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall
>offend them.  www.spiritman.org   To subscribe to spiritman-list send
>an empty message to:  Eph6:12
>
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===============================================================================

Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:22:37 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Good One
From: Laura

Gene Whitcher wrote:

> Here's a good verse to memorize.
>
> Jer 33:3  Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great
> and
> mighty things, which thou knowest not.

It is a great verse!  When I first heard it, it was introduced as *God's
phone number* (kind of like Pennsylvania6-5000, for those who remember
those days).

I've passed that on to others, too.  One of my favorites!

Blessings,
--Laura







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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:22:36 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Verse for the Day
From: Nancy Mordhorst

Now, here's a creative memory tool!

>>> >  Thought you might like this - just follow the instructions.
>>> >
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>>> >    \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ and a
>>> >    \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ and a
>>> >    \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ and a
>>> >    \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ and a  SOUND
>>> >    /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ and a  SOUND
>>> >    \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ and a  SOUND
>>> >    /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ and a  SOUND
>>> >    \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ and a  SOUND
>>> >    /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ and a  SOUND
>>> >    \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ and a  SOUND
>>> >    /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ and a  SOUND
>>> >    \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ and a  SOUND
>>> >    /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ and a  SOUND
>>> >    \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ and a  SOUND
>>> >    /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ and a  SOUND
>>> >    \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ and a  SOUND
>>> >    /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ and a  SOUND
>>> >    \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ and a
>>> >    \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ and a
>>> >    \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ and a
>>> >    \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ and a
>>> >    \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ and a
>>> >    \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ and a
>>> >    \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ and a
>>> >    /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ and a
>>> >    /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ and a
>>> >    \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ and a
>>> >    \/\/\/\/\/\ and a
>>> >    /\/\/\ and a
>>> >    /\/\ind a
>>> >    /\/\ind
>>> >    /\/\ ind
>>> >    /\/\ i nd
>>> >    /\/\ i n d
>>> >     /\/\ i n d
>>> >      /\/\ i n d
>>> >       /\/\ i n d
>>> >        /\/\ i n d
>>> >         /\/\ i n d
>>> >          /\/\ i n d
>>> >          /V\ i n d
>>> >           M i n d
>>> >            Mi nd
>>> >            Mind
>>> >            Mind
>>> >            Mind
>>> >            Mind
>>> >            Mind
>>> >            Mind
>>> >            Mind
>>> >            Mind
>>> >            Mind
>>> >            Mind
>>> >           Mind
>>> >          Mind
>>> >         Mind
>>> >        Mind
>>> >       Mind
>>> >      Mind
>>> >     Mind
>>> >    Mind
>>> >    ind
>>> >    nd
>>> >    d
>>> >
>>> >    "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear;
>>> >      but of POWER,
>>> >       and of LOVE,
>>> >        and of a SOUND MIND."
>>> >         2 Timothy 1:7
>>> >

>>
>
>
>
>






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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:43:17 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: A Good One
From: Jenn

Hey Drake and Gene...

I love that verse too... it's the first one I memorized too!  And I am
now 22, Drake, lol.

I am going into missions in the Middle East, and the other week I found
one particularily refreshing...

Isaiah 58:11
The LORD will guide you always,
He will satisfy your needs in a sun-scorched land
and strengthen your frame.
You will be like a well-watered garden,
like a spring whose waters never fail.

God bless!
<>< Jenn

To join a list for us younger pups who are on/back from/ heading to the
field, send a blank email to subscribe-genxmissionsfindmail.com ...
Don't KEEP the faith, give it away!!!





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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:43:19 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Another Good One
From: Gene Whitcher


Another goody:

Isa 55:11  So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall
not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and
it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Gene

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Psa 119:165  Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall
offend them.  www.spiritman.org   To subscribe to spiritman-list send
an empty message to:  Eph6:12




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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:43:14 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Verse for the Day
From: Gene Whitcher

At 07:22 PM 7/17/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Now, here's a creative memory tool!
>
>>>> >  Thought you might like this - just follow the instructions.
>>>> >
>>>> >  KEEP YOUR FINGER ON THE DOWN SCROLL BUTTON

>>>> >    "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear;
>>>> >      but of POWER,
>>>> >       and of LOVE,
>>>> >        and of a SOUND MIND."
>>>> >         2 Timothy 1:7

Very innovative and interesting, Nancy. Fascinating!
You put a lot of thought and work into that little project.

Thanks,

Gene

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Gene Whitcher................Bring your friends....Tell your neighbors:
Psa 119:165  Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall
offend them.  www.spiritman.org   To subscribe to spiritman-list send
an empty message to:  Eph6:12




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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:12:25 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: (translations) Help!
From: Joel Peter Anderson


A couple of comments...

1) It doesn't matter - God's word is not bound by the translation.
We are blessed to truly have a wide range of translations.  The first
Bible I really read was the Living Bible, and through the years I've used
the Living, KJV, NASB, NIV, NLT and more with joy and profit.

2) Be consistent.  Though it is useful to compare translations and move
for devotional and study purpose between many version, I would say from my
experience that it is better to stick with one translation for memory.
The translator or translators do establish a rhythm, and have rules
(consciously or unconsciously) that you will absorb; it will aid you in
memory because you'll get used to what "sounds right".   You'll also find
that you either gather resources for that translation, or learn how to
apply your references to it when you compare the translation to others.

My own experience has been focussed on using the KJV, not because I
am any kind of King James Only believer, but because

1) there are tons of resources, cheap or free.  You can
quote at will from KJV and don't have to give any
copyright statements.
(Parson's gives AWAY the QuickVerse KJV!)

2) With Strong's Concordance the KJV gives me easy access to
original languages.

3) It contains cues and clues to the original language
that modern dynamic impact translations do
not.

4) Archaic language IS hard - this adds to the effort
of reading/hearing the text AND helps to push
the memory from short term to long term memory.
(If you are introduced to someone named Shluwiznoskison,
and say his name, and practice it, I guarantee you're
more likely to remember his name when you meet him
again - far more than if his name was, oh, say "Anderson".
(Was it Anderson? PEterson? Johnson?)

5) Archaic language is not just hard, it is meaningful.
Thee/Thou versus Ye/You tells you if the 2nd person
addressed is singular (thee) or plural (you).   This
is great for getting more information out of the
text.


** joel anderson * joelants.umn.edu * mrklingonhotmail.com    **
****   Hegh tI, 'ej ngab tI naH, 'ach reH taHtaH joH'a'ma' mu'****
**"The grass withers, and the flowers fade, but the word of our **
** God stands forever." Isaiah 40.8 NLT** http://umn.edu/~joela **
**http://members.aol.com/JPKlingon/uta: The Universal Translator**






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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:20:51 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: intro
From: Tamara Carman

Sorry this response is so "old" my email is really backed up (only 262
more to go)! Whew!

I'm wondering if Heather could send the url to the page she referred to
below.  Thanks.

Heather-Dawn Small wrote:

> >
> >Hi.  My name is Suzanne Sauls.  I am looking forward to having others
> to
> >learn scriptures with!!!
> >
> >I am married, 21 years.  We have 2 girls 17 and 20.
> >
> >I am a teacher assistant at a local elementary school here in
> >Jacksonville, Florida.
> >ysic, Suzanne
> >
> >
>
> Hi Suzanne:
>
> Welcome to the club.  My name is Heather and I have two kids also.  A
> boy 8 and a girl 15.  I have only been memorizing for a few months now
> but it is really great.  My only problem is consistency.  I have been
> working on the book of Philippians and using an online study guide by
> Warren Doud that I have found to be most helpful and enlightening.
>
> Have you started to memorize as yet?  If not climb on board there is a
> lot of help, support and good information to be had.
>
> God bless
>
> Heather



--
Tamara Carman

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:20:53 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: (translations) Help!
From:

Thank you.  You gave some really good points.





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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:20:48 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Tools for memorizing
From:

Here are some of the tools I use:

I don't have anyone to quote memory verses back to on a regular basis, so I
use one of those little mini-tape recorders for checking to see that I have
the verses down exactly.

Also I use the slide show in Claris Works (probably a feature available in
most word processors these days) to make a sort of computer flash card.
Mostly I use this the way you would use paper flash cards, quoting the verse
just before it flashes on the screen, then checking myself against the
slide.

The basic OnLine Bible is free, and has many translations (notably KJV) and
commentaries, Strongs Lexicons etc.  that go with it that are also free.
(Some translations aren't free because royalties must be paid to the
publishers.) I use the Online Bible to study out the verses I'm learning,
and
keep my notes on it too.

The OnLine Bible also has a wonderful tool called the Bible F key that
allows
you to paste Bible verses into a word processor without first opening the
Bible program.  It comes in very handy for printing up a quick Bible page to
take with me.  You can find it for download on the web.  I don't have the
address handy, but I've looked it up just by doing a search on OnLine Bible.

And then there is the old favorite, flash cards and repetition   If you are
just starting on this, maybe you are wondering just how to start.  I
generally
do one verse a day, or whatever comfortably fits on the card, adding a card
a
day.  I use an old system I learned 20 years ago from someone else.  It has
worked well for me.

This is how I do it: The first day I say a verse 25 X.  (I note this on the
corner of the back of the card.) I peek as often as I need to; a lot in the
beginning and seldom after five days.  The second day I add a new verse,
which
I say 25 X, while saying the verse of the previous day 20X.  The next day I
have 3 verses.  I say the new one 25X, the 2nd one 20X, the 3rd 15X.  You
get
the idea.

After five days of saying a verse (which is a total of 75 X), I review the
verse once a day for a month, then once a week for some months.

I used to do lots of individual verses rather than books.  Now I'm more into
books.  This system has worked well with both.  The difference is that when
I
go through my cards for individual verses, I say all of one card's
repetitions
at one time, then go on to the next card.  When I do a book, I first go
through  the whole book in order until I get to my last five cards, which
need
more repetition.  Then I repeat all five cards in order, dropping the first
card out after repeating all five times.

This method takes me about 30 minutes a day.  I don't make it a law, but a
discipline to do it.  I don't guilt myself out if I miss a day, though I try
not to miss often. I hope I've explained it clearly enough for anyone who
wants to try it.  It seems complicated when I put it on paper, but is quite
easy to use!

Happy memorizing & meditating!

Peg





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