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(MDT) Subject: remove From: regretfully i just can't keep up with the mail. as a farewell message, though, i'd like to add a word of encouragement to you all. whatever method you use to be in the Word, to fill your soul with the Word, planting it in your heart, fixing your mind on our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, through the Word both Old and New Testaments, keep on with it! some of you may be overwhelmed by all the methods and details that others find helpful. do what works for you. repetition out loud with your own voice and lips works for anyone and everyone. (example, pledge of allegiance.) let your goal be to know Jesus, and to be drawn closer to the Father, to know His ways and His heart and His mind, to have "this attitude which was in Christ Jesus." the goal is not to have quantity of verses or the best method or be the fastest and best at memorizing, or the cleverest. all those things may aid us, and thank God truly for anything that comes our way to assist us in knowing Him. but remember the goal of it all is TO KNOW HIM and to be TRANSFORMED by the renewing of our mind. God bless you all. your sis in Christ, ... judy ps will shortly have new email for any who wish to contact me later... askjudygateway.net =============================================================================== Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:33:15 -0600 (MDT) Subject: intro From: Suzanne Sauls Hi. My name is Suzanne Sauls. I am looking forward to having others to learn scriptures with!!! I am married, 21 years. We have 2 girls 17 and 20. I am a teacher assistant at a local elementary school here in Jacksonville, Florida. ysic, Suzanne =============================================================================== Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:33:16 -0600 (MDT) Subject: studying From: One thing that has helped me with memorizing Luke and Acts 1-12 are software programs entitled BBESS (Bible Bowl Electronic Study System) and PETS (Personal Electronic Testing System). They areavailable from the North American Christian Convention for $40 each. If you go to www.biblebowl.com, you should be able to find the catalog from the NACC. This program allows you to test your knowledge by either filling in the blanks, completing the verse, recognition of verses by key words, and by references. Genesis will be available from them in July. Robby Stewart outlettmaol.com (a.k.a. rbobstujuno.com) =============================================================================== Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 06:46:33 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Hello From: "Christopher A. Rothbauer" Hello, everyone. I am a 17 year old male and new to scripture memorization. I am looking forward to discussions in this group. Christopher Rothbauer =============================================================================== Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:10:27 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Pascal? From:ew C Smith) Bob Phillips writes: > I use macBible, and also Wilmington's Guide to the >Bible, as well as Pascal's Pensees to refer to verses that deal with the issues >that >come up in my counseling Bob - I'd like to hear what you think about Pascal; I bought the book several years ago, but put it on a shelf and haven't yet read it. Please tell me about it. Thanks! - Andy _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] =============================================================================== Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:31:56 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Remove From: "Chris Ostermeyer" I would love to stay, but as you all will notice, you haven't seen my name yet! That's because I have been waaaaayyy to busy for my own good. I just can't keep up with the mail that comes through here. So, I will keep praying for you all, and God Bless. =============================================================================== Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:27:03 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Hello From: Nancy Mordhorst I have just joined this list in the last week, and am enjoying the comments and encouragement that is shared. I am a wife and mother of 3 sons, ages 21, 18, and 16, am very active in my church, busy with my family, and work full time. I was challenged at a conference this spring to begin some intensive efforts to commit passages of Scripture to memory. I have begun to memorize the book of James since April. Right now I'm about half way through Chapt. 3. I work on a verse, or short passage nearly every day, and don't move on until I am confident with it. My goal is to have the entire book memorized by the end of the summer. My progress is not particularly fast, but I'm finding if I relax and am not too demanding on myself, I look forward to working on it every day. I am excited and finding wonderful blessing from truly meditating on the Word, day and night. The process is renewing my mind, and filling moments during the day that have been wasted in the past. It simply isn't true that only the young can memorize well. I am finding that the more I memorize, the easier it becomes, and that the discipline as well as the renewing of my mind, is helping me in other areas of my "brain." I would have never thought I could memorize a whole chapter and retain it for long. Thanks for the tip about coding the verses alphabetically, and by phrases. All for Him, Nancy =============================================================================== Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:21:16 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: New Member From: "Amy O'Leary" Shirley, Welcome to the list and to the family of God. February 18, 1997 is a special day for me too. I had my youngest son, Peter, that day. Thanks for your memorization tips. I love the Psalms too. It is great that you are hiding so much of God's word in your heart. Blessings, Amy _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com =============================================================================== Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:21:14 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: New Member From: In a message dated 98-06-25 08:30:33 EDT, you write: << jcookus.prismtechnologies.com (Jack Cook) >> I taught an 8 week class at church once on Bible memory. We took the book of Titus, 46 verses. Several people, who had never done more than a verse or two before, completed the entire book in 8 weeks. It would be a good place to start as it is short enough that it is very doable. If you just do 3-4 verses a week you'll have the whole book done in 3-4 months. An entire book in just 3-4 months! How much did you get done in the last 3-4 months? In the last year? 5 years? After that I would go to Romans. I have found it to be particularly helpful in clearing junk out of the 'ole brain- particularly chapters 6 through 8. But it doesn't really matter all that much what you work on. It really doesn't. And it continues to amaze me how much that statement is true. All scripture is literaly life changing when you memorize and meditate on it this way. It might be good to pick a passage that your pastor is preaching a series on or something your Sunday school class is working on. I did that in Romans. The Sunday school class I was in was studying Romans, just a small section each week. I would memorize that section before class and would have so much more to share during class discussion as God would give insight during the memorization/meditation process. It also gave me motivation and incentive to stay on schedule. Dean May Terre Haute, IN =============================================================================== Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:21:15 -0600 (MDT) Subject: New Member From: Bethany Boothe My name is Bethany Boothe, and I am a new member to biblememory. I look forward to hearing encouraging stories and tips from other Christians who have made Scripture memory a priority. One of my mentors challenged me about 5 years ago to start memorizing Scripture. She and I keep each other accountable for our Scripture memory. As several of you have said, it does make a big difference in meditation when you have first memorized Scripture. The Scripture goes around and around in my mind and I am constantly learning new truths and insights. I have passed information on to my mentor. She would like to join the discussion group too, so you may be hearing from her soon. =============================================================================== Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:21:16 -0600 (MDT) Subject: RE: New Member From: "McGuire, Morris E" Fellow Christians, See notes below: I think your zeal is also wonderful and just wanted to make sure we were all on the same page. All of us are to "study to show ourselves approved unto God, a workman that needs not to be ashamed". This is our commandment from the Lord. Now, when it comes to knowing the right verse at the right time that is not our responsibility. It is our response to His ability. Why was the Holy Spirit given ? To guide us into all Truth and to bring to our remembrance those things He has commanded us. Think about the disciples after Pentecost. The Jewish leaders of that day were amazed and astonished because they realized that these disciples had been with Jesus. They were empowered as He was with the Holy Spirit when it came time to defend ( live ) the Truth. The entire 7th chapter of Acts is Stephen giving a great summation of the history of God's activity with the Jews. And looked what happened when he brought it to a close, they were gritting their teeth they were so mad. (Convicted of sin) So indeed memorize scriptures but that 1st chapter of Psalms says "He that meditates on His word day and night. Not putting it into your head ( an unsaved person can do that ) but meditating on it allows God to take it from your head to your heart where it becomes a part of your life and active. The Divine Nature ). This is the Rom 12:1&2 renewal that will take place so that we prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. Think of our Lord as a Mentor. Someone we want to learn from and to be our resource for all that God ask of us. (Led by the Spirit and not walking after the flesh). In Phil 2:13 God is (at this very moment) at work in you both to will (want to) and do (enablement) of HIS good pleasure. So what is our choice ? Let the indwelling Holy Spirit mold us into the "image of His Son". That is His job so let's turn away from the "sins that so easily besets" and allow God the Holy Spirit to conform us (i.e. chip away everything that doesn't look like Christ). So let Him give you the hunger of what to memorize and meditate on and to be obedient to. Heb 11:6 says that if you and I are not in a "continuous state of dependency on God through diligent faith , then we are not being pleasing to Him. If you displease God It really doesn't matter who you please. And if you please God It really doesn't matter who you displease. I hope that this is not coming on too strong, it's really meant to guide (remind) us that He wants to be in control of our every aspect of life and so yours and my choice should be to let HIM have that relationship with us that shows us perfect love. He will be with us "in the waters" not keep us from the waters (storms). He is a Jealous God and doesn't want other "affections" to distract us from His plan for us. Sorry if I'm too direct. I'm speaking as the Holy Spirit gives me utterance. And I'm sure I need to work on my presentation. The most effective memorization program would be one that you and someone else agreed to be accountable to each other on a regular basis as to memorizing scripture. That accountability factor will motivate you to take the extra step to get it down solid because we know we're going to be tested on it. Otherwise we won't give it the priority it deserves. Thanks for your emails. Isn't God Good ! > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles F. Brown [SMTP:cbrown09snet.net] > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 2:14 PM > To: biblememoryMyList.net > Subject: Re: New Member > > Jack, > > I'm very excited about your zeal to fill your mind with good things. > I've been memorizing Scripture for about 10- years now. I started out > with Psalm chapter one. As I increased my memory muscle, I went on to > memorizing through a book one chapter at a time, not worrying about > coming back to the previous chapter as much as learning the new chapter. > I call this memorizing "through a book." > James in a great book to do this with. One secret that has helped me is > to review the learned Scripture in the early morning and the last thing > before I sleep at night. > I'm currently going through Philippians again, I'm headed toward > Thessalonians next. > > > By the way, I'm also new to this list. > > Charlie > > =============================================================================== Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:05:52 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Help! From: I really want to get going with my memorization of Scripture but one question is holding me back. Which Bible version should I memorize? I've narrowed it down between the NASB (New American Standard Bible) and the NIV (New International) Version. I've studied the differences between the two as well as other versions like KJV, NKJV, etc. I know this is a matter of personal preference but I just needed a sounding board--you all. NASB is known for it's literal or word-for-word translation of the manuscripts while the NIV is known for it's contemporary, thought-for-thought translation. I have about equal access to both, I just need to be convinced on which version I should commit myself to memorize. What do you think? Thanks for any input you can pass along. ===============================================================================