Nothing can separate me from the love of God.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor
pricipalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor
height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us
from
the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.  Romans
8: 38 & 39.

Praise God !

Morning, friends

My thoughts early this morning was around you dear people who
seek answers, help and encouragement for memorizing scripture.

What I believe the answer is following.

Bible memory definitely is a good thing.  We memorize for a season
and we all get interrrupted - we then feel quilty usually for one
reason or another.  I'm 56 and have 'memorized' so many verses
with my Sunday School classes. And on my own and with my
daughter have worked on chapters while doing our walking.  Also
our church has a discipleship program where we 'memorize' about
70 verses.  That's good, that's discipline, that's growth, I like it!

But as I was thinking about it early this morning, I believe that what
we need to accomplish to be spiritually satisfied is realize that the
Bible says to meditate day and night. Taking a verse, going over it
so many times that we have had to capture it's meaning, claim it as
truth, making it ours in our heart.  We should be able to recall it from
time to time and whenever that verse is anytime referred to, we can
say I KNOW that verse - it is one of my verses.  Many times I
cannot recall the reference and sometimes even quote it, but
hearing the verse or coming across that verse in my devotional time
I remember I have claimed it and believed it from my head to my
heart.  Memory work is a big part of that; but the meditation and
believing it is what God is looking for from us.

I love Him more and more each day 'cause He gets sweeter as the
years go by.

Pauline

Greetings,


I just got back from a women's retreat where the speaker has all of
revelation memorized and recited much of it to specially orchestrated
music.  It was wonderful!  I was soooo inspired to memorize a big chunk of
scripture and I am going to start with the gospel of John.  Your web site
was an encouragement to me.


God Bless you!

PS

Subscribe Biblemem

HI! Please tell me more about it. It sure is inspiring. I attended
one of Pastor Jack Hayford's prayer meetings some months back when I went
to LA and a lady also proclaimed part of Revelation. I cannot find
myself doing that unless I call on God to show His power through me!!!!!
I cant even finish a few lines!...Let's encourage each other, ok?

isabel
philippines

Paul Sidman wrote:
Greetings,

I just got back from a women's retreat where the speaker has all of
revelation memorized and recited much of it to specially orchestrated
music. It was wonderful! I was soooo inspired to memorize
a big chunk of
scripture and I am going to start with the gospel of John. Your
web site was an encouragement to me.

God Bless you!

Some excellent verses to memorize and ponder on.

============

> FRUITS
> . The produce of corn.  Deut. 22:9; Psalm 107:37
> . The produce of trees.  Genesis 1:29; Eccles. 2:5
> . CALLED THE.
> . Fruit of the ground.  Genesis 4:3; Jeremiah 7:20
> . Fruit of the earth.  Isaiah 4:2
> . Increase of the land.  Psalm 85:12
> . Given by God.  Acts 14:17
> . Preserved to us by God.  Malachi 3:11
> . REQUIRE.
> . A fruitful land.  Psalm 107:31
> . Rain from heaven.  Psalm 104:13; James 5:18
> . Influence of the sun and moon.  Deut. 33:14
> . Produced in their due seasons.  Matthew 21:41
> . First of, devoted to God.  Deut. 26:2
> . DIVIDED INTO.
> . Hasty or precocious.  Isaiah 28:4
> . Summer fruits.  2 Samuel 16:1
> . New and old.  Song 7:13
> . Goodly.  Jeremiah 11:16
> . Pleasant.  Song 4:16
> . Precious.  Deut. 33:14
> . Evil or bad.  Matthew 7:17
> . To be waited for with patience.  James 5:7
> . Often sent as presents.  Genesis 43:11
> . OFTEN DESTROYED.
> . In God's anger.  Jeremiah 7:20
> . By blight.  Joel 1:12
> . By locusts.  Deut. 28:38-39; Joel 1:4
> . By enemies.  Ezekiel 25:4
> . By drought.  Haggai 1:10
> . ILLUSTRATIVE.
> . Of effects of repentance.  Matthew 3:8
> . Of works of the Spirit.  Galatians 5:22-23; Ephes. 5:9
> . Of doctrines of Christ.  Song 2:3
> . Of good works.  Matthew 7:17-18; Phil. 4:17
> . Of a holy conversation.  Proverbs 12:14; Proverbs 18:20
> . Of praise.  Hebrews 13:15
> . Of the example of the godly.  Proverbs 11:30
> . Of effects of industry.  Proverbs 31:16, 31
> . Of the reward of saints.  Isaiah 3:10
> . Of the reward of the wicked.  Jeremiah 17:9-10
> . Of converts to the church.  Psalm 72:16; John 4:36
> . (Bad) of the conduct and conversation of evil men.  Matthew 12:33

>Hi!  My name is Val, and I just received your e-mail.  It is encouraging
to
hear about someone who has a family of small children, as well as schooling
still being able to take or find the time to memorize scripture.  I, too,
have been memorizing scripture off and on for many, many years (I have been
been a Christian for over 40 years (I'd rather not tell you my age).
Anyway, I have just renewed my interest in memorizing scripture and in fact
teaching a small group at my church on scripture memory.  I am using and
suggesting the simplest of methods of many people.  I can't get into
mneumonics techniques.  I am trying to make it fun for the group (which by
the way is no small group--I have from 14 - 25 meeting on a weekly basis.

I am in the process of re-learning Ephesians 6:10-18, also; now I am going
to see if I can do it in a day.  I had the goal once of memorizing all of
Psalm 119, but as usual, I too, made a great start, but then didn't keep
with it.  I also went through the NTM System, and again, I think I finished
it, but haven't kept those verses up with any review.  I tend to memorize
verses that have meaning for me, but now, I am beginning to me more
consistent.

Well, thanks again for introducing yourself.  The best of everything to you
and your family as you approach your graduation date.

Val

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Harris 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 8:26 PM
Subject: New Introduction


> Howdy!
> My name is Mark Harris, I'm 38 years old, with a wife and 2 boys (8 & 6)
> and 2 girls (3 & 3 mos). I've been a Christian for over 20 years now. And
> the Lord willing I'll be graduating with a ThM from Dallas Theological
> Seminary in May 2000.
>
> Now for my Scripture memory background:
> Years ago I began memorizing Scripture with the Navigator's Topical
Memory
> System. Over time (with frequent starts and stops) I memorized many of
the
> 60 verses, and I added a few personal favorites. But I never achieved the
> satisfaction of "completing" the TMS since I didn't memorize all of the
> verses. I also read a number of memory technique (mneumonics) books,
among
> them Harry Lorayne's book. I applied these techniques mainly to
information
> arising from the texts and not the text itself, such as the order of the
> Bible books (and total number of chapters of each), as well as the
sequence
> of the kings of both Israel and Judah. But review was infrequent, and so
my
> recall of the kings faded away.
>
> Later when I entered seminary I entered a different memorization phase.
In
> learning Hebrew and Greek, memorization was essential to do well in the
> courses. Also a few professors encouraged English Bible memorization
work,
> particularly longer passages such as Romans 6:1-14. Also most
importantly,
> I
> renewed my commitment to personal Bible reading, which I had discarded a
> few
> semesters into seminary because of life's pressures. The renewal of
reading
> and "under the gun" memorization served to boost my confidence, and I saw
> that long passage/chapter/book memorization was actually "possible" for
me
> to do.
>
> So I immediately began memorizing the whole book of Jude in the NIV. But
> then I gave it up and never finished it. Its the same story - you begin a
> good thing, but then work, school, family, and the daily grind of
pressing
> issues eventually crowd it out. However I did attempt to use the
> memorization techniques I had learned earlier, which was a plus.
Afterward
> I
> also began to write down my favorite verses on 3x5 cards to carry around
> with me to memorize.
>
> I continued with school, work, family and particularly personal Bible
> reading and study. I continued to acquire not only more Biblical
knowledge
> but an increasing number of favorite passages. I became concerned over
the
> lack of a review process as well as the "loss" of seminary knowledge from
> earlier courses. I wanted to maintain my knowledge, so I entered into yet
> another phase of memorization.
>
> I began reading more books on memory and books on learning techniques,
such
> as mind maps. I experimented with applying various memorization
techniques
> and methods, learning the things which were effective, and the things
which
> weren't. It was a self-discovery process as much as anything. I
eventually
> streamlined this process into my own simplified memorization "system,"
> which
> is mostly a composite of the sources I've read plus maybe a few new
twists.
> I also continued with my personalized 3x5 card verse memorization which
by
> now included both Hebrew and Greek passages and phrases. Also during this
> time my wife and kids were involved in Awanas, and then last fall I
became
> an Awana leader and have had the pleasure of participating in the
program.
>
> So, with renewed fevor and armed with an effective personal system, I
began
> tackling longer passages with suprising efficiency. I memorized Ephesians
> 6:10-18 in less than one day. That was over 6 months ago, and I have
> retained it since with a few timely reviews. In the past month I
memorized
> Colossians 3 (25 verses) in under 3 days. Now I'm not memorizing 8 verses
> every day - I only average 7-14 new verses a week. Being consistent is
> something different from getting the passage in memory, and also
reviewing
> it effectively is yet again something else. I'll provide more details
later
> if there is interest in these things (this post is already too long!
> Sorry!). But this is basically where I am at the moment in Scripture
> memory.
>
>
> Mark Harris
>
>
>
>

Howdy!
My name is Mark Harris, I'm 38 years old, with a wife and 2 boys (8 & 6)
and 2 girls (3 & 3 mos). I've been a Christian for over 20 years now. And
the Lord willing I'll be graduating with a ThM from Dallas Theological
Seminary in May 2000.

Now for my Scripture memory background:
Years ago I began memorizing Scripture with the Navigator's Topical Memory
System. Over time (with frequent starts and stops) I memorized many of the
60 verses, and I added a few personal favorites. But I never achieved the
satisfaction of "completing" the TMS since I didn't memorize all of the
verses. I also read a number of memory technique (mneumonics) books, among
them Harry Lorayne's book. I applied these techniques mainly to information
arising from the texts and not the text itself, such as the order of the
Bible books (and total number of chapters of each), as well as the sequence
of the kings of both Israel and Judah. But review was infrequent, and so my
recall of the kings faded away.

Later when I entered seminary I entered a different memorization phase. In
learning Hebrew and Greek, memorization was essential to do well in the
courses. Also a few professors encouraged English Bible memorization work,
particularly longer passages such as Romans 6:1-14. Also most importantly,
I
renewed my commitment to personal Bible reading, which I had discarded a
few
semesters into seminary because of life's pressures. The renewal of reading
and "under the gun" memorization served to boost my confidence, and I saw
that long passage/chapter/book memorization was actually "possible" for me
to do.

So I immediately began memorizing the whole book of Jude in the NIV. But
then I gave it up and never finished it. Its the same story - you begin a
good thing, but then work, school, family, and the daily grind of pressing
issues eventually crowd it out. However I did attempt to use the
memorization techniques I had learned earlier, which was a plus. Afterward
I
also began to write down my favorite verses on 3x5 cards to carry around
with me to memorize.

I continued with school, work, family and particularly personal Bible
reading and study. I continued to acquire not only more Biblical knowledge
but an increasing number of favorite passages. I became concerned over the
lack of a review process as well as the "loss" of seminary knowledge from
earlier courses. I wanted to maintain my knowledge, so I entered into yet
another phase of memorization.

I began reading more books on memory and books on learning techniques, such
as mind maps. I experimented with applying various memorization techniques
and methods, learning the things which were effective, and the things which
weren't. It was a self-discovery process as much as anything. I eventually
streamlined this process into my own simplified memorization "system,"
which
is mostly a composite of the sources I've read plus maybe a few new twists.
I also continued with my personalized 3x5 card verse memorization which by
now included both Hebrew and Greek passages and phrases. Also during this
time my wife and kids were involved in Awanas, and then last fall I became
an Awana leader and have had the pleasure of participating in the program.

So, with renewed fevor and armed with an effective personal system, I began
tackling longer passages with suprising efficiency. I memorized Ephesians
6:10-18 in less than one day. That was over 6 months ago, and I have
retained it since with a few timely reviews. In the past month I memorized
Colossians 3 (25 verses) in under 3 days. Now I'm not memorizing 8 verses
every day - I only average 7-14 new verses a week. Being consistent is
something different from getting the passage in memory, and also reviewing
it effectively is yet again something else. I'll provide more details later
if there is interest in these things (this post is already too long!
Sorry!). But this is basically where I am at the moment in Scripture
memory.


Mark Harris

Hi,

My name is Mercy. I came across this emailing list and thought I should
join it.

Looking for ward to encourage and to be encouraged.

God bless,

Mercy

Dear Mark:

Any information of specific memorization techniques would be appreciated.

Thanks for your input.


David Hartz

Mark

> . I'll provide more details later if there is interest in these things

I'm interested :-)

Vikki

Hi Mark,

Neat to hear your story!

You may be interested in reading "The Prof"'s comments he made to me at a
Men's Conference 2 years ago (Howard Hendricks for the rest of you - a
really neat guy.)

These and some ideas regarding Awanas, passage vs topical memorization and
a really neat review system learned from a Navigator friend can all be
found on the Bible Memory by Memlok site:

http://www.memlok.com (home page of over 50 pages)
http://www.memlok.com/faq.html (Awana's, passage vs topical and more)
http://www.memlok.com/recommen.html (neat stories of folks from 2-92)
http://www.memlok.com/pc2printout.html (where the Prof's comment is)

In His Grip,
Drake

At 3/18/2000 05:26 PM, you wrote:
>Howdy!
>My name is Mark Harris, I'm 38 years old, with a wife and 2 boys (8 & 6)
>and 2 girls (3 & 3 mos). I've been a Christian for over 20 years now. And
>the Lord willing I'll be graduating with a ThM from Dallas Theological
>Seminary in May 2000.
>
>Now for my Scripture memory background:
>Years ago I began memorizing Scripture with the Navigator's Topical Memory
>System. Over time (with frequent starts and stops) I memorized many of the
>60 verses, and I added a few personal favorites. But I never achieved the
>satisfaction of "completing" the TMS since I didn't memorize all of the
>verses. I also read a number of memory technique (mneumonics) books, among
>them Harry Lorayne's book. I applied these techniques mainly to
information
>arising from the texts and not the text itself, such as the order of the
>Bible books (and total number of chapters of each), as well as the
sequence
>of the kings of both Israel and Judah. But review was infrequent, and so
my
>recall of the kings faded away.
>
>Later when I entered seminary I entered a different memorization phase. In
>learning Hebrew and Greek, memorization was essential to do well in the
>courses. Also a few professors encouraged English Bible memorization work,
>particularly longer passages such as Romans 6:1-14. Also most importantly,
>I
>renewed my commitment to personal Bible reading, which I had discarded a
>few
>semesters into seminary because of life's pressures. The renewal of
reading
>and "under the gun" memorization served to boost my confidence, and I saw
>that long passage/chapter/book memorization was actually "possible" for me
>to do.
>
>So I immediately began memorizing the whole book of Jude in the NIV. But
>then I gave it up and never finished it. Its the same story - you begin a
>good thing, but then work, school, family, and the daily grind of pressing
>issues eventually crowd it out. However I did attempt to use the
>memorization techniques I had learned earlier, which was a plus. Afterward
>I
>also began to write down my favorite verses on 3x5 cards to carry around
>with me to memorize.
>
>I continued with school, work, family and particularly personal Bible
>reading and study. I continued to acquire not only more Biblical knowledge
>but an increasing number of favorite passages. I became concerned over the
>lack of a review process as well as the "loss" of seminary knowledge from
>earlier courses. I wanted to maintain my knowledge, so I entered into yet
>another phase of memorization.
>
>I began reading more books on memory and books on learning techniques,
such
>as mind maps. I experimented with applying various memorization techniques
>and methods, learning the things which were effective, and the things
which
>weren't. It was a self-discovery process as much as anything. I eventually
>streamlined this process into my own simplified memorization "system,"
>which
>is mostly a composite of the sources I've read plus maybe a few new
twists.
>I also continued with my personalized 3x5 card verse memorization which by
>now included both Hebrew and Greek passages and phrases. Also during this
>time my wife and kids were involved in Awanas, and then last fall I became
>an Awana leader and have had the pleasure of participating in the program.
>
>So, with renewed fevor and armed with an effective personal system, I
began
>tackling longer passages with suprising efficiency. I memorized Ephesians
>6:10-18 in less than one day. That was over 6 months ago, and I have
>retained it since with a few timely reviews. In the past month I memorized
>Colossians 3 (25 verses) in under 3 days. Now I'm not memorizing 8 verses
>every day - I only average 7-14 new verses a week. Being consistent is
>something different from getting the passage in memory, and also reviewing
>it effectively is yet again something else. I'll provide more details
later
>if there is interest in these things (this post is already too long!
>Sorry!). But this is basically where I am at the moment in Scripture
>memory.
>
>
>Mark Harris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Mark,

You mentioned you have researched nmeumonics and memorization extensively.
What book or method have you found to be most helpful?

Thanks,
Angie

From: 
>
> Any information of specific memorization techniques would be appreciated.
>
David,
A while back I memorized Psalm 117 and later taught my wife to memorize
it. I "wrote" this procedure up and here it is:

There are 150 Psalms, more chapters than any other book in the Bible. The
longest Psalm is Psalm 119 with a marathon 176 verses. However most Psalms
are much shorter. In a quick count I tallied only 33 Psalms which had more
than 20 verses. Conversely, there are 137 Psalms which have 20 verses or
less, and most of these are in the 6-14 verse range. The shortest is Psalm
117 with only 2 verses.

Since our goal is simply to memorize an entire Psalm, then Psalm 117 with
all of 2 verses fits the criteria. And why not? Completing a Psalm
contributes to a person's sense of accomplishment, and builds the
confidence
and enthusiasm needed to tackle bigger Psalms. If I can handle 2 verses,
then how about 6? If I can memorize 6, then how about 8? Then 11? And if
you
master 17-20 of these Psalms, that is essentially the equivalent of Psalm
119!

Here is the Psalm from the NIV:
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Praise the LORD, all you nations;
extol him, all you peoples.
2 For great is his love toward us,
and the faithfulness of the LORD endures forever.

Praise the LORD.
--------------------------------------------------------
Now it helps to know the background of the Psalm as well as New Testament
connections. Psalm 117 is short but quoted by Paul in Romans 15:11. (The
NIV
Study Bible provides a great set of notes and cross references for this
purpose. Just recently the NASB Study Bible was released which has adapted
these notes from the NIV. I highly recommend either of these). But here are
the steps I took to memorizing Psalm 117:

1. I read through the Psalm several times, and looked at how the words were
arranged.
2. I took time to "locate" the Psalm in the book. I knew that Psalm 119 is
the longest Psalm, and Psalm 117 of 2 verses is "2 back" from the longest.
3. Next, I identified a "key" word/phrase with the Psalm. (This can be the
theme, or a repeated phrase). For 117 I took the repeated phrase "Praise
the
LORD."
4. I note that "Praise the LORD" bookends the Psalm.
5. Next I note that the nations/peoples are commanded to praise God
*because* of God's love and faithfulness toward His own people. This is the
main structure - praise God because...
6. To memorize "nations" I visualize a geographical map with the political
nations in various colors. I have the first phrase down: "Praise the LORD,
all you nations."
7. To memorize the next line, I note that "extol" is a word for praise like
the first line. To place the word here I visualize a big "X" paying a toll
before it enters the map I visualized in step 6. The phrase "all you
peoples" is synonymous with "all you nations." I imagine a large group of
people entering the map and filling up the various nations. That is verse
1.
8. For the first part of verse 2 - "great is his love toward us" - I
imagine
a great big red heart coming down out of heaven and landing on the nation
of
Israel.
9. For the second part of verse 2 - "and the faithfulness of the LORD
endures forever" - I picture a scroll in heaven with the words "Will do it,
signed God"  written on it. The scroll stands for the faithfulness of the
LORD, and heaven stands for "endures forever." For who in heaven can take
it
away from God?
10. The last half of verse 2 is the "bookend" Praise the LORD.

Now, to retain it in long-term memory, I have a systematic review method I
call "Rocket Review." I imagine a rocket in its various "review stages"
from
launch until it reaches outer space. Here are the review "stages" and
associated times:
0 - immediately following complete memorization of Psalm 117
1 - 10 minutes after stage 0
2 - 1 day after stage 1
3 - 1 week after stage 2
4 - 1 month after stage 3
5 - 6 months after stage 4

To keep track of the reviews, I write Psalm 117 on one side of a 3x5 card.
On the reverse side, I list the review stages as numbers, and placed the
date of the review to the right of it. I check off each stage as it is
completed, or add checkmarks if I reviewed it any additional times. A check
with a minus indicates I need more frequent review!

I also tend to separate "review" from meditation, application, and
correlation of passages. For Psalm 117, I may try to incorporate the
concept
into my prayers, or think about the meaning of God's love and faithfulness,
or try to relate it to Romans 15:11.


Mark Harris

From: 
> Mark,
>
> You mentioned you have researched nmeumonics and memorization
extensively.
> What book or method have you found to be most helpful?
>
Angie,
Thanks for responding! These two books were personally the most helpful
for me on mnemonic techniques:

_The Memory Book_ by Harry Lorayne and Jerry Lucas (1974)
_Use Your Perfect Memory_ by Tony Buzan (1991)

Both books introduce the basic mnemonic techniques and systems, and both do
so while using many practical applications. Both are also highly
motivational as well. Buzan's book does cover review strategies and also
includes the concept of mind mapping for remembering. The negatives are
that
both barely cover techniques on word-for-word (Scripture) memorization.

As for personal mnemonic methods, I use the link, story and loci (location)
method for sequential material and the phonetic peg word system for
numbers.
The former work well for Scripture verses and the latter for Scripture
chapter/verse references. For ordered material, I devised a "world tour"
system. Based on my spatial/visual strengths and love of geography, maps
and
history, I created an extremely effective ordered "countries of the world
tour" that combines the strengths of the "loci" method with the "peg"
method.

For memorizing verses, I would encourage techniques of incorporating drama,
vocalization, images and/or music into the passages. I also encourage
general Bible reading on a regular basis as an aid to memorization.


Mark Harris