Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 08:39:49 -0500 Subject: Re: Reply to Biblemem list From: Nothing can separate me from the love of God. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor pricipalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 8: 38 & 39. Praise God ! =============================================================================== Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 08:39:52 -0500 Subject: bottom line From: Morning, friends My thoughts early this morning was around you dear people who seek answers, help and encouragement for memorizing scripture. What I believe the answer is following. Bible memory definitely is a good thing. We memorize for a season and we all get interrrupted - we then feel quilty usually for one reason or another. I'm 56 and have 'memorized' so many verses with my Sunday School classes. And on my own and with my daughter have worked on chapters while doing our walking. Also our church has a discipleship program where we 'memorize' about 70 verses. That's good, that's discipline, that's growth, I like it! But as I was thinking about it early this morning, I believe that what we need to accomplish to be spiritually satisfied is realize that the Bible says to meditate day and night. Taking a verse, going over it so many times that we have had to capture it's meaning, claim it as truth, making it ours in our heart. We should be able to recall it from time to time and whenever that verse is anytime referred to, we can say I KNOW that verse - it is one of my verses. Many times I cannot recall the reference and sometimes even quote it, but hearing the verse or coming across that verse in my devotional time I remember I have claimed it and believed it from my head to my heart. Memory work is a big part of that; but the meditation and believing it is what God is looking for from us. I love Him more and more each day 'cause He gets sweeter as the years go by. Pauline =============================================================================== Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 21:54:28 -0500 Subject: From: "Paul Sidman" Greetings, I just got back from a women's retreat where the speaker has all of revelation memorized and recited much of it to specially orchestrated music. It was wonderful! I was soooo inspired to memorize a big chunk of scripture and I am going to start with the gospel of John. Your web site was an encouragement to me. God Bless you! PS Subscribe Biblemem =============================================================================== Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 08:56:07 -0500 Subject: Re: From: "M. Isabel G. Tobias" HI! Please tell me more about it. It sure is inspiring. I attended one of Pastor Jack Hayford's prayer meetings some months back when I went to LA and a lady also proclaimed part of Revelation. I cannot find myself doing that unless I call on God to show His power through me!!!!! I cant even finish a few lines!...Let's encourage each other, ok? isabel philippines Paul Sidman wrote: Greetings, I just got back from a women's retreat where the speaker has all of revelation memorized and recited much of it to specially orchestrated music. It was wonderful! I was soooo inspired to memorize a big chunk of scripture and I am going to start with the gospel of John. Your web site was an encouragement to me. God Bless you! =============================================================================== Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:46:02 -0500 Subject: Fruits From: "Don Myers" Some excellent verses to memorize and ponder on. ============ > FRUITS > . The produce of corn. Deut. 22:9; Psalm 107:37 > . The produce of trees. Genesis 1:29; Eccles. 2:5 > . CALLED THE. > . Fruit of the ground. Genesis 4:3; Jeremiah 7:20 > . Fruit of the earth. Isaiah 4:2 > . Increase of the land. Psalm 85:12 > . Given by God. Acts 14:17 > . Preserved to us by God. Malachi 3:11 > . REQUIRE. > . A fruitful land. Psalm 107:31 > . Rain from heaven. Psalm 104:13; James 5:18 > . Influence of the sun and moon. Deut. 33:14 > . Produced in their due seasons. Matthew 21:41 > . First of, devoted to God. Deut. 26:2 > . DIVIDED INTO. > . Hasty or precocious. Isaiah 28:4 > . Summer fruits. 2 Samuel 16:1 > . New and old. Song 7:13 > . Goodly. Jeremiah 11:16 > . Pleasant. Song 4:16 > . Precious. Deut. 33:14 > . Evil or bad. Matthew 7:17 > . To be waited for with patience. James 5:7 > . Often sent as presents. Genesis 43:11 > . OFTEN DESTROYED. > . In God's anger. Jeremiah 7:20 > . By blight. Joel 1:12 > . By locusts. Deut. 28:38-39; Joel 1:4 > . By enemies. Ezekiel 25:4 > . By drought. Haggai 1:10 > . ILLUSTRATIVE. > . Of effects of repentance. Matthew 3:8 > . Of works of the Spirit. Galatians 5:22-23; Ephes. 5:9 > . Of doctrines of Christ. Song 2:3 > . Of good works. Matthew 7:17-18; Phil. 4:17 > . Of a holy conversation. Proverbs 12:14; Proverbs 18:20 > . Of praise. Hebrews 13:15 > . Of the example of the godly. Proverbs 11:30 > . Of effects of industry. Proverbs 31:16, 31 > . Of the reward of saints. Isaiah 3:10 > . Of the reward of the wicked. Jeremiah 17:9-10 > . Of converts to the church. Psalm 72:16; John 4:36 > . (Bad) of the conduct and conversation of evil men. Matthew 12:33 =============================================================================== Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 8:26 PM Subject: Re: New Introduction From: "Valeria Nunn" >Hi! My name is Val, and I just received your e-mail. It is encouraging to hear about someone who has a family of small children, as well as schooling still being able to take or find the time to memorize scripture. I, too, have been memorizing scripture off and on for many, many years (I have been been a Christian for over 40 years (I'd rather not tell you my age). Anyway, I have just renewed my interest in memorizing scripture and in fact teaching a small group at my church on scripture memory. I am using and suggesting the simplest of methods of many people. I can't get into mneumonics techniques. I am trying to make it fun for the group (which by the way is no small group--I have from 14 - 25 meeting on a weekly basis. I am in the process of re-learning Ephesians 6:10-18, also; now I am going to see if I can do it in a day. I had the goal once of memorizing all of Psalm 119, but as usual, I too, made a great start, but then didn't keep with it. I also went through the NTM System, and again, I think I finished it, but haven't kept those verses up with any review. I tend to memorize verses that have meaning for me, but now, I am beginning to me more consistent. Well, thanks again for introducing yourself. The best of everything to you and your family as you approach your graduation date. Val ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Harris To: Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 8:26 PM Subject: New Introduction > Howdy! > My name is Mark Harris, I'm 38 years old, with a wife and 2 boys (8 & 6) > and 2 girls (3 & 3 mos). I've been a Christian for over 20 years now. And > the Lord willing I'll be graduating with a ThM from Dallas Theological > Seminary in May 2000. > > Now for my Scripture memory background: > Years ago I began memorizing Scripture with the Navigator's Topical Memory > System. Over time (with frequent starts and stops) I memorized many of the > 60 verses, and I added a few personal favorites. But I never achieved the > satisfaction of "completing" the TMS since I didn't memorize all of the > verses. I also read a number of memory technique (mneumonics) books, among > them Harry Lorayne's book. I applied these techniques mainly to information > arising from the texts and not the text itself, such as the order of the > Bible books (and total number of chapters of each), as well as the sequence > of the kings of both Israel and Judah. But review was infrequent, and so my > recall of the kings faded away. > > Later when I entered seminary I entered a different memorization phase. In > learning Hebrew and Greek, memorization was essential to do well in the > courses. Also a few professors encouraged English Bible memorization work, > particularly longer passages such as Romans 6:1-14. Also most importantly, > I > renewed my commitment to personal Bible reading, which I had discarded a > few > semesters into seminary because of life's pressures. The renewal of reading > and "under the gun" memorization served to boost my confidence, and I saw > that long passage/chapter/book memorization was actually "possible" for me > to do. > > So I immediately began memorizing the whole book of Jude in the NIV. But > then I gave it up and never finished it. Its the same story - you begin a > good thing, but then work, school, family, and the daily grind of pressing > issues eventually crowd it out. However I did attempt to use the > memorization techniques I had learned earlier, which was a plus. Afterward > I > also began to write down my favorite verses on 3x5 cards to carry around > with me to memorize. > > I continued with school, work, family and particularly personal Bible > reading and study. I continued to acquire not only more Biblical knowledge > but an increasing number of favorite passages. I became concerned over the > lack of a review process as well as the "loss" of seminary knowledge from > earlier courses. I wanted to maintain my knowledge, so I entered into yet > another phase of memorization. > > I began reading more books on memory and books on learning techniques, such > as mind maps. I experimented with applying various memorization techniques > and methods, learning the things which were effective, and the things which > weren't. It was a self-discovery process as much as anything. I eventually > streamlined this process into my own simplified memorization "system," > which > is mostly a composite of the sources I've read plus maybe a few new twists. > I also continued with my personalized 3x5 card verse memorization which by > now included both Hebrew and Greek passages and phrases. Also during this > time my wife and kids were involved in Awanas, and then last fall I became > an Awana leader and have had the pleasure of participating in the program. > > So, with renewed fevor and armed with an effective personal system, I began > tackling longer passages with suprising efficiency. I memorized Ephesians > 6:10-18 in less than one day. That was over 6 months ago, and I have > retained it since with a few timely reviews. In the past month I memorized > Colossians 3 (25 verses) in under 3 days. Now I'm not memorizing 8 verses > every day - I only average 7-14 new verses a week. Being consistent is > something different from getting the passage in memory, and also reviewing > it effectively is yet again something else. I'll provide more details later > if there is interest in these things (this post is already too long! > Sorry!). But this is basically where I am at the moment in Scripture > memory. > > > Mark Harris > > > > =============================================================================== Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 20:26:43 -0500 Subject: New Introduction From: "Mark Harris" Howdy! My name is Mark Harris, I'm 38 years old, with a wife and 2 boys (8 & 6) and 2 girls (3 & 3 mos). I've been a Christian for over 20 years now. And the Lord willing I'll be graduating with a ThM from Dallas Theological Seminary in May 2000. Now for my Scripture memory background: Years ago I began memorizing Scripture with the Navigator's Topical Memory System. Over time (with frequent starts and stops) I memorized many of the 60 verses, and I added a few personal favorites. But I never achieved the satisfaction of "completing" the TMS since I didn't memorize all of the verses. I also read a number of memory technique (mneumonics) books, among them Harry Lorayne's book. I applied these techniques mainly to information arising from the texts and not the text itself, such as the order of the Bible books (and total number of chapters of each), as well as the sequence of the kings of both Israel and Judah. But review was infrequent, and so my recall of the kings faded away. Later when I entered seminary I entered a different memorization phase. In learning Hebrew and Greek, memorization was essential to do well in the courses. Also a few professors encouraged English Bible memorization work, particularly longer passages such as Romans 6:1-14. Also most importantly, I renewed my commitment to personal Bible reading, which I had discarded a few semesters into seminary because of life's pressures. The renewal of reading and "under the gun" memorization served to boost my confidence, and I saw that long passage/chapter/book memorization was actually "possible" for me to do. So I immediately began memorizing the whole book of Jude in the NIV. But then I gave it up and never finished it. Its the same story - you begin a good thing, but then work, school, family, and the daily grind of pressing issues eventually crowd it out. However I did attempt to use the memorization techniques I had learned earlier, which was a plus. Afterward I also began to write down my favorite verses on 3x5 cards to carry around with me to memorize. I continued with school, work, family and particularly personal Bible reading and study. I continued to acquire not only more Biblical knowledge but an increasing number of favorite passages. I became concerned over the lack of a review process as well as the "loss" of seminary knowledge from earlier courses. I wanted to maintain my knowledge, so I entered into yet another phase of memorization. I began reading more books on memory and books on learning techniques, such as mind maps. I experimented with applying various memorization techniques and methods, learning the things which were effective, and the things which weren't. It was a self-discovery process as much as anything. I eventually streamlined this process into my own simplified memorization "system," which is mostly a composite of the sources I've read plus maybe a few new twists. I also continued with my personalized 3x5 card verse memorization which by now included both Hebrew and Greek passages and phrases. Also during this time my wife and kids were involved in Awanas, and then last fall I became an Awana leader and have had the pleasure of participating in the program. So, with renewed fevor and armed with an effective personal system, I began tackling longer passages with suprising efficiency. I memorized Ephesians 6:10-18 in less than one day. That was over 6 months ago, and I have retained it since with a few timely reviews. In the past month I memorized Colossians 3 (25 verses) in under 3 days. Now I'm not memorizing 8 verses every day - I only average 7-14 new verses a week. Being consistent is something different from getting the passage in memory, and also reviewing it effectively is yet again something else. I'll provide more details later if there is interest in these things (this post is already too long! Sorry!). But this is basically where I am at the moment in Scripture memory. Mark Harris =============================================================================== Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 20:26:33 -0500 Subject: hi From: "Mercy D Varakunan" Hi, My name is Mercy. I came across this emailing list and thought I should join it. Looking for ward to encourage and to be encouraged. God bless, Mercy =============================================================================== Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:35:33 -0500 Subject: Re:Memorization From: Dear Mark: Any information of specific memorization techniques would be appreciated. Thanks for your input. David Hartz =============================================================================== Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:35:53 -0500 Subject: Re: New Introduction From: "Dwight & Vikki" Mark > . I'll provide more details later if there is interest in these things I'm interested :-) Vikki =============================================================================== Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:35:38 -0500 Subject: Re: New Introduction From: "Drake Mariani" Hi Mark, Neat to hear your story! You may be interested in reading "The Prof"'s comments he made to me at a Men's Conference 2 years ago (Howard Hendricks for the rest of you - a really neat guy.) These and some ideas regarding Awanas, passage vs topical memorization and a really neat review system learned from a Navigator friend can all be found on the Bible Memory by Memlok site: http://www.memlok.com (home page of over 50 pages) http://www.memlok.com/faq.html (Awana's, passage vs topical and more) http://www.memlok.com/recommen.html (neat stories of folks from 2-92) http://www.memlok.com/pc2printout.html (where the Prof's comment is) In His Grip, Drake At 3/18/2000 05:26 PM, you wrote: >Howdy! >My name is Mark Harris, I'm 38 years old, with a wife and 2 boys (8 & 6) >and 2 girls (3 & 3 mos). I've been a Christian for over 20 years now. And >the Lord willing I'll be graduating with a ThM from Dallas Theological >Seminary in May 2000. > >Now for my Scripture memory background: >Years ago I began memorizing Scripture with the Navigator's Topical Memory >System. Over time (with frequent starts and stops) I memorized many of the >60 verses, and I added a few personal favorites. But I never achieved the >satisfaction of "completing" the TMS since I didn't memorize all of the >verses. I also read a number of memory technique (mneumonics) books, among >them Harry Lorayne's book. I applied these techniques mainly to information >arising from the texts and not the text itself, such as the order of the >Bible books (and total number of chapters of each), as well as the sequence >of the kings of both Israel and Judah. But review was infrequent, and so my >recall of the kings faded away. > >Later when I entered seminary I entered a different memorization phase. In >learning Hebrew and Greek, memorization was essential to do well in the >courses. Also a few professors encouraged English Bible memorization work, >particularly longer passages such as Romans 6:1-14. Also most importantly, >I >renewed my commitment to personal Bible reading, which I had discarded a >few >semesters into seminary because of life's pressures. The renewal of reading >and "under the gun" memorization served to boost my confidence, and I saw >that long passage/chapter/book memorization was actually "possible" for me >to do. > >So I immediately began memorizing the whole book of Jude in the NIV. But >then I gave it up and never finished it. Its the same story - you begin a >good thing, but then work, school, family, and the daily grind of pressing >issues eventually crowd it out. However I did attempt to use the >memorization techniques I had learned earlier, which was a plus. Afterward >I >also began to write down my favorite verses on 3x5 cards to carry around >with me to memorize. > >I continued with school, work, family and particularly personal Bible >reading and study. I continued to acquire not only more Biblical knowledge >but an increasing number of favorite passages. I became concerned over the >lack of a review process as well as the "loss" of seminary knowledge from >earlier courses. I wanted to maintain my knowledge, so I entered into yet >another phase of memorization. > >I began reading more books on memory and books on learning techniques, such >as mind maps. I experimented with applying various memorization techniques >and methods, learning the things which were effective, and the things which >weren't. It was a self-discovery process as much as anything. I eventually >streamlined this process into my own simplified memorization "system," >which >is mostly a composite of the sources I've read plus maybe a few new twists. >I also continued with my personalized 3x5 card verse memorization which by >now included both Hebrew and Greek passages and phrases. Also during this >time my wife and kids were involved in Awanas, and then last fall I became >an Awana leader and have had the pleasure of participating in the program. > >So, with renewed fevor and armed with an effective personal system, I began >tackling longer passages with suprising efficiency. I memorized Ephesians >6:10-18 in less than one day. That was over 6 months ago, and I have >retained it since with a few timely reviews. In the past month I memorized >Colossians 3 (25 verses) in under 3 days. Now I'm not memorizing 8 verses >every day - I only average 7-14 new verses a week. Being consistent is >something different from getting the passage in memory, and also reviewing >it effectively is yet again something else. I'll provide more details later >if there is interest in these things (this post is already too long! >Sorry!). But this is basically where I am at the moment in Scripture >memory. > > >Mark Harris > > > > > > > > Bible Memory by Memlok The Word Picture System mailto:memlokmemlok.com Drake Mariani 800-373-1947 Free Demo Brochure or Tips http://www.memlok.com?ebargain1 6.9 Cents Long Dist 24/7 No Fees, No Minimum Setup in 5 Min. http://harvestline.com/index.html?groupid=MLK&agentid=DHM Receive $5 now. https://secure.paypal.com/refer/pal=memlok%40memlok.com Gina and I get paid to surf the net. So can you. http://www.alladvantage.com/home.asp?refid=LBI-520 =============================================================================== Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:36:10 -0500 Subject: (no subject) From: Mark, You mentioned you have researched nmeumonics and memorization extensively. What book or method have you found to be most helpful? Thanks, Angie =============================================================================== Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 23:02:48 -0500 Subject: Memorize a Psalm From: "Mark Harris" From: > > Any information of specific memorization techniques would be appreciated. > David, A while back I memorized Psalm 117 and later taught my wife to memorize it. I "wrote" this procedure up and here it is: There are 150 Psalms, more chapters than any other book in the Bible. The longest Psalm is Psalm 119 with a marathon 176 verses. However most Psalms are much shorter. In a quick count I tallied only 33 Psalms which had more than 20 verses. Conversely, there are 137 Psalms which have 20 verses or less, and most of these are in the 6-14 verse range. The shortest is Psalm 117 with only 2 verses. Since our goal is simply to memorize an entire Psalm, then Psalm 117 with all of 2 verses fits the criteria. And why not? Completing a Psalm contributes to a person's sense of accomplishment, and builds the confidence and enthusiasm needed to tackle bigger Psalms. If I can handle 2 verses, then how about 6? If I can memorize 6, then how about 8? Then 11? And if you master 17-20 of these Psalms, that is essentially the equivalent of Psalm 119! Here is the Psalm from the NIV: -------------------------------------------------------- 1 Praise the LORD, all you nations; extol him, all you peoples. 2 For great is his love toward us, and the faithfulness of the LORD endures forever. Praise the LORD. -------------------------------------------------------- Now it helps to know the background of the Psalm as well as New Testament connections. Psalm 117 is short but quoted by Paul in Romans 15:11. (The NIV Study Bible provides a great set of notes and cross references for this purpose. Just recently the NASB Study Bible was released which has adapted these notes from the NIV. I highly recommend either of these). But here are the steps I took to memorizing Psalm 117: 1. I read through the Psalm several times, and looked at how the words were arranged. 2. I took time to "locate" the Psalm in the book. I knew that Psalm 119 is the longest Psalm, and Psalm 117 of 2 verses is "2 back" from the longest. 3. Next, I identified a "key" word/phrase with the Psalm. (This can be the theme, or a repeated phrase). For 117 I took the repeated phrase "Praise the LORD." 4. I note that "Praise the LORD" bookends the Psalm. 5. Next I note that the nations/peoples are commanded to praise God *because* of God's love and faithfulness toward His own people. This is the main structure - praise God because... 6. To memorize "nations" I visualize a geographical map with the political nations in various colors. I have the first phrase down: "Praise the LORD, all you nations." 7. To memorize the next line, I note that "extol" is a word for praise like the first line. To place the word here I visualize a big "X" paying a toll before it enters the map I visualized in step 6. The phrase "all you peoples" is synonymous with "all you nations." I imagine a large group of people entering the map and filling up the various nations. That is verse 1. 8. For the first part of verse 2 - "great is his love toward us" - I imagine a great big red heart coming down out of heaven and landing on the nation of Israel. 9. For the second part of verse 2 - "and the faithfulness of the LORD endures forever" - I picture a scroll in heaven with the words "Will do it, signed God" written on it. The scroll stands for the faithfulness of the LORD, and heaven stands for "endures forever." For who in heaven can take it away from God? 10. The last half of verse 2 is the "bookend" Praise the LORD. Now, to retain it in long-term memory, I have a systematic review method I call "Rocket Review." I imagine a rocket in its various "review stages" from launch until it reaches outer space. Here are the review "stages" and associated times: 0 - immediately following complete memorization of Psalm 117 1 - 10 minutes after stage 0 2 - 1 day after stage 1 3 - 1 week after stage 2 4 - 1 month after stage 3 5 - 6 months after stage 4 To keep track of the reviews, I write Psalm 117 on one side of a 3x5 card. On the reverse side, I list the review stages as numbers, and placed the date of the review to the right of it. I check off each stage as it is completed, or add checkmarks if I reviewed it any additional times. A check with a minus indicates I need more frequent review! I also tend to separate "review" from meditation, application, and correlation of passages. For Psalm 117, I may try to incorporate the concept into my prayers, or think about the meaning of God's love and faithfulness, or try to relate it to Romans 15:11. Mark Harris =============================================================================== Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 23:02:46 -0500 Subject: Re: (no subject) From: "Mark Harris" From: > Mark, > > You mentioned you have researched nmeumonics and memorization extensively. > What book or method have you found to be most helpful? > Angie, Thanks for responding! These two books were personally the most helpful for me on mnemonic techniques: _The Memory Book_ by Harry Lorayne and Jerry Lucas (1974) _Use Your Perfect Memory_ by Tony Buzan (1991) Both books introduce the basic mnemonic techniques and systems, and both do so while using many practical applications. Both are also highly motivational as well. Buzan's book does cover review strategies and also includes the concept of mind mapping for remembering. The negatives are that both barely cover techniques on word-for-word (Scripture) memorization. As for personal mnemonic methods, I use the link, story and loci (location) method for sequential material and the phonetic peg word system for numbers. The former work well for Scripture verses and the latter for Scripture chapter/verse references. For ordered material, I devised a "world tour" system. Based on my spatial/visual strengths and love of geography, maps and history, I created an extremely effective ordered "countries of the world tour" that combines the strengths of the "loci" method with the "peg" method. For memorizing verses, I would encourage techniques of incorporating drama, vocalization, images and/or music into the passages. I also encourage general Bible reading on a regular basis as an aid to memorization. Mark Harris ===============================================================================