Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 10:59 PM Subject: Re: Looking for verses .... From: Edwards Dear Louise, Perhaps this will help. Here are lists of verses about: fear: http://www.jesuscaresaboutyou.org/afraid.html worrying: http://www.jesuscaresaboutyou.org/peace.html hope: http://www.jesuscaresaboutyou.org/hope.html guidance: http://www.jesuscaresaboutyou.org/guidance.html God Bless! Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: Louise Oosthuizen To: Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:05 AM Subject: Looking for verses .... > Hello, > > At church (Reformed Baptist--Croydon--South Africa). > > Been listening to a series of "The Christian Mind" by Pastor Randy > Pike. > > Compelling. His advise is the only way to control your mind is to > follow Jesus' example of what he went through in the wilderness. > > Scripture was His weapon against Satan. > > Today that is the only sure way to fight these thoughts that come into > our mind. Everything we do did come into our head via our mind. > > Now to ward off all these evel thoughts -- you have to have scripture > ready. Please help me with a list to ward of: > > Fear: financial > job, > home, > future > inferiority > many more fears we have to combat. > > Enough for now. I want to put together a list of these verses to > combat Satan and carry it around with me. > > Thanks for all the encouraging e-mails from everyone. > > Greetings, > > Louise. > > > > > > =============================================================================== Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 10:59 PM Subject: Re: Looking for verses .... From: Clyde PRICE Louise, Jesus in His temptation in the wilderness quoted three times from Deuteronomy, which is the OT book He quoted more than any other in all of His recorded words. Once for a course, I wrote a paper examining several of the NT quotes of Deuteronomy for their usefulness and applications in counseling situations... and was frustrated because there were many other passages of Deuteronomy I WANTED to employ which weren't quoted --as such-- in the NT. I'll probably be the only person who suggests that you go fishing in Deuteronomy... but some time after studying the book, and being aware of the quotation statistics, I laughed out loud in church when I heard a preacher say, "Deuteronomy was the Lord Jesus' favorite book in the Bible." ...I hadn't thought of it that way, but HE WAS RIGHT! --Clyde Louise Oosthuizen wrote: > > Hello, > > At church (Reformed Baptist--Croydon--South Africa). > > Been listening to a series of "The Christian Mind" by Pastor Randy > Pike. > > Compelling. His advise is the only way to control your mind is to > follow Jesus' example of what he went through in the wilderness. > > Scripture was His weapon against Satan. > > Today that is the only sure way to fight these thoughts that come into > our mind. Everything we do did come into our head via our mind. > > Now to ward off all these evel thoughts -- you have to have scripture > ready. Please help me with a list to ward of: > > Fear: financial > job, > home, > future > inferiority > many more fears we have to combat. > > Enough for now. I want to put together a list of these verses to > combat Satan and carry it around with me. > > Thanks for all the encouraging e-mails from everyone. > > Greetings, > > Louise. -- Clyde C. PRICE, Jr. Please CC: "group" replies to: Founder & President, the Christian Digital Library Foundation To learn more write . 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For His glory and honor, Lynn Allan =============================================================================== Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 4:15 PM Subject: Introduction and Memorizing different versions... From: Sherrie Baker Hello, I am new to the list and thought I would introduce myself. My name is Sherrie and I am married to my dh Randy and we have three children so far. I am from Ontario, Canada and my husband is from Washington State, USA and we lived our first eight years in Ontario and have now lived in Washington for the past 5 years but will be moving back to Ontario next year. I homeschool and have felt convicted of the Lord lately to GREATLY increase my Bible time with my children and to introduce Scripture memorization in a very big way. Thank you for letting me join your group. Now onto my questions... I have many different Bible Versions. I love to study from the KJV and I have the NKJV for reading and we have NASB and other versions as well. The one I use the most and that my children use in our homeschool is KJV. My question is how do you find it after memorizing from one version and then you go and read a different version, obviously it will be greatly different. Do you find that is a hindrance to memorization? In otherwords I am having difficulty deciding WHICH version to memorize in, because I realize that after memorizing say a chapter or book in one version, then reading a different version, not only will NOT reinforce what you have memorized but will be frustrating following along in to read. Have any of you dealt with this before? Throughout my 31 years as a Christian, I have memorized from KJV, NKJV, NIV and now when I read those verses or passages in a different Bible, they seem foreign. I feel like a "heinz 57" LOL!!! So if my husband and children and myself are going to memorize longer passages and chapters and eventually books of the Bible, how do you go about choosing a version to memorize from? Someone has said that KJV is easier to memorize, but for example I read in the archives of someone, after memorizing a book of the Bible, that God used them to recite it at church gatherings etc. Does memorizing in KJV make it difficult for the hearer of your memorization to grasp the meaning of the text? Or by using one of the newer versions would be more effective in encouragement to the body of Christ? Or maybe it doesn't matter at all. Anyways, any advice from you seasoned memorizers would be greatly appreciated. We are SO excited to get going on this journey but need to have this glitch ironed out. I personally prefer the KJV, but if in future my children or my husband or myself would be asked to say recite a book of the Bible for a Church or gathering of believers would it not be as well received if it were say in a more modern version? Thanks in advance for your insights! =============================================================================== Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 9:42 AM Subject: Re: Introduction and Memorizing different versions... From: My experience with memorization of scripture has been to memorize in the version that I use the most. I was brought up with the KJV but some of the newer versions are a lot clearer in some passages. When I memorized poetry in college and since I used the language that the poet used. So with scripture I memorize which ever passage I am reading and which strikes a chord in me. I could never be comfortable with the 23rd Psalm in any other "language" than the KJV. But there are some translations or paraphrases which are appealing in other 'language." I hope this helps. Jack Wahlberg =============================================================================== Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 9:57 AM Subject: Question from biblemem list moderator From: Stephen Simpson Hi, I am currently working on a new project to provide Scripture memorization tools via the web. I am taking a survey of everybody on this list to ask them what version they use to memorize. Please hit reply and tell me which bible version you use when memorizing. (i.e., KJV, NIV, RSV, NASB ....) ===> Your replies will not be sent to the list, but I will total them up and send out a summary of what I learn. I do not need to know why you like a particular version, just the name of version you like to use for memorization. Thanks for your help Stephen Simpson biblemem list moderator =============================================================================== Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Introduction and Memorizing different versions... From: HUFRID MULLA-FEROZE Dear Sherrie, I am not an expert on the subject so I can just give yiou some practical tips. I for one stick to the NIV so in case you are more familiar with KJV or NKJV, I suggest you use that. Actually, it can be a bit confusing at times as some versions give a different slant or interpretation to the same passage. I wonder if you have come across a site called www.e-sword.net This site gives you over a dozen versions of the bible and comparisons and detailed explanations on the verses. It is a fairly large program to down load but it is free and extremely useful - you may like to see it and then decide. Hope this information is of some help to you. Be blessed in the Name of Jesus. Hufrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherrie Baker" To: Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 2:45 AM Subject: Introduction and Memorizing different versions... > Hello, > > I am new to the list and thought I would introduce myself. My name is > Sherrie and I am married to my dh Randy and we have three children so > far. I am from Ontario, Canada and my husband is from Washington > State, USA and we lived our first eight years in Ontario and have now > lived in Washington for the past 5 years but will be moving back to > Ontario next year. I homeschool and have felt convicted of the Lord > lately to GREATLY increase my Bible time with my children and to > introduce Scripture > memorization in a very big way. Thank you for letting me join your group. > > Now onto my questions... I have many different Bible Versions. I love > to study from the KJV and I have the NKJV for reading and we have NASB > and other versions as well. The one I use the most and that my > children use in our homeschool is KJV. My question is how do you find > it after memorizing from one version and then you go and read a > different version, obviously it will be greatly different. Do you > find that is a hindrance to memorization? In otherwords I am having > difficulty deciding WHICH version to memorize in, because I realize > that after memorizing say a chapter or book in one version, then > reading a different version, not only will NOT reinforce what you have > memorized but will be frustrating > > following along in to read. Have any of you dealt with this before? > > Throughout my 31 years as a Christian, I have memorized from KJV, > NKJV, NIV and now when I read those verses or passages in a different > Bible, they seem foreign. I feel like a "heinz 57" LOL!!! So if my > husband and children and myself are going to memorize longer passages > and chapters > and eventually books of the Bible, how do you go about choosing a > version to memorize from? Someone has said that KJV is easier to > memorize, but for example I read in the archives of someone, after > memorizing a book of the Bible, that God used them to recite it at > church gatherings etc. Does memorizing in KJV make it difficult for > the hearer of your memorization to grasp the meaning of the text? Or > by using one of the newer versions would be more effective in > encouragement to the body of Christ? Or maybe it doesn't matter at > all. > > Anyways, any advice from you seasoned memorizers would be greatly > appreciated. We are SO excited to get going on this journey but need > to have this glitch ironed out. I personally prefer the KJV, but if > in future my children or my husband or myself would be asked to say > recite a book of the Bible for a Church or gathering of believers > would it not be as well received if it were say in a more modern > version? > > Thanks in advance for your insights! > > > > > > > > > =============================================================================== Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:24 AM Subject: Results of biblemem list survey From: Stephen Simpson Greetings, Last week or so I asked each of the members of the list to send me a note telling me what version that they use for memory work I am currently working on a new web page which provides scripture memory cards by topic and I need to be sure what versions are in use. To date, out of about 380 list members, only 40 persons have responded. A number of people mentioned that they memorize in their first language as well as/rather than English. Others also said they use more than one English translation. The following are the results so far: KJV - 18 NIV - 13 NASB - 6 NKJV - 2 NET - 1 ( New English Translation) Stephen Simpson ssimpsonmemoryverses.org =============================================================================== Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 10:34 PM Subject: Scripture Memorization From: Stephen Simpson Greetings, It has been very quite on the list recently so I thought I would see if I can toss out some things to see if I can start a discussion. For those new to the list, this list has been up for about four years and currently has about 350 members. The list archives, current up to the end of December, 2001, can be found at http://www.memoryverses.org/archives.shtml. I will try to get the last couple of months up as soon as I can. So here are a couple of topics for discussion: 1) If you could share one or two secrets for success in the area of scripture memorization , what would they be? 2) Is anyone discouraged with memorizing scripture? If so, perhaps we can pray for you and encourage you? Personally, I am finding more and more that slow and steady wins the race. A little bit of memorization each day at the same time can go a long way. Each day I drive my children to school and for the first 10 minutes of the ride, we do Bible verses. It has been a very good time. There are a lot of things which we can do to make better use of our time, such as carrying verse cards around, posting verses on the mirror where I shave, etc., etc., but the long run I find it hard to sustain the effort because my head is too tired out from all the other things I have to do in life. I know that it is very important to have an accountability partner, you know, someone you can work alongside and meet with on a regular basis. But this is not always practical because of other demands on our life. Becase there is also a general lack of interest in memorizing scripture, it would be hard to find someone close by. My goal is that if I cannot find someone to work with, I will make one (or two). My children (ages 9 and 7) , as they grow up, can become my accounatbility partners. They are right here and they are eager. Let's get some discussion going. Stephen Simpson Biblemem list administrator ===============================================================================