Sent: March 1, 2005 12:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: Accountability From: Bible Memory List A couple of weeks ago I asked the group to hold me accountable for memorizing Proverbs 12. I'm happy to report that Proverbs 12 is now 'in the bag'. I'm now moving on to Proverbs 13 and am committing myself to having that chapter in place and starting on Proverbs 14 by 3/11. In Christ, David Baldwin david()word2life.com Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 1, 2005 12:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: cassette recordings From: Bible Memory List Hello, all! I got a cassette recorder as I mentioned I would try, and I really like how it's working out for me. At first I recorded the reference, then the passage, then the reference, then left a blank space for me to recite it myself when listening to the tape. Even though I read through the passage in my head to tell how long to make the blank space, I wound up not leaving enough room pretty much every time. Also, since I have not really been reviewing what I've learned in the past year, I found that listening to it once on the tape wasn't enough. What I wound up doing was recording each passage, reference and scripture, three times in a row. When i played it back and used it for review, it really helped me totally refresh all that I had learned. I think 3 times is the perfect strategy for me. I just said it along with the tape, easy enough to do since I made the recording and I was following my own usual rythm. I really like this method. I guess I'm also kind of suprised at how well it's working for me. God bless! -Meg ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 1, 2005 12:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: Jonah From: Bible Memory List How many of you have thought of memorizing the book of Jonah? It is less than 50 verses, dynamic, exciting, and very deep. I have memorized and quoted 8 NT epistles so far, and switching over to Jonah is like taking a "breather." I plan to quote the book to our AWANA kids on March 8. There's adventure, emotions, a wonderful prayer (chapter 2), the most effective 8 - word sermon of all time (chapter 3), and a rather surprising ending. There is focus on repentance, faith, God's grace, and arguably the greatest 5-word outburst of Scripture - "Salvation is of the Lord!" It's all there!. Thanks, Sam from Alaska Sender: soderstrom()kpunet.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 1, 2005 12:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: Praise Medley From: Bible Memory List I'm interested in putting together a "praise medley". Something I can recite and be praising the Lord at the same time. Anybody else interested? I'm talking about making a list of 20-50 verses of praise. I'm so stupid busy that I need some accountability forced on me so I will make it a priority. We could just start forming a list and then it would be up to each person to personlize it to their liking. Anyone? Rusty __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp Sender: RJIVEY77()netscape.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 1, 2005 4:36 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Praise Medley (Rusty) From: Bible Memory List I am definately interested in this.  I am focusing on praise and worship right now in my personal studies and spiritual life, and think this would be a fabulous idea.  Let me know how you want to get started with this.   Denna Bible Memory List wrote: I'm interested in putting together a "praise medley". Something I can recite and be praising the Lord at the same time. Anybody else interested? I'm talking about making a list of 20-50 verses of praise. I'm so stupid busy that I need some accountability forced on me so I will make it a priority. We could just start forming a list and then it would be up to each person to personlize it to their liking. Anyone? Rusty __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp Sender: RJIVEY77()netscape.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=29915/*http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250"Do more. Manage less. Sender: waudenna()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 1, 2005 12:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Re: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator From: Bible Memory List It has been a matter of sickness in my family and with me also. I am behind but want to start now to try to do as much memory work as I can. This is a wonderful site and I am hoping to chat with some Christians who can give some hints on how to help memorize scripture. I have 80 emails and alot of them are memory verses so I have alot to catch up on. All prayers welcomed, linda in Alabama s ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bible Memory List" To: Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 1:32 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Message from the Bible Memory List Moderator I definately would like to be invovled with this list, however right now my memorizing has been stagnating to a point. God has been dealing with me the last week or so on this, that I need to get back with the review and learning new verses, so your mail came just in time to confirm what He has been saying. I had been memorizing a verse a day for a period, but then life became hectic (I became ill, my husband developed health problems, I begans taking 11 graduate hours while working full time, I am having to drive 800-1000 miles a week, and just life in general). I am starting tomorrow with a 40 day Lent project - I do one each year - and will be focusing on praise and worship, and plan on memorizing 40 new verses during this period. I would like to ask for prayer, that God give me the ability and keep me focused, not allowing me to be distracted from this by all the other requirements of my life. I am looking forward to hearing from others about what they are doing, how they are accomplishing it, and the changes that have been made in their lives as a result of hiding His word in their hearts. Denna Bible Memory List wrote: Greetings, It has been several months since I have been able to tend to the Scripture Memory Email Discussion List. During the last several months I have been tending to the needs of my family and tending to issues at work. (My father passed away, a family member was ill and I have had a big project at work). So my apologies for ignoring this group for so long. Now however, I would like to get things going again ... > If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, please reply with the words > "Unsubscribe Biblememory" in the subject or top of the body of the > message. I think that it is time to get a discussion going again on the topic of Memorizing Scripture. How is everybody doing? What progress have you made in memorizing scripture over the last months? What struggles have you had in this area and what impact has memorizing scripture had on your relationship with God and others? Stephen Simpson Bible Memory List Moderator ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: motherlu()bellsouth.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 1, 2005 12:45 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Scripture Memorization From: Bible Memory List HI Steve, Thanks for all your efforts with this list. I was wondering if there was anyone on this list,who lives in the Chicago area. I'd love to meet others who are memorizing scripture. I don't anyone at my church who is and I'd love to have the accountability. Lana Sender: Lanaphil46()aol.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 1, 2005 4:36 PM Subject: BibleMem: Report, thanks, and question From: Bible Memory List Hi!   I just wanted to say that I have begun using the Memlok program for verse memorization, (and continue on passage memorization).  I have been very impressed with the ease of the program, it is pretty intuitive, and I love being able to type my scripture for review - it takes a few minutes longer, but I feel I am getting a much more solid grasp by this manner.   To those who have suggested using a large font on cards to review while driving, thank you very much.  I do this when I am in areas where I feel comfortable, I drive 40 miles one way of rural roads to work, about 70 to class, so I have a great deal of light, or no, traffic.  I still try to be extra careful, only review, never learn new verses during this time, and make sure not to take more than a quick glance at the reference.  Not only do I not want to cause anyone else to have an accident, I do not wish to be stranded alone on deserted roads!   Question - someone made mention in an earlier post of a family who sang the Psalms.  I would like to find a source for the music for the Psalms, preferably an exact quotation of the Psalms.  Has anyone an idea of a source for this?   Thanks, Denna Bible Memory List wrote: HI Steve, Thanks for all your efforts with this list. I was wondering if there was anyone on this list,who lives in the Chicago area. I'd love to meet others who are memorizing scripture. I don't anyone at my church who is and I'd love to have the accountability. Lana Sender: Lanaphil46()aol.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/spamguard/*http://promotions.yahoo. com/new_mail/static/protection.html"Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. Sender: waudenna()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 2, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Jonah From: Bible Memory List Hey, I think that's a cool idea. I think memorizing OT accounts is cool. Personally, I love the book of Job, but that would be a PROJECT. Jonah looks like fun. Maybe that'll be my next "long" passage. About long passages and smaller ones- I think I'm going to work on long passages when I'm exercising, like I'm doing now, and then tape up verses or small passages near my bathroom and kitchen sinks. I like working the long ones, but sometimes it's tiring to focus on the same huge hunk of material all the time. I'm going to throw some new stuff in the mix, smaller passages that will change to "review" status more quickly. What is AWANA? God bless- let me know how Jonah works out. -Meg -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List Sent: Mar 1, 2005 12:44 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Jonah How many of you have thought of memorizing the book of Jonah? It is less than 50 verses, dynamic, exciting, and very deep. I have memorized and quoted 8 NT epistles so far, and switching over to Jonah is like taking a "breather." I plan to quote the book to our AWANA kids on March 8. There's adventure, emotions, a wonderful prayer (chapter 2), the most effective 8 - word sermon of all time (chapter 3), and a rather surprising ending. There is focus on repentance, faith, God's grace, and arguably the greatest 5-word outburst of Scripture - "Salvation is of the Lord!" It's all there!. Thanks, Sam from Alaska Sender: soderstrom()kpunet.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 2, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Praise Medley (Rusty) From: Bible Memory List This is it. I could see the visions God is putting on His people. Its true that it is this area that made Nebuchadnezzar (Daniel 4:34,36) to see God in a different way. He praised God. I think I join with Denna's idea to see how you start. Include me in your list. Gloria >>> "Bible Memory List" 3/2/2005 12:36:03 AM >>> I am definately interested in this. I am focusing on praise and worship right now in my personal studies and spiritual life, and think this would be a fabulous idea. Let me know how you want to get started with this. Denna Bible Memory List wrote: I'm interested in putting together a "praise medley". Something I can recite and be praising the Lord at the same time. Anybody else interested? I'm talking about making a list of 20-50 verses of praise. I'm so stupid busy that I need some accountability forced on me so I will make it a priority. We could just start forming a list and then it would be up to each person to personlize it to their liking. Anyone? Rusty __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! 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In Christ, David Baldwin david()word2life.com Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! HYPERLINK "http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/"Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web Sender: praise_grace1983()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 2, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Re: Praise Medley (Rusty) From: Bible Memory List I love the idea, too. I am not much of a singer, but I love to worship. I'd love to be a part. Should we just start finding praise verses/passages and link them however they flow? -Meg -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List Sent: Mar 1, 2005 4:36 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Re: Praise Medley (Rusty) I am definately interested in this.  I am focusing on praise and worship right now in my personal studies and spiritual life, and think this would be a fabulous idea.  Let me know how you want to get started with this.   Denna Bible Memory List wrote: I'm interested in putting together a "praise medley". Something I can recite and be praising the Lord at the same time. Anybody else interested? I'm talking about making a list of 20-50 verses of praise. I'm so stupid busy that I need some accountability forced on me so I will make it a priority. We could just start forming a list and then it would be up to each person to personlize it to their liking. Anyone? Rusty __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp Sender: RJIVEY77()netscape.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=29915/*http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250"Do more. Manage less. Sender: waudenna()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 2, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: Report, thanks, and question From: Bible Memory List Denna: Which version are you memorizing? Please visit my site, www.pursuinglife.com, for free MP3 downloads of word-for-word songs from Psalm 119 and 21 other Psalms. Most of these are KJV, several are NKJV. I would be blessed if you would find these useful. Let's stay motivated! Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich www.pursuinglife.com A Discipleship Site for Bible Memory Fanatics -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 3:36 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Report, thanks, and question Hi!   I just wanted to say that I have begun using the Memlok program for verse memorization, (and continue on passage memorization).  I have been very impressed with the ease of the program, it is pretty intuitive, and I love being able to type my scripture for review - it takes a few minutes longer, but I feel I am getting a much more solid grasp by this manner.   To those who have suggested using a large font on cards to review while driving, thank you very much.  I do this when I am in areas where I feel comfortable, I drive 40 miles one way of rural roads to work, about 70 to class, so I have a great deal of light, or no, traffic.  I still try to be extra careful, only review, never learn new verses during this time, and make sure not to take more than a quick glance at the reference.  Not only do I not want to cause anyone else to have an accident, I do not wish to be stranded alone on deserted roads!   Question - someone made mention in an earlier post of a family who sang the Psalms.  I would like to find a source for the music for the Psalms, preferably an exact quotation of the Psalms.  Has anyone an idea of a source for this?   Thanks, Denna Bible Memory List wrote: HI Steve, Thanks for all your efforts with this list. I was wondering if there was anyone on this list,who lives in the Chicago area. I'd love to meet others who are memorizing scripture. I don't anyone at my church who is and I'd love to have the accountability. Lana Sender: Lanaphil46()aol.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/spamguard/*http://promotions.yahoo. com/new_mail/static/protection.html"Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. Sender: waudenna()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 3, 2005 2:29 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: RE: Report, thanks, and question (Lavern) From: Bible Memory List Lavern,   I tried accessing your site from work once before, but because of my hearing, could not understand.  I have not yet had opportunity to try at home, where I have a better headset.  It seems strange, in one sense, that even though my hearing is bad, most time music comes through - I just have a difficult time understanding the words. I play the piano, and used to sing, so music is a very easy way for me to memorize.   I am in mid-terms with my internet classes this week, so may not have opportunity to try until the weekend, but I will definately be trying.  I memorize NKJV, but have also used KJV, and have not complaint with memorizing the text - the primary reason I went with NKJ is for clarity with the unsaved, but I grew up reading and loving the KJV.   Thanks for all the work you have put into your site - I know how time intensive that it can be, but am praising God that there are people like you willing to do so.   Denna Bible Memory List wrote: Denna: Which version are you memorizing? Please visit my site, www.pursuinglife.com, for free MP3 downloads of word-for-word songs from Psalm 119 and 21 other Psalms. Most of these are KJV, several are NKJV. I would be blessed if you would find these useful. Let's stay motivated! Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich www.pursuinglife.com A Discipleship Site for Bible Memory Fanatics -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 3:36 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Report, thanks, and question Hi!   I just wanted to say that I have begun using the Memlok program for verse memorization, (and continue on passage memorization).  I have been very impressed with the ease of the program, it is pretty intuitive, and I love being able to type my scripture for review - it takes a few minutes longer, but I feel I am getting a much more solid grasp by this manner.   To those who have suggested using a large font on cards to review while driving, thank you very much.  I do this when I am in areas where I feel comfortable, I drive 40 miles one way of rural roads to work, about 70 to class, so I have a great deal of light, or no, traffic.  I still try to be extra careful, only review, never learn new verses during this time, and make sure not to take more than a quick glance at the reference.  Not only do I not want to cause anyone else to have an accident, I do not wish to be stranded alone on deserted roads!   Question - someone made mention in an earlier post of a family who sang the Psalms.  I would like to find a source for the music for the Psalms, preferably an exact quotation of the Psalms.  Has anyone an idea of a source for this?   Thanks, Denna Bible Memory List wrote: HI Steve, Thanks for all your efforts with this list. I was wondering if there was anyone on this list,who lives in the Chicago area. I'd love to meet others who are memorizing scripture. I don't anyone at my church who is and I'd love to have the accountability. Lana Sender: Lanaphil46()aol.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/spamguard/*http://promotions.yahoo. com/new_mail/static/protection.html"Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. Sender: waudenna()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! HYPERLINK "http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/"Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web Sender: waudenna()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 5, 2005 12:37 PM Subject: BibleMem: Help with 'The' and 'A' From: Bible Memory List Does anybody have tips for dealing with 'The' and 'A'? For example, I have challenges remembering whether a given verse starts with 'The righteous man...' or 'A righteous man...' Ideas? David Baldwin david()word2life.com Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 7, 2005 5:11 PM Subject: BibleMem: AW: RE: Help with 'The' and 'A' From: Bible Memory List hello, those are great hints. they belong to a group of "mind mapping" as far as I know. It is always helpful in memorizing build in other senses like hearing - make noises, seeing - using pictures and so on. GOD bless you <>< Dino m> word 'the' make a 't' with your body by sticking your arms out m> straight. m> When learning one with that starts with 'a' as you recite 'a' m> use your arms m> to make triangle over your head by touching your fingers together. Sender: Dr.H.Troendle()t-online.de ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 7, 2005 3:11 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: Help with 'The' and 'A' From: Bible Memory List while practicing use gross motor skills to engrain the information. For example when you are learning one that starts with 'the' as you recite the word 'the' make a 't' with your body by sticking your arms out straight. When learning one with that starts with 'a' as you recite 'a' use your arms to make triangle over your head by touching your fingers together. I know, sounds corny, but the movements can help trigger your memory. It works great with kids :) Your servant, Betsey "Above all else, guard your heart, for it affects everything you do." Proverbs 4:23 > >Does anybody have tips for dealing with 'The' and 'A'? For example, I >have challenges remembering whether a given verse starts with 'The >righteous man...' or 'A righteous man...' Ideas? > >David Baldwin >david()word2life.com Sender: betsey_cross()hotmail.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 7, 2005 2:08 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Help with 'The' and 'A' From: Bible Memory List Couple of possiblities for ya David... You might try associating the "T" in "The" with the cross and associating (linking) the cross with the verse or reference. The "A" could be associated with a triangle or mountain peak or something else that "A" reminds you of, and then associating that with the verse. Also, a neat trick for learning spelling is to write it down wrong and then cross it out several times, and then write it down correctly while capatilizing the letters you're having problems with. For instance, if you were having problems spelling "receive" you would write down "recieve" and cross out the "ie" and repeat this several times. Then you would write down "recEIve" serveral times to reinforce the correct spelling. Perhaps this might work with bible verses as well. You could also think of the content of the verse being accomplished by Jesus (Jesus being "The" man and everyone else being just "A" man). Then associate the content of the verse with either Jesus or just common man depending on if "The" or "A" is used. Hope this helps... In Him, Rusty __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp Sender: RJIVEY77()netscape.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 7, 2005 5:11 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Help with 'The' and 'A' From: Bible Memory List Hi, This is what I do to clarify those things for myself- Although I don't normally recite this way, when I'm trying to remember a word that my mind wants to replace with another word, I emphasize it by saying it louder and in an unusual way when I'm memorizing. First of all, I always do this out loud so that I can physically hear it being emphasized. Instead of "the" the way we normally say it, Say "thee." Instead of "a" say a hard "A". It sounds boring, but out loud repitition and emphasis is how I do it, and I'll spend time on those areas, too. It's a "small" thing, and kind of annoying, but if it takes extra time to get it right, so be it. I hope this helps. -Meg -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List Sent: Mar 5, 2005 12:37 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Help with 'The' and 'A' Does anybody have tips for dealing with 'The' and 'A'? For example, I have challenges remembering whether a given verse starts with 'The righteous man...' or 'A righteous man...' Ideas? David Baldwin david()word2life.com Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 7, 2005 5:11 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: Help with 'The' and 'A' From: Bible Memory List Dear David: Are you thinking about any verses that contain those phrases or only verses that begin with those phrases? Are these verses only in Proverbs? I would love to see you post on my forums over at www.PursuingLife.com. Maybe someone there will be of help. There should be a good technique you can use to match up the correct usage. You asked a good question! Let's work together and think of ways to simplify the work! Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich www.pursuinglife.com A discipleship site for Bible memory fanatics -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:37 AM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Help with 'The' and 'A' Does anybody have tips for dealing with 'The' and 'A'? For example, I have challenges remembering whether a given verse starts with 'The righteous man...' or 'A righteous man...' Ideas? David Baldwin david()word2life.com Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 9, 2005 3:39 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: RE: Help with 'The' and 'A' From: Bible Memory List Thank you to each one who took the time to reply to my question regarding keeping track of 'The' vs. 'A'. I'd like to give you a little bit more information about my current memory project. If you're interested in the particulars of learning lots of Bible verses, read on! If not, well, the delete button is only a twitch away! SETTING THE STAGE The goal is to memorize the book of Proverbs. The first nine chapters went fairly smoothly (although it did take 18 months) but once I got to chapter 10 I was stymied. How does one deal with apparently randomly organized verses? If you'll take a moment to open a Bible and flip through chapters 10-31 of Proverbs you'll see what I mean. I chewed on this challenge for some time and came to the conclusion that I would be served best not by concerning myself with the order of the text but by focusing on attaching each verse with its reference. That way if you were to ask "What's Proverbs 10:13?" or "Quote Proverbs 15:11" I could quote the appropriate verse. The advantage to this is that if I wanted to organize things topically at some point in the future (e.g., what verses in Proverbs deal with pride?) I could simply create lists of appropriate references and memorize the lists. DEALING WITH NUMBERS The next question to answer was how to make reference numbers meaningful. After all "A man is praised according to his wisdom, but men with warped minds are despised" is meaningful but "12:18" doesn't really mean anything. The key was Phonetic Numerals. Phonetic Numerals attach consonant sounds to the numbers 0-9. I'll not go into details here other than to give a quick example. The number 1 equates to a 't' sound where as the number 2 equates to 'n'. Thus a word that equates to '12' is 'tongue'. (You'll note that were only talking phonetics here. When you say 'tongue' you don't really pronounce the 'g'. Also, you don't worry about vowels at all.) If you'd like to learn more about Phonetic Numerals check out www.soundnumbers.com. My words for 12:18 are 'Tongue' and 'Ivy'. '12', as we already noted, equates to 'Tongue' and 18 equates to 'Ivy'. STORY TELLING Hang with me here! This may seem a bit esoteric but it really works! Now I need to relate the words created from each chapter and verse reference to the text. I do this by creating a story. Let's take Proverbs 12:18 as an example: A man is praised according to his wisdom, but men with warped minds are despised. Now let's create a story that ties my reference words for 12:18 to the text: A man's TONGUE sings PRAISES with the ACCORDION to the OWL. The TONGUE sprouts an IVY at WARP speed blowing the MINDS of SPIES looking on. Hmm. Now I'm sure your saying "What an odd story." And you're right! But notice how the story is structured. Do you see the words in ALL CAPS? These words are tied to the reference numbers and to individual words within the verse. TONGUE, for instance is tied to the chapter number 12 and IVY is ties to verse number 18. ACCORDIAN relates to according. OWL relates to wisdom, and so forth. Now when quizzed on Proverbs 12:18 I think 'Tongue' and 'Ivy' and I'm reminded of my story. If I can recall the story, I can recall the verse! CREATING ELEMENTS Now it's time to take my verse and story combo to Supermemo. For each pair of verse and story I create about 25 separate elements. For example one element might read: QUESTION: Proverbs 12:18 A man is praised according to his [.], but men with warped minds are despised. ANSWER: wisdom Another element might read: QUESTION Proverbs 12:18 A man's TONGUE sings PRAISES with the [.] to the OWL. The TONGUE sprouts an IVY at WARP speed and blowing the MINDS of SPIES looking on. ANSWER: accordian In this fashion I'm quizzed regularly on each portion of each verse and can retain the entire verse in memory. THE 'A' AND 'THE' QUESTION I was having trouble remembering which verses start with 'A' and which with 'The'. For example does Proverbs 12:2 begin 'A good man obtains favor from the LORD.' or 'The good man obtains favor from the LORD.'? Thanks to your excellent suggestions I now have tools in my toolbox to attack such problems. Thank you! David Baldwin david()word2life.com Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 10, 2005 2:35 PM Subject: BibleMem: Praise Medley From: Bible Memory List Hello, all, I am wondering what's going on with the praise medley idea? Is it off and rolling? If not yet, how about everyone who's getting involved go to Lavern's site www.pursuinglife.com and start a discussion forum topic for it? Then we can have one place to go see what everyone has to contribute and ideas. Just an idea. I don't want to let our good intentions for this project die. -Meg ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 10, 2005 2:35 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Help with 'The' and 'A' From: Bible Memory List I'll be interested in the answers to this question.  I memorize from the KJV and have no problem with 'the' and 'a', but struggle constantly with 'which' and 'that'.  Also with 'will' and 'shall'.  Maybe there's an English major out there who can give me some basic rules to help me know where each is appropriate.  One thing I've done is to count the number of times each is used in the passage I'm memorizing and in what order.  Like 2 shalls followed by 1 will then 3 shalls.  This seems to help some. Judy Bible Memory List wrote: Does anybody have tips for dealing with 'The' and 'A'? For example, I have challenges remembering whether a given verse starts with 'The righteous man...' or 'A righteous man...' Ideas? David Baldwin david()word2life.com Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=31637/*http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ "Try our new resources site! Sender: praise_grace1983()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 10, 2005 5:05 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Praise Medley From: Bible Memory List I don't know, really.  I was thinking earlier today that I would try to mail Rusty and see what is going on - I have been having trouble with Yahoo, and have not received any mails, but do not know if that is because of the problem or not.  I really hope this can get going, though.  Every time I read I find myself looking for really good verses.   Denna Bible Memory List wrote: Hello, all, I am wondering what's going on with the praise medley idea? Is it off and rolling? If not yet, how about everyone who's getting involved go to Lavern's site www.pursuinglife.com and start a discussion forum topic for it? Then we can have one place to go see what everyone has to contribute and ideas. Just an idea. I don't want to let our good intentions for this project die. -Meg ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject   _____   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=29917/*http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250"Learn more. Sender: waudenna()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 11, 2005 9:16 AM Subject: BibleMem: memorization hints and KJV scripture songs From: Bible Memory List Hello!   I have a some hints for scripture memory and a question.   Hints: If you have a long verse, sometimes it's easier to remember by creating your own little tune to fit the words. Another thing that I sometimes will do is count the words in each phrase - like with Ephesians 1:13: In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, breaking it down to 5, 8, 5, 7, 9 so if you are meditating on a verse in bed, you can easily use your fingers to make sure you have all of the words in the verse. Also - I was memorizing Acts 17:31 and had trouble with the introductory words to the phrases: Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead. So I plucked out the introductory words - Because, in the which, whereof, in that and repeated them a few times to myself (I was alone) and then proceeded to memorize the verse - and doing it that way was helpful to me. I review my verses on the way to work (walking), starting with the new verses and then the "older" verses. This way, once I get through the pack of verses, then I can go back to the new verses and review them more. My question is this - does anyone know of a good collection of scripture songs in the King James Version - to use for bible memory?  Because it has saved some time for me in remembering some verses because I already knew the verse (from a song) and I just had to associate the reference with it.  --Eileen  Ps. 119:97 - Oh, how I love thy law!  It is my meditation all the day.     --Eileen dustbear()yahoo.com Sender: dustbear()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 11, 2005 4:40 PM Subject: BibleMem: Starting chapter 14 From: Bible Memory List I’ve started in on Proverbs 14.  I’d like to commit to starting on Chapter 15 by April 1st.   The work to memorize Proverbs has been arduous.  I estimate that by the time I’ve finished I will have worked about 1500 hours.  (Appx 500 hrs. for 1-9, which I’ve completed, and 1000 hrs for 10-31, which I’m currently working on.) But the rewards have already been tremendous.  And the lifelong rewards will be astronomical.    I chose to memorize Proverbs 10-31 because God convicted me that I needed to get wisdom.  Trust me when I say I still have a long way to go!  Whatever wisdom may be, it is far off and most profound- who can discover it?  Ecc 7:24.  But God has taught me so much.  Just this morning he showed me verse after verse that was like direct career advice – far better advice than I could ever receive from a counselor.  Well, I guess that’s because I received the advice from the Counselor – the Holy Spirit.  The point is, a commitment on my part to be immersed in his Word has been repaid manifold. My encouragement to each of you is that he will also reward you for the time you spend in his Word.   In Christ,   David Baldwin HYPERLINK "mailto:david()word2life.com"david()word2life.com   Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 11, 2005 4:40 PM Subject: BibleMem: Praise Medley From: Bible Memory List All interested in The Praise Medley.... A new topic (Praise Medley) has been posted under the "General Bible Memory Topics" forum on the pursuinglife.com web site. Everyone is welcome, and I would love to hear any and all ideas on direction/organization etc. In Him, Rusty "Bible Memory List" wrote: >I don't know, really. I was thinking earlier today that I would try to >mail Rusty and see what is going on - I have been having trouble with >Yahoo, and have not received any mails, but do not know if that is >because of the problem or not. I really hope this can get going, >though. Every time I read I find myself looking for really good verses. > >Denna > >Bible Memory List wrote: > >Hello, all, >I am wondering what's going on with the praise medley idea? Is it off >and rolling? If not yet, how about everyone who's getting involved go >to Lavern's site www.pursuinglife.com and start a discussion forum >topic for it? Then we can have one place to go see what everyone has to >contribute and ideas. >Just an idea. I don't want to let our good intentions for this project die. >-Meg > >________________________________________ >PeoplePC Online >A better way to Internet >http://www.peoplepc.com > > >Sender: morehorsies()peoplepc.com > >======================================================================= >=== > >To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > > > _____ > >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. HYPERLINK >"http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=29917/*http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250" >Learn >more. > >Sender: waudenna()yahoo.com > >======================================================================= >=== > >To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp Sender: RJIVEY77()netscape.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 15, 2005 5:37 PM Subject: BibleMem: RE: Starting chapter 14 From: Bible Memory List Thank you for reminding me of that, David. I need people like you to encourage me to keep memorizing. At times I feel overwhelmed as I try to keep up with my goals in memorizing Scripture and all the other responsibilities of ministries and life in general. I would appreciate your prayers that I could stay motivated through thick and thin and not throw in the towel, but keep my eyes on Jesus. Sincerely, Lavern Gingerich www.pursuinglife.com A discipleship site for Bible memory fanatics -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 3:40 PM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: Starting chapter 14 I’ve started in on Proverbs 14.  I’d like to commit to starting on Chapter 15 by April 1st.   The work to memorize Proverbs has been arduous.  I estimate that by the time I’ve finished I will have worked about 1500 hours.  (Appx 500 hrs. for 1-9, which I’ve completed, and 1000 hrs for 10-31, which I’m currently working on.) But the rewards have already been tremendous.  And the lifelong rewards will be astronomical.    I chose to memorize Proverbs 10-31 because God convicted me that I needed to get wisdom.  Trust me when I say I still have a long way to go!  Whatever wisdom may be, it is far off and most profound- who can discover it?  Ecc 7:24.  But God has taught me so much.  Just this morning he showed me verse after verse that was like direct career advice – far better advice than I could ever receive from a counselor.  Well, I guess that’s because I received the advice from the Counselor – the Holy Spirit.  The point is, a commitment on my part to be immersed in his Word has been repaid manifold. My encouragement to each of you is that he will also reward you for the time you spend in his Word.   In Christ,   David Baldwin HYPERLINK "mailto:david()word2life.com"david()word2life.com   Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: lavern()pursuinglife.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 15, 2005 5:37 PM Subject: BibleMem: Thanks for the help with 'The' and 'A' From: Bible Memory List I posted a request for help with dealing with ‘The’ and ‘A’ in memory work on three separate email lists.  I thought I’d share the responses from each of those lists as many have already been very helpful.   Once in 1 Peter, in chapter 2, I had a hard time with, 'that' and 'so that'. So I marked them and then noticed the order, like ('so that', 'that', 'that', 'so that'). Once I got the order straight then I reviewed my chapters everyday for a few months. Now it is never a problem. I hope that helps!   You might try associating the "T" in "The" with the cross and associating (linking) the cross with the verse or reference. The "A" could be associated with a triangle or mountain peak or something else that "A" reminds you of, and then associating that with the verse.   You could also think of the content of the verse being accomplished by Jesus (Jesus being "The" man and everyone else being just "A" man). Then associate the content of the verse with either Jesus or just common man depending on if "The" or "A" is used. Hope this helps...   while practicing use gross motor skills to engrain the information. For example when you are learning one that starts with 'the' as you recite the word 'the' make a 't' with your body by sticking your arms out straight. When learning one with that starts with 'a' as you recite 'a' use your arms to make triangle over your head by touching your fingers together. I know, sounds corny, but the movements can help trigger your memory. It works great with kids :)   This is what I do to clarify those things for myself- Although I don't normally recite this way, when I'm trying to remember a word that my mind wants to replace with another word, I emphasize it by saying it louder and in an unusual way when I'm memorizing. First of all, I always do this out loud so that I can physically hear it being emphasized. Instead of "the" the way we normally say it, Say "thee." Instead of "a" say a hard "A". It sounds boring, but out loud repitition and emphasis is how I do it, and I'll spend time on those areas, too. It's a "small" thing, and kind of annoying, but if it takes extra time to get it right, so be it. I hope this helps.   Stick a Ladder (folding step ladder in in profile showing the shape of an A) in those verses and the Tree with only high branches (like a wide but shorter palm tree in the shape of the Tree) next to those that have The.   If you have a lot of occurrences of each word then the problem with using the same mnemonic image for each word is that they will all run together and cause confusion. Learning the vocabulary of languages that have gender presents the same problem as there are only two or three genders for all words. A technique that works well for that is to pick an area of a town you know well and hook the mnemonic for the word somewhere in that area. For example, you could pick a part of your hometown for "a" situations and another part for "the" situations. If the sentence uses "a" then you would imagine the scene occuring somewhere in the "a" part of town. Do the same in the other part of town for the "the" situations. Because you can use different places in the same area, you get the variety you need for uniqueness.   I like the story system also but use sound alike phrases that can be visualized.  As an example, taking Proverbs 12:18, I would use "tone-deaf" as my phonetic cue.  Then substituting sound alike words "A mantis prays for accordion wisdom.  Butt men with warped minds are despised."  I would visualize a relative of mine trying to sing this phrase who is tone deaf.  I love her but it hurts even visualizing her trying to sing this.  I would also visualize a mantis praying with his accordion and degenerate butt men being despised for their actions by numerous insulted ladies with shapely backsides.     Thanks to each for your help.   David Baldwin HYPERLINK "mailto:david()word2life.com"david()word2life.com   Sender: wd_baldwin()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 24, 2005 9:15 AM Subject: BibleMem: hello From: Bible Memory List Hello Everyone, My name is Kevin. I come from Scotland originally and live in Milton Keynes in the United Kingdom and am interested in committing to memory the scriptures of the bible. I am believing that this will help me in my walk with the Lord. I have been a born again Christian since 1999 and am looking forward to the benefits that this web will offer. God Bless you all! Kevin. Sender: Krablessed()aol.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 24, 2005 9:15 AM Subject: BibleMem: question about memory work From: Bible Memory List Hello there, I am just curious about how some people memorize. I'm trying to set a goal for myself to start my day by going over Acts, which is what I'm trying to memorize currently, and to learn at least one to two more verses daily. I'm just wondering how most of you memorize and review, speaking in terms of large books like Acts. I always want to go over everything that I've learned before going forward, but it takes so long and I'm easily distracted by the children...I have 2(and one on the way), and just the business of home life, etc. I really want to stick to my goal this time. I always seem to do well for a couple of days and then my bible gets left in the car or some such thing and I'm off track again. Can some of you share your routines for accomplishing memory goals. Especially those of you with families or limited time. I do carry a small pocket bible and that helps. I am trying to use mornings as my best time, because I work from home at night, most nights. I've been sick a lot too over the last few months which doesn't help in keeping motivated. One funny thing is that I home school my five year old and each week she learns a new verse, which I always seem to memorize right along with her. I guess I think it's funny, because even when I feel that I'm slacking, God gets His word into me somehow...even if the passages are smaller. I just need some good suggestions for sticking to my goal. Thanks!! Sarah Sender: twsm()msn.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 24, 2005 10:10 AM Subject: BibleMem: Re: hello From: Bible Memory List Kevin! It is great to hear that you are planning on memorizing Scripture.  I believe God will touch you in a deep way through this pursuit!  He is obviously already at work in your heart, since you have the desire to know Him more intimately.  I've been memorizing Scripture for a few years now, and it has been life-changing for me.  I hope it will be for you, too.  A smile came accross my face as I read that you are originally from Scotland.  My wife and I took a holiday there for our honeymoon, in the summer of 2002.  We had a wonderful time, and the people we met were very warm and hospitable.  We would love to go back some day and spend more time there.  Happy memorizing! In Him, Cory Grimm     _____   Do you Yahoo!? HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/my/navbar/sethp/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs"Make Yahoo! your home page Sender: corygrimm()yahoo.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 24, 2005 10:10 AM Subject: BibleMem: RE: question about memory work From: Bible Memory List When I do Scripture memory review: --It's just about the first thing I do each morning. This is very consistent and I rarely fail to get in my review work each day. The reason for that is because my review process is such that if I should fail to review one day I have to do double duty the next day. Very painful! When I work on new Scripture: --It's just about the last thing I do each night - well, those nights I do it! I could certainly use more discipline in learning new Scripture. I tend to go in fits and starts. An efficient review process: I think it's important to break memory work up into numerous elements (I'll call them 'bits and pieces') and then only review each 'bit and piece' as often as necessary to keep it in memory. Let me give an example of a 'bit' and a 'piece': Proverbs 11:11 Through the blessing of the upright a city is exalted, but by the mouth of the wicked it is destroyed. I'll break the above verse up into a dozen different pieces. Some of which are large ('piece'): Quote: Q: Fill in the blank - [...] but by the mouth of the wicked it is destroyed. A: Through the blessing of the upright a city is exalted, And some of which are quite small ('bit'): Quote: Q: Fill in the blank - Through the blessing of the upright a [...]is exalted, but by the mouth of the wicked it is destroyed. A: city With regards to review I attempt to review each element (or each 'bit and piece') only as often as necessary to keep it lodged in memory. By doing this I keep my review time relatively short which allows more time for memorizing new Scripture. To assist me in generating elements ('bits and pieces') and to assist in estimating when I need to review these elements, I use SuperMemo - a software program specifically designed to empower the user to keep information in long term memory. Regards, David Baldwin david()word2life.com -----Original Message----- From: Bible Memory List [mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:15 AM To: biblememory()memoryverses.org Subject: BibleMem: question about memory work Hello there, I am just curious about how some people memorize. I'm trying to set a goal for myself to start my day by going over Acts, which is what I'm trying to memorize currently, and to learn at least one to two more verses daily. I'm just wondering how most of you memorize and review, speaking in terms of large books like Acts. I always want to go over everything that I've learned before going forward, but it takes so long and I'm easily distracted by the children...I have 2(and one on the way), and just the business of home life, etc. I really want to stick to my goal this time. I always seem to do well for a couple of days and then my bible gets left in the car or some such thing and I'm off track again. Can some of you share your routines for accomplishing memory goals. Especially those of you with families or limited time. I do carry a small pocket bible and that helps. I am trying to use mornings as my best time, because I work from home at night, most nights. I've been sick a lot too over the last few months which doesn't help in keeping motivated. One funny thing is that I home school my five year old and each week she learns a new verse, which I always seem to memorize right along with her. I guess I think it's funny, because even when I feel that I'm slacking, God gets His word into me somehow...even if the passages are smaller. I just need some good suggestions for sticking to my goal. Thanks!! Sarah Sender: twsm()msn.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: david()word2life.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 24, 2005 9:15 AM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Thanks for the help with 'The' and 'A' From: Bible Memory List Hello everyone, I've thought about the "The" "A" thing for a while and I'm beginning to think that it really doesn't matter. To be realistic, it's not like the Bible has been lost and people our hanging off our every word for whether the word is a "The" or "A" (unless it is important). Also, for example, I came across the same problem with grammer. Right now I'm memorizing Collossians. Let me try to recite Colossians 1:3 from memory: (MEMORY) "We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying for you always." Now let's see what it really is: (BIBLE) "We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you," So there's a bit of a mixup in grammar. The way the KJV talks is old-grammar, we rarely ever use much of it in modern English. Anyone else feeling the same way as me? Both are 100% accurate, there's just a different style of grammar. It's the same with something like Colossians 1:4 "Since we heard of your faith..." I tend to say "Since we have heard of your faith." Moral of the explation: I don't think 100% word accuracy is necessary if it doesn't change the context or meaning at all. On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:37:08 -0500, Bible Memory List wrote: > I posted a request for help with dealing with 'The' and 'A' in memory > work on three separate email lists. I thought I'd share the responses > from each of those lists as many have already been very helpful. > > > > Once in 1 Peter, in chapter 2, I had a hard time with, 'that' and 'so that'. > > So I marked them and then noticed the order, like ('so that', 'that', > 'that', 'so that'). Once I got the order straight then I reviewed my > chapters everyday for a few months. Now it is never a problem. I hope > that helps! > > > > You might try associating the "T" in "The" with the cross and > associating > (linking) the cross with the verse or reference. The "A" could be > associated with a triangle or mountain peak or something else that "A" > reminds you of, and then associating that with the verse. > > > > You could also think of the content of the verse being accomplished by > Jesus (Jesus being "The" man and everyone else being just "A" man). > Then associate the content of the verse with either Jesus or just > common man depending on if "The" or "A" is used. > Hope this helps... > > > > while practicing use gross motor skills to engrain the information. > For example when you are learning one that starts with 'the' as you > recite the word 'the' make a 't' with your body by sticking your arms > out straight. > When learning one with that starts with 'a' as you recite 'a' use your > arms to make triangle over your head by touching your fingers together. > > I know, sounds corny, but the movements can help trigger your memory. > It works great with kids :) > > > > This is what I do to clarify those things for myself- Although I don't > normally recite this way, when I'm trying to remember a word that my > mind wants to replace with another word, I emphasize it by saying it > louder and in an unusual way when I'm memorizing. First of all, I > always do this out loud so that I can physically hear it being emphasized. > Instead of "the" the way we normally say it, Say "thee." Instead of > "a" say a hard "A". It sounds boring, but out loud repitition and > emphasis is how I do it, and I'll spend time on those areas, too. It's > a "small" thing, and kind of annoying, but if it takes extra time to > get it right, so be it. > I hope this helps. > > > > Stick a Ladder (folding step ladder in in profile showing the shape of > an A) in those verses and the Tree with only high branches (like a > wide but shorter palm tree in the shape of the Tree) next to those > that have The. > > > > If you have a lot of occurrences of each word then the problem with > using the same mnemonic image for each word is that they will all run > together and cause confusion. Learning the vocabulary of languages > that have gender presents the same problem as there are only two or > three genders for all words. > > A technique that works well for that is to pick an area of a town you > know well and hook the mnemonic for the word somewhere in that area. > For example, you could pick a part of your hometown for "a" situations > and another part for "the" situations. If the sentence uses "a" then > you would imagine the scene occuring somewhere in the "a" part of > town. Do the same in the other part of town for the "the" situations. > Because you can use different places in the same area, you get the > variety you need for uniqueness. > > > > I like the story system also but use sound alike phrases that can be > visualized. As an example, taking Proverbs 12:18, I would use "tone-deaf" > as my phonetic cue. Then substituting sound alike words "A mantis > prays for accordion wisdom. Butt men with warped minds are despised." > I would visualize a relative of mine trying to sing this phrase who is > tone deaf. I love her but it hurts even visualizing her trying to > sing this. I would also visualize a mantis praying with his accordion > and degenerate butt men being despised for their actions by numerous > insulted ladies with shapely backsides. > > > > > > Thanks to each for your help. > > > > David Baldwin > > HYPERLINK "mailto:david()word2life.com"david()word2life.com > > > > Sender: wd_baldwin()yahoo.com > > ====================================================================== > ==== > > To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject > > -- Marcin Samiec Sender: marcin.samiec()gmail.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 26, 2005 11:39 AM Subject: BibleMem: Review takes so long! From: Bible Memory List Sarah recently noted (regarding review) "it takes so long"..... Exactly why I do MemLok. I've done lots of long passages. But the time to "maintain" was a killer. I believe "review" is a "soul" thing...as in "mental...brain", not a "spiritual" thing. So, I'm not real excited about spending 20+ minutes a day reviewing to maintain. I'd rather "meditate/apply" not be "rattling off". I am NOT saying that is a bad thing...both long and short passage memorization DEFINITELY have their place. Personally, I consistently spend 5 minutes a day, 5 days a week. The rotating review in MemLok (automated and allows every member of your family to have their own verses - 550 topics/700 verses NIV, KJV, NKJ or NASB) remains 5 minutes a day at all times, and you do take the weekends off. By the way, Steve Simpson - moderator - DID ask me to jump in every once in a while and tell about Memlok) :) End result? With one verse a week (suggested doing the Personal Notes to record what the Lord is telling you or the Meditation sheet so you're building a journal of His workings in your life - once a week having a "Quiet Time" around the chapter from which the verse comes)...... You will be learning at least one key verse EVERY OT book, chapter of Proverbs, tons of Psalms, and plenty of verses from EVERY chapter of the New Testament. That is the equivalent of learning about 30 passages of 23 verses each. And, your "keep up with them" time remains 5 minutes a day. Do you want to keep up with 30 passages of 23 verses, but miss out on hundreds of other key chapters and verses, while spending lots of time? The MemLok review system works. By God's grace Memlok has become the method of Scripture Memorization/Meditation in over 50 countries and thousands of folks from 2-92 since 1989 when the Lord first introduced the fun picture idea via the Notebook. Now, 99% download the software. :) Let me know if I've raised more questions than I've answered please. Drake Mariani 800-373-1947 PST www.memlok.com Sender: memlok()memlok.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 26, 2005 11:39 AM Subject: BibleMem: Re: question about memory work From: Bible Memory List First, what a great yet challenging book to memorize!  Have you memorized much before? How far are you into Acts already? I think memorizing larger chunks of material is a lot different then learning scattered verses. Here are some thoughts that might help you. Especially regarding reviewing the material you've already learned. First, it's good to forget! I've found that if I learn new material and review it too much without letting it sit I don't learn it as well long term.  I typically find that the best way to really get new material into long term memory is to: 1) Learn it 2) Let it sit until I've actually forgotten parts of it 3) Re-Learn it 4) Repeat as neccessary. :) After a while you'll start to realize that even after not looking at it for a week the re-learning process has turned into a review. It sounds like everytime you sit down to learn a couple of verses you first review everything you've learned.  That's easy for a couple of chapters and then you start taking all of your time to review and you can't learn new material. Here is what I would do: Just worry about one chapter at a time. Break the chapter down to sections (by topic, event or the section headings in your bible) and then break each section down into paragraphs. Work on the first paragraph until you feel you know it. After you are done with that move onto the next paragraph. Don't worry about the first! Once  you get 2 or 3 paragraphs learned. Then go back and try putting all three of them together. (Don't worry if you have to re-learn parts of the earlier paragraphs, it's a good thing...honest!). Work your way through the chapter this way. After you have finished a couple chapters I'd try setting a Learn, Re-Learn, Review schedule. Something like this: 1) Learn chapter 3 2) Re-learn chapter 2 3) Review Chapter 1 4) Learn chapter 4 5) Re-Learn chapter 3 6) Review chapter 2 7) Learn chapter 5 8) Re-Learn Chapter 4 9) Review Chapter 3 10) Learn Chapter 6 At some point you'd want to insert 2nd and 3rd reviews for the the earlier chapters. Each time you go over a chapter let it sit longer. Eventually you'll pick up a chapter you haven't looked at in weeks and be surprised that you remember most of it! Remember that the goal is to remember it for the LONG term. Sorry if this is long and too scattered in my thoughts! I hope it makes sense and helps some. -Lee Bible Memory List wrote: Hello there, I am just curious about how some people memorize. I'm trying to set a goal for myself to start my day by going over Acts, which is what I'm trying to memorize currently, and to learn at least one to two more verses daily. I'm just wondering how most of you memorize and review, speaking in terms of large books like Acts. I always want to go over everything that I've learned before going forward, but it takes so long and I'm easily distracted by the children...I have 2(and one on the way), and just the business of home life, etc. I really want to stick to my goal this time. I always seem to do well for a couple of days and then my bible gets left in the car or some such thing and I'm off track again. Can some of you share your routines for accomplishing memory goals. Especially those of you with families or limited time. I do carry a small pocket bible and that helps. I am trying to use mornings as my best time, because I work from home at night, most nights. I've been sick a lot too over the last few months which doesn't help in keeping motivated. One funny thing is that I home school my five year old and each week she learns a new verse, which I always seem to memorize right along with her. I guess I think it's funny, because even when I feel that I'm slacking, God gets His word into me somehow...even if the passages are smaller. I just need some good suggestions for sticking to my goal. Thanks!! Sarah Sender: HYPERLINK "mailto:twsm()msn.com"twsm()msn.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: lschaef()nb.net ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject =============================================================================== Sent: March 29, 2005 1:56 PM Subject: BibleMem: Re: Review takes so long! From: Bible Memory List I've checked out the memlok website before, but since I don't have a lot of time to get on the internet, etc. I did not pursue downloading it or anything.  I will look at it again, because so many people have mentioned it in this group. It must be a reliable way to memorize.  I also think that memorizing key verses throughout scripture is valuable.  I like to attempt Psalms and books of the bible, but I'm open to other approaches, as long as it is all God's wordSmiley emoticon.  I will definitely check out memlock. Thanks!!   Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: HYPERLINK "mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org"Bible Memory List To: HYPERLINK "mailto:biblememory()memoryverses.org"biblememory()memoryverses.org Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 8:39 AM Subject: BibleMem: Review takes so long! Sarah recently noted (regarding review) "it takes so long"..... Exactly why I do MemLok. I've done lots of long passages. But the time to "maintain" was a killer. I believe "review" is a "soul" thing...as in "mental...brain", not a "spiritual" thing. So, I'm not real excited about spending 20+ minutes a day reviewing to maintain. I'd rather "meditate/apply" not be "rattling off". I am NOT saying that is a bad thing...both long and short passage memorization DEFINITELY have their place. Personally, I consistently spend 5 minutes a day, 5 days a week. The rotating review in MemLok (automated and allows every member of your family to have their own verses - 550 topics/700 verses NIV, KJV, NKJ or NASB) remains 5 minutes a day at all times, and you do take the weekends off. By the way, Steve Simpson - moderator - DID ask me to jump in every once in a while and tell about Memlok) :) End result? With one verse a week (suggested doing the Personal Notes to record what the Lord is telling you or the Meditation sheet so you're building a journal of His workings in your life - once a week having a "Quiet Time" around the chapter from which the verse comes)...... You will be learning at least one key verse EVERY OT book, chapter of Proverbs, tons of Psalms, and plenty of verses from EVERY chapter of the New Testament. That is the equivalent of learning about 30 passages of 23 verses each. And, your "keep up with them" time remains 5 minutes a day. Do you want to keep up with 30 passages of 23 verses, but miss out on hundreds of other key chapters and verses, while spending lots of time? The MemLok review system works. By God's grace Memlok has become the method of Scripture Memorization/Meditation in over 50 countries and thousands of folks from 2-92 since 1989 when the Lord first introduced the fun picture idea via the Notebook. Now, 99% download the software. :) Let me know if I've raised more questions than I've answered please. Drake Mariani 800-373-1947 PST HYPERLINK "http://www.memlok.com"www.memlok.com Sender: HYPERLINK "mailto:memlok()memlok.com"memlok()memlok.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject Sender: twsm()msn.com ========================================================================== To unsubscribe reply saying "UNSUBSCRIBE BIBLEMEM" in the subject ===============================================================================