Hi Duv family,
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Perhaps we'll meet at your local homeschool convention at a booth I'm working in
2003!

At 10/24/02 02:14 PM, you wrote:

>Hi Nancy,
>
>I have short verses on cassette that may help you.
>
>I have a contract with Zondervan, so any NIV verses you want, I'm able
>to make for you.
>
>Here's my site:
>
>Bob Moran
>Peace, hope, joy from Bible Memory Time. FREE Sample!
>Click here: http://www.cgscorp.com/bmt
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Nancy Paurus [mailto:Duv002msn.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 6:14 PM
>To: biblememmemoryverses.org
>Subject: Hello, we are new
>
>
>Hello Everyone,
>
>We are a homeschooling family of three, Mom, 16 yr old son, and 11 yr
>old daughter. It's been a rough year for us with chronic illnesses of
>Mother's and Son's that keep us going to the doctor quite frequently.
>We tend to stay home a lot, now being winter in Minnesota. God has
>blessed us with several pets to care for and love: two Parakeets, a
>little kitten and now a full grown iguana for Son's 16th birthday.
>
>As a single parent, and being seriously ill at times and other serious
>is sues, I have implored my children to seek out their own
>relationships with God and to pray for our family an others, so we can
>survive anything that comes our way.
>
>I have a terrible time with short term memory lately, and need to take
>shorter passages. I know what God's word means...but cannot always
>quote exact scripture or even be able to remember where it is...just
>that I know what it says/means.  I pray God will heal us ( in many
>ways) all through this, and the time is now, more than ever to get
>God's Word in our hearts.
>
>The ~Duv~ family

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Angela,

I don't pipe up in this mailinglist too often, but if
you're using KJV or NKJV with your children, the Child Evangelism Fellowship
(CEF) produces some excellently done visualized Bible verses, and several
Scripture-songs (mostly KJV.

It has been a while since I've used their stuff, so I
don't know what's more recent. They have excellent flannelboard-illustrated
lessons which I've enjoyed teaching to mixed-age-group kids, mostly in "backyard
Bible Club" type settings. Since the teacher's materials are supplied in the
first-person, I've heard some folks object to saying things that in their
specific cases aren't true. Actually, it had never occurred to me simply to READ
THE LESSON directly out of the book...(DUH!)... but used it only as an
idea-source for what I was actually doing.

There's another organization, Children's Ministries International, which I
watched the initial formation of, but have lost track of in recent years. Their
first founders (now all retired) had a real talent for training children's
workers to develop THEIR OWN teaching materials. I went through one of their
early
(80s) seminars, and really enjoyed it, even though I'm
still "crafts-impaired".   8-)

This ministry has one of the highest "ROI"s of
anything in this universe.

--Clyde

--- Angela Shepherd 
wrote:
> My introduction:  I am 31, married with 2 sons (9 &
> 13).  I teach a 7th
> - 12th grade Sunday School class and lead 1rst
> through 6th grade
> children's ministry.  I have been a Christian since
> I was 11, but left
> the church when I was younger and have just returned
> to follow Christ in
> the past two years.
>
> I have just started training 4th, 5th, and 6th
> graders for Bible Drill.
> I am really excited for two reasons.  I am really
> excited about the
> impact that memorizing scripture will have on these children's lives.
> We have never done Bible Drill in my church and it
> has not been done in
> my association for some time.  God has put it on my
> heart to revive this
> useful tool for the children in my area.  I also am
> excited because I
> myself have not commited many scriptures to memory.
> We also will be
> memorizing the 66 books of the Bible in order
> (another thing that I have
> not done).  I will be starting small with single
> verses.  I would like
> information from others about teaching scripture
> memory to children in
> this age group.  If this is not the proper forum for
> this discussion,
> then please visit the message board on my website.
> You can go directly
> to my site at
> http://home1.gte.net/res1ahgs/index.html.  I also
> have the
> information about Bible Drill if anyone is
> interested in starting it in
> their area.
>
> God Bless,
> Angela


=====
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Founder & President: Christian Digital Library Foundation
Vice President, Parakletos Ministries Inc. (of Georgia-USA)

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One way to help yourself remember the book reference is to repeat it before and
after the verse when you quote the verse. It helps some. another way to remember
it is to read the whole chapter or sometimes book before working on learning it
every time you work. another -and in my opinion the best - is to find a way to
apply ite virese to your life (or the package as the case may
be) because what affects our life we tend to remember.. Another for just verses
is to make a song out of  the verse with the reference repeated again and again
in the song.. This works very well for me. it might be more difficult for long
passages. Signs or plaques help. Flashcards. Anything that helps you see the
verse and of course recordings to help you memorize it with the Reference in
larger, bolder maybe colored type. If you learn by doing (I
do) then it helps to type or wirite it over and over. Hope this helps.

Truly it is. I feel richly blessed by the turth of that even in the midst of the
most severe attacks by the evil one. that is where I am right now. In the midst
of the most severe attacks. the lord has given me assurance by his Word that he
will uphold me with his strength nad will never, no nerer , no never forsake me
and that the firm foundation he has laid for me will be enough to see me through
though he seems to have called out all my foes to the attack and to determine in
his evil mind ( I won't say heart because to me he has none). What more cna he
do to me than he has already done? and what is that compared to what my Gradt
Lord has done for me. I will be victorious becuase He is with me, though I am
weak, I am ill , I am old and the foe is strong, the foe is many, the foe is
well, the foe  will bring all hell against me but I am not alone. Jesus is with
me. I will overcome and I will defeat the evil foe. For God is my hope , my
help, my strength and my righteousness. Priise his Holy Name - and pray for me.
Please. I will pray for you.


In a message dated 10/24/02 3:15:59 PM Central Standard Time,
THEWYSEONESaol.com writes:


>
>
> It's a great thing to focus on God's word...
>
> "I have restrained my feet from every evil way,
> That I may keep Thy word.
> I have not turned aside from Thine ordinances,
> For Thou Thyself hast taught me."
> (Psalm 119:101-102)
>
> "Make me know Thy ways, O Lord;
> Teach me Thy paths.
> Lead me in Thy truth and teach me,
> For Thou art the God of my salvation;
> For Thee I wait all the day."
> (Psalm 25:4-5)
>
> He Himself will teach you as you soak in His word.
> May God richly bless you and make you fruitful.
> SW
>
>
>
>
>

Yes . I know those problems. I have diabetes and it affects my memory badly. I
did do a lot of memorizing when I was enrolled in bible Memory Association (I
don't know whether it still exitts. they had books of scripture memory plans for
ages from 5 and up. One of the things I had the most trouble with was the
addresses (where the verses lived in the living Word). the way they had us
memorize was to repeat the address both at the beginning of the verse and at the
end. They also had us read the whole chapter instead of just reading and
memorizing the verse. That way we would understand more of what we read. I also
would sing the verses as a song and that helped me a gread dela. I soon began
making up songs with the words fo the verses in them, but there sere usually
more words as well. I don't know whether you would want to do this or not or
whether it would help. Another thing I would do is type them again and again or
write them again and again. I learn best by doing. Do you know how you learn
best? If you learn best by hearing it would help to make a tape of the verses
you want to learn or  record them on your coimputer and play the verses over and
over (loop them). Listen often and you will learn much as you learn the words of
a song by eharing it over and over. If you learn best by seeing put the verse up
everywhere in your house. You will learn it. The thing that helps me best I
think is simply applying the verse in some way to my life. I would like to
request that you pray for me and my family. We have soem really difficult health
problems and divorce/ custody problems. Especially pray for my daughter, her
children and the custody problems over the children (Satan is trying very hard
to get those children and I suspect drugs and sexual abuse are both being used
-especially with the girl). I can't prove anything, though and they are using
our health which is easy enough to prove. The reason I suspect sexual abuse is
something my grand daughter worte which I read but cannot take to court. It
would alienate her entirely. It sounds like you are giving the kids a good
foundation for the Christian lfe in spite of your memory problems and I believe
that foundation will make for a atrong house flr those kids. Have you got the
words to the hymn How Firm a Foudation? That is a wonderful hymn. If you don't
know it, I believe the words and music are available for free form hymsite.com
and I think it applies to everything I am going through and it helps me to sing
it to myself. God bless you. Keep up the good work with those children. Marie


In a message dated 10/24/02 3:14:48 PM Central Standard Time,
bwielandconnection.com writes:


> Subj:RE: Hello, we are new
> Date:10/24/02 3:14:48 PM Central Standard Time
> From: HREF="mailto:bwielandconnection.com">bwielandconnection.com
> Reply-to:biblememmemoryverses.org
> To:biblememmemoryverses.org
> Sent from the Internet
>
>
>
> My advice to you is to take the verses that you love so much, whether
they
> are long or short and divide the verse up in to 2 or 3 parts, then try
> to memorize each part. That way you'll remember the verse in parts.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nancy Paurus [mailto:Duv002msn.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:14 PM
> To: biblememmemoryverses.org
> Subject: Hello, we are new
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> We are a homeschooling family of three, Mom, 16 yr old son, and 11 yr
> old daughter. It's been a rough year for us with chronic illnesses of
Mother's
> and Son's that keep us going to the doctor quite frequently. We tend
> to stay home a lot, now being winter in Minnesota. God has
blessed
> us with several pets to care for and love: two Parakeets, a little
> kitten and now a full grown iguana for Son's 16th birthday.
>
> As a single parent, and being seriously ill at times and other serious
> is sues, I have implored my children to seek out their own
> relationships
with
> God and to pray for our family an others, so we can survive anything
> that comes our way.
>
> I have a terrible time with short term memory lately, and need to take
> shorter passages. I know what God's word means...but cannot always
> quote exact scripture or even be able to remember where it is...just
> that I
know
> what it says/means.  I pray God will heal us ( in many ways) all
> through this, and the time is now, more than ever to get God's Word in
> our
hearts.
>
> The ~Duv~ family
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

On 27 Oct 2002 20:52, Dino wrote:
From: Dino 
> Hi TEd,
>
> I am in Germany - I am not a computer-geek.
>
> But I would like to find a system which helps me in memorizing verses
> and long passages.
>
> the problem is with all the programs you can purchase:
> How do I know whether I will be able to handle them?
>
> So I am looking for something simple to use -
> could you help me  - give me some hints please?
>
> GOD Bless you
>
> yours
>
> in Christ
>
> <><
>
> Dino


Dino,

I am also not an expert in this, but might have some suggestions that can help.
These are my personal ideas, so you'll probably also want to look at what others
are doing that helps them.  After reading articles about how memory works, and
looking at others' suggestions, I've come up with my own system for memorizing
scripture, and am calling it EZ-Memory-Verse.  It can be used manually (with
index card flashcards, paper, etc) or with your favorite computerized review
system (SuperMemo, etc).  There are lots of ideas about the best way to memorize
scripture, and the EZ-Memory-Verse is is a compilation of the best of them in my
opinion.

If one can define what's most important to a memory verse system, then you can
evaluate various system according to that metric of acceptability.  I think the
two most important items in a memory verse system are:
1) Individual item elements that you memorize.
2) A good review schedule.

The EZ-Memory-Verse system is a system for #1, as it stresses What to memorize,
namely: **In the following sentences, "VERSE" should actually be interpreted as
a list of verses appearing together in a short paragraph.  As every VERSE has
multiple important elements, you should quiz yourself independently on each of
them.
a) The VERSE Reference should trigger the Start Of The VERSE in your head.
b) The Start Of The VERSE should trigger the VERSE Reference in your head.
c) The Start Of The VERSE should trigger a Note/Topic in your head.
d) The Reference + Start Of The VERSE should trigger the 2nd Part of the VERSE
in your head.
e) If the VERSE still has parts, then the 2nd Part of the VERSE should trigger
the 3rd Part of the VERSE in your head, and so-on, until you've quizzed yourself
on all the part of the VERSE.

You can read more about my system by downloading it at
http://ire.org/~ted/ez-memory-verse.zip
See ch1.doc in the Psalms and John folders to see the types of flashcards to
create.

The most critical/difficult part of memorizing verses is the first part, which
is what items a, b, and c concentrate on.  Knowing the verse references will
help you easily remember verses when you later are given just the reference, and
associating a note/topic with the VERSE will help you remember the verse when
hearing the note/topic later.  The Navigators memory system also stresses verse
references and a note/topic.  Actually, to remember all the verses associated
with a topic as effectively as possible, you need to make a special effort to
learn that... ie, the EZ-Memory-Verse system will help you to remember "Trinity"
when you hear any VERSE reference associated with "Trinity".  However, it won't
help you to perfectly recall all of them at once; for that, you should also
study a complete list of verses that deal with the Trinity.  This is how Jack
Van Impe studies.

Another key component of the system is "chaining", as one VERSE section will jog
your memory for the next section.  The language of the New Testament lends
itself to chaining more than the Old Testament.  You'll see how effective
chaining is when you try it.

The next most important part to a memory verse system is review.  Any
computerized review system will be have some advantages over plain old
index/flashcards.  My favorite is SuperMemo, but others are available and have
been mentioned on this list.

I hope this helps you some.

In Christ,
Ted

>. The other way is to personalize
> scripture.


Hi Mark,

as I am in Gemany I would like to ask
you what it means to " personalize "
scripture?

thanks

GOD Bless you

yours

<><

dino

I've been using the free SuperMemo 6.7 for DOS on my DOS HP200LX PDA so I can
take it anywhere I like, but I also purchased the commercial SuperMemo 2000.
SuperMemo versions are also available for the Palm Pilot and Pocket PC.

6.7 for DOS doesn't support multimedia, but works great for
memorizing scripture, studying Spanish, etc...   SuperMemo 7.0 for
Windows is also free, and has some multimedia support.  A version comparison
chart is here: http://www.supermemo.com/english/which.htm
You can download both SuperMemo 6.7 and 7.0 here:
http://www.supermemo.com/articles/soft/free.htm

--Ted

On 25 Oct 2002 12:27, dmyersrmci.net wrote:
From:  

> >
> I would like a copy of it. What version and format of super memo are
> you using with it.
>
> Don
>
> ============================================
> David,
> >
> > Incredible!!  Another fellow computer geek using SuperMemo to
> > memorize long passages!
> >
> > For anybody interested, I've written a computer program that will
> > convert scripture into file that you can import into SuperMemo,
> > which
is
> > (in my opinion), optimized to work best with SuperMemo.  It uses
> > ideas that I've found that work best for memorizing long passages in
> > the
Bible
> > or poetry, such as "chaining" verse chunks, sections of verses. You
> > tell my program where the various sections in the verses are, and it
> > creates a file with that you can import into SuperMemo or create
> > flash cards (question on one side, answer on the other).  I have a
> > Word template that that I use to make the flash cards.  The flash
> > cards help to memorize scripture easily whereever you are, and
SuperMemo
> > is a great (the best in my opinion) system to review what you've
> > memorized.  Chaining generally works better in the New Testament
> > than the Old Testament, especially poetry books.
> >
> > If anyone is interested, I have a zip file with the Perl program,
> > Word template, example flashcard Word file, and example input/output
> > files to use with SuperMemo.  I've bundled it all into a system
> > called EZ-Memory-Verse, and was going to put it on the Web someday
> > when it was polished, but that hasn't happened yet.  I'd be glad to
> > send
this
> > out to whoever wants a copy.
> >
> > --Ted
> >
> > On 23 Oct 2002 17:13, David Baldwin wrote:
> > From: David Baldwin 
> >
> >> Hey Mark,
> >>
> >> A question for those you who have memorized large portions of
> >> Scripture: How do you keep all your memorized work in your head all
> >> the time?  I've wrestled with this for many years now and recently
> >> came up with a system that I think will work.  I by no means claim
> >> that the system is perfect and would sure appreciate other ideas.
> >>
> >> For those who are interested I'll outline what I'm doing:
> >>
> >> 1)  Supermemo
> >> o   Supermemo is a memory program located at supermemo.com.  It's not
> >> exactly user-friendly and I wouldn't spring for the $40.00 price
> >> tag unless you're a computer geek as I am, but it does seem quite
> >> powerful. Basically, I've got it set up to quiz me on my Scripture
> >> memory on a daily basis.  Those passages I do well on I don't see
> >> again for a while. But those passages that I recite poorly I see
> >> quite frequently until I get them down!
> >>
> >> 2)  A microphone
> >> o   So if I just quoted a chapter, how do I know I really got every
> >> word correct?  Well I've got a microphone hooked up to my computer
> >> so that I can review and keep myself honest!
> >>
> >> 3)  Stay hungry!
> >> o   I realize that it is evidence of my own carnal nature, but
> >> sometimes memorizing Scripture is more a chore than a pleasure.  To
> >> combat this I look for opportunities to present the Bible on stage.
> >> Scripture is quite effective in oral presentation (I'm sure many of
> >> you own recordings of the Bible) and sharing that effectiveness
> >> with others is an opportunity that gives me joy and keeps me
> >> motivated.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance for input.
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

re:  Bethmonpeoplepc.com's great idea to put verses to music for memorization.

Experts say that the more senses you use while learning something the more
ingrained it becomes in memory.

How about using the verse numbers like hopscotch?  and reciting verses to
progress on the "gameboard"  this could be done with flash cards on the
ground or taped to various set locations in a house..   that way each verse
would be asociated more firmly with the verse number.    just an idea.  let
me know if it is useful at all.

katie

Hi there,
I have a desire to memorize Scripture too that's why i signed up. I'm from
Singapore and i'm 22 years old in my 2nd year of university. Studying Computer
Science. I wonder why i haven't got any mail from this mailing list
yet...hmm.....

Regards,
Sean

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