I am interested in how you heard about Supermemo and if it is working for
you.

Also, what is your age and have you had any feedback from older individuals
using this to improve their memory?

Thanks much,
Bill


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tay S C" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 11:21 AM
Subject: Words or ideas ?


> Hi everyone,
>
> It is very encouraging to find out that there is actually a list on the
web
> on memorising the word.I have been reminded of the vital need to memorise
> and meditate on the word recently,many years after starting on the
> navigators packs.
>
> Some one made the comment that memorising the topic and verse creates the
> situation where the mind is conditioned such that the topic and verse has
> to
> be repeated before the verse can be recalled.This convinced me of the
> advantages,in the long run,of memorising chapters of the bible instead.
>
> As I see it,there are two approaches.The vertical and the horizontal.From
> the postings,I perceive that most use the former,where a chapter is
> memorised word perfect before going to the next.The alternative is to
start
> with memorising the sections ,then the books of the bible,understanding
the
> main themes of each book , then each chapter.Once that is accomplished,
one
> can then proceed to memorise the detailed ideas of each chapter
expressing
> them in words as close to our chosen version as possible.
>
> The advantage of this method,which I intend to adopt,is that it is more
> realistic and achievable and enables a more balanced view of the whole
> bible.Has anyone tried this approach?
>
> I read somewhere that professors in Ethiopia have to memorise the entire
> bible to qualify for the job.It would be interesting to find out how they
> did it!
>
> Also,has anyone tried the supermemo software?It sets the frequency of
> review
> ,based on our self appraised performance,to optimise our time on task.The
> content to be memorised is programmed by the user, who may decide to
share
> it on the supermemo website,either for free or for a fee or produce a
> licenced CD Rom.So far there has been no programme for memorising the
> bible.Perhaps some one would like to consider it ?
> The URL is http://www.supermemo.com
>
> All the best,
>
> nezheng1
> _________________________________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
>
> Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at
> http://profiles.msn.com.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Dear Ben:

I appreciated your response to my input on Scripture memory.  I have found
that I am most consistent in memorizing Scripture when I meet with one or
more other men.  I would encourage you to pray for other men who have an
interest in building their walk with Jesus Christ through the Word.

I should mention that I taught a the Evangelical Theological College for
one
summer course in Addis Ababa in Ethiopia in 1998.  It was a great
experience
for me to spend a brief time in that part of Africa.  I have been praying
at
different time for the many needs there are in many parts of Africa.

May God continue to encourage you day by day through the Word.

in Christ,
Lloyd Douglas,
Genesis 18:27
----- Original Message -----
From: "ben bonni" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 8:21 AM
Subject: Re:From Ben


> Dear Douglas,
>
> Thank you for your mail.My Benjamin I am living west Africa contry of
> Togo.I
> have memorizing scripture for the past ten years.I am doing good in the
> Lord.I am learning the Roman 12 and hope by the end this month I will
> finished it.If you have any encouragement for me I will appreciate it
alot.
> God bless you for your endeavor.
> Ben
>
>
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Keith I have usually followed the Navigators material in the Topical Memory
System.  Right now I am teaching the original 2:7 material which
incorporate
Scripture memory in every course.

There are several suggestions that the material provides in the initial
courses.  I would like to know if your would like methods for memorizing or
suggested topics.

in Christ,
Lloyd,
1 Cor. 15:58
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Phillips" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 8:21 AM
Subject: Re:


> Thank you, send me a sample how to memorise Scripture.
>
> Keith
>
> At 04:45 PM 8/29/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >Randy:
> >
> >I commend you for your desire to take initiative at your age to memorize
> >Scripture.  I am one year older and I am working on retention for the
> >Topical Memory System package.  It has been great!  I have found
practical
> >situations on a daily basis in which I meditate on a specific verse
(i.e.
> >Isaiah 40:10  Do not fear, for I am with you, Do not anxiously look
about
> >for I am your God.  I will strengthen you, surely I will help you,
surely
> I
> >will uphold you with my righteous right hand.)
> >
> >With this system you follow a pattern -- topic, reference, verse [word
for
> >word], topic.  Review, review, review.  Meditate.
> >
> >Start with the first five assurance verses-- 1 John 5:11,12 -Salvation;
> >John
> >16:24-Answered prayer;
> >1 Cor. 10:13-Victory; 1 John 1:9-Forgiveness; Proverbs 3:5,6 - Guidance.
> >
> >If you have the opportunity as well, you can begin to encourage new
> >believers in their walk because these verses are a good way for them to
> >begin to rely on the truths of the Word.
> >
> >in Christ,
> >Lloyd Douglas,
> >Gals. 6:9,10
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Randy Nelson" 
> >To: 
> >Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 9:31 PM
> >
> >
> >> For years I have tried to memorize Scripture. There is a lot of verses
> >> in my head, but recalling the references have been difficult.  I have
> >> found myself in situations where I have been shown to not be the "work
> >> man" in the Lord that I should be.  I am 49 years old, and beleive it
is
> >> still not too late for me to get a better grasp on Scripture.  This is
> >> my desire for personal growth and for being a better witness.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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>
>
>

Hi Veda,
Here are a few Bible memorization tips that help me.
Become familiar with the context around the verse.  For example: Genesis
24:40 The Lord will send His angel and prosper my way. (This is not the
whole verse, but the part that I want to focus on.)   Know the story
surrounding the verse.   The Lord blesses Abraham for his faithfulness in
not withholding Isaac from sacrifice knowing God would still provide the
promise through Isaac by raising him up.  Invision Abraham,  an old man and
morning for his beloved wife Sarah. (23:1, 2).  Watch him bury her.
(23:19).
Abraham goes to his oldest, trusted servant asking him to get a wife for
his
son Isaac, the son of promise,  from his homeland (Genesis 24:2- 4) Abraham
reassures his servant that surely God will provide, He will send his angel
ahead of him to see to it that the journey is successful.  The servant is
familiar with what God has done in Abraham's life and shows us through his
prayer, that he embraces the same faith that Abraham demonstrated in his
life. (24:12 -14)  The servant if expecting God to answer as he waits by
the
desert well.  He watches carefully as a young girl comes to water the
camels
(24:20, 21) and he falls down in praise to God worshipping God for His
faithfulness and kindness. (24:26)  In your mind watch the servant,
Rebekah,
and the camels head home to Rebekah's brother,  Laban.  Notice how she is
dressed. Become familiar with the geographical area, the desert terrain,
their housing, their customs. See them greet each other and listen to the
servant explain the reason for his journey and how wonderfully faithful God
is in sending Rebekah.  Then the servant speaks the very words of the verse
that is the promise to me and you in our situations too.  "The Lord will
send His angels and prosper my way."   This is in the first person because
the promises to Abraham are also promises to you and to me.  The Bible is
full of personal promises that are prescriptions for healing, protection,
wisdom, etc.     I also write out the verse and see how many questions I
can
make out of the verse and answer my own  questions.  It helps to break down
the different grammatical parts, such as being especially alert for verbs,
etc.    When I do my devotions I pray different verses out loud often. I
write down the reverence with book, chapter and verse, but most of my
concentrating is only on the book and chapter. My mind usually picks up the
verse.  It helps me to connect events in my life with the numbers in the
verse, such as having my first child when I was 24 and noticing the
repetition of the two fours connecting chapter and verse.  It is helpful to
look up words in the verse in the dictionary, such as prosper.  Writing it
down on index cards helps too.  Use repetitious daily needs, as going to
the
bathroom, opening the refrigerator, getting a drink of water, etc. as times
to repeat your verse. Let them be triggers for review time.  Just eat the
verse savoring every aspect of it.  Reading the Bible Code  has given me a
new awareness of the dimension of the Word of God.  The words from the
Bible
are not flat. They have depth. They are like a hologram. The Bible, each
Scripture,  is like the top of the ocean that you can see with your eyes,
or
read with your mind, but there is an essence contained in the words of the
Bible that is deeper than the depth of the ocean. We know the surface of
the
verse, but there is a depth of meaning and promise beneath.  Our God is so
big and we can not fathom his majesty, and His Word is like Him.  I too
wish
I had much more ability to memorize and recall Scriptures.  Once when I had
a high fever.  As I rested in bed half asleep,  eues closed and I read the
Bible.  I read it in my mind, in my sub-conscience.  The state I was in was
a kind of sub-dream state, but as I was reading I marveled that what I was
reading was indeed the Word of God and it was accurate, and I saw myself on
the bed with a high fever, eyes closed with no book to look at.  This only
happened once, and it is a comfort to me that my sub-conscience knows a lot
more of the Word of God than my conscious mind does.   Putting your verses
to music is great and seems to increase retention for me.  I learned Psalm
91 through music and my  Sunday School Junior class of 5th and 6th graders
learned it with me.  You have that websight- Thy Word Creations.  They do
an
excellent job. Time is something I have too little of,  and my desire is
greater than what I actually achieve, but these little tips are offered as
something that has helped me.  It also helps to give your Scriptures as
"gifts" to another person by just telling them about a particular Scripture
I have given you  the gift of Genesis 24:40  tonight.  In the Love of
Christ, Vickie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Veda Huie" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 10:21 AM
Subject: MEMORIZATION


> HELLO,
> STUDYING THE WORD OF GOD HAS BECOME AN URGENT PRIORITY IN MY LIFE.  I AM
> HUNGRY FOR THE WORD TO TAKE PERMANENCY IN MY THOUGHT LIFE.  I AM A BLIND
> PERSON AND THE ONLY WAY FOR ME TO GAIN MORE OF THE WORD IS TO MEMORIZE
> IT.  I LISTEN TO THE BIBLE ON TAPE AND READ IT ON LINE AND EVEN TRY TO
KEEP
> MANY OF THE VERSES IN MY MEMORY BANK, BUT THEY DO NOT SEEM TO BE STAYING
> FOR LONG.  I CAN REPEAT THE VERSES IF I HEAR SOMEONE ELSE SAYING THEM,
BUT
> IT IS DIFFICULT TO RECALL THEM ON MY OWN.  I KNOW THAT I AM MISSING A LOT
> WHEN I CANNOT RECALL THE WORD OF GOD READILY.  IT IS MOST IMPORTANT TO ME
> AT THE TIME OF WITNESSING WHEN I NEED TO SHARE THE WORD WITH THE PERSON I
> AM WITNESSING TO AND CANNOT RECALL THE CORRECT VERSE AT THAT MOMENT.
>
> PLEASE HELP ME WITH YOUR ADVICE AS TO HOW I CAN ACHIEVE THIS GOAL WHICH
IS
> MOST IMPERATIVE TO ME IN MY SPIRITUAL GROWTH.
>
> VEDA.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I've found flash cards to be effective.

Given the nature of my job, I spend a lot of time on the highway. Instead
of
being the chore it used to be God directed me to turn it into a "Praise
Mobile" - a selection of cd's, time in prayer and just talking to God mixed
with the occasional flash card.

I've come to treasure my road trips as a result. God is good!!!

Patrick Salmon
CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lloyd Douglas" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: Re:From Ben


> Dear Ben:
>
> I appreciated your response to my input on Scripture memory.  I have
found
> that I am most consistent in memorizing Scripture when I meet with one or
> more other men.  I would encourage you to pray for other men who have an
> interest in building their walk with Jesus Christ through the Word.
>
> I should mention that I taught a the Evangelical Theological College for
> one
> summer course in Addis Ababa in Ethiopia in 1998.  It was a great
> experience
> for me to spend a brief time in that part of Africa.  I have been praying
> at
> different time for the many needs there are in many parts of Africa.
>
> May God continue to encourage you day by day through the Word.
>
> in Christ,
> Lloyd Douglas,
> Genesis 18:27
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ben bonni" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 8:21 AM
> Subject: Re:From Ben
>
>
> > Dear Douglas,
> >
> > Thank you for your mail.My Benjamin I am living west Africa contry of
> > Togo.I
> > have memorizing scripture for the past ten years.I am doing good in the
> > Lord.I am learning the Roman 12 and hope by the end this month I will
> > finished it.If you have any encouragement for me I will appreciate it
> alot.
> > God bless you for your endeavor.
> > Ben
> >
> >
> >
_________________________________________________________________________
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

It is never to late to " hide God's word in your heart:"  I have found
flashcards to be helpfull.  I have tried memory systems before but  lacked
(
at the time ) the singlemindedness to complete the program.  IThank you for
the tips and encouragement.  I'd like to begin in Hebrews.

Dear Vida,

My husband, Roger, will be home one Tuesday.

We have a blind friend who loves the Lord.  He and his wife live in Ohio. I
will forward your letter to him.  Hope he can be helpful!

In Christ,

Suzanne

Click here: Welcome to
The Three Thirty Club. Meditate! Memorize! Today!  This is a system our
church has used for about 25 years.  If used as instructed, it is a good
way
to teach your new people to memorize scripture.

Jim Kephart

Hi Bill,

I came across SuperMemo while doing a search on memorisation on the web.I
have not tried the system myself.I feel that the system is useful as it
enables one to do self asessment and it then sets the review frequency
accordingly,automaticallly.As I mentioned, no one seems to haved used it to
memorise scripture before.

yours,

nezheng1


>From: "William A. Shobel, CFP, CMFC" 
>Reply-To: biblememistar.ca
>To: biblememistar.ca
>Subject: Re: Words or ideas ?
>Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 17:05:57 -0500
>
>I am interested in how you heard about Supermemo and if it is working for
>you.
>
>Also, what is your age and have you had any feedback from older
individuals
>using this to improve their memory?
>
>Thanks much,
>Bill
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tay S C" 
>To: 
>Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 11:21 AM
>Subject: Words or ideas ?
>
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > It is very encouraging to find out that there is actually a list on the
>web
> > on memorising the word.I have been reminded of the vital need to
>memorise
> > and meditate on the word recently,many years after starting on the
> > navigators packs.
> >
> > Some one made the comment that memorising the topic and verse creates
>the
> > situation where the mind is conditioned such that the topic and verse
>has
> > to
> > be repeated before the verse can be recalled.This convinced me of the
> > advantages,in the long run,of memorising chapters of the bible instead.
> >
> > As I see it,there are two approaches.The vertical and the
>horizontal.From
> > the postings,I perceive that most use the former,where a chapter is
> > memorised word perfect before going to the next.The alternative is to
>start
> > with memorising the sections ,then the books of the bible,understanding
>the
> > main themes of each book , then each chapter.Once that is accomplished,
>one
> > can then proceed to memorise the detailed ideas of each chapter
>expressing
> > them in words as close to our chosen version as possible.
> >
> > The advantage of this method,which I intend to adopt,is that it is more
> > realistic and achievable and enables a more balanced view of the whole
> > bible.Has anyone tried this approach?
> >
> > I read somewhere that professors in Ethiopia have to memorise the
entire
> > bible to qualify for the job.It would be interesting to find out how
>they
> > did it!
> >
> > Also,has anyone tried the supermemo software?It sets the frequency of
> > review
> > ,based on our self appraised performance,to optimise our time on
>task.The
> > content to be memorised is programmed by the user, who may decide to
>share
> > it on the supermemo website,either for free or for a fee or produce a
> > licenced CD Rom.So far there has been no programme for memorising the
> > bible.Perhaps some one would like to consider it ?
> > The URL is http://www.supermemo.com
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > nezheng1
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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can i join in too?
what part of Hebrews

At 10:21 AM 09/10/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Dear Douglas,
>
>Thank you for your mail.My Benjamin I am living west Africa contry of
>Togo.I

Thank you for your email, Benjamin! I'm sure the Lord will bless you and
use you as you continue to memorize Scripture. I'll send you some news and
prayer requests from here also, so we can keep in touch - and so you can
have a part in reaching some of the unreached people here.

What do you do there?

Yours in Christ,


Roger Doriot
http://www.jesus-connect.net/world/jesus/Doriot

Yes ride on Patrick,

I too spend a lot of time on the high way every day.  As well my car is
sure
is a Praise Mobile, may the Lord bless you in everyway.  i also have a
flash
card in the, at work place, in the kitchen....

My prayer this days is for the LORD to give us wisdom on how to use our
time
wisely, i always hear christians complaining about not having time to pray
or read the word. How can then will we be able to survive the dark days
that's ahead of us?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick Salmon [mailto:psalmoncleanweb.net]
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 5:52 PM
> To: biblememistar.ca
> Subject: Re: Re:From Ben
>
>
> I've found flash cards to be effective.
>
> Given the nature of my job, I spend a lot of time on the highway. Instead
> of
> being the chore it used to be God directed me to turn it into a "Praise
> Mobile" - a selection of cd's, time in prayer and just talking to
> God mixed
> with the occasional flash card.
>
> I've come to treasure my road trips as a result. God is good!!!
>
> Patrick Salmon
> CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lloyd Douglas" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 6:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Re:From Ben
>
>
> > Dear Ben:
> >
> > I appreciated your response to my input on Scripture memory.  I have
> found
> > that I am most consistent in memorizing Scripture when I meet
> with one or
> > more other men.  I would encourage you to pray for other men who have
an
> > interest in building their walk with Jesus Christ through the Word.
> >
> > I should mention that I taught a the Evangelical Theological College
for
> > one
> > summer course in Addis Ababa in Ethiopia in 1998.  It was a great
> > experience
> > for me to spend a brief time in that part of Africa.  I have
> been praying
> > at
> > different time for the many needs there are in many parts of Africa.
> >
> > May God continue to encourage you day by day through the Word.
> >
> > in Christ,
> > Lloyd Douglas,
> > Genesis 18:27
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ben bonni" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 8:21 AM
> > Subject: Re:From Ben
> >
> >
> > > Dear Douglas,
> > >
> > > Thank you for your mail.My Benjamin I am living west Africa contry of
> > > Togo.I
> > > have memorizing scripture for the past ten years.I am doing
> good in the
> > > Lord.I am learning the Roman 12 and hope by the end this month I will
> > > finished it.If you have any encouragement for me I will appreciate it
> > alot.
> > > God bless you for your endeavor.
> > > Ben
> > >
> > >
> > >
> _________________________________________________________________________
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> http://www.hotmail.com.
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> > > http://profiles.msn.com.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Amen, Patrick!

I do the same thing! I took a job 4 years ago that requires an hour and
15 minute commute. I was complaining to God about it one day early in the
job and He reminded me that it was extra quiet time with Him! Well, I
started putting the time to good use with some excellend praise Cd's and
some verse index cards and now I wouldn't trade my regular time with Him
in the car each day for anything. People will ask me how I have time to
memorize scripture and I tell them my story. After over three years of
this process I have over 500 verses memorized. I divide them up by days
of the week and review them for 30 minutes of each trip that day. I
always have a few new verses to be learning and concentrate on them when
I'm stopped at lights or in traffic jams [since I have to actually read
them].

I have a couple web pages and discussion groups started. The information
is at the bottom of this email.

Lorry

On Fri, 06 Oct 2000 16:52:13 -0500 "Patrick Salmon"
 writes:
> I've found flash cards to be effective.
>
> Given the nature of my job, I spend a lot of time on the highway.
> Instead
> of
> being the chore it used to be God directed me to turn it into a
> "Praise
> Mobile" - a selection of cd's, time in prayer and just talking to
> God mixed
> with the occasional flash card.
>
> I've come to treasure my road trips as a result. God is good!!!
>
> Patrick Salmon

Lorry Schoenly
Spiritual Disciplines Webpage:
http://www.suite101.com/myhome.cfm/spiritual_life
Spiritual Disciplines Email List:
http://www.egroups.com/group/spiritualdisciplines
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http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com:6010/ivyhall/lorryschoenly/
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