Version 3.4.b of the InVerse Scripture memorization software is now available at
no charge from the following locations:
http://home.att.net/~bibleinverse/Download/InVerseSetup.exe
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/InVerseSetup.exe

The official homepage is at:
http://www.bibleinverse.org

There is a screen shot at:
http://home.att.net/~bibleinverse/Download/Psalms_119_11.jpg

There are a series of 17 animated slide shows that demonstrate InVerse at:
http://home.att.net/~eeinverse/training.htm

New for 3.4: Print-Passage
New for 3.3.02: Select-Translation
New for 3.3.01: Add-Passage, Edit-Passage

For His glory and honor,
Lynn Allan

Dear All,



I'm so very pleased to have found this discussion list on Scripture memory!
Already I've found much help by simply reading through the archives of
yesteryear's discussions.  (I should clarify - some, not all of the archives, as
they're rather extensive.)  I look forward to 'virtually' getting to know you
through this correspondence and hope that we will be mutually encouraged by one
another's faith.



I suppose I need to give the obligatory introduction of myself now!  I began
memorizing Scripture about 10 years ago as a result of the excellent example of
my wife.  She was always quoting Scripture and I was impressed but skeptical as
to the ROI; i.e., return on investment. Certainly I could appreciate the
discipline required to memorize but questioned the value to do so as I could
read large passages much more easily than memorizing even a few verses.  I
thought to myself, however, that I couldn't knock what I hadn't tried, so I
plunged in and began an adventure that has more greatly affected my life than
anything else during these past ten years.



In addition to memorizing the Word, I've been very interested in presenting the
fruits of my labor in theatrical settings.  I've found that dramatically
presenting Scripture while remaining faithful to the text provides insight and
encouragement to audiences - insight into the meaning of the text and
encouragement to memorize and meditate on God's Word.  Thus I'm particularly
interested in hearing from others who share a common interest.



In one of the archived emails I read of a gentleman intending to memorize the
New Testament over the course of 10 years.  I wish I could say I had learned so
much of the Word over the 10 years I've been memorizing but, alas, I'm no where
close.  I've realized as I've contemplated the math of my latest project - The
Acts of the Apostles - that I must pick up the pace and do some serious,
disciplined study if I expect to finish the book in any reasonable amount of
time.  I hope that this group might play some role in holding my feet to the
fire to insure that this happens.



In Christ,




David Baldwin


-----Original Message-----
From: biblememmemoryverses.org [mailto:biblememmemoryverses.org]
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 10:13 PM
To: David Baldwin
Subject: Welcome to the Biblemem list!


dbaldwinperformart.net has been added to the biblemem mailing list.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Welcome to the Bible Memory Discussion List
------------------------------------------------------------------------
--

"How can a young man keep his way pure? By living  according to your word. I
seek you with all my heart;  do not let me stray from your commands. I have
hidden  your word in my heart    that I might not sin against you."
Psalm 119:9-11


The Bible memory list is designed to encourage friendly discussion on the
topic of  Bible memorization.   Please post a message to the list to
introduce yourself. Messages to the list should be sent to:

biblememmemoryverses.org

If you read through the scriptures, you will easily see that knowledge of the
word of God is vital to a close relationship with God.  Of course, head
knowledge alone is not good  enough.  It must be understood and applied to your
life.  Meditation, prayer and Bible study play a key role in understanding.
Clearly, if you have memorized portions of the word of God, it makes meditation
much more profitable. Also, all who have grown to a certain level of maturity
must teach the things they know to others. For a brief article on why  scripture
 memorization is important to the growth of a Christian, you may want to read my
article at http://www.memoryverses.org/why.htm.

But, to master this discipline is very difficult ...

Purposes of this list:

- To collect together a group of people who have a desire to make the
memorization of scripture and meditation on what has been memorized a
significant portion of their lives.

- I would like to bring together a group of people whose goal is to commit to
memory large portions of Scripture.  My ultimate goal,  is to memorize as much
of the New testiment as I can, and to take as many people along with me as I
can.

- These people can share ideas, encourage one another, set goals and be
accountable to one another for progress and be praying for one another.

- To discuss how we can help others, such as our children, Sunday School class
and Church friends, etc., learn to love memorizing scripture.

- To discuss various tools, props and aids which are effective in the
memorization and review of scripture. This includes everything from verse cards
to mnemonic devices.  If your goal is to memorize many chapters of scripture,
then the organization and presentation of  the material is critical. These tools
and methods must be developed.

- To discuss how time and other activities can be scheduled to allow for what we
want to accomplish, while still maintaining balance in all other areas of life.

- To share the blessings of knowing the word of God.

- Memorization of information is not enough. It must be learned permanently, it
must be understood and applied. Review, study and meditation is a key  component
of any scripture memory system. Discussion of these topics is welcome.


LIST INFORMATION

1) To post to the entire list, send to biblememmemoryverses.org

2) To unsubscribe from the Bible memory discussion list, send a message to
biblememmemoryverses.org with the following line in the body of the
message:

unsubscribe biblememory

3) An text archive of past Bible Memory list posts will be available through the
Scripture Memory Connection web site at:

http://www.memoryverses.org

---------------------
List Guidelines
---------------------

It is asked that you follow these guidelines when posting to the list:

1) The list is open to all Christians who believe in salvation by faith alone
through the work of Jesus Christ who is our Lord and our GOD.

2) This is not a forum to discuss the merrits of one Bible translation over
another. This is also not a forum to discuss theology unless it  is directly
relevent to the theme of memorization of Scripture as  defined above. Please do
not stray from this topic.

3) It is assumed that the Bible is the inspired, inerrant, word of God and as
such has authority over our lives.

4) Do not send requests for personal information to the entire list. These types
of messages should be sent directly to the individual.

5) Do not make negative personal comments to or about any individual  on the
list.  Ideas are fair game for debate, but the individuals who  hold these ideas
should be treated with respect.

6) Please limit the amount of quoted text when you reply to a somebody's post.
Generally a sentence or two is enough.

---------
List Owner: Stephen Simpson (ssimpsonmemoryverses.org)
http://www.memoryverses.org  - The Scripture Memory Connection

Hey Mark,

A question for those you who have memorized large portions of Scripture: How do
you keep all your memorized work in your head all the time?  I've wrestled with
this for many years now and recently came up with a system that I think will
work.  I by no means claim that the system is perfect and would sure appreciate
other ideas.

For those who are interested I'll outline what I'm doing:

1)  Supermemo
o   Supermemo is a memory program located at supermemo.com.  It's
not exactly user-friendly and I wouldn't spring for the $40.00 price tag unless
you're a computer geek as I am, but it does seem quite powerful. Basically, I've
got it set up to quiz me on my Scripture memory on a daily basis.  Those
passages I do well on I don't see again for a while. But those passages that I
recite poorly I see quite frequently until I get them down!

2)  A microphone
o   So if I just quoted a chapter, how do I know I really got every
word correct?  Well I've got a microphone hooked up to my computer so that I can
review and keep myself honest!

3)  Stay hungry!
o   I realize that it is evidence of my own carnal nature, but
sometimes memorizing Scripture is more a chore than a pleasure.  To combat this
I look for opportunities to present the Bible on stage. Scripture is quite
effective in oral presentation (I'm sure many of you own recordings of the
Bible) and sharing that effectiveness with others is an opportunity that gives
me joy and keeps me motivated.

Thanks in advance for input.

David

Hello Everyone,

We are a homeschooling family of three, Mom, 16 yr old son, and 11 yr old
daughter. It's been a rough year for us with chronic illnesses of Mother's and
Son's that keep us going to the doctor quite frequently. We tend to stay home a
lot, now being winter in Minnesota. God has blessed us with several pets to care
for and love: two Parakeets, a little kitten and now a full grown iguana for
Son's 16th birthday.

As a single parent, and being seriously ill at times and other serious is sues,
I have implored my children to seek out their own relationships with God and to
pray for our family an others, so we can survive anything that comes our way.

I have a terrible time with short term memory lately, and need to take shorter
passages. I know what God's word means...but cannot always quote exact scripture
or even be able to remember where it is...just that I know what it says/means.
I pray God will heal us ( in many ways) all through this, and the time is now,
more than ever to get God's Word in our hearts.

The ~Duv~ family

Version 3.4.b of the InVerse Scripture memorization software is now available at
no charge from the following locations:
http://home.att.net/~bibleinverse/Download/InVerseSetup.exe
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/InVerseSetup.exe

The official homepage is at:
http://www.bibleinverse.org

There is a screen shot at:
http://home.att.net/~bibleinverse/Download/Psalms_119_11.jpg

There are a series of 17 animated slide shows that demonstrate InVerse
at:
http://home.att.net/~eeinverse/training.htm

New for 3.4: Print-Passage
New for 3.3.02: Select-Translation
New for 3.3.01: Add-Passage, Edit-Passage

For His glory and honor,
Lynn Allan

David,

Incredible!!  Another fellow computer geek using SuperMemo to memorize long
passages!

For anybody interested, I've written a computer program that will convert
scripture into file that you can import into SuperMemo, which is (in my
opinion), optimized to work best with SuperMemo.  It uses ideas that I've found
that work best for memorizing long passages in the Bible or poetry, such as
"chaining" verse chunks, sections of verses. You tell my program where the
various sections in the verses are, and it creates a file with that you can
import into SuperMemo or create flash cards (question on one side, answer on the
other).  I have a Word template that that I use to make the flash cards.  The
flash cards help to memorize scripture easily whereever you are, and SuperMemo
is a great (the best in my opinion) system to review what you've memorized.
Chaining generally works better in the New Testament than the Old Testament,
especially poetry books.

If anyone is interested, I have a zip file with the Perl program, Word template,
example flashcard Word file, and example input/output files to use with
SuperMemo.  I've bundled it all into a system called EZ-Memory-Verse, and was
going to put it on the Web someday when it was polished, but that hasn't
happened yet.  I'd be glad to send this out to whoever wants a copy.

--Ted

On 23 Oct 2002 17:13, David Baldwin wrote:
From: David Baldwin 

> Hey Mark,
>
> A question for those you who have memorized large portions of
> Scripture: How do you keep all your memorized work in your head all
> the time?  I've wrestled with this for many years now and recently
> came up with a system that I think will work.  I by no means claim
> that the system is perfect and would sure appreciate other ideas.
>
> For those who are interested I'll outline what I'm doing:
>
> 1)  Supermemo
> o   Supermemo is a memory program located at supermemo.com.  It's
> not exactly user-friendly and I wouldn't spring for the $40.00 price
> tag unless you're a computer geek as I am, but it does seem quite
> powerful. Basically, I've got it set up to quiz me on my Scripture
> memory on a daily basis.  Those passages I do well on I don't see
> again for a while. But those passages that I recite poorly I see quite
> frequently until I get them down!
>
> 2)  A microphone
> o   So if I just quoted a chapter, how do I know I really got every
> word correct?  Well I've got a microphone hooked up to my computer so
> that I can review and keep myself honest!
>
> 3)  Stay hungry!
> o   I realize that it is evidence of my own carnal nature, but
> sometimes memorizing Scripture is more a chore than a pleasure.  To
> combat this I look for opportunities to present the Bible on stage.
> Scripture is quite effective in oral presentation (I'm sure many of
> you own recordings of the Bible) and sharing that effectiveness with
> others is an opportunity that gives me joy and keeps me motivated.
>
> Thanks in advance for input.
>
> David
>
>
>


----------------------------------------------------------------
Ted Peterson                  |  IRE/NICAR
Webmaster                   |  http://www.ire.org
(573) 884-7321                |  http://www.nicar.org
----------------------------------------------------------------

My introduction:  I am 31, married with 2 sons (9 & 13).  I teach a 7th
- 12th grade Sunday School class and lead 1rst through 6th grade children's
ministry.  I have been a Christian since I was 11, but left the church when I
was younger and have just returned to follow Christ in the past two years.

I have just started training 4th, 5th, and 6th graders for Bible Drill. I am
really excited for two reasons.  I am really excited about the impact that
memorizing scripture will have on these children's lives. We have never done
Bible Drill in my church and it has not been done in my association for some
time.  God has put it on my heart to revive this useful tool for the children in
my area.  I also am excited because I myself have not commited many scriptures
to memory.  We also will be memorizing the 66 books of the Bible in order
(another thing that I have not done).  I will be starting small with single
verses.  I would like information from others about teaching scripture memory to
children in this age group.  If this is not the proper forum for this
discussion, then please visit the message board on my website.  You can go
directly to my site at http://home1.gte.net/res1ahgs/index.html.  I also have
the information about Bible Drill if anyone is interested in starting it in
their area.

God Bless,
Angela

Hi Nancy,

I have short verses on cassette that may help you.

I have a contract with Zondervan, so any NIV verses you want, I'm able to make
for you.

Here's my site:

Bob Moran
Peace, hope, joy from Bible Memory Time. FREE Sample!
Click here: http://www.cgscorp.com/bmt


-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Paurus [mailto:Duv002msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 6:14 PM
To: biblememmemoryverses.org
Subject: Hello, we are new


Hello Everyone,

We are a homeschooling family of three, Mom, 16 yr old son, and 11 yr old
daughter. It's been a rough year for us with chronic illnesses of Mother's and
Son's that keep us going to the doctor quite frequently. We tend to stay home a
lot, now being winter in Minnesota. God has blessed us with several pets to care
for and love: two Parakeets, a little kitten and now a full grown iguana for
Son's 16th birthday.

As a single parent, and being seriously ill at times and other serious is sues,
I have implored my children to seek out their own relationships with God and to
pray for our family an others, so we can survive anything that comes our way.

I have a terrible time with short term memory lately, and need to take shorter
passages. I know what God's word means...but cannot always quote exact scripture
or even be able to remember where it is...just that I know what it says/means.
I pray God will heal us ( in many ways) all through this, and the time is now,
more than ever to get God's Word in our hearts.

The ~Duv~ family

How does the Microphone work to let you know you have it right. What type are
using.

Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Baldwin" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:13 PM
Subject: Memorizing long passages


> Hey Mark,
>
> A question for those you who have memorized large portions of
> Scripture: How do you keep all your memorized work in your head all
> the time?  I've wrestled with this for many years now and recently
> came up with a system that I think will work.  I by no means claim
> that the system is perfect and would sure appreciate other ideas.
>
> For those who are interested I'll outline what I'm doing:
>
> 1)  Supermemo
> o   Supermemo is a memory program located at supermemo.com.  It's
> not exactly user-friendly and I wouldn't spring for the $40.00 price
> tag unless you're a computer geek as I am, but it does seem quite
> powerful. Basically, I've got it set up to quiz me on my Scripture
> memory on a daily basis.  Those passages I do well on I don't see
> again for a while. But those passages that I recite poorly I see quite
> frequently until I get them down!
>
> 2)  A microphone
> o   So if I just quoted a chapter, how do I know I really got every
> word correct?  Well I've got a microphone hooked up to my computer so
> that I can review and keep myself honest!
>
> 3)  Stay hungry!
> o   I realize that it is evidence of my own carnal nature, but
> sometimes memorizing Scripture is more a chore than a pleasure.  To
> combat this I look for opportunities to present the Bible on stage.
> Scripture is quite effective in oral presentation (I'm sure many of
> you own recordings of the Bible) and sharing that effectiveness with
> others is an opportunity that gives me joy and keeps me motivated.
>
> Thanks in advance for input.
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>

Lynn, this looks good. Do you know any such s/w on Palm OS ? THanks, Victor

-----Original Message-----
From: Lynn David Allan [mailto:l.allanworldnet.att.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:14 AM
To: biblememmemoryverses.org
Subject: InVerse freeware: PrintPassage update 3.4.b available


Version 3.4.b of the InVerse Scripture memorization software is now available at
no charge from the following locations:
http://home.att.net/~bibleinverse/Download/InVerseSetup.exe
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/InVerseSetup.exe

The official homepage is at:
http://www.bibleinverse.org

There is a screen shot at:
http://home.att.net/~bibleinverse/Download/Psalms_119_11.jpg

There are a series of 17 animated slide shows that demonstrate InVerse
at:
http://home.att.net/~eeinverse/training.htm

New for 3.4: Print-Passage
New for 3.3.02: Select-Translation
New for 3.3.01: Add-Passage, Edit-Passage

For His glory and honor,
Lynn Allan

Which version of Super Memo did you purchase.

Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Baldwin" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:13 PM
Subject: Memorizing long passages


> Hey Mark,
>
> A question for those you who have memorized large portions of
> Scripture: How do you keep all your memorized work in your head all
> the time?  I've wrestled with this for many years now and recently
> came up with a system that I think will work.  I by no means claim
> that the system is perfect and would sure appreciate other ideas.
>
> For those who are interested I'll outline what I'm doing:
>
> 1)  Supermemo
> o   Supermemo is a memory program located at supermemo.com.  It's
> not exactly user-friendly and I wouldn't spring for the $40.00 price
> tag unless you're a computer geek as I am, but it does seem quite
> powerful. Basically, I've got it set up to quiz me on my Scripture
> memory on a daily basis.  Those passages I do well on I don't see
> again for a while. But those passages that I recite poorly I see quite
> frequently until I get them down!
>
> 2)  A microphone
> o   So if I just quoted a chapter, how do I know I really got every
> word correct?  Well I've got a microphone hooked up to my computer so
> that I can review and keep myself honest!
>
> 3)  Stay hungry!
> o   I realize that it is evidence of my own carnal nature, but
> sometimes memorizing Scripture is more a chore than a pleasure.  To
> combat this I look for opportunities to present the Bible on stage.
> Scripture is quite effective in oral presentation (I'm sure many of
> you own recordings of the Bible) and sharing that effectiveness with
> others is an opportunity that gives me joy and keeps me motivated.
>
> Thanks in advance for input.
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>

My advice to you is to take the verses that you love so much, whether they are
long or short and divide the verse up in to 2 or 3 parts, then try to memorize
each part. That way you'll remember the verse in parts.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Paurus [mailto:Duv002msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:14 PM
To: biblememmemoryverses.org
Subject: Hello, we are new


Hello Everyone,

We are a homeschooling family of three, Mom, 16 yr old son, and 11 yr old
daughter. It's been a rough year for us with chronic illnesses of Mother's and
Son's that keep us going to the doctor quite frequently. We tend to stay home a
lot, now being winter in Minnesota. God has blessed us with several pets to care
for and love: two Parakeets, a little kitten and now a full grown iguana for
Son's 16th birthday.

As a single parent, and being seriously ill at times and other serious is sues,
I have implored my children to seek out their own relationships with God and to
pray for our family an others, so we can survive anything that comes our way.

I have a terrible time with short term memory lately, and need to take shorter
passages. I know what God's word means...but cannot always quote exact scripture
or even be able to remember where it is...just that I know what it says/means.
I pray God will heal us ( in many ways) all through this, and the time is now,
more than ever to get God's Word in our hearts.

The ~Duv~ family

Hi Mark, There is 2 other ways to memorize scripture:one is to divide the verse
up into 2, 3 or 4 parts. Then try to memorize each one and then the other til
you've completed all of them. The other way is to personalize scripture.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Baldwin [mailto:dbaldwinperformart.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:14 PM
To: biblememmemoryverses.org
Subject: Memorizing long passages


Hey Mark,

A question for those you who have memorized large portions of Scripture: How do
you keep all your memorized work in your head all the time?  I've wrestled with
this for many years now and recently came up with a system that I think will
work.  I by no means claim that the system is perfect and would sure appreciate
other ideas.

For those who are interested I'll outline what I'm doing:

1)  Supermemo
o   Supermemo is a memory program located at supermemo.com.  It's
not exactly user-friendly and I wouldn't spring for the $40.00 price tag unless
you're a computer geek as I am, but it does seem quite powerful. Basically, I've
got it set up to quiz me on my Scripture memory on a daily basis.  Those
passages I do well on I don't see again for a while. But those passages that I
recite poorly I see quite frequently until I get them down!

2)  A microphone
o   So if I just quoted a chapter, how do I know I really got every
word correct?  Well I've got a microphone hooked up to my computer so that I can
review and keep myself honest!

3)  Stay hungry!
o   I realize that it is evidence of my own carnal nature, but
sometimes memorizing Scripture is more a chore than a pleasure.  To combat this
I look for opportunities to present the Bible on stage. Scripture is quite
effective in oral presentation (I'm sure many of you own recordings of the
Bible) and sharing that effectiveness with others is an opportunity that gives
me joy and keeps me motivated.

Thanks in advance for input.

David

We believe the entire Word is inspired by God Himself. But let's face it: we
don't memorise the first nine chapters of 1 Chronicles, do we? Some verses are
more important to memorise then others.

What I want to do is to make a list of verses that are important to memorise. I
want this list to be as complete and interdenominational as possible. So if
anyone has such a list for personal use as a computer text file, please mail it
to terrydiscovery.nl

Also, if anyone is interested in the resulting list, let me know.

Terry

Hi!

I'm new to the list also, and looking forward to "meeting" everyone.  I seem to
like to memorize medium size portions of scripture - enough to paint a picture -
between 3 and 15 verses. My biggest challenge is that long term, I'll remember
the passages, but not always the Book reference. I'd love any suggestions!

Like Nancy, I am a homeschooling mom of two, although mine are younger,
Kindergarten and 1st grade.  So far, we have used song to incorporate Bible
memory with the kids.=20

I'm so thrilled to have found this list, and correspond with people with common
goals. Thanks in advance for your input!

Beth

It's a great thing to focus on God's word...

"I have restrained my feet from every evil way,
That I may keep Thy word.
I have not turned aside from Thine ordinances,
For Thou Thyself hast taught me."
(Psalm 119:101-102)

"Make me know Thy ways, O Lord;
Teach me Thy paths.
Lead me in Thy truth and teach me,
For Thou art the God of my salvation;
For Thee I wait all the day."
(Psalm 25:4-5)

He Himself will teach you as you soak in His word.
May God richly bless you and make you fruitful.
SW

Hi Victor,

Thanks for the kind words regarding InVerse ver 3.4.b.  I'm not aware of
anything that is roughly equivalent for the Palm OS. The only thing I found that
was close was a list of "101 verses every Christian should know" for the Palm in
a pdc file. (I incorporated most of those verses into the InVerse program.)
There are no doubt Bible translations that can be installed on a Palm OS, but
they would not be oriented to memorization.

One of my eventual goals is to convert InVerse for use with the Palm OS and
WinCe. Lately, I've been looking into turning InVerse into a Web application,
possibly using PHP and MySQL.

For His glory and honor,
Lynn Allan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kin Sing Lau" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: InVerse freeware: PrintPassage update 3.4.b available


> Lynn, this looks good. Do you know any such s/w on Palm OS ? THanks,
Victor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lynn David Allan [mailto:l.allanworldnet.att.net]
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:14 AM
> To: biblememmemoryverses.org
> Subject: InVerse freeware: PrintPassage update 3.4.b available
>
>
> Version 3.4.b of the InVerse Scripture memorization software is now
> available at no charge from the following locations:
> http://home.att.net/~bibleinverse/Download/InVerseSetup.exe
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/InVerseSetup.exe
>

Hello Beth,

I also tend to prefer longer passages, rather than a verse or partial "snippet"
of a verse. However, in everyday usage, it seems rarely appropriate to quote
more than a verse at a time. I've gravitated toward a pattern of carefully
memorizing a verse or verses (which I consider a passage), and being very
familiar with its context (verses before and after). For me, this allows
meditation on many, many more passages. I've gotten to be less of a "purist"
over time regarding knowing the passage exactly. There are certainly others who
disagree with this approach, and strongly recommend precision.

A good example of the importance of "context". Eph 6:4 starts with: Fathers, do
not exasperate your children

But, of course, the surrounding context makes it clear that children are to obey
their parents and brought up according to Biblical principles.

If you are open to computer based approaches, there are several members of this
list that have software programs that facilitate scripture memorization,
including Stephen Simpson, the owner/moderator of this list. His very useful
"Scripture Memory System" is at: http://www.memoryverses.org/smsw.shtml

Another free alternative I would humbly suggest is the InVerse Scripture
Memorization program (which I am partially responsible for). It is available
at:
http://www.bibleinverse.org or http://home.att.net/~bibleinverse

Regards,
Lynn Allan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Beth Mon" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:14 PM
Subject: Introduction


> Hi!
>
> I'm new to the list also, and looking forward to "meeting" everyone.
> I seem to like to memorize medium size portions of scripture - enough
> to paint a picture - between 3 and 15 verses. My biggest challenge is
> that long term, I'll remember the passages, but not always the Book
> reference. I'd love any suggestions!
>
> Like Nancy, I am a homeschooling mom of two, although mine are
> younger, Kindergarten and 1st grade.  So far, we have used song to
> incorporate Bible memory with the kids.=20
>
> I'm so thrilled to have found this list, and correspond with people
> with common goals. Thanks in advance for your input!
>
> Beth
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

>  I have the same question regards using with a palm.

Don

====================================
Lynn, this looks good. Do you know any such s/w on Palm OS ? THanks,
> Victor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lynn David Allan [mailto:l.allanworldnet.att.net]
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:14 AM
> To: biblememmemoryverses.org
> Subject: InVerse freeware: PrintPassage update 3.4.b available
>
>
> Version 3.4.b of the InVerse Scripture memorization software is now
> available at no charge from the following locations:
> http://home.att.net/~bibleinverse/Download/InVerseSetup.exe
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/InVerseSetup.exe
>
> The official homepage is at:
> http://www.bibleinverse.org
>
> There is a screen shot at:
> http://home.att.net/~bibleinverse/Download/Psalms_119_11.jpg
>
> There are a series of 17 animated slide shows that demonstrate InVerse
> at:
> http://home.att.net/~eeinverse/training.htm
>
> New for 3.4: Print-Passage
> New for 3.3.02: Select-Translation
> New for 3.3.01: Add-Passage, Edit-Passage
>
> For His glory and honor,
> Lynn Allan

>
I would like a copy of it. What version and format of super memo are you using
with it.

Don

============================================
David,
>
> Incredible!!  Another fellow computer geek using SuperMemo to memorize
> long passages!
>
> For anybody interested, I've written a computer program that will
> convert scripture into file that you can import into SuperMemo, which
> is (in my opinion), optimized to work best with SuperMemo.  It uses
> ideas that I've found that work best for memorizing long passages in
> the Bible or poetry, such as "chaining" verse chunks, sections of
> verses. You tell my program where the various sections in the verses
> are, and it creates a file with that you can import into SuperMemo or
> create flash cards (question on one side, answer on the other).  I
> have a Word template that that I use to make the flash cards.  The
> flash cards help to memorize scripture easily whereever you are, and
> SuperMemo is a great (the best in my opinion) system to review what
> you've memorized.  Chaining generally works better in the New
> Testament than the Old Testament, especially poetry books.
>
> If anyone is interested, I have a zip file with the Perl program, Word
> template, example flashcard Word file, and example input/output files
> to use with SuperMemo.  I've bundled it all into a system called
> EZ-Memory-Verse, and was going to put it on the Web someday when it
> was polished, but that hasn't happened yet.  I'd be glad to send this
> out to whoever wants a copy.
>
> --Ted
>
> On 23 Oct 2002 17:13, David Baldwin wrote:
> From: David Baldwin 
>
>> Hey Mark,
>>
>> A question for those you who have memorized large portions of
>> Scripture: How do you keep all your memorized work in your head all
>> the time?  I've wrestled with this for many years now and recently
>> came up with a system that I think will work.  I by no means claim
>> that the system is perfect and would sure appreciate other ideas.
>>
>> For those who are interested I'll outline what I'm doing:
>>
>> 1)  Supermemo
>> o   Supermemo is a memory program located at supermemo.com.  It's not
>> exactly user-friendly and I wouldn't spring for the $40.00 price tag
>> unless you're a computer geek as I am, but it does seem quite
>> powerful. Basically, I've got it set up to quiz me on my Scripture
>> memory on a daily basis.  Those passages I do well on I don't see
>> again for a while. But those passages that I recite poorly I see
>> quite frequently until I get them down!
>>
>> 2)  A microphone
>> o   So if I just quoted a chapter, how do I know I really got every
>> word correct?  Well I've got a microphone hooked up to my computer so
>> that I can review and keep myself honest!
>>
>> 3)  Stay hungry!
>> o   I realize that it is evidence of my own carnal nature, but
>> sometimes memorizing Scripture is more a chore than a pleasure.  To
>> combat this I look for opportunities to present the Bible on stage.
>> Scripture is quite effective in oral presentation (I'm sure many of
>> you own recordings of the Bible) and sharing that effectiveness with
>> others is an opportunity that gives me joy and keeps me motivated.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for input.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Ted Peterson                  |  IRE/NICAR
> Webmaster                   |  http://www.ire.org
> (573) 884-7321                |  http://www.nicar.org
> ----------------------------------------------------------------

>
I would be interested.

Don

---------------------------------
We believe the entire Word is inspired by God Himself. But let's face
> it: we
> don't memorise the first nine chapters of 1 Chronicles, do we? Some
> verses are more important to memorise then others.
>
> What I want to do is to make a list of verses that are important to
> memorise. I want this list to be as complete and interdenominational
> as possible. So if anyone has such a list for personal use as a
> computer text file, please mail it to terrydiscovery.nl
>
> Also, if anyone is interested in the resulting list, let me know.
>
> Terry

Hi Terry,

I put together my own list (as part of InVerse) from several sources.
Eventually, it grew to a "outer core" of about 460 passages, and an "inner core"
of about 82 passages (a passage might be from one or several verses). This was a
consolidation from the Evangelism Explosion program, a list I came across of
"101 Verses Every Christian Should Know" for the Palm PDA, the Navigator's
Topical Memory System, and my personal preferences from classes and books over
the years.  I also tried to have some representative passages for about 40
different topics (salvation, parenting, grace, assurance, church, etc.)

Another factor: InVerse has verses from ten different translations, but the
publishers of modern English Bible translations vary greatly in the number of
verses they will allow to be freely utilized. This forced some decisions on
which verses to include and exclude. The Lockman Foundation was very generous
with their NASB, and gave permission for InVerse to use up to 3500 verses. On
the other hand, other publishers have declined to allow more than a default of
200 verses.

If appropriate, I could extract the "inner" and/or "outer" lists of verse
references. An alternative would be to download and install InVerse, and examine
my choices :-)

For His glory and honor,
Lynn Allan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Vogelaar" 

> What I want to do is to make a list of verses that are important to
> memorise. I want this list to be as complete and interdenominational
> as possible. So if anyone has such a list for personal use as a
> computer
text
> file, please mail it to terrydiscovery.nl
>
> Also, if anyone is interested in the resulting list, let me know.

I'm interested in your list, Terry.

Thanks.



--- Terry Vogelaar  wrote:
>We believe the entire Word is inspired by God Himself. But let's face
>it: we don't memorise the first nine chapters of 1 Chronicles, do we?
>Some verses are more important to memorise then others.
>
>What I want to do is to make a list of verses that are important to
>memorise. I want this list to be as complete and interdenominational as
>possible. So if anyone has such a list for personal use as a computer
>text file, please mail it to terrydiscovery.nl
>
>Also, if anyone is interested in the resulting list, let me know.
>
>Terry

_____________________________________________________________
Get Your FREE ChristianEmail.com Account -> http://www.botcw.com

_____________________________________________________________
Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get youyourchoice.com w/No Ads,
6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag

I'm interested in your list, Terry.

Thanks.



--- Terry Vogelaar  wrote:
>We believe the entire Word is inspired by God Himself. But let's face
>it: we don't memorise the first nine chapters of 1 Chronicles, do we?
>Some verses are more important to memorise then others.
>
>What I want to do is to make a list of verses that are important to
>memorise. I want this list to be as complete and interdenominational as
>possible. So if anyone has such a list for personal use as a computer
>text file, please mail it to terrydiscovery.nl
>
>Also, if anyone is interested in the resulting list, let me know.
>
>Terry

_____________________________________________________________
Get Your FREE ChristianEmail.com Account -> http://www.botcw.com

_____________________________________________________________
Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get youyourchoice.com w/No Ads,
6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag

First a reply to Ted - I never thought I'd find a fellow computer geek using
SuperMemo to memorize lots of Scripture!  What fun! I'd certainly like to see
your Perl program and Word template.



Second a reply to Don - I use SuperMemo 2002.  Keep in mind, however, that I use
the program quite a bit for work related activity (it's very helpful as it's a
real challenge for me to remember all the details of the numerous technologies
my job requires me to be proficient in) so I delve into features I'd never use
with just Scripture memory alone.  If you're concerned about cost, you can
certainly reap benefits from older versions that are sold for less.  Here's a
good chart to help walk you through the price vs. benefits quandary:

http://www.supermemo.com/english/which.htm.



And another reply to Don - I use a Radio Shack computer microphone that, if
memory serves, cost me about $20.  I just plug it into my sound card on the back
of my computer and use a recording software program called Sound Forge to record
the sections of Scripture I quote.  Then, after I've finished a passage, I play
it back while looking at the text via SuperMemo to see if I was accurate.
Lastly, I grade myself within Supermemo.  If I do consistently well on a
particular passage I don't see it very frequently.  However, if I'm struggling
with a passage, Supermemo will ask me to review it more frequently.



By the way there are inexpensive and even free alternatives to Sound Forge.
Goldwave is just about the best.  It's shareware and runs about $40.  You can
find it at www.goldwave.com.  I did a search on zdnet and came up with the
following possible alternatives:

http://zdnet.com.com/3120-20-0.html?qt=wave+editor.  I've not gone through the
list so I can't give a review on any of those products.  If all else fails you
can limp by on Microsoft Sound recorder.  It's pretty limited but, assuming your
running an appropriate version of Windows, it's on your computer right now.  For
Windows 2000 go to
start>Programs>Accessories>Entertainment>Sound Recorder.

Sorry to go on and on about menial details but I hope all this helps.

Hi,

There have been a couple of posts to the list showing an interest in Bible
memorization software for the Palm OS.  Currently, I know of the following
software:

1) http://www.laridian.com/palm/infomemorize.asp

This is a product you have to purchase.  I bought it a while ago so that I could
see how it worked.  It is fairly simple, with not too many features, but that
said, it is a nice piece of software and you should check it out.

2) http://www.middlecross.com/

This is a freeware product.

3) I hope to write a freeware program for the Palm OS sometime in the next 8
months.  This will be an add-on to my own scripture memory software for windows
which is available at www.memoryverses.org. My idea is that the Windows program
will download to your Palm device the verses you are to review during a
particular day. The program on the palm will quiz you on these verses.

Stephen Simpson