Dear Cory!

That is such an awesome testimony!  It is so true that when we come to God in a
state of brokenness and total dependence on Him that He can do great things.  I
so much believe in the power of God's Word and know that we need to hide God's
word in our hearts.  I won't say that my ambitions are so lofty in memorizing
such huge portions of scripture but I know that it has to be a daily pursuit
just as Joshua 1: 8 says to meditate day and night on the Word of God.  I know,
too, that when we have God's Word hidden in our hearts and we confess it in our
daily prayers God does incredible things.
There is a continuous feast for us to feed on in God's word and it can make us
prosper in all aspects of our lives - whether we memorize one verse at a time or
large passages - it will all be used effectively for God's purposes.

Proverbs 16:3 tells us to "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans
will succeed."

What else can I say?  The Word of God is our food, our water - I pray that more
and more people will become excited about God's Word.

God bless!

Sharon

----- Original Message -----
From: "cory grimm" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:36 PM
Subject: Writing to introduce myself


> Hello, Everyone!  My name is Cory Grimm, and I was extremely excited
> to find this web-site a couple of weeks ago.  I hope to check in often
> and get to know others who are passionate about memorizing scripture.
> Memorizing the Word has totally changed my walk with the Lord, and I
> highly suggest it to any person who is hungry for the things of God.
>
> For a couple of years I tried my hardest to memorize scripture.  I
> found that it was impossible under my own power and discipline.  I
> kept memorizing the book of James, letting it go, re-memorizing it,
> etc...  So last
summer
> I brought this problem before the Lord in prayer and begged for the
> Holy Spirit to give me the drive to memorize scripture.  I confessed
> that I could not do it alone and asked God to do it through me.  Since
> that
time,
> by the grace of God, I have memorized nearly 30% of the New Testament!
> I still have it all memorized, references and all, and haven't lost a
single
> verse.  I can't even begin to describe the amazing blessings that have
> flowed over into my life as a result of this awesome gift of God!  I
> plan to finish the New Testament in the next two years and then tackle
> the
Old.
> I hope this is an encouragement to all of you out there who keep going
> through the cycle of memorizing and forgetting.  Bring it before the
> Lord in true brokenness, and watch miracles begin to happen!
>
> God bless you all!
>
> In Him,
> cory grimm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Welcome Cory!!

How wonderful to hear about your memorization!

I am finishing memorizing 2 Cor ch 3, and now am wondering the best way to
retain large sections of scripture. Any advice?

in Him
Beth
----- Original Message -----

Hello, Everyone!  My name is Cory Grimm, and I was extremely excited to find
this web-site a couple of weeks ago.  I hope to check in often and get to know
others who are passionate about memorizing scripture.
Memorizing the Word has totally changed my walk with the Lord, and I highly
suggest it to any person who is hungry for the things of God.

For a couple of years I tried my hardest to memorize scripture.  I found that it
was impossible under my own power and discipline.  I kept memorizing the book of
James, letting it go, re-memorizing it, etc...  So last summer I brought this
problem before the Lord in prayer and begged for the Holy Spirit to give me the
drive to memorize scripture.  I confessed that I could not do it alone and asked
God to do it through me.  Since that time, by the grace of God, I have memorized
nearly 30% of the New Testament!  I still have it all memorized, references and
all, and haven't lost a single verse.  I can't even begin to describe the
amazing blessings that have flowed over into my life as a result of this awesome
gift of God!  I plan to finish the New Testament in the next two years and then
tackle the Old.
I hope this is an encouragement to all of you out there who keep going through
the cycle of memorizing and forgetting.  Bring it before the Lord in true
brokenness, and watch miracles begin to happen!

God bless you all!

In Him,
cory grimm

Hello Cory,

I thought I would reply to your introductory e-mail to the biblememory list.
Welcome!

Hope you don't mind, but I thought I would take the opportunity to introduce
myself in turn. With the Holy Spirit's help, I am the author of the free InVerse
Scripture Memorization software program. It was expressly developed for people
who are seriously committed to memorizing many, many Bible verses. This sounds a
whole lot like you :-)

While InVerse is helpful in getting people started, in my experience most
software programs for memorization aren't all that advantageous over a (very
small) shoebox for organizing a handful of verses. The Samaritan's Purse
organization makes available a very nice starter pack from Mrs. Ruth Bell Graham
with about 150 verses that comes in a convenient box. My impression is that it
is free.

However, once a person gets into the realm of dozens and dozens of verses, there
starts to be an issue with keeping track of the verses. At some point, you want
to decrease repetition of mastered verses to "make room" for a new passage.
Also, it is easy to neglect mastered passages, and then be "rusty".

InVerse comes preloaded with 2800 passages (15,300 verses) from 11 different
Bible translations. It provides verses before and/or after the verse(s) being
memorized for context. It relies on the "honor system", as I believe it is very
impractical to use typing for verification (type in all of James?, 10
Commandments?, 23rd Psalm? ... I don't think so :-).

There are four separate categories for "Daily/Most Frequent" recitation,
"Weekly/Less Frequent", "Monthly/Least Frequent", and "Not Started/Inactive". As
you master a passage, you can determine to recite it less frequently, but still
often enough to not get rusty. It is oriented to grown-ups, and leaves out
features such as a talking parrot :-)

I would acknowledge that InVerse wasn't particularly developed for memorizing an
entire book or chapter of the Bible. Instead, it has a set of about 750 "core"
preloaded passages from almost every book in the Bible (50+ from the Psalms, 39
from John, 37 from Romans, etc.) The Add-Passage is available to include your
own passages.

God's word is truly rich and bountiful. At one point, I thought InVerse already
contained most of the "nuggets" of the Bible, but I am becoming more and more
aware of the hubris of that impression. Each month, there is a "forehead, meet
palm" experience as I ask myself how I could have overlooked yet another series
of passages :-)  I have over 100 passages "staged" to be preloaded in a
subsequent release, which I become aware of from various devotions such as
InTouch, etc.

I would describe InVerse as stable, mature freeware. It was originally released
in early 2001, and has evolved through about 20 upgrades since then. Version
3.5f was released on Aug 19, 2003, and is available at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/InVerseSetup.exe
or
http://home.att.net/~bibleinverse/Download/InVerseSetup.exe

Here is the "change-log" of revisions for previous releases:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/ChangeLog.html

More information is available at:
http://inverse.sourceforge.net

Here is the "road-map" of envisioned upgrades for future enhancements of
InVerse:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/RoadMap.html

For some of the above files, access may require joining the yahoo e-community.
You can go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse

and click on the "Join this Group" link in the upper right. It is free to join.
This is a very "low traffic" group ... over the past 12 months there have been
less than 50 messages. It won't fill up your inbasket :-) Most people specify
the "Special Notices Only" option to just hear about updates.

For His glory and honor,
Lynn Allan








----- Original Message -----
From: "cory grimm" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 1:36 PM
Subject: Writing to introduce myself


> Hello, Everyone!  My name is Cory Grimm, and I was extremely excited
> to find this web-site a couple of weeks ago.  I hope to check in often
> and get to know others who are passionate about memorizing scripture.
> Memorizing the Word has totally changed my walk with the Lord, and I
> highly suggest it to any person who is hungry for the things of God.
>
> For a couple of years I tried my hardest to memorize scripture.  I
> found that it was impossible under my own power and discipline.  I
> kept memorizing the book of James, letting it go, re-memorizing it,
> etc...  So last
summer
> I brought this problem before the Lord in prayer and begged for the
> Holy Spirit to give me the drive to memorize scripture.  I confessed
> that I could not do it alone and asked God to do it through me.  Since
> that
time,
> by the grace of God, I have memorized nearly 30% of the New Testament!
> I still have it all memorized, references and all, and haven't lost a
single
> verse.  I can't even begin to describe the amazing blessings that have
> flowed over into my life as a result of this awesome gift of God!  I
> plan to finish the New Testament in the next two years and then tackle
> the
Old.
> I hope this is an encouragement to all of you out there who keep going
> through the cycle of memorizing and forgetting.  Bring it before the
> Lord in true brokenness, and watch miracles begin to happen!
>
> God bless you all!
>
> In Him,
> cory grimm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hello Cory,

I thought I would reply to your introductory e-mail to the biblememory list.
Welcome!

Hope you don't mind, but I thought I would take the opportunity to introduce
myself in turn. With the Holy Spirit's help, I am the author of the free InVerse
Scripture Memorization software program. It was expressly developed for people
who are seriously committed to memorizing many, many Bible verses. This sounds a
whole lot like you :-)

While InVerse is helpful in getting people started, in my experience most
software programs for memorization aren't all that advantageous over a (very
small) shoebox for organizing a handful of verses. The Samaritan's Purse
organization makes available a very nice starter pack from Mrs. Ruth Bell Graham
with about 150 verses that comes in a convenient box. My impression is that it
is free.

However, once a person gets into the realm of dozens and dozens of verses, there
starts to be an issue with keeping track of the verses. At some point, you want
to decrease repetition of mastered verses to "make room" for a new passage.
Also, it is easy to neglect mastered passages, and then be "rusty".

InVerse comes preloaded with 2800 passages (15,300 verses) from 11 different
Bible translations. It provides verses before and/or after the verse(s) being
memorized for context. It relies on the "honor system", as I believe it is very
impractical to use typing for verification (type in all of James?, 10
Commandments?, 23rd Psalm? ... I don't think so :-).

There are four separate categories for "Daily/Most Frequent" recitation,
"Weekly/Less Frequent", "Monthly/Least Frequent", and "Not Started/Inactive". As
you master a passage, you can determine to recite it less frequently, but still
often enough to not get rusty. It is oriented to grown-ups, and leaves out
features such as a talking parrot :-)

I would acknowledge that InVerse wasn't particularly developed for memorizing an
entire book or chapter of the Bible. Instead, it has a set of about 750 "core"
preloaded passages from almost every book in the Bible (50+ from the Psalms, 39
from John, 37 from Romans, etc.) The Add-Passage is available to include your
own passages.

God's word is truly rich and bountiful. At one point, I thought InVerse already
contained most of the "nuggets" of the Bible, but I am becoming more and more
aware of the hubris of that impression. Each month, there is a "forehead, meet
palm" experience as I ask myself how I could have overlooked yet another series
of passages :-)  I have over 100 passages "staged" to be preloaded in a
subsequent release, which I become aware of from various devotions such as
InTouch, etc.

I would describe InVerse as stable, mature freeware. It was originally released
in early 2001, and has evolved through about 20 upgrades since then. Version
3.5f was released on Aug 19, 2003, and is available at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/InVerseSetup.exe
or
http://home.att.net/~bibleinverse/Download/InVerseSetup.exe

Here is the "change-log" of revisions for previous releases:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/ChangeLog.html

More information is available at:
http://inverse.sourceforge.net

Here is the "road-map" of envisioned upgrades for future enhancements of
InVerse:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/RoadMap.html

For some of the above files, access may require joining the yahoo e-community.
You can go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse

and click on the "Join this Group" link in the upper right. It is free to join.
This is a very "low traffic" group ... over the past 12 months there have been
less than 50 messages. It won't fill up your inbasket :-) Most people specify
the "Special Notices Only" option to just hear about updates.

For His glory and honor,
Lynn Allan








----- Original Message -----
From: "cory grimm" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 1:36 PM
Subject: Writing to introduce myself


> Hello, Everyone!  My name is Cory Grimm, and I was extremely excited
> to find this web-site a couple of weeks ago.  I hope to check in often
> and get to know others who are passionate about memorizing scripture.
> Memorizing the Word has totally changed my walk with the Lord, and I
> highly suggest it to any person who is hungry for the things of God.
>
> For a couple of years I tried my hardest to memorize scripture.  I
> found that it was impossible under my own power and discipline.  I
> kept memorizing the book of James, letting it go, re-memorizing it,
> etc...  So last
summer
> I brought this problem before the Lord in prayer and begged for the
> Holy Spirit to give me the drive to memorize scripture.  I confessed
> that I could not do it alone and asked God to do it through me.  Since
> that
time,
> by the grace of God, I have memorized nearly 30% of the New Testament!
> I still have it all memorized, references and all, and haven't lost a
single
> verse.  I can't even begin to describe the amazing blessings that have
> flowed over into my life as a result of this awesome gift of God!  I
> plan to finish the New Testament in the next two years and then tackle
> the
Old.
> I hope this is an encouragement to all of you out there who keep going
> through the cycle of memorizing and forgetting.  Bring it before the
> Lord in true brokenness, and watch miracles begin to happen!
>
> God bless you all!
>
> In Him,
> cory grimm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hello Cory,

I thought I would reply to your introductory e-mail to the biblememory list.
Welcome!

Hope you don't mind, but I thought I would take the opportunity to introduce
myself in turn. With the Holy Spirit's help, I am the author of the free InVerse
Scripture Memorization software program. It was expressly developed for people
who are seriously committed to memorizing many, many Bible verses. This sounds a
whole lot like you :-)

While InVerse is helpful in getting people started, in my experience most
software programs for memorization aren't all that advantageous over a (very
small) shoebox for organizing a handful of verses. The Samaritan's Purse
organization makes available a very nice starter pack from Mrs. Ruth Bell Graham
with about 150 verses that comes in a convenient box. My impression is that it
is free.

However, once a person gets into the realm of dozens and dozens of verses, there
starts to be an issue with keeping track of the verses. At some point, you want
to decrease repetition of mastered verses to "make room" for a new passage.
Also, it is easy to neglect mastered passages, and then be "rusty".

InVerse comes preloaded with 2800 passages (15,300 verses) from 11 different
Bible translations. It provides verses before and/or after the verse(s) being
memorized for context. It relies on the "honor system", as I believe it is very
impractical to use typing for verification (type in all of James?, 10
Commandments?, 23rd Psalm? ... I don't think so :-).

There are four separate categories for "Daily/Most Frequent" recitation,
"Weekly/Less Frequent", "Monthly/Least Frequent", and "Not Started/Inactive". As
you master a passage, you can determine to recite it less frequently, but still
often enough to not get rusty. It is oriented to grown-ups, and leaves out
features such as a talking parrot :-)

I would acknowledge that InVerse wasn't particularly developed for memorizing an
entire book or chapter of the Bible. Instead, it has a set of about 750 "core"
preloaded passages from almost every book in the Bible (50+ from the Psalms, 39
from John, 37 from Romans, etc.) The Add-Passage is available to include your
own passages.

God's word is truly rich and bountiful. At one point, I thought InVerse already
contained most of the "nuggets" of the Bible, but I am becoming more and more
aware of the hubris of that impression. Each month, there is a "forehead, meet
palm" experience as I ask myself how I could have overlooked yet another series
of passages :-)  I have over 100 passages "staged" to be preloaded in a
subsequent release, which I become aware of from various devotions such as
InTouch, etc.

I would describe InVerse as stable, mature freeware. It was originally released
in early 2001, and has evolved through about 20 upgrades since then. Version
3.5f was released on Aug 19, 2003, and is available at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/InVerseSetup.exe
or
http://home.att.net/~bibleinverse/Download/InVerseSetup.exe

Here is the "change-log" of revisions for previous releases:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/ChangeLog.html

More information is available at:
http://inverse.sourceforge.net

Here is the "road-map" of envisioned upgrades for future enhancements of
InVerse:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/RoadMap.html

For some of the above files, access may require joining the yahoo e-community.
You can go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse

and click on the "Join this Group" link in the upper right. It is free to join.
This is a very "low traffic" group ... over the past 12 months there have been
less than 50 messages. It won't fill up your inbasket :-) Most people specify
the "Special Notices Only" option to just hear about updates.

For His glory and honor,
Lynn Allan








----- Original Message -----
From: "cory grimm" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 1:36 PM
Subject: Writing to introduce myself


> Hello, Everyone!  My name is Cory Grimm, and I was extremely excited
> to find this web-site a couple of weeks ago.  I hope to check in often
> and get to know others who are passionate about memorizing scripture.
> Memorizing the Word has totally changed my walk with the Lord, and I
> highly suggest it to any person who is hungry for the things of God.
>
> For a couple of years I tried my hardest to memorize scripture.  I
> found that it was impossible under my own power and discipline.  I
> kept memorizing the book of James, letting it go, re-memorizing it,
> etc...  So last
summer
> I brought this problem before the Lord in prayer and begged for the
> Holy Spirit to give me the drive to memorize scripture.  I confessed
> that I could not do it alone and asked God to do it through me.  Since
> that
time,
> by the grace of God, I have memorized nearly 30% of the New Testament!
> I still have it all memorized, references and all, and haven't lost a
single
> verse.  I can't even begin to describe the amazing blessings that have
> flowed over into my life as a result of this awesome gift of God!  I
> plan to finish the New Testament in the next two years and then tackle
> the
Old.
> I hope this is an encouragement to all of you out there who keep going
> through the cycle of memorizing and forgetting.  Bring it before the
> Lord in true brokenness, and watch miracles begin to happen!
>
> God bless you all!
>
> In Him,
> cory grimm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hello Cory,

I thought I would reply to your introductory e-mail to the biblememory list.
Welcome!

Hope you don't mind, but I thought I would take the opportunity to introduce
myself in turn. With the Holy Spirit's help, I am the author of the free InVerse
Scripture Memorization software program. It was expressly developed for people
who are seriously committed to memorizing many, many Bible verses. This sounds a
whole lot like you :-)

While InVerse is helpful in getting people started, in my experience most
software programs for memorization aren't all that advantageous over a (very
small) shoebox for organizing a handful of verses. The Samaritan's Purse
organization makes available a very nice starter pack from Mrs. Ruth Bell Graham
with about 150 verses that comes in a convenient box. My impression is that it
is free.

However, once a person gets into the realm of dozens and dozens of verses, there
starts to be an issue with keeping track of the verses. At some point, you want
to decrease repetition of mastered verses to "make room" for a new passage.
Also, it is easy to neglect mastered passages, and then be "rusty".

InVerse comes preloaded with 2800 passages (15,300 verses) from 11 different
Bible translations. It provides verses before and/or after the verse(s) being
memorized for context. It relies on the "honor system", as I believe it is very
impractical to use typing for verification (type in all of James?, 10
Commandments?, 23rd Psalm? ... I don't think so :-).

There are four separate categories for "Daily/Most Frequent" recitation,
"Weekly/Less Frequent", "Monthly/Least Frequent", and "Not Started/Inactive". As
you master a passage, you can determine to recite it less frequently, but still
often enough to not get rusty. It is oriented to grown-ups, and leaves out
features such as a talking parrot :-)

I would acknowledge that InVerse wasn't particularly developed for memorizing an
entire book or chapter of the Bible. Instead, it has a set of about 750 "core"
preloaded passages from almost every book in the Bible (50+ from the Psalms, 39
from John, 37 from Romans, etc.) The Add-Passage is available to include your
own passages.

God's word is truly rich and bountiful. At one point, I thought InVerse already
contained most of the "nuggets" of the Bible, but I am becoming more and more
aware of the hubris of that impression. Each month, there is a "forehead, meet
palm" experience as I ask myself how I could have overlooked yet another series
of passages :-)  I have over 100 passages "staged" to be preloaded in a
subsequent release, which I become aware of from various devotions such as
InTouch, etc.

I would describe InVerse as stable, mature freeware. It was originally released
in early 2001, and has evolved through about 20 upgrades since then. Version
3.5f was released on Aug 19, 2003, and is available at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/InVerseSetup.exe
or
http://home.att.net/~bibleinverse/Download/InVerseSetup.exe

Here is the "change-log" of revisions for previous releases:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/ChangeLog.html

More information is available at:
http://inverse.sourceforge.net

Here is the "road-map" of envisioned upgrades for future enhancements of
InVerse:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/RoadMap.html

For some of the above files, access may require joining the yahoo e-community.
You can go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse

and click on the "Join this Group" link in the upper right. It is free to join.
This is a very "low traffic" group ... over the past 12 months there have been
less than 50 messages. It won't fill up your inbasket :-) Most people specify
the "Special Notices Only" option to just hear about updates.

For His glory and honor,
Lynn Allan








----- Original Message -----
From: "cory grimm" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 1:36 PM
Subject: Writing to introduce myself


> Hello, Everyone!  My name is Cory Grimm, and I was extremely excited
> to find this web-site a couple of weeks ago.  I hope to check in often
> and get to know others who are passionate about memorizing scripture.
> Memorizing the Word has totally changed my walk with the Lord, and I
> highly suggest it to any person who is hungry for the things of God.
>
> For a couple of years I tried my hardest to memorize scripture.  I
> found that it was impossible under my own power and discipline.  I
> kept memorizing the book of James, letting it go, re-memorizing it,
> etc...  So last
summer
> I brought this problem before the Lord in prayer and begged for the
> Holy Spirit to give me the drive to memorize scripture.  I confessed
> that I could not do it alone and asked God to do it through me.  Since
> that
time,
> by the grace of God, I have memorized nearly 30% of the New Testament!
> I still have it all memorized, references and all, and haven't lost a
single
> verse.  I can't even begin to describe the amazing blessings that have
> flowed over into my life as a result of this awesome gift of God!  I
> plan to finish the New Testament in the next two years and then tackle
> the
Old.
> I hope this is an encouragement to all of you out there who keep going
> through the cycle of memorizing and forgetting.  Bring it before the
> Lord in true brokenness, and watch miracles begin to happen!
>
> God bless you all!
>
> In Him,
> cory grimm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Welcome Cory, glad you came here... and you are a real encouragement to me. I'm
a grandma to 8, and have only been able to memorize 2 verses in my life.

Lynn, I did have to chuckle at your post, because I'm a slow learner, and
getting a kick out of talking with my parrot- and starting to be able to put put
words together in my head, for more than ten minutes, by using the kids games,
etc. Our family has been in crisis mode for about 2 years now, and I'm the
middle of the sandwich. So I've been seeking out verses that answer the pain in
my heart.

Believe it or not, I never thought to pray that God would help me memorize His
word! DUH. So I'm glad the super-memorizer mentioned it. I have no more
organization than... crabgrass? so I'm looking forward to graduating to the
InVerse system after I make some progress here, and get the old brain cells
working again.

So glad to hear of other people who just won't give up.
-Melody

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Lynn Allan wrote:

> Hello Cory,
>
> I thought I would reply to your introductory e-mail to the biblememory
> list.
> Welcome!
>
> While InVerse is helpful in getting people started, in my experience
> most software programs for memorization aren't all that advantageous
> over a (very
> small) shoebox for organizing a handful of verses. The Samaritan's
> Purse organization makes available a very nice starter pack from Mrs.
> Ruth Bell Graham with about 150 verses that comes in a convenient box.
> My
impression
> is that it is free.
>
> There are four separate categories for "Daily/Most Frequent"
> recitation, "Weekly/Less Frequent", "Monthly/Least Frequent", and "Not
> Started/Inactive". As you master a passage, you can determine to
> recite
it
> less frequently, but still often enough to not get rusty. It is
> oriented
to
> grown-ups, and **leaves out features such as a talking parrot :-)**
>

Can you or somebody else recommend software useful for memorizing whole chapters
in personal translation choice?
Brenda
I would acknowledge that InVerse wasn't particularly developed for memorizing an
entire book or chapter of the Bible. Instead, it has a set of about 750 "core"
preloaded passages from almost every book in the Bible

"And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness,
quietness and assurance forever.  And my people shall dwell in a peaceable
habitation, and in sure dwellings, and in quiet resting places."  Isaiah
32:17-18

Highpraysesaol.com heeft op vrijdag, 3 okt 2003 om 23:51 het volgende
geschreven:

> Can you or somebody else recommend software useful for memorizing
> whole chapters in personal translation choice?
> I would acknowledge that InVerse wasn't particularly developed for
> memorizing an entire book or chapter of the Bible. Instead, it has a
> set of about 750 "core" preloaded passages from almost every book in
> the Bible

At the moment I am working on software to make, edit and view mind-maps of the
Bible. So it doesn't remotely compare in the approach of InVerse, hoping these
programs can supplement each-other. These mind-maps should help understanding
the internal structure of the books of the Bible. Like maps often are available
to view the whole country via state and city to street-level, this software can
'zoom in' from book-level to verse-level with many in-between steps. It will
contain some public domain translations and it will also be easy to convert any
other translation in text format to a module so it can be used in this program.
So it can basically use any translation.

It will take quite some work before it is finished yet, so I really cannot
estimate when it will become available. I also most likely will become an elder
of our church tomorrow and I am exited to see how the Lord will do His work
through my hands in this ministry. So you may understand you have to be patient
for a while. But it will be free and I will inform this list as soon as I have a
beta version available.

Terry

Personally I find SuperMemo invaluable in memorizing large portions of
Scripture.  I've been using it for a bit over a year now to memorize and review
Ecclesiastes, Proverbs 1-9, The Sermon on the Mount, Acts (My current project.
I'm up to chapter 5), and various verses.  As a result I can quote all of the
above with about 95% accuracy at any given moment and with 100% accuracy if
given a few days notice.  My time is used quite efficiently as I typically
review only those passages I struggle to remember and rarely go over those I've
mastered.

If you use SuperMemo you will have to structure your learning material yourself
as it doesn't do it for you.  It took me about a year to figure out an optimum
system for me and I would be happy to share that with others who would like to
use SuperMemo.

SuperMemo can be found at http://www.supermemo.com.

In Christ,

David Baldwin


--- Highpraysesaol.com wrote:
> Can you or somebody else recommend software useful for memorizing
> whole chapters in personal translation choice?
> Brenda
> I would acknowledge that InVerse wasn't particularly developed for
> memorizing an entire book or chapter of the Bible.
> Instead, it has a set of
> about 750 "core" preloaded passages from almost every book in the
> Bible
>
> "And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of
> righteousness, quietness and assurance forever.  And my people shall
> dwell in a peaceable habitation, and in sure dwellings, and in quiet
> resting places."  Isaiah
> 32:17-18
>
>
>
>
>
>

DEAR DAVID,

Yes Please share how best to use SuperMeme for Bible Memeory work.
Thank you
Andy Major

Original Message -----
From: "David Baldwin" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 3:07 AM
Subject: Re: Writing to introduce myself (to biblememory list)


> Personally I find SuperMemo invaluable in memorizing large portions of
> Scripture.  I've been using it for a bit over a year now to memorize
> and review Ecclesiastes, Proverbs 1-9, The Sermon on the Mount, Acts
> (My current project.  I'm up to chapter 5), and various verses.  As a
> result I can quote all of the above with about 95% accuracy at any
> given moment and with 100% accuracy if given a few days notice.  My
> time is used quite efficiently as I typically review only those
> passages I struggle to remember and rarely go over those I've
> mastered.
>
> If you use SuperMemo you will have to structure your learning material
> yourself as it doesn't do it for you.  It took me about a year to
> figure out an optimum system for me and I would be happy to share that
> with others who would like to use SuperMemo.
>
> SuperMemo can be found at http://www.supermemo.com.
>
> In Christ,
>
> David Baldwin
>
>
> --- Highpraysesaol.com wrote:
> > Can you or somebody else recommend software useful for memorizing
> > whole chapters in personal translation choice?
> > Brenda
> > I would acknowledge that InVerse wasn't particularly developed for
> > memorizing an entire book or chapter of the Bible.
> > Instead, it has a set of
> > about 750 "core" preloaded passages from almost every book in the
> > Bible
> >
> > "And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of
> > righteousness, quietness and assurance forever.  And my people shall
> > dwell in a peaceable habitation, and in sure dwellings, and in quiet
> > resting places."  Isaiah
> > 32:17-18
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

Yes, I would like to know more about your method.
I am a SuperMemo user (mostly for vocabulary learning), and I do not have a clue
as to how to proceed with such a task of learning chapters of the Bible.

Thank you!

Jean Monfette


>From: David Baldwin 
>Reply-To: biblememmemoryverses.org
>To: biblememmemoryverses.org
>Subject: Re: Writing to introduce myself (to biblememory list)
>Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 21:07:21 -0500
>
>Personally I find SuperMemo invaluable in memorizing large portions of
>Scripture.  I've been using it for a bit over a year now to memorize
>and review Ecclesiastes, Proverbs 1-9, The Sermon on the Mount, Acts
>(My current project.  I'm up to chapter 5), and various verses.  As a
>result I can quote all of the above with about 95% accuracy at any
>given moment and with 100% accuracy if given a few days notice.  My
>time is used quite efficiently as I typically review only those
>passages I struggle to remember and rarely go over those I've mastered.
>
>If you use SuperMemo you will have to structure your learning material
>yourself as it doesn't do it for you.  It took me about a year to
>figure out an optimum system for me and I would be happy to share that
>with others who would like to use SuperMemo.
>
>SuperMemo can be found at http://www.supermemo.com.
>
>In Christ,
>
>David Baldwin
>
>
>--- Highpraysesaol.com wrote:
> > Can you or somebody else recommend software useful for memorizing
> > whole chapters in personal translation choice?
> > Brenda
> > I would acknowledge that InVerse wasn't particularly developed for
> > memorizing an entire book or chapter of the Bible.
> > Instead, it has a set of
> > about 750 "core" preloaded passages from almost every book in the
> > Bible
> >
> > "And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of
> > righteousness, quietness and assurance forever.  And my people shall
> > dwell in a peaceable habitation, and in sure dwellings, and in quiet
> > resting places."  Isaiah
> > 32:17-18
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

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I've put together about 20 minutes worth of computer screen video footage on how
I use Supermemo in Scripture memory.  You can view this at
http://66.34.129.48/SM/.  It'll require a bit of patience to view if you are on
dial up.

In Christ,

David Baldwin

It's official!
One month after the Lord told me to memorize 2 Cor 3, it's done. :) I put out
the effort and He did the work - engraving it on my heart and mind. I'm really
thinking of continuing to memorize ch 4 also.
For those of you that memorize multiple chapters, how do you keep them straight
in your mind? How often do you review to retain?

thanks
Beth

Great, Beth!

It is good to memorize larger passages because it gives us a context.
That context is the paragraph, but also the chapter, the book and ultimately the
entire bible. So ch 4 is a good way to continue.

I think I can say something about repetition. It is important, but it also can
make it boring. So a good frequency is vital. You should start with a higher
frequency at the beginning, with larger intervals as time passes.

I usually use memory cards. Every time I am able to say the text on the back
from memory, I store it in the photo album for the next day I should memorize
it. I store them in 12 photo albums with numbered pages; an album for each
month; a page each day.

The first repetition is the next day,
then I wait 4 days,
then 12 days,
then one month
then 2 months and a week
then 4 months and 16 days
then 8 months
and then one year.

I used another scheme before, but it didn't quite work for me, so I made this
better one with a computer formula.

On top of each card there is a line with:
1d   4d   12d   1m   2m1w   4m16d   8m   1yr
After the first time of memorizing that text, I draw a circle around "1d" and
write the date of tomorrow underneath it. At home I store the card in the album,
and the next day I take the cards for that day to review them. I use this system
for 11 months now and I am very content with it. I memorized (and reviewed) 718
cards with on each card one or two verses.

Although my approach probably differs from yours, maybe some elements of my
repetition scheme might help you and/or others.

Bless you all,
Terry



Beth Montgomery heeft op donderdag, 9 okt 2003 om 05:15 het volgende
geschreven:

> It's official!
> One month after the Lord told me to memorize 2 Cor 3, it's done. :) I
> put out the effort and He did the work - engraving it on my heart and
> mind. I'm really thinking of continuing to memorize ch 4 also.
> For those of you that memorize multiple chapters, how do you keep them
> straight in your mind? How often do you review to retain?

Great, Beth!

It is good to memorize larger passages because it gives us a context.
That context is the paragraph, but also the chapter, the book and ultimately the
entire bible. So ch 4 is a good way to continue.

I think I can say something about repetition. It is important, but it also can
make it boring. So a good frequency is vital. You should start with a higher
frequency at the beginning, with larger intervals as time passes.

I usually use memory cards. Every time I am able to say the text on the back
from memory, I store it in the photo album for the next day I should memorize
it. I store them in 12 photo albums with numbered pages; an album for each
month; a page each day.

The first repetition is the next day,
then I wait 4 days,
then 12 days,
then one month
then 2 months and a week
then 4 months and 16 days
then 8 months
and then one year.

I used another scheme before, but it didn't quite work for me, so I made this
better one with a computer formula.

On top of each card there is a line with:
1d   4d   12d   1m   2m1w   4m16d   8m   1yr
After the first time of memorizing that text, I draw a circle around "1d" and
write the date of tomorrow underneath it. At home I store the card in the album,
and the next day I take the cards for that day to review them. I use this system
for 11 months now and I am very content with it. I memorized (and reviewed) 718
cards with on each card one or two verses.

Although my approach probably differs from yours, maybe some elements of my
repetition scheme might help you and/or others.

Bless you all,
Terry



Beth Montgomery heeft op donderdag, 9 okt 2003 om 05:15 het volgende
geschreven:

> It's official!
> One month after the Lord told me to memorize 2 Cor 3, it's done. :) I
> put out the effort and He did the work - engraving it on my heart and
> mind. I'm reaX-Mozilla-Status: 0009uing to memorize ch 4 also.
> For those of you that memorize multiple chapters, how do you keep them
> straight in your mind? How often do you review to retain?

Thank you so much David for you hard work and time in putting together this
excellent presentation. It's very much appreciated!

God Bless,

Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: David Baldwin [mailto:dbaldwindatastagexchange.com]
Sent: 09 October 2003 04:15
To: biblememmemoryverses.org
Subject: Supermemo and Scripture Memory

I've put together about 20 minutes worth of computer screen video footage on how
I use Supermemo in Scripture memory.  You can view this at
http://66.34.129.48/SM/.  It'll require a bit of patience to view if you are on
dial up.

In Christ,

David Baldwin

Congratulations, Beth!!!  My first "multiple chapter" project was the Sermon on
the Mount (Matthew 5-7) this past summer.  I found that the logic and flow of
Jesus' teaching made it reasonably easy to keep these three chapters straight.
By comparison, when I first started memorizing, I learned the first few Psalms
-- even today, these are tougher to keep straight in my mind than the Sermon on
the Mount.  I still review it pretty much daily (driving in Atlanta traffic,
there's lots of time for review :-) :-)

I've just begun working on the book of James; I'm in the middle of the second
chapter, and again am finding that the flow of thought helps me keep the
chapters straight.  Hope those thoughts help ....

David H.

-----Original Message-----
From: Beth Montgomery [mailto:bethmonpeoplepc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 11:15 PM
To: biblememmemoryverses.org
Subject: yahooo!! My 1st Chapter!


It's official!
One month after the Lord told me to memorize 2 Cor 3, it's done. :) I put out
the effort and He did the work - engraving it on my heart and mind. I'm really
thinking of continuing to memorize ch 4 also.
For those of you that memorize multiple chapters, how do you keep them straight
in your mind? How often do you review to retain?

thanks
Beth

The biggest help would be to remember what each section is about, not
necessarily the chapter.  For instance, I do not know individual verses in 1st
Timothy, but I can say that the 1st chapter has to do with people who are
ignorant of the law, and yet try to teach it, so I will not get it mixed up with
chapter three that talks about overseers and deacons.  Does that make sense?  I
guess, just remembering what each section is about just does wonders for me.
Hope that helps sister.


He who bears Christ
Christopher

Dear David,

Thank you so much for your awesome presentation.

God Bless,

Andy Major.


Thursday, October 09, 2003 4:15 AM
Subject: Supermemo and Scripture Memory


> I've put together about 20 minutes worth of computer screen video
> footage on how I use Supermemo in Scripture memory.  You can view this
> at http://66.34.129.48/SM/.  It'll require a bit of patience to view
> if you are on dial up.
>
> In Christ,
>
> David Baldwin
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi Beth,

Praise God!  thats great that you finished 2 Cor 3 :)

Good luck on chapter 4, and maybe more?

I am currently memorizing Hebrews and 1 and 2 Peter, so I know how chapters can
get mixed up in your mind.

The best way to keep it straight, that I found is to quote through the chapter
or chapters each day (before you start memorizing new verses).  I am devoting a
year to memorizing Hebrews and 1 and 2 Peter. And since it will only take 5-6
months to actually memorize it.  I'll REALLY know hebrews and 1 and 2 Peter by
the time the year is up :)  So I recommend quoting through 1 Cor 3 each day that
you plan on studying chapter 4.  That will help you retain it, and keep them
from being mixed up in your mind.

I hope that helps, and I'd love to hear how chapter 4 is comming along!

God bless,
Mark
--- Beth Montgomery  wrote:
> It's official!
> One month after the Lord told me to memorize 2 Cor 3, it's done. :) I
> put out the effort and He did the work - engraving it on my heart and
> mind. I'm really thinking of continuing to memorize ch 4 also.
> For those of you that memorize multiple chapters, how do you keep them
> straight in your mind? How often do you review to retain?
>
> thanks
> Beth
>
>
>
>
>


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Beth,

Congratulations!  That is great that you finished the chapter.  I think the best
way to review is to do it a couple of times a day for the first week or so, then
once a day for a week or two, and then eventually you can just do it one day of
the week.  Then you can wake up on every Tuesday, or whichever day you choose,
and know that you need to review that chapter.

One thing I do when I review it to go through the chapter once and get it fresh.
 Then, I go back through and try to allow the Holy Spirit to bring out the
things that I haven't noticed before.  In other words, I meditate on the passage
the second time.  This has been very beneficial to me.

Thanks again for the encouraging update!  Keep up the good work!

In Him,

Cory Grimm

Beth,

That's great! Your email has inspired me to quit being lazy and just reading the
posts! It's time to start memorizing some scriptures. Where to start...?

Noel

--- Beth Montgomery  wrote:
> It's official!
> One month after the Lord told me to memorize 2 Cor 3, it's done. :) I
> put out the effort and He did the work - engraving it on my heart and
> mind. I'm really thinking of continuing to memorize ch 4 also.
> For those of you that memorize multiple chapters, how do you keep them
> straight in your mind? How often do you review to retain?
>
> thanks
> Beth
>
>
>
>
>

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My name is Deanna. I have been on this list for a few weeks now but have not
introduced myself. I am a senior in Bible college and even though we are
required to learn many many many many many Bible verses for our classes I enjoy
memorizing God's Word besides what I have to learn in school. This desire was
sparked in me several years ago when in our church we had kind of a competition
to see who memorized the most and the one that memorized the most won a special
study Bible. I didn't win, but since then I have kept on memorizing Scripture.

I have memorized the book of Philippians (in Spanish, I go to a Spanish speaking
church) and average 5-6 verses per week if I do not have too much homework. I
have started recording the passage I want to learn on tape, repeating it many
times so that I can listen to it in the car and repeat it with the tape. This
helps me alot because I commute about 80 minutes a day to get to and from school
and do not have the gift of reading and driving  ;-) I am not an expert but
maybe this could help someone else who also is in the car alot. Lord bless you.

Your servant in Christ,
Deanna G. Thomas.
Hebrews 11:6.

Thanks Terry,

Using a photo album, and your review process with a card-line containing "1d
4d   12d   1m   2m 1w   4m 16d   8m   1yr"  is an awesome idea!

What kind of photo album works best for you and what size index cards? Do you
hand write the verses out when you put them in your album or do you print it
from the computer?

I plan on implementing your method, it makes a lot of sense to me..... now I'm
just trying to figure out the logistics.....

Congratulations on memorizing 718 cards! That's wonderful! How much time do you
spend a day reviewing and working on new memorization?

thanks much for your reply and advice,
Beth

Hello Deanna,

Welcome to memoryverses group ... and may God bless your studies at Bible
college ...

I thought I'd check with you on something, since you mentioned you did
significant memorization in Spanish. I've been wanting to develop a version of
the InVerse Scripture memorization freeware program in Spanish. I only took dos
anos in escuela secondario, and that was mucho anos ago. Perhaps you'd be
willing to help with this?

My thinking is to get help with the "labels" of the program itself (menu items,
text for buttons, etc.). I can do copy/paste from online Spanish Bibles for the
actual verses (which would probably be the more time consuming part of the
project ... and I would do that. At some point, the Help system could be
rewritten in Spanish, but that could wait for another
day.)

Let me know if you'd have the time and interest to participate in this.
Also, you might find InVerse helpful for the "many many many many many Bible
verses" you are faced with. It's not particularly oriented for memorizing
chapters, which is often what is discussed on this forum. Instead, it has
hundreds and hundreds of preloaded passages from most books of the Bible.

For His glory and honor,
Lynn Allan aka paracletebibleinverse.org

----- Original Message -----
From: 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 8:24 AM
Subject: record your passage on tape...


> we are required to learn many many many many many Bible verses for our
> classes I enjoy memorizing God's Word besides what I have to learn in
> school.

> I have memorized the book of Philippians (in Spanish, I go to a
> Spanish speaking church) and average 5-6 verses per week if I do not
> have too

Lynn,

How do I get the free InVerse Scripture Memorization software program? I've read
all the e-mails but haven't picked up on how to actually get the software. I am
a church secretary and have become extremely interested in scripture
memorization. I hope you can help me.

Patti Lynn Smith

-----Original Message-----
From: Lynn Allan [mailto:l.allanatt.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:59 PM
To: biblememmemoryverses.org
Subject: Re: Writing to introduce myself (to biblememory list)


Hello Cory,

I thought I would reply to your introductory e-mail to the biblememory list.
Welcome!

Hope you don't mind, but I thought I would take the opportunity to introduce
myself in turn. With the Holy Spirit's help, I am the author of the free InVerse
Scripture Memorization software program. It was expressly developed for people
who are seriously committed to memorizing many, many Bible verses. This sounds a
whole lot like you :-)

While InVerse is helpful in getting people started, in my experience most
software programs for memorization aren't all that advantageous over a (very
small) shoebox for organizing a handful of verses. The Samaritan's Purse
organization makes available a very nice starter pack from Mrs. Ruth Bell Graham
with about 150 verses that comes in a convenient box. My impression is that it
is free.

However, once a person gets into the realm of dozens and dozens of verses, there
starts to be an issue with keeping track of the verses. At some point, you want
to decrease repetition of mastered verses to "make room" for a new passage.
Also, it is easy to neglect mastered passages, and then be "rusty".

InVerse comes preloaded with 2800 passages (15,300 verses) from 11 different
Bible translations. It provides verses before and/or after the verse(s) being
memorized for context. It relies on the "honor system", as I believe it is very
impractical to use typing for verification (type in all of James?, 10
Commandments?, 23rd Psalm? ... I don't think so :-).

There are four separate categories for "Daily/Most Frequent" recitation,
"Weekly/Less Frequent", "Monthly/Least Frequent", and "Not Started/Inactive". As
you master a passage, you can determine to recite it less frequently, but still
often enough to not get rusty. It is oriented to grown-ups, and leaves out
features such as a talking parrot :-)

I would acknowledge that InVerse wasn't particularly developed for memorizing an
entire book or chapter of the Bible. Instead, it has a set of about 750 "core"
preloaded passages from almost every book in the Bible (50+ from the Psalms, 39
from John, 37 from Romans, etc.) The Add-Passage is available to include your
own passages.

God's word is truly rich and bountiful. At one point, I thought InVerse already
contained most of the "nuggets" of the Bible, but I am becoming more and more
aware of the hubris of that impression. Each month, there is a "forehead, meet
palm" experience as I ask myself how I could have overlooked yet another series
of passages :-)  I have over 100 passages "staged" to be preloaded in a
subsequent release, which I become aware of from various devotions such as
InTouch, etc.

I would describe InVerse as stable, mature freeware. It was originally released
in early 2001, and has evolved through about 20 upgrades since then. Version
3.5f was released on Aug 19, 2003, and is available at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/InVerseSetup.exe
or
http://home.att.net/~bibleinverse/Download/InVerseSetup.exe

Here is the "change-log" of revisions for previous releases:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/ChangeLog.html

More information is available at:
http://inverse.sourceforge.net

Here is the "road-map" of envisioned upgrades for future enhancements of
InVerse:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/RoadMap.html

For some of the above files, access may require joining the yahoo e-community.
You can go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse

and click on the "Join this Group" link in the upper right. It is free to join.
This is a very "low traffic" group ... over the past 12 months there have been
less than 50 messages. It won't fill up your inbasket :-) Most people specify
the "Special Notices Only" option to just hear about updates.

For His glory and honor,
Lynn Allan








----- Original Message -----
From: "cory grimm" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 1:36 PM
Subject: Writing to introduce myself


> Hello, Everyone!  My name is Cory Grimm, and I was extremely excited
> to find this web-site a couple of weeks ago.  I hope to check in often
> and get to know others who are passionate about memorizing scripture.
> Memorizing the Word has totally changed my walk with the Lord, and I
> highly suggest it to any person who is hungry for the things of God.
>
> For a couple of years I tried my hardest to memorize scripture.  I
> found that it was impossible under my own power and discipline.  I
> kept memorizing the book of James, letting it go, re-memorizing it,
> etc...  So last
summer
> I brought this problem before the Lord in prayer and begged for the
> Holy Spirit to give me the drive to memorize scripture.  I confessed
> that I could not do it alone and asked God to do it through me.  Since
> that
time,
> by the grace of God, I have memorized nearly 30% of the New Testament!
> I still have it all memorized, references and all, and haven't lost a
single
> verse.  I can't even begin to describe the amazing blessings that have
> flowed over into my life as a result of this awesome gift of God!  I
> plan to finish the New Testament in the next two years and then tackle
> the
Old.
> I hope this is an encouragement to all of you out there who keep going
> through the cycle of memorizing and forgetting.  Bring it before the
> Lord in true brokenness, and watch miracles begin to happen!
>
> God bless you all!
>
> In Him,
> cory grimm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Wow. Thanks so much for your replies! It is wonderful to have so many people on
this list that faithfully memorize the Word of God. It is so encouraging and
motivating to me!

Thanks to your experience and advice, I have started a notebook, and have
printed out the verses I have memorized (and will memorize next) on business
card stock and put in clear sheets, to refresh my memory with one page a day,
with a particular schedule,- more review at first and less as the weeks go on.

I will keep in mind chapter themes. I loved the idea on reviewing -of reading it
fresh first, then from memory , mediatively, letting the Holy Spirit teach me.
Awesome insight.

Listening to the tape is wonderful too - really helped me memorize the 1st
chapter. You all have encouraged me to keep on going. With God's help, I guess I
can do it too! :)

In Him
Beth

Hello,

Several members of the list have spent time developing various products and
services to assist people in the task of memorizing scripture.  Some of it is
free, while others come at a small cost.  There are many new members of this
list and not all of them are aware of the wide assortment of products/services
which have been made available.  I was wondering if everyone who has developed
some product or service for Scripture memorizers could post a paragraph or two
describing their offering.  In this  way, people could see if there is anything
that could be of help to them.

Thanks,

Stephen Simpson
(Biblemem list moderator)

Hello Stephen,

Thanks for the opportunity to describe InVerse for your subscribers. First, an
aside: as you are aware, I occasionally respond to an e-mail submitted to the
memoryverses.org mailing list, and mention InVerse. I hope I haven't been
inappropriately intrusive about this. Also, about once a year or so, I have sent
an unsolicited e-mail invitation to people who have posted to your list.

Any guidance on whether this is ok with you, or whether I should do this less?
Or cut it out? I want to be a "good citizen" of your list.

Anyway, info about InVerse follows. Let me know if this is too long. You can
shorten as you seek fit, or I can submit a smaller version:

***********************
***********************

Memorizing Scripture verses is a laudable ambition, but a beginner can find it
overwhelming. The free software, InVerse, simplifies this, containing 15,300+
verses preloaded in 2,800 of the best known Scripture passages from
11 Bible translations. As your proficiency on a passage improves from Just
Started to Good and then Mastered, you can categorize it for Less Frequent
recitation. Veterans at memorization benefit by being able to organize scores of
passages between Learning and Learned.

Inverse lets you choose whether to see just the reference (e.g. John 3:16
[Topic:Grace] NIV), a hint, the passage being memorized, or the context can be
shown with before/after verses.  Parallel passages from other Bible translations
can be viewed directly.

Inverse has a very simple, intuitive user interface. An extensive tutorial (100+
steps) is oriented to less experienced computer users. Detailed Help is
provided, including context sensitve help. There are interfaces to the Pocket-PC
and Palm pda devices that maintain sync with the passages you are memorizing. It
is a relatively small, self-contained download (less than 1
meg) that only takes 3 or 4 minutes to download, even with a slow modem.

And it really is free; there is no "Pro" version for sale. Neither are there
time limits, feature limits, nags, adware, or spyware. Just the offering of a
Christian who has been abundantly blessed and wants to "give something back."

While InVerse is helpful in getting people started, in my experience most
software programs for memorization aren't all that advantageous over a (very
small) shoebox for organizing a handful of verses. The Samaritan's Purse
organization makes available a very nice starter pack from Mrs. Ruth Bell Graham
with about 150 verses that comes in a convenient box. My impression is that it
is free.

However, once a person gets into the realm of dozens and dozens of verses, there
starts to be an issue with keeping track of the verses. At some point, you want
to decrease repetition of mastered verses to "make room" in your brain for a new
passage. Also, it is easy to neglect mastered passages, and then be "rusty".

There are four separate categories for "Daily/Most Frequent" recitation,
"Weekly/Less Frequent", "Monthly/Least Frequent", and "Not Started/Inactive". As
you master a passage, you can determine to recite it less frequently, but still
often enough to not get rusty. It is oriented to grown-ups, and leaves out
features such as a talking parrot :-)

I would acknowledge that InVerse wasn't particularly developed for memorizing an
entire book or chapter of the Bible. Instead, it has a set of about 750 "core"
preloaded passages from almost every book in the Bible (50+ from the Psalms, 39
from John, 37 from Romans, etc.) The Add-Passage is available to include your
own passages.

I would describe InVerse as stable, mature freeware. It was originally released
in early 2002, and has evolved through about 20 upgrades since then. Version
3.5h was released on Oct 3, 2003, and is available at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/InVerseSetup.exe
or
http://home.att.net/~bibleinverse/Download/InVerseSetup.exe

Here is the "change-log" of revisions for previous releases:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/ChangeLog.html

Here is the "road-map" of envisioned upgrades for future enhancements of
InVerse:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse/files/RoadMap.html

For some of the above files, access may require joining the yahoo e-community.
You can go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InVerse

and click on the "Join this Group" link in the upper right. It is free to join.
This is a very "low traffic" group ... over the past 12 months there have been
less than 50 messages. It won't fill up your inbasket :-) Most people specify
the "Special Notices Only" option to just hear about updates.

For His glory and honor,
Lynn Allan aka paracletebibleinverse.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Simpson" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 4:30 PM
Subject: Review of available Scripture Memory Resources


> Hello,
>
> Several members of the list have spent time developing various products
and
> services to assist people in the task of memorizing scripture.  Some of it
> is free, while others come at a small cost.  There are many new members of
> this list and not all of them are aware of the wide assortment of
> products/services which have been made available.  I was wondering if
> everyone who has developed some product or service for Scripture
memorizers
> could post a paragraph or two describing their offering.  In this  way,
> people could see if there is anything that could be of help to them.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stephen Simpson
> (Biblemem list moderator)
>
>
>
>
>

I dont' know if this is an automated subscription process or not, but just in
case there is someone reading these emails I'll tell you a little about myself.
My name is Mike, I'm 42 years old, and I live on Orange County, California (just
35 miles from L.A.).  I just got started memorizing Bible passages a year ago,
after a longtime friend recited the First chapter of the Book of James.  She
said she had memorized the entire book as a teenager, yet she could still
remember it perfectly 25 years later.  This gave me the incentive to begin to
hide God's Word in my heart.  Perhaps by coincidence, the pastor of our church
was beginning a two month series on the Book of James, and he asked us to read
each chapter through several times in advance of the weekend sermon (which would
be related to that chapter).  I decided that I would do more than just read it
-- I would try to memorize the entire book.  I hadn't done anything like this
before, but within two months I had done it.  I noticed that verses would
continually come to mind during the day, and in many situations I could see
practical applications for them.  This year my project has been to memorize the
Book of Romans.  I started on January 2nd, and right now (October 25th) I've
completed the first 13 chapters (I also did Hebrews chapter 1 and some short
psalms along the way); Lord willing I'll finish the last 3 chapters before the
end of the year.  Next I'd like to try the Book of John, which I know will be
both rewarding and challenging.

I'm trying to get a few of my friends to join with me, but only one of them
seems interested, and I don't see him too often.  I have another friend who
knows lots of individual verses (perhaps 700 or 800), but he isn't interested in
doing entire books.  I'm glad you have this site where we can share our
thoughts, and that we can be accountable to one-another in this noble task.

Mike Sanders

Beth Montgomery heeft op zaterdag, 11 okt 2003 om 22:00 het volgende
geschreven:

> Thanks Terry,
>
> Using a photo album, and your review process with a card-line
> containing "1d  4d   12d   1m   2m1w   4m16d   8m   1yr"  is an
> awesome idea!
>
> What kind of photo album works best for you and what size index cards?
> Do you hand write the verses out when you put them in your album or do
> you print it from the computer?

I use small albums intended for 16 standard photo's. I divided each 'bag' with a
photo-sized card with 2 numbers on each side, representing the days.
I wrote a utility to make these cards (sorry, it is very user-unfriendly, so I
can't share it). They are a bit smaller than credit-cards; there can fit 18
cards on one thick A4-sheet (US-letter will do fine too, of course). Hand
writing them is also a good idea; then you already start memorizing while making
the cards. In that case you probably need somewhat larger cards.

> I plan on implementing your method, it makes a lot of sense to me.....
> now I'm just trying to figure out the logistics.....
>
> Congratulations on memorizing 718 cards! That's wonderful! How much
> time do you spend a day reviewing and working on new memorization?

Since I am a heavy computer user, I need to actively prevent Repetitive Strain
Injury. So I need to take breaks quite often; I have a break reminder
application on my computer. During these forced breaks I grab my cards. Also,
every other 'empty' moment I start memorizing; train, bus, waiting, etc. So that
is one of the best parts of my memorization
experience: it doesn't cost me much 'extra' time!

Try not to make yourself a slave of your own memory wish. It is a blessing;
don't allow it to experience it as a curse. Use it flexible.
Some days give me more time to memorize than others. And some days I have a lot
of cards to review, others don't have any. So I only start with new cards when I
am out of cards to review for that day. It rapidly became very irregular with 20
new cards a day, and weeks without any new card, but why should I bother about
that?

One additional remark: the cards are in a logical order. I don't memorize a
verse from proverbs, then from the gospels and Genesis; it is helpful if the
passage on one card continues on the next one. So I numbered the cards and I
order them according to those numbers in the morning. Of course the texts that I
review from last month don't have anything to do with the ones of 4 days ago or
the new cards of that day. But still it is very helpful if the several (new)
cards of that day form a context together.

Most important tip: always take your cards with you; you never know when you
will have a spare moment.

Terry