Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:26 PM From: Sandy I want to learn how to memorize the Bible! I am on WEBTV so I do not always have access to various study groups/classes. I would appreciate any and all suggestions you can give me to help me with this mission of mine:) Please do not say get a computer-lol-I do well just operating this thing:0 Love in HIS NAME Gma Sandy =============================================================================== Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:26 PM Subject: Re: Introduction From: jean Keep up the good work I did not start till I was in my 60 may God bless you in this may He become close to you Jean =============================================================================== Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:23 AM Subject: Introduction From: dmoore12 Hi! My name is Cindy, and I live in Texas. I'm 50 and have been = working hard at Scripture memory for about a year and a half. I began = with individual verses (in Moody Bible Institute's Scripture memory = correspondence course), but, thanks to The Scripture Memory Connection = and to Mrs. McClure (Sword of the Spirit Ministries), the verses are = stretching into chapters. I'm bringing my younger son along with me; he = just finished his first chapter! Knowing that all of you are "out = there" is a tremendous encouragement to keep going. God bless!!! =============================================================================== Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:23 AM Subject: MamaMyrna From: In a message dated 8/31/01 2:36:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, MamaMyrnaaol.com writes: > MamaMyrnaaol.com > Myrna, If you keep working on you memorization, your memory will spring back again. I teach a class of older people to memorize scripture found at the http://www.threethirtyclub.com. Over and over again, I have seen their minds "seem to improve" after they work on memorizing verses. Don't give up. Get you a coach if possible. You will get a lot of joy out of memorizing scripture. Rev James L. Kephart =============================================================================== Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:26 PM Subject: RE: Romans to Revelation From: Shawn Nelson You can count me in... I'm currently in Hebrews, chapter 7. I need you guys to hold me accountable. I want to be able to do a chapter every 3 days. So I better be done by the 23rd or so! Or else! Actually, it's the "or else" part I have problems with. I have no accountability. Will you or somebody else hole me accountable. Yell at me... threaten... you know.. to send me to my room...?? Shawn-------- > -----Original Message----- > From: Samuel Blight [mailto:samblightwatchdog.net.nz] > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 9:23 PM > To: biblememmemoryverses.org > Subject: Romans to Revelation > > > Hi folks, > > I am considering attempting to learn Romans through to Revelation and > am = looking for some memory partners. > This is around 144 chapters (less than Psalms in no. of chapters) > A chapter a month would make it a 12 year target. > A chapter a week would make it a 3 year target. > I have been out of serious memorising for a while.... but > have been = > doing some chapters in Isaiah recently. > To help me get back into the swing of things, I will > probably start with = > the smallest books and work towards the largest books. > I know James, and have previously learnt a number of the > other smaller = > books by chapter, but not well enough to know them now > (except for = > James). > I would also like to aim for about a chapter a week to > three weeks = > depending on the chapter length. > > In HIS service, > > > > Samuel Blight > > > PS As I write this I am about to be out of contact for a > week - but I = > will be keenly interested in responses when I get back :) > > > > > > > =============================================================================== Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:26 PM Subject: RE: Romans to Revelation From: Uebel, Ron Samuel, I'm in. Ron Uebel 513-244-8606 -----Original Message----- From: Samuel Blight [mailto:samblightwatchdog.net.nz] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:23 AM To: biblememmemoryverses.org Subject: Romans to Revelation Hi folks, I am considering attempting to learn Romans through to Revelation and am = looking for some memory partners. This is around 144 chapters (less than Psalms in no. of chapters) A chapter a month would make it a 12 year target. A chapter a week would make it a 3 year target. I have been out of serious memorising for a while.... but have been = doing some chapters in Isaiah recently. To help me get back into the swing of things, I will probably start with = the smallest books and work towards the largest books. I know James, and have previously learnt a number of the other smaller = books by chapter, but not well enough to know them now (except for = James). I would also like to aim for about a chapter a week to three weeks = depending on the chapter length. In HIS service, Samuel Blight PS As I write this I am about to be out of contact for a week - but I = will be keenly interested in responses when I get back :) =============================================================================== Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:26 PM Subject: Re: Romans to Revelation From: James Kephart Samuel Bligt, you are indeed an inspiration to all scripture memorizers. Bless you! Rev James L. Kephart http://www.threethirtyclub.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Samuel Blight" To: Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 9:23 PM Subject: Romans to Revelation > Hi folks, > > I am considering attempting to learn Romans through to Revelation and > am = > looking for some memory partners. > This is around 144 chapters (less than Psalms in no. of chapters) A > chapter a month would make it a 12 year target. A chapter a week would > make it a 3 year target. I have been out of serious memorising for a > while.... but have been = doing some chapters in Isaiah recently. > To help me get back into the swing of things, I will probably start with = > the smallest books and work towards the largest books. > I know James, and have previously learnt a number of the other smaller > = books by chapter, but not well enough to know them now (except for = > James). I would also like to aim for about a chapter a week to three > weeks = depending on the chapter length. > > In HIS service, > > > > Samuel Blight > > > PS As I write this I am about to be out of contact for a week - but I > = will be keenly interested in responses when I get back :) > > > > > > > =============================================================================== Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:23 AM Subject: Romans to Revelation From: Samuel Blight Hi folks, I am considering attempting to learn Romans through to Revelation and am = looking for some memory partners. This is around 144 chapters (less than Psalms in no. of chapters) A chapter a month would make it a 12 year target. A chapter a week would make it a 3 year target. I have been out of serious memorising for a while.... but have been = doing some chapters in Isaiah recently. To help me get back into the swing of things, I will probably start with = the smallest books and work towards the largest books. I know James, and have previously learnt a number of the other smaller = books by chapter, but not well enough to know them now (except for = James). I would also like to aim for about a chapter a week to three weeks = depending on the chapter length. In HIS service, Samuel Blight PS As I write this I am about to be out of contact for a week - but I = will be keenly interested in responses when I get back :) =============================================================================== Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:26 PM Subject: Re: subscribe biblemem From: Hello, I have Hank Hanegraffs books on memorization, and what I have there is very close to his materials. Also there is a book called, 'The Ultimate Memory Book." I would advise you to get it! There was a Bible based book I believe by one of the authors of the Ultimate Memory Book, and the author claimed to have memorized much of the New Testament. In my opinion, memory techniques do work. But it takes much practice. A lot of people, like myself, learn the techniques but then do not use them. I can do little memory tricks but in order to really see results it takes work. Mark Thompson =============================================================================== Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:23 AM Subject: re:subscribe biblemem From: beverly mayhew Hi Mama, glad to hear from you. Yes it is a task, and the enemy loves to try to make it hard for us. But the Lord will prevail. I have always had trouble memorizing and yet I know the Lord knows my heart and how much I want to. So we just keep plugging along and everyonce in a while I surprise myself. I know God just looks down and smiles at me cause I get so excited. I love the Lord soooo, and I am glad you are with us. write when you can, hope to hear from you soon. bev >From: MamaMyrnaaol.com >Reply-To: biblememmemoryverses.org >To: biblememmemoryverses.org >Subject: re:subscribe biblemem >Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:35:47 -0500 > >I am interesting in 'trying' to memorize Books of Bible. John >if possible. I am 63 and my brain is not the spunge it used to be. >spelling is off too.!!! sigh. > >in our church youth and young adults have aready memorized the entire >Book of Luke and God is using this around the community as they dramatize >the Book in skits. >truth. If you do not use .. you WILL lose it.!!!! proof in the pudding >is >in the eating. > >blessings. humbly, His child >Myrna from Montana > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp =============================================================================== Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:22 AM Subject: RE: subscribe biblemem From: Shawn Nelson I'd recommend getting the Book of John on tape. It's a lot easier for me to memorize using tapes. See: http://mvcf.com/church/ministries/suntereo/ for more info. Shawn------- > -----Original Message----- > From: MamaMyrnaaol.com [mailto:MamaMyrnaaol.com] > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:36 PM > To: biblememmemoryverses.org > Subject: re:subscribe biblemem > > > I am interesting in 'trying' to memorize Books of Bible. John > if possible. I am 63 and my brain is not the spunge it used to be. > spelling is off too.!!! sigh. > > in our church youth and young adults have aready > memorized the entire > Book of Luke and God is using this around the community > as they dramatize > the Book in skits. > truth. If you do not use .. you WILL lose it.!!!! > proof in the pudding > is > in the eating. > > blessings. humbly, His child > Myrna from Montana > > > > > > > =============================================================================== Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:26 PM Subject: Re: subscribe biblemem REPLY: <(}>< From: AHAHA I GOT ONE ... THAT WILL WORK. AND NEED LITTLE INDEX CARDS TO CARRY AROUND OR PUT INTHE LIBRARY (AHUM BATHROOM). Thanks for the input. Our group is now going to tackle I and II Cor. Amazes me they do 4 verses a day. Makes me tired thinking about it. I am soo proud of them. LATER! Myrna =============================================================================== Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 6:11 PM Subject: Progress over time From: S Simpson Greetings, I have been re-reading the list archives for the Bible Memory Discussion list. On Feb 23, 1998 I wrote the following to the Bible Memory Discussion list "I think that in today's world, in this society, we are to busy and do not take the time it requires to accomplish the task of memorizing scripture. Just look at me. My wife and I both work, we have two children (aged 3 and 5). We attend Church and I am a leader of one of the small groups in my Church (it is a Cell Church). After all this (plus shopping, cooking, cleaning, skating lessons, music lessons, overtime, etc), I never get to spending the time required to properly review memorize and meditate." That was about 3 and a half years ago. Today I would write the following: "I think that in today's world, in this society, we are to busy and do not take the time it requires to accomplish the task of memorizing scripture. Just look at me. My wife and I both work, we have two children (aged 6 and 8). We attend Church and participate in one of the small groups in my Church (it is a Cell Church). After all this (plus shopping, cooking, cleaning, time with the children, hockey practice and games, homework, music lessons, overtime, etc, etc), I never get to spending the time required to properly review memorize and meditate." Life is good, but I certainly have not accomplished as much as I wanted to during the last few years. My question to myself is what will I write in 3 and a half years from now? I fear that it will be much the same. What will I write in 40 years, if I should be around so long? What can I do to snap myself into a new pattern? Blessings to all, Stephen Simpson =============================================================================== Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:32 AM Subject: A new pattern From: James Kephart What can I do to snap myself into a new pattern? Blessings to all, Stephen Simpson Dear Stephen, A good way to keep going, as to your scripture memorization, is to get someone to work with you for about 15 minutes a week to see how you are doing on your memory work. I call them coaches, Waylon Moore calls them mentors. You could probably get someone from your cell group who wants to memorize scripture. I also carry my memory work with me in my car, and work on it in my waiting times. Then too, you can set goals of having the section done by a certain time. Another thing I do, is to recite my memory work as I lay down to sleep. Many times I doze off before the section is finished, but it may do me some good to go to sleep quoting God's word. At our church, our people say their memory work before the Church when qualified. This brings out some guests usually, and they are presented a signed certificate. But you are right. If we don't have a plan, we won't find time in this busy world. As a pastor I have to have scripture at hand to comfort and instruct folks in trouble. I believe any Christian worker needs it too. Even if we are only going to pray for someone, we need to know which of God's promises we can call on, on that persons behalf. I have a deep belief that if I learn a section of scripture, that God will use me to help someone in that area (maybe even myself, or my own family). I have rambled on long enough. You are a faithful servant of our Lord, and I appreciate you and your work. Rev James L. Kephart Three Thirty Club http://www.threethirtyclub.com =============================================================================== Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:32 AM Subject: new membership From: ronke tayotiwo My name is Aderonke Tayo-Tiwo .In my secular life I work at the United Bank for Africa and I am also married to a pastor in the Redeemed Christian Church of God ,a fast growing Pentecostal Church here in Nigeria.I am in charge of the women fellowship in my church. I want to able to positively impact their lives by the life I live and also by teaching them about the Lord. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com =============================================================================== Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:32 AM Subject: Re: Progress over time From: Drake Mariani Man do I appreciate your transparency Stephen!! Look out...soapbox This is exactly why I encourage most people to do topical memorization. I've done my share of both. The time it takes to keep up with passages (a mind thing, not really meditating) can be quite burdensome. In 35 years of being in the ministry, majoring in Scripture memory as a strong basis for discipleship (Navigators 2:7, Topical Memorization System, Master Life by the Baptist organization, and more), I have concluded this: People quit. Some in a few weeks. Some in a few years. But most, ...beat down by guilt of not doing it like they want (God understands! and loves none the less), ...having taken on more than is reasonable considering their current situation (what is reasonable is different for everyone...grace abounds!) ...overcome by what life throws their way People quit. And why? Not because they are unspiritual. But, honestly, I feel most quit because they... ...stopped having an accountability partner (the one who is NOT memorizing is firmer! They will ask. But if is one memorizing, if they haven't memorized, they may not ask.) ...lost desire - this is related to sin in their life which they don't want to deal with or memorizing what isn't meeting a need in my life (I am bored reviewing this section), or the amount of time spent didn't line up with any change in the life, or ... Conclusion? I don't discourage passage memorization. BUT, I do encourage topic memorization, and with a bold emphasis on meditation. (Time spent chewing over the Word, bit by bit, but a regular, separate time from memorization. Application pointing to worship, confession, and ministry is best accomplished if it is written and spoken to another and then held up to accountability.) Why? To reach the troops. Green berets (the elete military a very small minority!) ALWAYS volunteer. They believe they can conquer everything. And, they DO. But, my mission is to the troops. The regular Joe (and Mrs Joe) who just wants to see change in their life and know the imbedded Word will do it by the power of the Holy Spirit. At one verse a week, with a simple 5 minute daily review system that remains 5 minutes for life, in 10 years, you can have at least one key meaningful verse to YOU in every OT book, chapter of Proverbs and NT, plus tons of Psalms. This is the equivalent to 30 passages of 25 verses, but... A) You're still spending 5 minutes a day 5 days a week (we need rest!) B) Your Scripture coverage is balanced over the whole Bible C) You have over 600 "arrows" to fight the war, and you know exactly where they are. We want a pilot that QUICKLY knows exactly where it is, not nosing around for the answer in the manual in an emergency, "Saying, I think it says, somewhere." How? In MEMLOK www.memlok.com/bt.html you memorize the verse you want (from 48 topics of about 12 verses), so you are motivated. You WANT that Scripture to be true, used, seen in your life. Since you selected it, since the time involved REMAINS doable, and since you have a quiet time on the passage surrounding it one day that week... ...You USE IT. No usey, no keepee. :) Thanks for listening!! OK, off the soapbox. PS The upgrade in November (free to anyone who buys now) will allow adding any verse or PASSAGE you want, thus taking advantage of that "program"'s review system (it prints business cards and full coloring pages). And, I am testing the price by lowering the cookie shelf 1/2 way down. Will that reach twice the number of "troops"? Drake & Gina Mariani www.memlok.com mailto:memlokmemlok.com At 9/5/01 03:11 PM, you wrote: >I >never get to spending the time required to properly review memorize and >meditate." =============================================================================== Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:32 AM Subject: Re: Progress over time From: Janie Glover Greeting Brother Stephen, Truly we all have this to overcome, and while there are many, many ways to go about it I feel, personally, that it must come down to your devotion to Jesus. Many of us have our concepts about how devoted we are to Him and how much we love Him (and believe me, I am preaching to myself here as well) but is He really LORD of our lives? Are we truly hidden in Him? Is the reality of His life what is seen in ours? Until we get that part straight, we may have real struggle with priorities. I know I have. At the same time, seriously getting into the Word will transform us if our motives are pure. God will surely move in a pure heart and life given totally to Him. I have also had to ask myself, "am I doing this for HIS glory- or mine?" God knows that I would love to be able to recite bible passages- but am I doing it out of pride or out of devotion to the Lord of my life, knowing that it will transform me and that that is God's only goal in my life. I just finished reading Humility by Andrew Murray this morning and there is a wonderful paragraph I want to share. "Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord and He will exalt you. And of what does the exaltation consist? The highest glory of a man is in being only a vessel, to receive and enjoy and show forth the glory of God. It can only do this as it is willing to be nothing in itself so that God may be all." "When God can have His rightful place in us, He will lift us up. Make His glory your care in humbling yourself. He will make your glory His care in perfecting your humility and in breathing into you, as your abiding life, the very Spirit of His Son." Beautiful huh? It really humbled me as to my motives. Of course I'm not saying that you have this particular problem as I have no way of knowing, but maybe someone else does in this group. Aside from that, the easiest way for me to get familiar with scriptures is to write them on 3'x5' cards and tape them up where I spend the most time. Bathroom mirror, kitchen sink area, lauundry room. Of course I'm a housewife so whatever works for you. And then carrying them with me in my purse so when I find myself waiting on something I can take them out and review them. The easiest time for me is after everyone leaves in the morning, but when I was working I would say the best time would be early morning, getting up 30 minutes before everyone else. Yup, it's WAY hard, but.... when else will you do it? Maybe before bed would be good? In bed before you turn out the lights? Have the stuff sitting right there on a nightstand, pen, cards, bible, everything. And above all- don't set absurd goals for yourself, like memorizing books when you haven't even memorized a dozen verses! LOL! I used to do it, I know! Start slow and be thrilled when you learn a verse of God's precious Word. When you have verses down, then move on. Me, I'm still on verses. Be encouraged. I will be praying for you. AND, above all, don't let church activities take the place of your personal time with Jesus Christ. They will rob you if you ignore coming into the Holy of Holies to commune with Jesus one on one. In Jesus name, Janie ----- Original Message ----- From: "S Simpson" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: Progress over time > Greetings, > > I have been re-reading the list archives for the Bible Memory > Discussion list. > > On Feb 23, 1998 I wrote the following to the Bible Memory Discussion > list > > "I think that in today's world, in this society, we are to busy and do > not take the time it requires to accomplish the task of memorizing > scripture. Just look at me. My wife and I both work, we have two > children (aged 3 and 5). We attend Church and I am a leader of one of > the small groups in my Church (it is a Cell Church). After all this > (plus shopping, cooking, cleaning, skating lessons, music lessons, > overtime, etc), I never get to spending the time required to properly > review memorize and meditate." > > > That was about 3 and a half years ago. Today I would write the > following: > > > "I think that in today's world, in this society, we are to busy and do > not take the time it requires to accomplish the task of memorizing > scripture. Just look at me. My wife and I both work, we have two > children (aged 6 and 8). We attend Church and participate in one of > the small groups in my Church (it is a Cell Church). After all this > (plus shopping, cooking, cleaning, time with the children, hockey > practice and games, homework, music lessons, overtime, etc, etc), I > never get to spending the time required to properly review memorize > and meditate." > > Life is good, but I certainly have not accomplished as much as I > wanted to during the last few years. My question to myself is what > will I write in 3 and a half years from now? I fear that it will be > much the same. What will I write in 40 years, if I should be around > so long? > > What can I do to snap myself into a new pattern? > > Blessings to all, > > Stephen Simpson > > > > > > =============================================================================== Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:32 AM Subject: Re: Progress over time From: Sunshine Stephen: I recommend posting scriptures all over your house. I buy scripture stickers and have them on my refrigerator, the doors, the bathroom mirrors, bedroom, car, back door, front door, all over, so everywhere I go, the Word is in front of me and I read them so often they are encouragements when I am out. Also, you can buy scripture calendars and read with your family at a meal and say a prayer. I raised my sons doing this and it paid off because now they know the Word of God too. I still have my calendars I read every morning alone. It only takes a minute and enriches my day everyday! I look forward to getting up and seeing what the Word for the Day is! It is always Good and God is right on time! Hope this will encourage you! Just find little ways to make the time in your busy schedule and include your family. They will start looking forward to it if you get excited about it. God bless you and I pray in three years you will be a NEW MAN!!! Love in Jesus, Tracy Sunshine Come see Vision of Heaven in Art and my ministry at http://www.visionofheaven.com JESUS IS ENOUGH! ----- Original Message ----- From: "S Simpson" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 3:11 PM Subject: Progress over time > Greetings, > > I have been re-reading the list archives for the Bible Memory > Discussion list. > > On Feb 23, 1998 I wrote the following to the Bible Memory Discussion > list > > "I think that in today's world, in this society, we are to busy and do > not take the time it requires to accomplish the task of memorizing > scripture. Just look at me. My wife and I both work, we have two > children (aged 3 and 5). We attend Church and I am a leader of one of > the small groups in my Church (it is a Cell Church). After all this > (plus shopping, cooking, cleaning, skating lessons, music lessons, > overtime, etc), I never get to spending the time required to properly > review memorize and meditate." > > > That was about 3 and a half years ago. Today I would write the > following: > > > "I think that in today's world, in this society, we are to busy and do > not take the time it requires to accomplish the task of memorizing > scripture. Just look at me. My wife and I both work, we have two > children (aged 6 and 8). We attend Church and participate in one of > the small groups in my Church (it is a Cell Church). After all this > (plus shopping, cooking, cleaning, time with the children, hockey > practice and games, homework, music lessons, overtime, etc, etc), I > never get to spending the time required to properly review memorize > and meditate." > > Life is good, but I certainly have not accomplished as much as I > wanted to during the last few years. My question to myself is what > will I write in 3 and a half years from now? I fear that it will be > much the same. What will I write in 40 years, if I should be around > so long? > > What can I do to snap myself into a new pattern? > > Blessings to all, > > Stephen Simpson > > > > > > =============================================================================== Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:53 AM Subject: Re: Romans to Revelation From: biblet Samuel, I am seeing a lot of interest lately on the list in memorising chapters and even books of the Bible. You have a huge goal of memorizing 144 chapters, but I believe that it is attainable. People can do a lot more than others think possible. I may be able to help you and the others who are interested in memorising large chunks of the Bible. I have not been able to do this myself (although I have tried), but I have spent two and a half years of my life developing Bible Memorisation software that could assist those who have this goal. The software is called Bible Memory 2000 and it is available at http://www.biblememory2000.com. As far as I know, it is the only Bible Memorisation software where whole Bible Translations are part of the software. The full version currently comes with the KJV, ASV and NIV text. If you wanted to memorize Romans to Revelation - it's in there! Go to the web site and try out the free demo! I am committed to supporting the serious memoriser. I challenge you to try the demo and then reply back to me with your comments and feedback. I want to know if it helps with your memorisation goals. Todd Beach Owner - BibleTek Software Tuscaloosa, AL, USA =============================================================================== Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:32 AM Subject: Re: subscribe biblemem REPLY: <(}>< From: Claudette Brown Hi Myrna I want to join your group. I have been studying James - I need a little more motivation though. I guess I will encouraging to know that someone else is studying the same chapters. I will start tomorrow. Claudette ---------- > From: MamaMyrnaaol.com > To: biblememmemoryverses.org > Subject: Re: subscribe biblemem REPLY: <(}>< > Date: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:26 PM > > AHAHA I GOT ONE ... THAT WILL WORK. AND NEED LITTLE INDEX CARDS TO > CARRY AROUND OR PUT INTHE LIBRARY (AHUM BATHROOM). > > Thanks for the input. Our group is now going to tackle I and II Cor. > Amazes me they do 4 verses a day. Makes me tired thinking about it. > > I am soo proud of them. LATER! Myrna > > > > =============================================================================== Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:32 AM Subject: RE: Progress over time From: Shawn Nelson The only time I find is either in the car, in the shower or after my wife goes to bed. That's it. That's why I need to use a tape recorder (micro cassette). Shawn------ > -----Original Message----- > From: S Simpson [mailto:ssimpsonistar.ca] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 3:11 PM > To: biblememmemoryverses.org > Subject: Progress over time > > > Greetings, > > I have been re-reading the list archives for the Bible > Memory Discussion > list. > > On Feb 23, 1998 I wrote the following to the Bible Memory Discussion > list > > "I think that in today's world, in this society, we are > to busy and do > not take the time it requires to accomplish the task of memorizing > scripture. Just look at me. My wife and I both work, we have two > children (aged 3 and 5). We attend Church and I am a > leader of one of > the small groups in my Church (it is a Cell Church). > After all this > (plus shopping, cooking, cleaning, skating lessons, > music lessons, > overtime, etc), I never get to spending the time required > to properly > review memorize and meditate." > > > That was about 3 and a half years ago. Today I would write the > following: > > > "I think that in today's world, in this society, we are > to busy and do > not take the time it requires to accomplish the task of > memorizing > scripture. Just look at me. My wife and I both work, we have two > children (aged 6 and 8). We attend Church and > participate in one of > the small groups in my Church (it is a Cell Church). > After all this > (plus shopping, cooking, cleaning, time with the children, hockey > practice and games, homework, music lessons, overtime, > etc, etc), I > never get to spending the time required to properly > review memorize and > meditate." > > Life is good, but I certainly have not accomplished as > much as I wanted > to during the last few years. My question to myself is > what will I > write in 3 and a half years from now? I fear that it > will be much the > same. What will I write in 40 years, if I should be > around so long? > > What can I do to snap myself into a new pattern? > > Blessings to all, > > Stephen Simpson > > > > > > =============================================================================== Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 8:34 PM Subject: Re: 1 and 2 Corinthians From: Mark Connor Hi, I also want to memorize 1 and 2 Corinthians. And could use some more accountability, and encouragement. I started on chapter 1 this week and am planning on finishing it on saturday. My goal is a chapter a week, so I know that not everyone can make that type of commitment, but it would still be nice to have some accountability. So if a group is going slower, I wouldn't mind that at all. I just think it would be cool to maybe share our favotire scriptures, or talk about verses that may seem confusing. Or just ask each other if we met our memorizing goal this week. Please let me know what you think! thank you, Mark the, quote, coach. Verse of the week: "I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought." 1 Corinthians 1:10 --- Claudette Brown wrote: > Hi Myrna > > I want to join your group. I have been studying > James - I need a little > more motivation though. I guess I will encouraging > to know that someone > else is studying the same chapters. I will start > tomorrow. > > > Claudette > > ---------- > > From: MamaMyrnaaol.com > > To: biblememmemoryverses.org > > Subject: Re: subscribe biblemem REPLY: <(}>< > > Date: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:26 PM > > > > AHAHA I GOT ONE ... THAT WILL WORK. AND NEED > LITTLE INDEX CARDS TO > > CARRY > > AROUND OR PUT INTHE LIBRARY (AHUM BATHROOM). > > > > Thanks for the input. Our group is now going to > tackle I and II Cor. > > Amazes me they do 4 verses a day. Makes me > tired thinking about > it. > > > > I am soo proud of them. LATER! Myrna > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com =============================================================================== Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 8:34 PM Subject: Aderonke Tayo-Tiwo From: dmoore12 Your church is very fortunate to have a pastor's wife who is concerned about the women in your church. Do you think there might be some women in your church who would be interested in forming a Scripture choir? I once heard a choir of young women who had memorized several chapters of the Psalms. They were all dressed in white dresses. They recited the chapters from memory, in unison. A lady directed the choir in their recitation. They spoke clearly, with great expression. It was a very powerful part of the worship service. Praise God for your work in Nigeria! Cindy in Texas (my husband is also a pastor) =============================================================================== Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 8:34 PM Subject: Meditation, Fasting, Prayer for Our Nation From: James Kephart How to Pray When Disaster Strikes or You Have a Terrifying Job to Do. We as pastors talk a good story, but most of us don't pray enough, or pray properly. We pray on the fly. We have so many jobs appointments and things that must be done, that we postpone or rush through praying. The disaster and events of these days require us to do a better job of praying. The best way of doing a better job of praying is to FAST during our time of serious praying. Because of the upheaval in our world, I have already begun my PRAYER-FAST (for our national situation) and will encourage the members of my congregation to have prayer-fasts next week. This is the way I do PRAYER-FASTS: 1) I make my PRAYER-FASTS last from my last meal of the day until noon, the day after next. In other words, I get about a 36 hour prayer fast. 2) I pick out a pertinent section of scripture that I am going to study and pray from. I use scripture that speaks to the problem I am having. In other words, I use scripture as my launching pad to pray. Today, because of the dire national situation, I am using the scriptures about persecution found in the 16th meditation on the Three Thirty Club site at http://www.threethirtyclub.com. Last month, I used the 15th meditation from the same web location on prayer as I felt that my prayer life itself needed prayer and fasting. 3) During this time, I consider it a sacred vow of obedience to pray and study the selected scripture, but since I have pastoral, familial, and regular duties to do, I can't pray the whole 36 hours. So I pray and meditate on the scripture when I can make time, but especially when I am tempted to eat something. Denying myself reminds me of my prayer and meditation duties. I do drink lots of water, and eat little slivers of cantaloupe now and then, chased with lots more water. 4) I try to practice my humility during this time. I generally tell no one, except my wife. I use it as a time of repentance and a chance to listen to God and I take serious requests to Him in my prayers. This is a very serious time in our nation's journey, and I believe it warrants our deepest and most sincere prayers. If any of you fellow pastors would like to join our church in this type of PRAYER-FAST this next week, I would be interested in knowing what scripture you would use for your launch pad. I would also, like to hear of your experiences with fasting and praying. Blessings faithful servants of God! Rev. James L. Kephart Pastor of Town and Country Baptist Church Founder of the Three Thirty Club http://www.threethirtyclub.com =============================================================================== Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 8:34 PM Subject: Re: Romans to Revelation From: Brian Janko Hi, Samuel. You can count me in on this as well. What's the next step? Brian Janko brianjankonet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Samuel Blight" To: Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 9:23 PM Subject: Romans to Revelation > Hi folks, > > I am considering attempting to learn Romans through to Revelation and > am = > looking for some memory partners. > This is around 144 chapters (less than Psalms in no. of chapters) A > chapter a month would make it a 12 year target. A chapter a week would > make it a 3 year target. I have been out of serious memorising for a > while.... but have been = doing some chapters in Isaiah recently. > To help me get back into the swing of things, I will probably start with = > the smallest books and work towards the largest books. > I know James, and have previously learnt a number of the other smaller > = books by chapter, but not well enough to know them now (except for = > James). I would also like to aim for about a chapter a week to three > weeks = depending on the chapter length. > > In HIS service, > > > > Samuel Blight > > > PS As I write this I am about to be out of contact for a week - but I > = will be keenly interested in responses when I get back :) > > > > > > > > =============================================================================== Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 8:34 PM Subject: Re: subscribe biblemem From: Yes Hank it does take work! I have to remind myself that we all worked hard to learn to crawl, walk, run, read, write, etc. so why wouldn't we as God's children work hard at memorizing our heavenly Father's word? Anything worth having is worth fighting, for working for, & being patient for! So let's hang in there, we will be blessed & our children & children's children will carry it even further & be more blessed & more spiritually informed & empowered & so on & so on. Each generation will be more godly & spiritually stronger as the wicked's generations will be more wicked!! Let's continue to uplift each other!! Love & prayers to all, Dee =============================================================================== Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 8:34 PM Subject: Re: subscribe biblemem REPLY: <(}>< From: what a nice thing to say. join my group. Beloved. I am not in a 'group" I am chicken. they are young!!!! I want to do John. James is good. too. I am still in the 'praying about it" stage. But sensing the leading of Holy Spirit as it has Never Ever been 'my' desire to do this. So. God bless you. It is a dicipline daily. But someday we may not Bibles may have to burn them or? We need to be ready for whatever He sees the picture. blessings to you. You can contact me any time. I do care about the family of God and the Kingdom. myrna from Montana. We are cold tonite 49 degress at 11 pm. Our flowers are so beautiful. a frost will kill them. ugh. We live in Rocky Mts about mile high. so ur summers are short. but it has been hot this summer and the rains we got yesterday and last nite helped put out the fires in Glacier Park. had 6 files in the State. Tinder try before last nite. God is good. ta ta toodles. Myrna =============================================================================== Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 11:38 PM Subject: Intro and question From: Melissa L Eefsting I'm Melissa and have been married to my husband for 9 years. We have two kids-- our son is four and our daughter is one. I stay home with them, and we are homeschooling. So, I keep busy. I have a desire to memorize more scripture. I was involved in Awana as a kid, and I taught it a couple years ago and memorized the verses with my girls. But our new church does not have Awana, and I need to get back in the memorizing habit. What "large" passage should I start with? Any suggestions? Also, and this is the bigger question... I am starting a Wednesday night program at our new church, and I would like to incorporate scripture memory into the program. The kids range in age from 4 to 13. There are about 16 kids and 3 adults. Many of the kids are bussed in, and are from troubled homes. (We have yet to maintain discipline.) Where should I start with them? Are there books similar to Awana that we could use? I am searching for answers and hope you can help. Thanks in advance. ~~Melissa =============================================================================== Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 11:38 PM Subject: Still time to join the Memory Subgroup for Upper Room Discourse From: lorry schoenly The Upper Room Discourse Memory Subgroup is just getting started. You still have time to join us as we move through this important part of scripture over the next year. Receive every-2-week reminder emails to keep you on track. Discuss your meditations on the passages with others. Good accountability group. There are 11 members in our group so far. Find out more about the group at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/upper_room_discourse_memory Subscribe at: upper_room_discourse_memory-subscribeyahoogroups.com Lorry Schoenly Upper Room DIscourse Memory List Administrator Lorry Schoenly Spiritual Disciplines Webpage: http://spiritualdisciplines.net Spiritual Disciplines Email List: http://www.egroups.com/group/spiritualdisciplines James Memory Webpage: http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/IvyHall/lorryschoenly James Memory Email List: http://www.egroups.com/group/jamesmemory --------------------------------------------------- Get your free web based email from Crosswalk.com: http://mail.crosswalk.com =============================================================================== Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 11:38 PM Subject: Re: To Clyde Price and all group members From: jerry shilts Hello; And 'Praise The Lord, I am a nobody in the work of God. I am, though, very serious, sincere, dedicated, and expecting to be called up, soon. The writer said, " These are the beginning of troubles". Let me state my purpose for this message. I am so thrilled to follow the e-mail, and read the messages of you people who love the word of God so much,and are committed to memorization of that word. May God bless you all so richly. And let me say, It is so wonderful to know him always, but especially, ' in times like these' The Word says, " be not only hearers of the Word, But Doers. Fight on! G.L. Shilts, /Louisiana On Thu, 09 Aug 2001 19:15:00 -0500 X-Apparently- writes: > Rev. Kephart, > > Thanks for the welcome. > > After lots of soul-searching and vascillation, I've decided to stay > with NASB and try to "upgrade" my memory work to the 95 Update, but > even getting this material up to a "recite WITH the initials" level > will take more than 15 minutes a week with a coach. (Being single and > living alone more than 20 miles away from my church makes me feel > pretty isolated.) > > I'm awfully glad to have found a fellowship of other Christians who > WANT to memorize the Word of God. Somehow, even among Bible believers, > this doesn't seem to be a common desire. Obviously, I'm praying and > working to encourage others --especially in churches and > small groups-- to memorize the Word in a way that will fit into > most > people's lifestyles. But my own "performance" has been so erratic > that sometimes I feel that I'm bordering on the hypocritical... > > Thanks for the warm welcome and the encouragement. I need at least as > much encouragement from Christians and God's powerful grace as anybody > else. God bless you all richly! > > --Clyde > > Mrkephartaol.com wrote: > > > > Dear Clyde, > > I can tell by your website and your memo to the group that you > have a > > lot to offer in the way of scripture memory > > > > Rev James L. Kephart > > -- > * > Clyde C. Price, Jr. Personal email: Founder > & President, Christian Digital Library Foundation > Free & freely distributable digital Christian & > educational etexts. Volunteers needed! ___July 2001, over 3 Megs of > new files! Come & see!__ > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > =============================================================================== Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Intro and question From: Clyde PRICE Melissa, You asked: Melissa L Eefsting wrote: > What "large" passage should I start with? Any suggestions? A "historic" answer would be the Ten Commandments and the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5-7), then perhaps Psalms 1,8,16,19,22-24, 27,37,67, 100, 139,150, and others of your choice.. Beyond that, the Epistles to the Philippians and Colossians, John 13-17, other longer discourses of Christ in the Gospels, maybe other shorter epistles. Our CDLF website (see sig) has experienced some delays and a worm (or trojan, or something) on the server which messed us up. But I spoke with the webmaster last night, and the 1-Year "schedules" I had told the group about earlier _should_ be on the site now. The files in YRMEMORZ (i.e., "year memorize") coordinate as much as possible the verse reference with the date, and fit the rest into other dates. The files include Romans, 1Corinthians, 2Corinthians+, Hebrews + James, spaced out over a year, mostly a verse a day. Another which should be on the site is a year with references cited by R.A.Torrey (first President of Moody Bible Institute) in his classic work _How To Work For Christ_. I'm still working out some booboos I discovered when proofreading a similar course comprising most of the Scripture memory assignments in _A Summary of Christian Doctrine_ by Louis Berkhof, the etext of which is also available on the CDLF website: I hope to have the "memory course" up on the site before long. (Berkhof was conservative Presbyterian/ Reformed and his writing follows that slant; but even for Christians of other "flavors", the references he cites are WELL WORTH STUDYING carefully.) This is probably a GREAT time to talk with your pastor about encouraging the entire church to read through the Bible together next year (two FREE schedules are available for that on our site) and/or to walk through the "Romans in a year" schedule as a congregation. Of course, nobody will be standing over them with a shotgun to FORCE them to memorize the entire epistle, but it would take very little effort to print the references for today-plus-seven or today-plus-fourteen days, with the encourgement that everybody be THINKING and TALKING ABOUT about "the verse for the day" together. Would it change your congregation if a significant number of folks had actually MEMORIZED the letter to the Romans? Of course, there are a several other Bible memory courses and materials on the commercial market, and several available via cyberspace either freely or shareware, including some mentioned recently on this mailinglist. I mentioned "mine" because they're FREE and I know where they are. Whatever you decide, I pray that God will bless you richly by His Word and His Spirit. And I encourage you to talk it over with your pastor, who might recognize that _your_ need is also a need for the entire congregation. Your appeal for his counsel MIGHT result in pulling much of your congregation with you through the BLESSED experience of memorizing and meditating on the Word TOGETHER. Concerning your work with difficult kids: GOD BLESS YOU for serving in this difficult ministry! I have used Child Evangelism Fellowship materials for their _cute_ visually-illustrated songs (many of them Scripture-songs), and illustrated flannelgraph stories/lessons (though it never occurred to me to _read_ the "first-person" lessons to the kids VERBATIM as I've seen some workers do). Last time I checked, they had their Bible-memory visuals for KJV and NKJV. Lots of denominational curriculum publishers have materials for NIV, but I think CEF has superior concepts and artwork for what they're producing, and I don't know what denomination/movement you're affiliated with (or which Bible version you prefer). I've also participated as a leader/teacher with the Pioneer Clubs program, which I thought was very well done. There are lots of crafts and activities (for which I relied entirely on my co-teacher, a sharp lady and mom of one of the kids). Most of my experiences with these programs were between 10 and 25 years ago, and they've probably changed in the meantime... May God bless you richly, demonstrate His power through you, extend your influence, and keep you from evil! (1Chron 4:9-10.) --Clyde > Also, and this is the bigger question... I am starting a Wednesday > night program at our new church, and I would like to incorporate > scripture memory into the program. The kids range in age from 4 to > 13. There are about 16 kids and 3 adults. Many of the kids are > bussed in, and are from troubled homes. (We have yet to maintain > discipline.) Where should I start with them? Are there books similar > to Awana that we could use? > > I am searching for answers and hope you can help. Thanks in advance. > > ~~Melissa -- Clyde C. PRICE, Jr. or , Founder & President, the Christian Digital Library Foundation 11770 Haynes Bridge Rd. Ste. 205-214, Alpharetta, GA 30004 USA CDLF is looking for Scribes, Eager Readers, and other friends to enjoy, distribute, and produce digital Christian books and other resources to build up the Body of Christ. =============================================================================== Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:04 AM Subject: Re: Intro and question From: surgeon AWANA has a new program ( a few years old) that is specifically designed for inner city kids. I can't remember the name of it, but if you contacted AWANA headquarters or your local missionary they could probably steer you the right way. They also have a program for kids with learning disabilities. This past spring AWANA challenged all its leaders to memorize Ephesians 2. A powerful scripture. Valerie Surgeon ---------- > I'm Melissa and have been married to my husband for 9 years. We have > two > kids-- our son is four and our daughter is one. I stay home with them, > and we are homeschooling. So, I keep busy. I have a desire to memorize > more scripture. I was involved in Awana as a kid, and I taught it a > couple years ago and memorized the verses with my girls. But our new > church does not have Awana, and I need to get back in the memorizing > habit. > > What "large" passage should I start with? Any suggestions? > > Also, and this is the bigger question... I am starting a Wednesday > night program at our new church, and I would like to incorporate > scripture memory into the program. The kids range in age from 4 to > 13. There are about 16 kids and 3 adults. Many of the kids are > bussed in, and are from troubled homes. (We have yet to maintain > discipline.) Where should I start with them? Are there books similar > to Awana that we could use? > > I am searching for answers and hope you can help. Thanks in advance. > > ~~Melissa > > > > > =============================================================================== Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:04 AM Subject: Re: Intro and question From: noah munnerlyn hello melissa, I wish you the best in your memory plan. Here are some quick suggestions for your personal project. Phil 4:4 - 4:13 - not too long. Eph. 5 - medium length I John 1- medium Matthew 5,6,7 - big project. John 14, 15 For your children's project, check out the program that MemLok has. There are illustrations that correspond with each verse which could be helpful and fun for kids to figure out. It is separated by topics. i believe you can contact them at 420 E. Montwood Ave. La Habra CA 90613 714-738-0949 Ive had their program for a while, so that info may not be current. let me know how it goes. and what you decide on. Noah Munnerlyn nmunnerlynworldnet.att.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Melissa L Eefsting To: Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:38 PM Subject: Intro and question > I'm Melissa and have been married to my husband for 9 years. We have > two > kids-- our son is four and our daughter is one. I stay home with them, > and we are homeschooling. So, I keep busy. I have a desire to memorize > more scripture. I was involved in Awana as a kid, and I taught it a > couple years ago and memorized the verses with my girls. But our new > church does not have Awana, and I need to get back in the memorizing > habit. > > What "large" passage should I start with? Any suggestions? > > Also, and this is the bigger question... I am starting a Wednesday > night program at our new church, and I would like to incorporate > scripture memory into the program. The kids range in age from 4 to > 13. There are about 16 kids and 3 adults. Many of the kids are > bussed in, and are from troubled homes. (We have yet to maintain > discipline.) Where should I start with them? Are there books similar > to Awana that we could use? > > I am searching for answers and hope you can help. Thanks in advance. > > ~~Melissa > > > > =============================================================================== Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:04 AM Subject: Re: Melissa From: dmoore12 Here are three possibilities: a.. http://www.approvedkids.org/ Memory Books with quantity pricing. b.. http://www.desiringgod.org/CPResources/FighterVerses.html Fighter Verses;cards, tapes, prizes designed to be used in churches or individually. c.. http://www.sosministries.org/ workbooks and cards for kids thru adults. Book full of suggestions to help memory groups of all ages. Hope these help Cindy in Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: Melissa L Eefsting To: biblememmemoryverses.org=20 Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 10:38 PM Subject: Intro and question Are there books similar to Awana that we could use? =============================================================================== Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:04 AM Subject: To Melissa L Eefsting From: James Kephart You might start a Three Thirty Club in your church. It would be fun. Go to http://www.threethirtyclub.com and see what you think. It is a fun, easy way for churches to memorize scripture. Rev James L. Kephart ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa L Eefsting" To: Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:38 PM Subject: Intro and question > I'm Melissa and have been married to my husband for 9 years. We have > two > kids-- our son is four and our daughter is one. I stay home with them, > and we are homeschooling. So, I keep busy. I have a desire to memorize > more scripture. I was involved in Awana as a kid, and I taught it a > couple years ago and memorized the verses with my girls. But our new > church does not have Awana, and I need to get back in the memorizing > habit. > > What "large" passage should I start with? Any suggestions? > > Also, and this is the bigger question... I am starting a Wednesday > night program at our new church, and I would like to incorporate > scripture memory into the program. The kids range in age from 4 to > 13. There are about 16 kids and 3 adults. Many of the kids are > bussed in, and are from troubled homes. (We have yet to maintain > discipline.) Where should I start with them? Are there books similar > to Awana that we could use? > > I am searching for answers and hope you can help. Thanks in advance. > > ~~Melissa > > > > > ===============================================================================